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X-Files Series Spinoff?

starvo writes "Seems like Chris Carter is weighing the possibilities of an X-Files series spinoff featuring The Lone Gunmen." Normally I'm not a huge fan of spinoffs, but there's enough going on with these guys that it could be a fun show. I doubt it will have the staying power of the original though... unless Gillian Anderson does regular cameos. Yum.

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  1. Lone Gunmen? by xenotrope · · Score: 1

    I'd watch them in their own series. They are, after all, the best characters. The suit, the hippie, the creepy old guy. Ah, Byers, Langley, and Frohike: hang in there. We're pulling for you.


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    1. Re:Lone Gunmen? by lunatik17 · · Score: 1
      I'd watch them in their own series. They are, after all, the best characters. The suit, the hippie, the creepy old guy. Ah, Byers, Langley, and Frohike: hang in there. We're pulling for you.

      I agree. In fact, I think that the trio were the most underexplored characters on the show, considering the potential they would have. They are without a doubt the most colorful characters on the show, and, IMHO, the most entertaining. I'm a little put off that they aren't seen more than they are, but the prospect of a show about them would be totally awesome, if done right.

      However, I think the writers would deffinately need to beef up in a couple of categories:

      • deffinately need to get better acquianted with technical jargon
      • Seeing as they have done such feats of cracking such as breaking into the FBI dbase (I know, sounds cliche... but it was important for the story) they really should be seen using some form of *nix. I mean, come on--no serious cracker would operate on a Wintel box. They strike me as Linux guys, but anything other than Windows will do.
      • Veer away from paranormal/extraterrestrial storylines, and more into the techical/conspiracy genre. Duh. Kill Switch comes to mind as a good example, excepting, of course, the horribly bad portrayals of "hacking."

      An interesting note: Anderson's contract says she is obligated to stay on for one more season. Would this qualify? I seriously doubt Duchovny could be coaxed into another year, and the show would suck horribly without him.

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    2. Re:Lone Gunmen? by harmonica · · Score: 2

      Germany's a bit behind in broadcasting the episodes (now near the end of the sixth season), so yesterday they aired an episode where Scully was working with the three guys in Las Vegas. That show /definitely/ was a lot of fun, even without Mulder. Maybe because Scully was on drugs...

      However, I'm not sure if the writers can really come up with enough new story lines. On Anderson's contract, I don't think they can make her work on another show if she doesn't want to.

    3. Re:Lone Gunmen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    4. Re:Lone Gunmen? by gonzocanuck · · Score: 1

      Me too. They are hilarious and remind me of my friends in high school :-) The one more recent episode where they were at a security convention was a bomb. Overall, I'm pretty disappointed with last year's shows and I knew it would happen - the writing would go in weird directions like Twin Peaks. Man, I loved that show, but it got too weird even for me at the end.

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    5. Re:Lone Gunmen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is it you nerds like about XFiles. It's a horrible and boring show. You just all think you have a chance with that FBI chick. Give it up!

    6. Re:Lone Gunmen? by lunatik17 · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I love that episode! It's one of the rare shows focusing on the Lone Gunmen, and I really wish there were more. They are great characters.

      It was also a great opportunity for Scully to loosen up and become the punchline for once; and the Morris Fletcher cameo was a nice touch. Anderson's probably getting tired of the role because Scully's such a tightass.

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    7. Re:Lone Gunmen? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Kill Switch comes to mind as a good example, excepting, of course, the horribly bad portrayals of "hacking."

      Yes, the portrayals of "hacking" were bad in Kill Switch.... BUT they are perfectly in character with William Gibson's vision of cyberpunk, as expounded from Neuromancer on...

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    8. Re:Lone Gunmen? by krizz · · Score: 1

      .. and did you notice the "DefCon99" neon sign near the end? :-)

  2. The Lone Gunmen by Microlith · · Score: 1

    "w1ll h4x0r j00!!"

    I bet they will.

    The episodes with them were always some of the best. Now, what would the focus be of their show? If they're going to hack, is it going to be realistic (heh yeah right), or is it going to be classic X-Files type stories? I doubt they'll be chasing freaks and ghosts, or aliens, but you never know...

    Maybe their Alien Episode involves one of their 'puters crunching an important signal block from Seti@Home?

    1. Re:The Lone Gunmen by Jim+Tyre · · Score: 1


      Maybe their Alien Episode involves one of their 'puters crunching an important signal block from Seti@Home?
      No, no, no, this is a spinoff, remember?
      It would have to be from YETI@Home.

    2. Re:The Lone Gunmen by bareman · · Score: 1

      I doubt that the lone gunmen's machines would be running Seti@Home... I mean...

      <whispering> You do know don't you? That software is really processing data for marketing research. It has nothing to do with Extra-Terrestrial broadcasts.

      <eyes looking to make sure we're alone> "Have you ever really looked at the data their sending you? Almost no-one does..."

      ;-)

  3. Drinking game? by MaximumBob · · Score: 1

    Sure, it sounds like a good idea, but how would a Lone Gunmen drinking game work? Take one drink every time someone admits someone else's kung fu is the best? I don't know...

    1. Re:Drinking game? by xenotrope · · Score: 1

      I could totally see getting into this. Imagine: T-shirts that say "My kung fu's the best" and "I don't take checks drawn from the Bank of Middle Earth". There's a huge geek potential for this show. Perhaps every week could end with a URL for a new downloadable StarCraft map or something. Producers could make this the Star Trek of our generation if they had the ideas to do it.

      Maybe not. Maybe I just want a "My kung fu's the best" shirt.


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  4. Possibilites with this One by Maul · · Score: 1
    These four characters are pretty cool. There are many possibilities with a spin off series, and it doesn't have to be alien chasing all the time, either. I'd rather not see "The X-Files Part II" but something with a bit more originality.

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    1. Re:Possibilites with this One by Insanik · · Score: 1

      There are only three Lone Gunmen, but yes it would be cool!

    2. Re:Possibilites with this One by Maul · · Score: 1
      You're correct, there are only three of them. I was hoping nobody would catch my mistake. X_X

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    3. Re:Possibilites with this One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they do it right, it will be cool, but there is a pretty good chance it won't. It might also be a bit tough to keep the show fueled. Perhaps slightly removing the focus from aliens and conspiracies might help. I mean, wouldn't they sometimes have to do things to get money? Hehe, hope it doesn't turn into a sitcom though....

