They sell a database interface program geared for people in call centers. Esentially it's a big web page that call center employees go log into to make most of their orders and to check on customer information.
Just from working with Seibel's front end every day, this doesn't surprise me. The thing will just randomly pop up nonsensical error messages, and the only option is to log out and log back in.
Storeage? Ummm. We've got lots and lots of unused desert. build some nice big buildings out in the middle of an unpopulated area of desert and put it there.
Yet another person who seems to be unable to separate the concepts of "patriotism" or "looking after one's own" from warmongering.... Why is an American more deserving of a job than a chinaman? Because he lives in America. Because he contributes to our society. Because he hasn't been taught from birth to hate us (unless he lives in California). Because, to us in the US, the American has paid his dues, however that's measured: common experience, common cultural and value systems, whatever. And most of all, because he's not aiming nuclear weapons at us.
They won't force Microsoft to accept an open standard, but I'd be willing to bet that a well-argued case would require the government to offer all forms in an open format. This court is more libertarian than most people give it credit for, the "emminent-domain" decision notwithstanding.
You know, this only applies in the area covered by the Ninth circuit (the Left Coast, essentially). The Circuit courts in other parts of the country are free to take different interpretations. There's also the sidebar that the Ninth Circuit is the most-overturned court in the country.
This bill is a great idea. I'm writing my congrescritters right now asking them to support this, and to try to enact a similar bill for computer hardware. I encourage others to at least write their own critters about this one.
And Linux doesn't have the alt-hip-cool factor that makes people go out and buy Apple.
It doesn't? With the "computer geek" becoming the new "hunk," as one girl recently put it to me? Here's the real reasons your favorite OS and mine isn't seeing wider use:
A) we have no team of salesdroids pushing our product. We can tell people all we want about it, but we aren't salesdroids with a "message" about the OS to push like MacOS has, or to get our OS bundled on PC clones.
B) We just don't have the games. We just don't. And we probably won't until we can talk/guilt/bribe the major video and audio card manufacturers into sending along linux drivers for their hardware. Which we won't get until we have gamers clamoring for them, which we won't have until we have games, which we won't get unless we have salesdroids.
C)The driver issue discussed above.
This leads me to the conclusion that we need salesdroids, which we won't get, because we aren't a company. Therefore, we need to use another company's salesdroids. Our best bet would be to convince some computer company currently getting slammed in sales by Dell to start bundling their low-end PCs with a nice, easy, user-freindly distro of Linux, one which will start out the install with a main account named user and a password of password, and naggy little scripts telling people to change their passwords.
I'm actually about to take this suggestion to the computer company I work for.
I'll go with this guy... a certification is deffinitely a good way to go for a young person who hasn't been around the IT arena for all that long, but really knows his stuff trying to get interviews. People expect IT guys to be older bearded guys who've been working with computers since punch cards were considered high-tech, if not since the capacitor drum. When a young guy comes along, people figure he might do a little HTML or play some games, but certainly doesn't know how to do anything, at least until he shows some evidence of knowing his stuff. To boil it down, a certification is now what a year or so on the helpdesk used to be.
That's the problem with too many Americans (and yes, I am one myself, keep that in mind when you flame me): they think that waving their dicks around and threatening/bullying the rest of the world will make us safer, when in fact it does the opposite.
As opposed to the French option of bending over, grabbing your ankles, and saying "Oui, mein Herr." to the first person who steamrolls your country. Because, you know, people don't recognize patterns of behavior or anything.... Once you cave in to people, they tend to keep demanding things of you.
The people of Vietnam did not want US domination and neo-colonialization, and the US lost that war.
We lost Vietnam for 2 reasons:
We placed political contraints on warriors. They were not allowed to cut off supply routes through supposedly-neutral Laos and Cambodia.
Our military leadership started out fighting the wrong kind of war. They assumed that it was a conventional war in which winning the territory was more important than counterinsurgency tactics. This is a lesson our military has learnt extremely well.
And don't think I'm merely referring you to someone who is wholly on my side of this issue. COL Hackworth's articles on military.com were highly critical of the way this particular war is being fought.
For a primer on what the Vietnam war was like, I would like to refer you to two books by the late COL David H. Hackworth: About Face and Steel, My Soldiers' Hearts.The people of Iraq do not want US domination and neo-colonialization of their country, and the US is losing that war.
I'd like to know what makes you think that we're losing the war in Iraq. Deaths? 1800 or so. Compared to the 2500 deaths from the D-day invasion alone, this is hardly a costly war as lives go. Equipment? Equipment is cheap and keeps Americans working.
I'm not going to argue with you on our intentions in the war, since you've obviously drunk the Kool-Aid there, but I'm really interested in hearing why you think that we're loxing.
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but I couldn't help having a flashback to watching "Full Metal Jacket" while reading this...
WTF? Why is this modded redundant? I mean, obviously everybody should be asking these questions anyway, but still... It should at least get a funny.
They sell a database interface program geared for people in call centers. Esentially it's a big web page that call center employees go log into to make most of their orders and to check on customer information.
