I think that's because AMD has proven themselves to be reliable and superior technology (as well as the underdog), while Intel has 1) failed to meet demand 2) hyped a product and then did not release it (rambus) and 3) resorted to bullying tactics when they were one-upped. I think 3 is especially important, since such a manuever would give them loads of negative karma with a community as sensitive to abusive monopolies as the Linux crowd.
Just look at bus speed : 400 Mhz against the "meager" 200 Mhz of the Athlon...
Yeah, but that's only if your RAM is 400 as well. AFAIK there isn't even PC200 ram available yet; or if it is it's obscenely expensive. I'm pretty sure most people will be running it with PC133 or PC200 ram, in which case the Athlon will hold its own just fine. And just because they've announced doesn't mean anything. I don't care what Intel hypes as the best chip until I can hold it in my hand; before that, it's nothing but hype.
What crashed? Netscape pukes all over itself on my machine on a regular basis, but that's Netscape's problem, not Linux. Tell me: what crashed, exactly? Did it take down the OS? If it was an application, then I am sure it did not; and that is the major difference I've seen between Linux and NT. I've had buggy programs crash on me all the time in Linux, but the OS itself (the kernel) has not once died on me.
Actually, the US does have holdings in France. The US WWII cemetery (the one seen at the beginning and end of Saving Private Ryan) was given to the US by France.
That would involve the trolls being completely removed from this forum, and I don't think that is very likely. It's not really Americans who are doing this per se, but all the stupid ACs who were previously entertaining themselves by posting porn in the form of ASCII art. What would you expect?
It's really gives us a Amercians a bad reputation here, and I hate it just as much as you.
How the hell is Sledgehammer going to run 32-bit code "Better, in fact, than a native 32-bit CPU"?
Dual cores, from what I can tell. It is supposed to be able to access 32-bit instructions just as well as 64-bit, since it is a direct extension and not a rewrite.
And how is AMD going to afford to keep up with Intel's Pentium III line with a huge chunk of extra 64-bit silicon?
You've got it backwards: how will Intel keep up with AMD's K7 line? Athlons are technically superior to the PIII by quite a bit, and Intel is far behind at this point thanks to Rambus. They are playing catch up. If the K8 is the first 64-bit x86 chip to hit the market, obviously it will have quite a head start on the Merced. And you make it sound like the extra entensions will slow it down... being 64-bit, that means it will kick the PIII's ass so badly that they will be totally unable to compete until Merced comes out.
And who is going to pay significantly extra money for a bunch of 64-bit functionality that's useless unless you are running Linux?
Who's gonna shell out the extra bucks for a Merced chip, when it will only run Linux? At least, for a while it will. Windows 2000 isn't even out for the 32-bit market yet, I'm sure it will take a significant amount of time to port to Merced. I wouldn't hold my breath. And even if it does, it'll be a tight fit. Linux is already a 64-bit operating system, it's just stepped down to work on 32-bit hardware. Getting it to run on Merced would be a piece of cake.
Did you even READ my post? According to what little AMD will say about it, it will run 32-bit code just fine. Better, in fact, than a native 32-bit CPU. So you could install Windows on it, it just wouldn't tak advantage of the 64-bit extensions as Linux could. As far as vaporware, I think AMD is a hell of a lot more trustworthy than Intel at this point--don't forget the rambus incedent. They are scrambling to catch up and are quite a bit behind at this point.
Conversely, it looks like Intel will have to depend on Linux to support its Merced line (assuming it even gets to the shelves), since Microsoft has dropped any pretense of supporting 64-bit architechtures at this point. I believe they were working on getting Win2K to work on Merced but they simply couldn't do it.
Deschutes? Is that a river? I remember thinking that was an awefully silly name. Actually, I like it better than Celeron... too tempting to call 'em Celery;)
The article said all you need to do is a recompile. The Sledghammer is a direct extension of the 32-bit instructions, so it will not only run legacy 32-bit code, it will kick any native 32-bit processor's ass doing it. All that would be needed to be done is recompile Linux on the Sledgehammer and there you go. The merced chip is a far more convoluted and complex process, which is why the Trillian project was necessary, but thankfully AMD will be simpler.
The point is, though, that domination of Linux means domination on no one. As with M$, there is a single company that supplies the OS and controls the users. Total domination by them would mean their way or the highway. But with Linux, anyone can take it and change it to suit their needs. Therefore, domination of Linux would actually be quite good for competition, only it would be between distributors and not operating systems.