    4. Re:Possibilites with this One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually there are 4 if I remeber correctly. There is a computer hacker named "The Thinker", he was in the season 2 finale. The x-files website used to mention this on the Lone Gunmen bio page, but the newly restructured x-files site is a completely worthless piece of fluff (the prior page was fluff as well, only to a much lesser extent).

    5. Re:Possibilites with this One by Mija+Cat · · Score: 1

      One or two "big" conspiracy shows (with appearances by CSM) do not a season make.

      What do they do with the rest of their time? Play Quake or browse Freshmeat?

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    6. Re:Possibilites with this One by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
      There is a computer hacker named "The Thinker", he was in the season 2 finale.


      Well, his corpse was anyway. :)

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  5. Geeks in X by Adler · · Score: 1
    A show about those 3 would make an excellent place for a Slashdot.org-TV-breakout.

    Everyone ready for "The X-Dot"?

    Seriously, Slashdot would fit in nicely with those 3. There is something about them that says "Linux users", that makes me REALLY feel like a geek. They could fit it in on a screen in background at least. Whatever.
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    1. Re:Geeks in X by Nastard · · Score: 1

      >Seriously, Slashdot would fit in nicely with those 3

      the last thing i wanna see on tv is david duchovney doing cameos while pouring hot grits down natalie portmans pants while gillian anderson smears raisins on her chest and talks about don knotts.

      then again it IS fox

    2. Re:Geeks in X by Kaufmann · · Score: 2

      You see, this is exactly the kind of prejudiced nonsense that pisses me off about Slashdot. No wonder one gets the feeling that this place is nothing but a haven for quasi-geek conformist Linux lusers who keep shouting "open the code!" but who have never written a single line of code in their lives. *sigh*

      I Am Not A Linux User (IANALU), and neither are many of the people on Slashdot. Stop thinking you rule the world: you don't.

      This is very much like the situation with Americans on the Internet. They are always so sure that they run the entire world. That pisses me off as well.

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    3. Re:Geeks in X by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
      Stop thinking you rule the world: you don't.


      No. But we rule Slashdot. Nyah nyah nyah.

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    4. Re:Geeks in X by jheinen · · Score: 1
      >This is very much like the situation with Americans on the Internet. They are always so sure that they run the entire world. That pisses me off as well.

      Yeah? Well how many aircraft carriers do *you* have? ;)

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    5. Re:Geeks in X by paranoid.android · · Score: 1

      You see, this is exactly the kind of prejudiced nonsense that pisses me off about Kaufmann. No wonder one gets the feeling that he likes to make broad, sweeping generalizations about other cultures. *sigh*

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  6. the lone gunmen rock by prijks · · Score: 1

    I find them to be the best characters on the show... I mean, certainly they lack the sex appeal that scully has, but I think those guys just have way more character than mulder and scully...

    I think there is probably enough of a following of those guys that such a show would have some degree of success, tho prolly not nearly as much as the parent show... but I mean, come on, I've got a lone gunmen t-shirt, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who envies their life style, and hey, marketing people have had success before by marketing their stuff toward punks like me...

    heh... tho not very often... =)

  7. Great Place for Linux by Greyfox · · Score: 3
    A lot of these TV shows would make a great place for Linux. Have Gillion Anderson carry around an IBM thinkpad (With a working mwave modem, for that X files twist) with Linux, X, Gnome/E and her own X files themes. It'd give the computer that unique flavor that the TV shows are always looking for without completely pissing off the technical viewership (Except maybe the bit about the working mwave modem.)

    Wonder how much it would cost IBM or RedHat to buy that spot on a couple of these shows...

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    1. Re:Great Place for Linux by biohazard99 · · Score: 1

      Worked for Lexmark, notice there are only Lexmark printers in all the offices and homes on X-files. LexMk paid an insane ammount of money for these subtle ads.

  8. I just dont get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why do all of you think the X-Files is so great? I'm not trying to be a troll, I just have hell trying to get myself to sit through an entire episode of it... it's boring, the plots are convoluted and make no sense. The storylines are written as if generated on a script: Agents get sent to check out something weird, Mulder goes off on a tangent and Scully tries to be logical, and then the rest of it is eye candy and lame attempts at mind fucking with the occasional weird attempt at humor. The theme song is decent, but that's all i like about the show. I don't get it, can someone please explain why they can actually tolerate watching it? I just hope theres no spinoff just so I dont have to put up with more X-files related crap. And by the way, Gillian Anderson has no sex appeal at all... unless you like pale, boring, stuffy, frigid, pretensious women like that...

    1. Re:I just dont get it by nomadic · · Score: 1

      The show used to be a lot better, in the first and second seasons, or at least it seems that way to me. That was back before the whole conspiracy storyline began to dominate, when the characters would investigate events that, in the end, weren't explained satisfactorily. The atmosphere was better, I think, because so much was hidden from viewer; an alien staring straight at the camera isn't nearly as frightening as a shadowy figure slipping by the darkness...

    2. Re:I just dont get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, you don't get it.
      Watch something else then or shut off the TV.

    3. Re:I just dont get it by ruin · · Score: 1
      Why do all of you think the X-Files is so great? I'm not trying to be a troll, I just have hell trying to get myself to sit through an entire episode of it...

      Ok ok... I guess I feel compelled to reply to this. There are many good reasons to like the X-Files, some people like it for its spooky atmosphere and horror episodes, and some people like it for its nonsensical convolted conspiracy plotlines. Myself I think it's entertaining, and a least an order of maginitude higher quality than all other TV shows.

      Some key points in favor of the show:

      1. Great characters. Say what you will about Gill and sex appeal, many people are attracted to at least one of Mulder and Scully. They're good-looking, they're funny, and they have a whole host of surrounding dramatis personae. The Lone Gunmen, for example... good enough to base a whole nother series on, maybe. (Actually, I'd much rather watch a spinoff focussing on Cancerman and the Consortium, but that's just me.)