Just from working with Seibel's front end every day, this doesn't surprise me. The thing will just randomly pop up nonsensical error messages, and the only option is to log out and log back in.
Besides what the other reply said, since when has Linux had a stock price?
Thank you, Sir, Madam, or Other. You have officially made my day. If I had mod points, you'd get all of them.
Ummmm. Hate to be trollish, but could you explain to me why, if we've been bombing the third world for oil, gas is so fucking expanesive?
Storeage? Ummm. We've got lots and lots of unused desert. build some nice big buildings out in the middle of an unpopulated area of desert and put it there.
Ten Percent. If you're going to mock us, at least do it accurately.
Yet another person who seems to be unable to separate the concepts of "patriotism" or "looking after one's own" from warmongering.... Why is an American more deserving of a job than a chinaman? Because he lives in America. Because he contributes to our society. Because he hasn't been taught from birth to hate us (unless he lives in California). Because, to us in the US, the American has paid his dues, however that's measured: common experience, common cultural and value systems, whatever. And most of all, because he's not aiming nuclear weapons at us.
They won't force Microsoft to accept an open standard, but I'd be willing to bet that a well-argued case would require the government to offer all forms in an open format. This court is more libertarian than most people give it credit for, the "emminent-domain" decision notwithstanding.
You know, this only applies in the area covered by the Ninth circuit (the Left Coast, essentially). The Circuit courts in other parts of the country are free to take different interpretations. There's also the sidebar that the Ninth Circuit is the most-overturned court in the country.
This bill is a great idea. I'm writing my congrescritters right now asking them to support this, and to try to enact a similar bill for computer hardware. I encourage others to at least write their own critters about this one.
And Linux doesn't have the alt-hip-cool factor that makes people go out and buy Apple.
It doesn't? With the "computer geek" becoming the new "hunk," as one girl recently put it to me? Here's the real reasons your favorite OS and mine isn't seeing wider use:
A) we have no team of salesdroids pushing our product. We can tell people all we want about it, but we aren't salesdroids with a "message" about the OS to push like MacOS has, or to get our OS bundled on PC clones.
B) We just don't have the games. We just don't. And we probably won't until we can talk/guilt/bribe the major video and audio card manufacturers into sending along linux drivers for their hardware. Which we won't get until we have gamers clamoring for them, which we won't have until we have games, which we won't get unless we have salesdroids.
C)The driver issue discussed above.
This leads me to the conclusion that we need salesdroids, which we won't get, because we aren't a company. Therefore, we need to use another company's salesdroids. Our best bet would be to convince some computer company currently getting slammed in sales by Dell to start bundling their low-end PCs with a nice, easy, user-freindly distro of Linux, one which will start out the install with a main account named user and a password of password, and naggy little scripts telling people to change their passwords.
I'm actually about to take this suggestion to the computer company I work for.
I'll go with this guy... a certification is deffinitely a good way to go for a young person who hasn't been around the IT arena for all that long, but really knows his stuff trying to get interviews. People expect IT guys to be older bearded guys who've been working with computers since punch cards were considered high-tech, if not since the capacitor drum. When a young guy comes along, people figure he might do a little HTML or play some games, but certainly doesn't know how to do anything, at least until he shows some evidence of knowing his stuff. To boil it down, a certification is now what a year or so on the helpdesk used to be.
More than enough to make Florida disappear entirely
Quick! Get your blowtorches and flamethrowers and head south!
Do not mock the Ackbar!
That's the problem with too many Americans (and yes, I am one myself, keep that in mind when you flame me): they think that waving their dicks around and threatening/bullying the rest of the world will make us safer, when in fact it does the opposite.
As opposed to the French option of bending over, grabbing your ankles, and saying "Oui, mein Herr." to the first person who steamrolls your country. Because, you know, people don't recognize patterns of behavior or anything.... Once you cave in to people, they tend to keep demanding things of you.
The people of Vietnam did not want US domination and neo-colonialization, and the US lost that war. We lost Vietnam for 2 reasons: We placed political contraints on warriors. They were not allowed to cut off supply routes through supposedly-neutral Laos and Cambodia. Our military leadership started out fighting the wrong kind of war. They assumed that it was a conventional war in which winning the territory was more important than counterinsurgency tactics. This is a lesson our military has learnt extremely well. And don't think I'm merely referring you to someone who is wholly on my side of this issue. COL Hackworth's articles on military.com were highly critical of the way this particular war is being fought. For a primer on what the Vietnam war was like, I would like to refer you to two books by the late COL David H. Hackworth: About Face and Steel, My Soldiers' Hearts. The people of Iraq do not want US domination and neo-colonialization of their country, and the US is losing that war. I'd like to know what makes you think that we're losing the war in Iraq. Deaths? 1800 or so. Compared to the 2500 deaths from the D-day invasion alone, this is hardly a costly war as lives go. Equipment? Equipment is cheap and keeps Americans working. I'm not going to argue with you on our intentions in the war, since you've obviously drunk the Kool-Aid there, but I'm really interested in hearing why you think that we're loxing.
Sounds quite a lot like the Church of Scientology and the Mormons....