You trolls can go screw yourselves, I think this is awesome. I really don't like being compared to gays... but I suppose it does make sense. I am deffinately getting a copy of this.
Don't dismiss it until you've seen it; a spin-off with a supporting cast member can be very successful if done right. For instance, Fraser is a spin-off of Cheers, and is very successful and, IMHO, far better than the original. Fraser Crane as he appeared in Cheers would not have made a very good character in his own show, but they did major work on his character and did a really good job.
Wow. I agree completely! Langley (yes, he is the blond guy) strikes me very strongly as a Linux guy. And others seem completely in character as well. The point is, anything but Windows. Not for any zealous "Microsoft is evil!!!" reasons, rather because no serious cracker would every use a Wintel box because some form of *nix perfectly suited for that kinda stuff. Sadly, I doubt the writers would be competent enough to get that detailed, we'd actually be lucky to even see a recognizeable OS (and if it was, I'd bet is would be either Windows or Mac).
Yeah, I love that episode! It's one of the rare shows focusing on the Lone Gunmen, and I really wish there were more. They are great characters.
It was also a great opportunity for Scully to loosen up and become the punchline for once; and the Morris Fletcher cameo was a nice touch. Anderson's probably getting tired of the role because Scully's such a tightass.
I didn't say it was good. I think calling the depictions of "hacking" horribly bad qualifies as not calling it good. But I think the basic idea behind it was interesting, and maybe in someone else's hands (specifically, someone who knows something about computers) it could actually be cool.
I'd watch them in their own series. They are, after all, the best characters. The suit, the hippie, the creepy old guy. Ah, Byers, Langley, and Frohike: hang in there. We're pulling for you.
I agree. In fact, I think that the trio were the most underexplored characters on the show, considering the potential they would have. They are without a doubt the most colorful characters on the show, and, IMHO, the most entertaining. I'm a little put off that they aren't seen more than they are, but the prospect of a show about them would be totally awesome, if done right.
However, I think the writers would deffinately need to beef up in a couple of categories:
deffinately need to get better acquianted with technical jargon
Seeing as they have done such feats of cracking such as breaking into the FBI dbase (I know, sounds cliche... but it was important for the story) they really should be seen using some form of *nix. I mean, come on--no serious cracker would operate on a Wintel box. They strike me as Linux guys, but anything other than Windows will do.
Veer away from paranormal/extraterrestrial storylines, and more into the techical/conspiracy genre. Duh. Kill Switch comes to mind as a good example, excepting, of course, the horribly bad portrayals of "hacking."
An interesting note: Anderson's contract says she is obligated to stay on for one more season. Would this qualify? I seriously doubt Duchovny could be coaxed into another year, and the show would suck horribly without him.
Perhaps because the GIMP was responsible for introducing GTK, which is unquestionably very widely used and important. Nothing against Qt, but in the spirit of Open Source, it would be best to be using a completely and totally open widget set.
True enough. And I'm the first to admit that Linux does have some pretty crappy video support right now. But there's certainly enough demand to make it worth their while, don't you think? Linux desperately needs to be able to participate in streaming media, and, well, M$ can say they're gonna port Windows Media Player all they want; I won't believe it 'till I can actually download the program. And even then, I probably wouldn't use it anyway on principal (giving them a monopoly over streaming media players means giving them a monopoly on servers... NOT good). Either Real needs to get with it, or someone needs to reverse engineer it--the latter would actually be better, since they wouldn't be able to get by with the crappy quality alphas they offer now, and we'd regain control. But considering the Streambox trial, they'd probably prosecute. *sigh*
What we really need is our own open standard, maybe some form of MPEG.
Oh, god--I can't believe you actually asked;) My guess: Crusoe!
I mean, Be already runs on x86, they wouldn't need to port anything! And all of the programs people own for BeOS will automatically run on BeIA--a major plus for Be fans. Considering Be's easy interface, I think Internet appliances would be a great market for them, 'cause I doubt it will ever catch hold on the desktop market.
I simply don't understand arguments that cite prior examples of M$ back-stabbing other companies when referring to Linux. It's a simple fact that M$'s unethical business practices have no measureable effect on Linux, because it isn't out to make money. Preventing other companies from making money is how M$ smothered the likes of Netscape, Novell and Borland in favour of their own products, yet these tactics are useless against a free operating system. They can spread as much FUD as they please, it obviously isn't working! In order to beat Linux, they will have to compete with quality, and the very thought of that brings an evil grin to my face:)
neither of which is illegal! I have the right to make copies of copyrighted works that I own, and I have the right to convert it to other formats if I wish (mp3). Only if I distribute would it be illegal.