      2. Good writing/acting. Ok, so not every episode is the original piece of plot in the world. At least it's not lame Hollywood crap. Plus, there are some real gems of episodes tossed in the mix. I recommend watching the show for at least a couple of weeks (one ep/day) before casting judgement.

      3. Excellent photography/direction. Like I said, ten times better than almost all other TV shows. It's dark, it's stylish, it's just plain fun to watch.

      4. Cool music. It goes past the theme too. Nothing like eerie music to add the sweet finishing touches to a good horrifying scene.

      Anyway, that's about all I have to say about that. I hope there isn't a LGM spinoff, just because spinoffs are usually not that great, and Chris Carter hasn't gone anything good in several years.

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  9. Dean Haglund by toastyman · · Score: 4

    Not completely related, but... I had the privilage of meeting Dean Haglund, one of the Lone Gunmen a few weeks ago, at a Fox party. (see obliglatory photo here). He mentioned to me that he had a website up where he talked about upcoming projects.... www.deanx.com doesn't mention anything about this, but I suppose he's not saying it's not true. :)

    His e-mail appears to be broken right now, perhaps when it's fixed we can see if he has any comments...

    1. Re:Dean Haglund by koolade · · Score: 1


      His site does mention it, but I guess it could be a recent update. He basically says that he heard about it, along with the other two, at an announcement without any prior knowledge about the deal. But there's no denial or confirmation. Read about it here

    2. Re:Dean Haglund by toastyman · · Score: 2

      Ok, smack me for being blind. His site *does* talk about this... http://www.deanx.com/buzz.htm

      (and it was at the TCA event he's speaking of where I met him... even spookier) :)

    3. Re:Dean Haglund by CleverNickName · · Score: 1
      Also not entirely related, but still interesting for X-Philes: Dean Haglund often performs improv in and around Los Angeles, California. I have seen him at the ACME Comedy Theatre on Friday nights a few times. He is very funny, and it's always nice to see actors who are locked into a series do something other than the character's we've gotten used to.

      T.J. Hooker being the notable exception.

    4. Re:Dean Haglund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I noticed that at www.deanx.com he used "hacker" to mean "cracker." Strike one

    5. Re:Dean Haglund by jfunk · · Score: 2

      That guy is hilarious. I saw him in the Canadian Improv Championships, which was pretty funny.

      Has anyone else seen the new shorts he's in that come on the Canadian Comedy Network late at night? It's this really cheesy thing about two hippy, stoner, conspiracy guys who happen to find Hanger 18 and end up getting abducted by aliens. It's basically dolls and props getting moved around with strings (like Fireball XL-5, only in colour with less production quality). I've seen two episodes so far. When they found hanger 18, there was all kinds of aliens in jars labelled "Property of C. Carter." They also get anal probes and smoke a lot of weed. It's quite funny.

  10. I knew this guy... by Dacta · · Score: 2
    who looked _exactly_ like the red haided lone gunman.

    It was pretty creepy - he worked in defence research, too, and had a number of PhDs in really weird, unrelated stuff - hypersonic aerodynamics, radar.

    I don't really knwo why I'm shareing this, though....

    1. Re:I knew this guy... by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Back in college I was in electricity & magnetism lab with someone that looked just like Lazlo from Real Genius. I used to see him walking through the Physical Sciences Building on the weekend all the time... the guy had the same mannerisms too. It was freaky.
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  11. Lone Gunmen Spinoff by Dark+Rom · · Score: 3

    The Sci Fi Wire, has an article about the fact that that FOX has given the green light for production of this spinoff, to quote the article "The show is envisioned as a light drama with humor and conspiracy themes. Carter reportedly plans to add a new character: a woman after whom the Gunmen lust." so just a tidbit follow the below to the full story.

    http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?200 0-02/04/11.00.tv

    1. Re:Lone Gunmen Spinoff by IHateEverybody · · Score: 1


      But they already have a woman to lust after! Scully!

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  12. And the point would be? by Ater · · Score: 1

    No offense, but how are a few 30 second spots/cameos going to benefit Linux and the Linux community in any way?

    It's not going to convince home viewers to rush out and install Linux on their home PC's, unless you expect them to hawk the product on the show: "Gee, Mulder, have you ever noticed that Red Hat Linux, which I am running on my laptop, performs much better than any Microsoft Windows platform. Note the superior uptime, the stability, and increased amount of free memory..." It's not going to convince software companies to support Linux... "OOH Linux on the X-Files, must port every program immedietally." It's not going to encourage investors. It's not going to get more quality programmers involved in the open source community.

    And to be honest, do you think Red Hat, VA, or the like, is going to pump money into Fox just so a small subset of techie fans will find it more realistic? I think it's already clear that Hollywood doesn't really care if they manage to please small subsets of viewers by making some parts of TV shows or movies seem more realistic?

    The question I am asking is, quite simply, why? Sure, maybe giving Gillian a Linux box will be cute and appealing to the geek demographic that watches the show, but the mainstream public will hardly care less. Besides, we don't need any more product plugging on our TV shows, even if it is to make things more realistic or to help a "good cause?" The waves of commercials are enough as it is... maybe RH and the like should purchase commercial time instead. Sorry to seem critical, but I just don't see what kind of point you're trying to make here.

    1. Re:And the point would be? by Akaji+Monkey · · Score: 2


      Hey, go easy on the guy - he's just blue-skying; there's no need to stomp all over him.

      Anyway, the only logical reason for wanting to see Linux on the X-Files is that it would be cool ;)

    2. Re:And the point would be? by Ater · · Score: 1

      Yeah I wasnt intending to flame him, it was just a general rant on the seeming /. mentality that Linux needs to be inserted into every single part of modern culture. It definitely wasnt supposed to be a personal attack if it came out that way.

    3. Re:And the point would be? by Akaji+Monkey · · Score: 1


      Presumably you're trying to start a distribution flame war, but I'll reply anyway.

      You're probably referring to OpenBSD, which places a high priority on security right out of the box. Unfortunately, a secure OS is no replacement for a smart system administrator. It doesn't really matter what you're running if you're incompetent.
      That said, I must admit that I find RH to be a little too overenthusiastic with the large number of daemons it starts up by default. Of course, anyone with a clue will go in and switch everything unnecessary off as soon as the installation's finished, but it would have been nice if they could have made it a bit more secure to start with.

    4. Re:And the point would be? by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
      I wasn't going to say anything,...


      Langley is a Linux guy, Byers is a BSD or a Sun guy, and I'd bet dimes to donuts that Frohike still uses either CPM or a VAX and still does some pretty cool kung-fu with it.


      That is, if I'm right and Langley is the blond guy. If not, switch Langley and Byers around.

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    5. Re:And the point would be? by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

      Wow. I agree completely! Langley (yes, he is the blond guy) strikes me very strongly as a Linux guy. And others seem completely in character as well. The point is, anything but Windows. Not for any zealous "Microsoft is evil!!!" reasons, rather because no serious cracker would every use a Wintel box because some form of *nix perfectly suited for that kinda stuff. Sadly, I doubt the writers would be competent enough to get that detailed, we'd actually be lucky to even see a recognizeable OS (and if it was, I'd bet is would be either Windows or Mac).

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    6. Re:And the point would be? by sjames · · Score: 2

      PC's, unless you expect them to hawk the product on the show: "Gee, Mulder, have you ever noticed that Red Hat Linux, which I am running on my laptop, performs much better than any Microsoft Windows platform

      Perhaps a softer sell with the Lone Gunmen. Mulder or Scully having trouble with laptop. One or the LG gets out Laptop with Tux screensaver, instantly performs the needed task and comments, 'You wouldn't have these problems if you ran a real operating system!'.

      I doubt it'd cause a sudden upset in the desktop marketshare, but it would be a nice 'in' joke for the Linux users out there (I'll bet that the proportion of Linux/Windows users who watch the X-files is higher than the general population).

  13. curious... by nomadic · · Score: 3

    It's interesting how Fox, being Fox, feels the need to put in a "competing theorist in the form of a beautiful young woman". While I have absolutely nothing against beautiful women, I wish they'd put as much thought into creating a believable character as they do on their wardrobe. It seems that every science or science fiction-oriented show seems to have that beautiful, 23-year old nuclear physicist who doesn't act or sound like a scientist, who is put in just so she can be seduced by the male protagonist, the tough, working-class, cerebrally -challenged all-American guy.

    1. Re:curious... by harmonica · · Score: 1

      That pretty much sums up the stereotype, but I think part of it (the attractive young female scientist) works for the X-Files and Scully, because she and Mulder never got involved that way.

      Of course there /is/ a certain tension...

    2. Re:curious... by nomadic · · Score: 1

      well, yes, that's one of the things I like about the X-files..Scully was a well-developed character. Hopefully it'll be the same for the new female lead.

    3. Re:curious... by Tarquin · · Score: 1

      Sounds kinda like James Bond flicks... ("The World Is Not Enough", anyone?) Of course, he's a gadgetally-enhanced Brit, not an All-American...

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    4. Re:curious... by CleverNickName · · Score: 1
      It seems that every science or science fiction-oriented show seems to have that beautiful, 23-year old nuclear physicist who doesn't act or sound like a scientist, who is put in just so she can be seduced by the male protagonist, the tough, working-class, cerebrally-challenged all-American guy.

      The reason they do this is because major networks are interested primarliy in ratings, because ratings allow them to charge their advertisers higher rates. Somewhere, some network pollster figured out that the primary audience for SF shows is males, ages 18-30, who, /surprise/ like to look at beautiful 23-year-old nuclear physicists. So the networks know that if they add a beautiful woman to the mix, more people will watch, and they can get higher ratings. (Besides, it's a FOX show...I think having beautiful people who don't do much more than look beautiful is part of their charter.)

      This is the same mode of thinking that has, IMNSHO, taken good, "pure" SF right out of our movie theatres, and replaced it with what the studios call "Sci-Fi-Action!" or "Sci-Fi-Horror!". It's too bad that we'll probably never see Ringworld or Foundation made in our lifetimes...which may be a blessing...I mean who wants to see Arkady played by Julia Roberts anyways?

    5. Re:curious... by IHateEverybody · · Score: 1


      who wants to see Arkady played by Julia Roberts anyways?

      Arkady Darrel right? She pretty young; something like 14 or 15. They'd need somebody like Natalie Portman or Lacey Chabert for her character.

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    6. Re:curious... by theaphila · · Score: 1

      uh, the most intriguing thing about scully is how persisantly she isn't "seduced by the male protagonist" (read: dolt)
      btw, i love her wardrobe.

  14. Dean 'E' by tiktok · · Score: 1

    I had the privilege of working with Dean Haglund in Vancouver in Theatresports in the 80s. He has a clever wit, and a sharp nose (oops) for comedy. I would entirely endorse a spin-off of him and the other lone gungeeks.

  15. Related news item by harmonica · · Score: 3

    Mr Showbiz had this too: http://mrshow biz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/204/lonegunmen02040 0.html.

    No flamebait meant, but why was this rejected when I suggested it some days ago?

  16. I have been saying this for years! by buckrogers · · Score: 1

    Giving the lone gunmen their own show would be a great idea. Me and my friends would all watch this show. Hell, I like them better than Sculley and Moulder. The few shows that had these fellows in them were the best X-files. These three are actually funny and can act.

    Someone with a clue needs to setup a five year plan and hire some good writers to setup a complex plot that wraps up before the interest in this show ends.

    The trouble that three people not associated with the government could get into boggles the mind. Whenever Moulder shot someone he could just hold up his badge and say "FBI." These three can't do that without ending up in jail. They are going to have to think their way out of jams.

    I see possibilities from Mission Impossible as well as Get Smart in a show with the Lone Gunmen.

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  17. Damn those Trolls are funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a lot of stuff posted on here under humor that I just don't find funny, but damn it, I laugh out loud every time I see a page filled with crap like "Roblimo ate my balls". And I laugh when I read about that guy with the lubricating midgets and the open source drew barrymore project. People say its ruining Slashdot, but what the hell does it really matter, if you just read the +5 posts, then all you get is the same opinion over and over again, it is bland... LONG LIVE THE TROLLS.

    1. Re:Damn those Trolls are funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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    2. Re:Damn those Trolls are funny by Nastard · · Score: 1

      karma be damned, but would you mind doing one of these with a line like "Nastard LICKED MY WANG" or the like ? just once i wanna see my name in a troll post. hell you can even opensource me, petrify me, and pour hot grits down my pants. i dont care.