Actually, I think the quote was rather relevant. He wasn't comparing the Holocaust and click-wrap licenses per se, he was comparing the overall attitude of not caring about something terrible because it doesn't immidiately involve you.
Since when has logic had anything to do with it? Of course it's legal to copy DVDs under fair use laws, but that doesn't stop the MPAA from not only claiming copying of any kind is illegal, but printing "NO COPYING" on the top of every DVD pressed. They're idiots. If they were thinking logically about this, these lawsuits would never have been filed.
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I think that's because AMD has proven themselves to be reliable and superior technology (as well as the underdog), while Intel has 1) failed to meet demand 2) hyped a product and then did not release it (rambus) and 3) resorted to bullying tactics when they were one-upped. I think 3 is especially important, since such a manuever would give them loads of negative karma with a community as sensitive to abusive monopolies as the Linux crowd.
Yeah, but that's only if your RAM is 400 as well. AFAIK there isn't even PC200 ram available yet; or if it is it's obscenely expensive. I'm pretty sure most people will be running it with PC133 or PC200 ram, in which case the Athlon will hold its own just fine. And just because they've announced doesn't mean anything. I don't care what Intel hypes as the best chip until I can hold it in my hand; before that, it's nothing but hype.
Maybe not then, but can you picture anyone nowadays behaving like that? I think our politicians do take themselves a bit too seriously.
What crashed? Netscape pukes all over itself on my machine on a regular basis, but that's Netscape's problem, not Linux. Tell me: what crashed, exactly? Did it take down the OS? If it was an application, then I am sure it did not; and that is the major difference I've seen between Linux and NT. I've had buggy programs crash on me all the time in Linux, but the OS itself (the kernel) has not once died on me.
Don't forget the Statue of Liberty.
It's really gives us a Amercians a bad reputation here, and I hate it just as much as you.
Dual cores, from what I can tell. It is supposed to be able to access 32-bit instructions just as well as 64-bit, since it is a direct extension and not a rewrite.
And how is AMD going to afford to keep up with Intel's Pentium III line with a huge chunk of extra 64-bit silicon?
You've got it backwards: how will Intel keep up with AMD's K7 line? Athlons are technically superior to the PIII by quite a bit, and Intel is far behind at this point thanks to Rambus. They are playing catch up. If the K8 is the first 64-bit x86 chip to hit the market, obviously it will have quite a head start on the Merced. And you make it sound like the extra entensions will slow it down... being 64-bit, that means it will kick the PIII's ass so badly that they will be totally unable to compete until Merced comes out.
And who is going to pay significantly extra money for a bunch of 64-bit functionality that's useless unless you are running Linux?
Who's gonna shell out the extra bucks for a Merced chip, when it will only run Linux? At least, for a while it will. Windows 2000 isn't even out for the 32-bit market yet, I'm sure it will take a significant amount of time to port to Merced. I wouldn't hold my breath. And even if it does, it'll be a tight fit. Linux is already a 64-bit operating system, it's just stepped down to work on 32-bit hardware. Getting it to run on Merced would be a piece of cake.
Conversely, it looks like Intel will have to depend on Linux to support its Merced line (assuming it even gets to the shelves), since Microsoft has dropped any pretense of supporting 64-bit architechtures at this point. I believe they were working on getting Win2K to work on Merced but they simply couldn't do it.
Deschutes? Is that a river? I remember thinking that was an awefully silly name. Actually, I like it better than Celeron... too tempting to call 'em Celery ;)
The article said all you need to do is a recompile. The Sledghammer is a direct extension of the 32-bit instructions, so it will not only run legacy 32-bit code, it will kick any native 32-bit processor's ass doing it. All that would be needed to be done is recompile Linux on the Sledgehammer and there you go. The merced chip is a far more convoluted and complex process, which is why the Trillian project was necessary, but thankfully AMD will be simpler.
The point is, though, that domination of Linux means domination on no one. As with M$, there is a single company that supplies the OS and controls the users. Total domination by them would mean their way or the highway. But with Linux, anyone can take it and change it to suit their needs. Therefore, domination of Linux would actually be quite good for competition, only it would be between distributors and not operating systems.