  18. Fan Base by Stickerboy · · Score: 2

    Let's face it, 90% of x-philes don't watch the show for the special effects, the confusing and sometimes contradictory mytharc, or the spookiness factor (no inside joke intended).

    We watch it for the Mulder/Scully interaction, the jokes, the character development, the morbid curiosity of watching a dysfunctional couple stumble through the steps of their relationship under extreme circumstances. The most irrelevant parts of the storyline (to the average x-phile) tend to be the ones that have least to do with the characters. Mulder and Scully are fully fleshed out, nuanced characters that long-time viewers identify with. It helps that the actors are both attractive, without being oversexed, and they can play their parts convincingly without being pompous or suffering from William Shatner Syndrome.

    The reason I'm laying this out is that it would take an incredible amount of work to similarly flesh out the Lone Gunmen to evoke the same kind of viewer response. While they're a breath of fresh air whenever they appear on the X-Files, they are meant to play the foil, the comic relief, the supporting cast. I've watched the Lone Gunmen-centric episodes of the X-Files, and while they're enjoyable, frankly the best parts (read: most involving) are the ones where Scully or Mulder are included. While a select minority (especially the tech-oriented) would probably watch such a spin-off, the large majority of the X-Files fan base would probably lose interest.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    1. Re:Fan Base by springpin · · Score: 1
      I dunno.... I thought X-Files was better back in the early days. All this crazy stuff was going on with aliens, supernatural phenomenon, and genetic aberations. The government was always involved somehow, but we never new how or why. I stopped watching after they revealed the alien takeover conspiracy. After the mystery was taken away, there was no point in watching it anymore.

      I did like the X-files's particular brand of humor, but the Mulder/Scully relationship never interested me.

      So what I'm getting at is, if the Lone Gunmen spinoff brought back the air of mystery, I'd definately watch it.

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      ---Bless those silly trolls---
    2. Re:Fan Base by bla · · Score: 1

      i have to agree with you on this one. i'm pretty much a latecomer to the whole x-files thing (and now i don't have a tv so i'm missing this entire season...grrr), but one of the things that originally drew me to the show was the character development. and the humour. it's incredibly hard to find *any* science fiction that's cool *and* can laugh at itself. i used to sit around the tv with my friends, and we always agreed the best episodes were the ones where either mulder or scully had some serious character development, or we cracked up laughing. the show got downright silly at times. along with being interesting and somewhat thought-provoking.

      maybe if they keep up that same quality of character development with the lone gunmen the shouw could be really good, but if it's just a bunch of paranoid computer geeks running around and trying to get laid, i'll get bored real quick.

  19. Woo-Hoo by cyberm · · Score: 1
    "Woo-Hoo!" writes one on the aus.tv.x-files newsgroup

    Man, I wish I would be able for such astonishing concatenation of "o"'s and "w"'s and other nice letters, then I could get quoted or even be seen on slashdot.

  20. X-Files on DVD by Shaheen · · Score: 4

    I submitted this, but it got rejected, so here it is in thread post form:

    As bad or hypocritical as it is for me to bring this up in this forum, FOX has announced the X-Files (Season 1 so far) will be released on DVD in a full box set - 7 Discs with the entirety season 1 including the pilot. You can preorder your copy at DVDExpress for $90. Personally, I think it's quite a deal, but I dunno if I'm going to buy it with all this MPAA stuff going on...

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    1. Re:X-Files on DVD by HermDog · · Score: 1

      You aren't being hypocritical [STANDARD DISCLAIMER: as far as I can tell -- you are probably a complex person with many personal contradictions like the rest of us, but there's nothing hypocritical in your post]. You and I and a lot of other people would probably very much like to be able to watch the X-files. The hypocrites are those who are selling the DVDs but don't seem to want us to have any choice about how we watch them.

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      JADBP
    2. Re:X-Files on DVD by AGTiny · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the ENTIRE show, all 7 seasons + movie(s), on DVD. (What's that, like 49 discs?) hehe.. I think just having the first season would be cool, but I know they'll release some sort of box set with all of them eventually. I'm sure it won't be cheap, though!

    3. Re:X-Files on DVD by dkscully · · Score: 1

      I am so looking forward to this being available.

      Having held off from buying the VHS versions, I'm pleased to see my patience rewarded.

      Now all I have to do is find the money.

  21. As much as I like The Lone Gunmen.. by Skinka · · Score: 2

    ..I have to say I'm somewhat sceptical about this. IMHO the lone gunmen (along with CSM) are the best characters in X-files, but I think that has a lot to do with fact that they are shown very rarely. Give them their own show and they will probably run out of the "good stuff" pretty soon. When the lone gunmen have an appearence in the X-Files, you can always count on it being funny or weird, but I'm not sure that can carry a whole TV-Show.

  22. What They Should do is... by IHateEverybody · · Score: 1


    Personally, I think that Scully would be a Mac geek. Is that a contradiction in terms?

    The Lone Gunman would be constantly fighting over which distro to use. Byers use Redhat with the KDE Desktop on his custom built Dell machine. Langely would be a Slackware/Debian fanatic with a dozen partitions on his hard drive and no case on his computer. Frohike would just sneer disdainfully at them as he upgrades the OpenBSD machine that he built in '95 with hardware that he steals from the IBM booth at Comdex every year.

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    1. Re:What They Should do is... by Glytch · · Score: 1

      I don't know about Scully using a Mac. I see her more as a NT workstation person. Relatively mainstream computer user, with a need for common programs, but she's smart enough to see that 9x just doesn't cut it for real work.

      Byers might use Solaris. He just seems the type. (Read into that what you will...)

      Langely is definitely the Slackware type, but probably keeps a Win9x box kicking around to play a few games when he has time, and to watch DVDs. I can imagine him saying in a total dead-pan to the question about his computer's ventillation, "There is no case."

      As for Frohike, you're dead-on. OpenBSD all the way for him. I don't think he even entirely trusts his two partners. He probably has some heavy-duty encryption on all his hard drives. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some daemons set to do Nasty Things to his friends' machines if his machines detected something hostile coming from them.

    2. Re:What They Should do is... by IHateEverybody · · Score: 1

      As for Frohike, you're dead-on. OpenBSD all the way for him. I don't think he even entirely trusts his two partners. He probably has some heavy-duty encryption on all his hard drives. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some daemons set to do Nasty Things to his friends' machines if his machines detected something hostile coming from them.

      That's probably true, plus Frohike would probably take the hard drive out of his computer and carry it with him whenever he had to turn it off for some reason.

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    3. Re:What They Should do is... by hikari · · Score: 1

      You give her too much credit. She's the kind of person who has a waving letter floating around the screen when the mail comes!

      --Hikari

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      --Hikari
      "Long distance information/ Disconnect me if you can/ On Detonation Boulevard..."
  23. Re:the xfiles is such a stupid show by inosent1 · · Score: 0

    what? how was this a troll? i think you moderators need to try some raisins for a change.

  24. The Barr Pount Is Back for the Oh Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Bar Pount is back, so all you nay-sayers better watch it

  25. Oh Oh -- You didn't know know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The Barr Pount has none of the following:
    Hot Grits, Naked and Petrified Natalie Portman, Pancakes, Ninjas, Smeared Rasins, or Don Knotts;

    however, the Pount is still back for the Oh Oh.

    1. Re:Oh Oh -- You didn't know know? by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
      Oh no... Slashdot is developing MEMES??


      Next Andrea Chen will start posting here.

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      "Reactionaries must be deprived of the right to voice their opinions; only the people have that right." - Mao

  26. you got something coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Click here to find out more

  27. try this one on for size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  28. The new troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Barr Pount beats out any other trollin comments because it's back for the Oh Oh, and

    -=)ONTOURATTHEWS(=-

    thank you.

  29. Re:I'd rather see... by Hot+Grits · · Score: 1

    Hey. How about everybody pours me down their pants? eh? eh? come on, now. don't be shy.

  30. it doesnt make any sense by Nastard · · Score: 1

    why would they want to do a spinoff ? i mean, X hasnt even reached 4.0 yet.

    and how does fox have anything to do wi... oh.

    nevermind

  31. More Spin off ideas. by luckykaa · · Score: 1

    New Buffy spin off: Giles in "The Librarian"
    Star Trek series to replace DS9: "Star Trek: Tribble"
    Blake's 7 spin off: "The adventures of Orac"
    Inspired by Slashdot: "Bytes and Nybbles - Erotica on the internet"

    1. Re:More Spin off ideas. by radja · · Score: 2

      Oh.. I wanna see the blake's 7 spinoff.. and I wonder when the Daleks get their own series...

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      --Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
  32. Re:I'd rather see... by radja · · Score: 2

    not enough room in there

    //rdj

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    No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
    --Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
  33. TNP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want TROLLS Naked and petrified. mmm mmm those guys with their rolls of fat would make real good statues!!!

    1. Re:TNP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee golly
      Yer right on mista
      Let's have a troll petrification day where all the trolls get petrified and can't use slashdot no more. That'ld show them.

  34. Doctor who spinoffs by luckykaa · · Score: 1

    Yeah! A dalek series would be great.

    Ever see the K-9 spin off though. Very 80's hi-tech. It had most amazingly cheesy intro ever. The intro also had K-9 dynamically sitting on a wall, and Sarah Jane smith sipping wine.

  35. Me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am such a badass. Sheeeit.

  36. You know what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am sitting home naked. Gently stroking my enourmous erect penis. Now that's an X-file!

    1. Re:You know what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only enormous if enormous means greater than .01cm

  37. Yet more new spinoff Ideas by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    As inspired by the short story "The Croud" it's
    Law & Order: The Croud
    Featuring those three people who seem to have made it into the backround of every episode so far.

    As inspired by the continual inclusion of a last-series character on at least one episode of the next series it's
    Star Trek: Morg or Mort or whatever that guy's name is

    As inspired by thousands of idiots who didnt stop to think first it's
    Man, you know what would be cool.. a zork TV show.. where every week he has to battle a grue or something..
    Featuring such memorable characters as The Theif, The Jester, and a small brick of clay!

    Damn I suck at this.

    Sim TV Show! Featuring tile #237 as special agent shmox puldarian!

    Ok I'll stop now.

    Anyone want to remove that asshole Troll below me?

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    -- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
  38. hey hey hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a troll parade
    You know we have to do it
    We like to get out
    And make the children boo it

    Three Cheers for TROLLS!!!!
    HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
    HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
    HIP HIP HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. I have just... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...ejaculated

    1. Re:I have just... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      on me?????
      I sure hope so cuz I need all the protein I can get!!!!!!

  40. Re:I'd rather see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's right his emormous black cock is just taking up too much room in his skin tight spandex shorts!!!

  41. yes by voodoochile · · Score: 1

    YUM is the word, for sure.

  42. Re:Inside scoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    woo hoo suckah!!!

  43. While that would be great. by angelo · · Score: 1

    While it would be great to have a spin-off of the Lone Gunmen, I'd hate to see Chris Carter suffer another dead series. Harsh Realm was violent, dull and plotless. Millennium usually put me to sleep at a time slot of 9 on Friday. Damn, that's LATE for a Friday, aside from the fact that it's one of the deadest nights of the week. If TGIF could be on top of Friday nights for the past ten years, it's no wonder that these two failed.

    I like X Files, in fact, it's one of my favorites. I hope The Lone Gunmen turns out to be a good spin-off, and not something like Poltergeist: The Legacy. Aside from its irritating knock-off of a White Wolf Games title, it probably shows off the worst Canadian acting and writing. I watch a great deal of Canadian televison, since it is heavily in syndication.

    sidenote: a list of good Canadian TV shows:
    Kung Fu: The Legend Continues, Due South, Forever Knight, First Wave, Sliders, Lexx, Stargate SG1, The Outer Limits, and Earth Final Conflict. Not to mention the questionable "Me Too" adventure shows that came after Hercules and Xena, which can be painful to watch. And let's not forget TekWar. Oh, and the first 5 seasons of X files, but that seems to be a mostly American Production.
    Most of these are shot in Vancouver, BC.

    1. Re:While that would be great. by kulturkritik · · Score: 1


      uh, as I am canadian, I must protest. All of those except Due South suck and if there are indeed canadian productions, nothing to be proud of...