You trolls can go screw yourselves, I think this is awesome. I really don't like being compared to gays... but I suppose it does make sense. I am deffinately getting a copy of this.
Don't dismiss it until you've seen it; a spin-off with a supporting cast member can be very successful if done right. For instance, Fraser is a spin-off of Cheers, and is very successful and, IMHO, far better than the original. Fraser Crane as he appeared in Cheers would not have made a very good character in his own show, but they did major work on his character and did a really good job.
Wow. I agree completely! Langley (yes, he is the blond guy) strikes me very strongly as a Linux guy. And others seem completely in character as well. The point is, anything but Windows. Not for any zealous "Microsoft is evil!!!" reasons, rather because no serious cracker would every use a Wintel box because some form of *nix perfectly suited for that kinda stuff. Sadly, I doubt the writers would be competent enough to get that detailed, we'd actually be lucky to even see a recognizeable OS (and if it was, I'd bet is would be either Windows or Mac).
It was also a great opportunity for Scully to loosen up and become the punchline for once; and the Morris Fletcher cameo was a nice touch. Anderson's probably getting tired of the role because Scully's such a tightass.
I didn't say it was good. I think calling the depictions of "hacking" horribly bad qualifies as not calling it good. But I think the basic idea behind it was interesting, and maybe in someone else's hands (specifically, someone who knows something about computers) it could actually be cool.
I agree. In fact, I think that the trio were the most underexplored characters on the show, considering the potential they would have. They are without a doubt the most colorful characters on the show, and, IMHO, the most entertaining. I'm a little put off that they aren't seen more than they are, but the prospect of a show about them would be totally awesome, if done right.
However, I think the writers would deffinately need to beef up in a couple of categories:
An interesting note: Anderson's contract says she is obligated to stay on for one more season. Would this qualify? I seriously doubt Duchovny could be coaxed into another year, and the show would suck horribly without him.
Perhaps because the GIMP was responsible for introducing GTK, which is unquestionably very widely used and important. Nothing against Qt, but in the spirit of Open Source, it would be best to be using a completely and totally open widget set.
True enough. And I'm the first to admit that Linux does have some pretty crappy video support right now. But there's certainly enough demand to make it worth their while, don't you think? Linux desperately needs to be able to participate in streaming media, and, well, M$ can say they're gonna port Windows Media Player all they want; I won't believe it 'till I can actually download the program. And even then, I probably wouldn't use it anyway on principal (giving them a monopoly over streaming media players means giving them a monopoly on servers... NOT good). Either Real needs to get with it, or someone needs to reverse engineer it--the latter would actually be better, since they wouldn't be able to get by with the crappy quality alphas they offer now, and we'd regain control. But considering the Streambox trial, they'd probably prosecute. *sigh*
What we really need is our own open standard, maybe some form of MPEG.
My guess: Crusoe!
I mean, Be already runs on x86, they wouldn't need to port anything! And all of the programs people own for BeOS will automatically run on BeIA--a major plus for Be fans. Considering Be's easy interface, I think Internet appliances would be a great market for them, 'cause I doubt it will ever catch hold on the desktop market.
I simply don't understand arguments that cite prior examples of M$ back-stabbing other companies when referring to Linux. It's a simple fact that M$'s unethical business practices have no measureable effect on Linux, because it isn't out to make money. Preventing other companies from making money is how M$ smothered the likes of Netscape, Novell and Borland in favour of their own products, yet these tactics are useless against a free operating system. They can spread as much FUD as they please, it obviously isn't working! In order to beat Linux, they will have to compete with quality, and the very thought of that brings an evil grin to my face :)
Curious, then, that they did not mention MKLinux at all in the list of Linux distro's for PPC. Hmm...
neither of which is illegal! I have the right to make copies of copyrighted works that I own, and I have the right to convert it to other formats if I wish (mp3). Only if I distribute would it be illegal.
Actually, I think the quote was rather relevant. He wasn't comparing the Holocaust and click-wrap licenses per se, he was comparing the overall attitude of not caring about something terrible because it doesn't immidiately involve you.
Since when has logic had anything to do with it? Of course it's legal to copy DVDs under fair use laws, but that doesn't stop the MPAA from not only claiming copying of any kind is illegal, but printing "NO COPYING" on the top of every DVD pressed. They're idiots. If they were thinking logically about this, these lawsuits would never have been filed.