      Although Alan Alda (I think unless I'm imagining things) was on The Outer Limits once...but actually that was kind of depressing.

    2. Re:While that would be great. by Mark+F.+Komarinski · · Score: 1

      Ya forgot the best one. Red Green.

      I gotta admit, it was kinda funny seeing Ranger Gord on EFC two weeks ago as a TV reporter.

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    3. Re:While that would be great. by angelo · · Score: 1

      uh, as I am canadian, I must protest. All of those except Due South suck and if there are indeed canadian productions, nothing to be proud of...

      And I guess as a Canadian, you think US shows rock? Give me a break. Every popular show in the US is either a formulaic drama or a lousy comedy. We have seen countless shows come and go with the same plots, sets and concepts as the last. NBCABCCBSFOXUPNWB just turn them out one by one, same people, same sets, same plastic sense of humour. It's odd that people in Canada get US satteite codes to watch NBC. I won't even watch that channel.

    4. Re:While that would be great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TV fries your brain. I don't even own one nor do I ever wish I did.

    5. Re:While that would be great. by angelo · · Score: 1

      I love that "TV fries your brain" rubbish. If TV fries your brain, then so does the internet. It has about the same quality, possibly less, of mind-numbing uselessness.

    6. Re:While that would be great. by kulturkritik · · Score: 1


      re-read my post. Did I mention US shows anywhere? How did you infer that I think US shows rock? I didn't say anything about US shows. All I said was that almost all of those canadian shows mentioned suck.

      We can apply a law...I forget the name: "90% of everything is crap." which applies equally to canadian and american television, and I can testify to this from experience, since canada has healthy doses from both sides of the border, whereas I don't think the US has much Can. programming.

    7. Re:While that would be great. by kulturkritik · · Score: 1

      ...and here is evidence to this fact you point out.

      And I'm contributing to it!

      Actually, the internet is more useful than tv for me (and many others). eg. I can find papers on interesting topics that I would otherwise need to hunt down in libraries. And it's cold outside.

      fyi, anyway. Maybe justifying the time you spend online would make you less cynical. Staying away from slashdot would help too.

    8. Re:While that would be great. by jfunk · · Score: 2

      Ouch. While I really like Due South, I generally hate sci-fi television. For some *really* good Canadian television, check out The Newsroom, Twitch City, or Made in Canada. I'm even known to sit down and laugh my ass of at Butch Patterson ("Money troubles?" "Ah, nothing a video camera and some runaways can't fix.") or Kevin Spencer.

    9. Re:While that would be great. by biohazard99 · · Score: 1
      A Canadian friend lamented once to me that Canada had the opourtunity to become the greatest nation in the world, with
      • British Culture
      • French Cooking
      • and American technology

      But instead got screwed up and got

      • British Cooking
      • American Culture
      • and French Technology

      And then I wept with her for I knew it was truth she spake

  44. Not a good idea by Lemuel · · Score: 1

    I'm not so sure a show about the Lone Gunmen would be a good idea. Often characters are best left mysterious; if you know too much about them it takes away half the fun. Fonzie was more interesting when he was a mysterious side character, and Hawk from Spencer for Hire shouldn't have gotten his own series.

  45. Spinoff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i hear the new show will be called "the grits files" and will be about how mulder eats hot grits out of his own pants. thank you.

  46. !troll by digigasm · · Score: 1

    Kill your TV. Really! Turn it off for one week. If I was a billionare, I'd pay people to do anything besides watching TV. PLEASE. I want to live in a country with no TVzombies or "pop-culture (gag)"


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  47. Gillian Anderson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unlesss Gillian Anderson does regular
    cameos. Yum.

    Ug. Yuck. Definatly NOT a Hottie. I can think
    of 12 dozen better looking women, no problem.

  48. Anyone remember Harsh Realm? by Nottingham · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who remembers Harsh Realm? Carter's other spinoff that lasted about 3 episodes before Fox yanked it. It sucked, all of Carter's stuff sucks. I treat X-File popularity much like the Mac's popularity. A bunch of fanatics who have convinced themselves that Carter can do no wrong, no matter how crappy, overdone and hackneyed the show gets.

    1. Re:Anyone remember Harsh Realm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is because I put a pox on Carter for making FOX yank Space: Above and Beyond just because he wanted his writers back full time.

    2. Re:Anyone remember Harsh Realm? by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

      Uh...don't you see the paradox in your post? If X"-Files" fans are fanatics that think Carter can do know wrong, why then did no one watch "Harsh Realm"?

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    3. Re:Anyone remember Harsh Realm? by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
      HR kinda sucked, but keep in mind that in a pilot storylines often have to be sacrificed in order to introduce the premise and all the characters.


      Frankly, I don't think Fox gave the show adequate time to prove itself. A lot of fun things could have been done.

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  49. Re:X-Files on DVD - a DEFINITE buy! by Mija+Cat · · Score: 1

    Here's why.

    First, X-Files are great.

    More importantly, if the suits at the movie studios see a drop in demand for DVD, they'll shuffle content to some new proprietary format. By keeping demand for DVDs up, we keep a proprietary format we can already access...at least for now.

    Meow

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  50. Harsh Realms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hopefully it lasts longer than "Harsh Realms".

    That was shaping up to be a great show, and then, after 3 short episodes, nothing.

    Now we get to watch Judge Judy 5 nights a week. Who watches that, I can't believe that gets better ratings than MASH re-runs.

    "Yes ma'am, you do have stupid written on your forhead."

  51. Gillian Anderson, Jedi council member? by kip3f · · Score: 1

    Read the rumor at Coming Attractions. The rumor was posted on January 12, 2000, so you need to click on the "archive" link.
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  52. Why? by Gyver · · Score: 1

    Don't you think there is enough blatant commercialism on TV and in movies as it is without us joining in. One thing that is so appealing to me and a lot of other people about the geek community is our stedfastness toward conformity. This would be one of the worst forms of conformity that I can think of. Linux get enough publicity as it is, so much so in fact that I'm starting to worry that it, itself will soon become an institution

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steadfastness towards conformity? Doesn't this mean you like conformity?

  53. Is Scully hot -- WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see all these "yum" references, presumably implying that Scully is hot. Do many people think this? Why? She looks pretty ordinary to me as far as tv people go.

    1. Re:Is Scully hot -- WTF? by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1

      Smart is sexy. Most of my attraction to Scully is that she can use the words "mycologist" and "necrotize" in a scentence.

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    2. Re:Is Scully hot -- WTF? by xphiler · · Score: 1

      If you've wathced the show from the beginning, you would have seen Scully transform from a regular girl into a sex symbol. I also think the sexual tension between her and Mulder make her hotter. I can't wait till they have sex.

  54. MPAA be damned! by Gyver · · Score: 1

    MPAA be damned. X-files season 1 on DVD is MINE. I hadn't heard about this thanks for the info.

  55. How about Tea Leone as the Scientist babe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It could allow some great possibilities for scenes with David Duchovny during the inevitible cross-over of the LG series into the X-files new movies.

  56. Lone Gunmen stink by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

    Yes, IMO the Lone Gunmen stink. They reinforce every bad stereotype about geeks/hackers. Socially inept, wacko conspiracy theorists, dangerous...etc.

    I don't watch X-Files, but the times I've had to I've groaned whenever the Lone Gunmen appear.

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    1. Re:Lone Gunmen stink by springpin · · Score: 1
      They reinforce every bad stereotype about geeks/hackers. Socially inept....

      Geeks/Hackers generally are socially inept, except among are own kind. Basically we don't fit into normal everyday society with non-geeks very well.

      ...wacko conspiracy theorists...

      I don't believe that the lone gunmen could be defined as "wacko", since it usually turns out that they're right.

      ...dangerous...

      Dangerous how?

      ...etc.

      As my World History teacher from high school explained it, you should only use etcetera when there are obvious continuations to a list that are too numerous to mention; not when you can't think of anything else to say.

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    2. Re:Lone Gunmen stink by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      "Geeks/Hackers generally are socially inept, except among are own kind. Basically we don't fit into normal everyday society with non-geeks very well."

      Yes...this is exactly the stereotype they reinforce. How ARE geeks/hackers going to be socially accepted if everybody else thinks they are like the Lone Gunmen?

      The Lone Gunmen are usually portayed in a manner that reinforces stereotypes. I remember one episode where Mulder/Scully walk in to a dark room and they are huddled about playing Dungeons and Dragons, pictured as some sort of dark cabal.

      Dangerousness is reinforced whenever they insidiously "hack" into some system.

      etc.

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  57. I hope for Chris's sake... by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1

    That he doesn't offer it to the Fox network. Fox'd kill it faster than you can say "Harsh Realm".

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  58. 90%? No fooling? by chromatic · · Score: 1

    I guess I'm in the minority here, but I watch the show 'cuz I still have a shred of hope that Chris Carter (and Frank Spotnitz) can actually pull the main storyline together, despite evidence to the contrary.

    This week we believe in aliens. Next week, they'll start invading! Ooh, a brain-eating monster, let's go chase it instead! C'mere Chompy, hee hee hee. The Super Global Mega Conspiracy who keeps killing people off can't hurt us while we're wandering off to investigate Killer Monster of the Week, no! Wait, I don't believe in aliens this week. Maybe next week!

    Is it too much to ask that Chris Carter focus his attention on the X-Files long enough to give it some creative direction, instead of "Two goofy FBI agents investigate something so strange and bizarre that lovable weirdness ensues! Oh, and have the monster of the week chew on somebody by the end of the second act. Just don't have CSM stand around looking menacing. That's OUR bit."?

    Boy, I sound bitter, don't I? Sorry.

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  59. Space:Above and Beyond by I-Rev · · Score: 1

    Space:Above and Beyond was great, apart from the token Brit, looking for sandwiches in the desert, while learning to speak alien lingo - All the americans had new uniforms, so they looked modern, while this brit looked like a escapee from the Great Escape, with a 1940's Oxford accent to boot. Bang on, wot! Don't let jerry get you down, eh!! Does anyboby know if more Space:Above and Beyond was made other than the episodes leading up to the group being split up? (One floating in space, two crashing to a planet, and two escaping back to base). It was a great show, with a good storyline running through it, and you didn't know who would survive through each episode. Whipped the ass of Star Trek, and was pretty close to Babylon 5.

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    1. Re:Space:Above and Beyond by darrenford · · Score: 1

      puh-leaz. This was one show I _really_ really wanted to like. Especially since it was almost DOOM on T.V. I never watched an episode that wasn't a major disappointment. Putting it in the same league as B5 leaves me speechless. Did anybody ever wonder why in the first episode of Space:A&B, we have a bunch of kids who will do anything to get to space, so they jump on board a colony ship and take off. After landing on some planet, they are completely obliterated by a bunch of mean aliens. The colonists were completely defenseless because humans had never discovered any other alien beings. Fast forward a couple of days and the earth has a complete space military complete with battle cruisers, fighters, landing parties, etc. Why all this defense when the earth thought they were alone in the galxy? Where was the escort for the colonists? WHY DIDN'T THOSE KIDS JUST JOIN THE MILITARY TO START WITH?

    2. Re:Space:Above and Beyond by I-Rev · · Score: 1

      We (Meaning U.S./China/Microsoft (now a large armed force, fighting for geek rights, and advertising space on the side of rockets)were all probably fighting over the Moon or Mars, designing evil laser weapons, and flashy jumpsuits. Now there are Aliens to shoot, we all join forces - Hurrah, World peace!!! Probably set up a Nuc a Non-Human Day (Mid summer - Longer days, can get more killing in)

      My mistake - Too much beer when watching the series - (Beer - Makes things better! Why don't they run advertisements with this slogan?) Completely forgot about that. You're right, not as good as B5, but better than Star Trek with the moral message at the end of every show!

      We all know that when we go out to space to take over planets, local bunny-type living entities should watch out - we'll be packin'!

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  60. In the words of BUTT-HEAD by Lord+Kano · · Score: 2

    "YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES!"

    I was hoping that this would happen. Maybe Rob could swing a cameo or two. No, BS I was saying to my wife when I found out that this season would be the last that I hoped that they'd spin off a Lone Gunmen series and it now looks like I've gotten my wish.

    LK

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  61. Kill Switch? by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
    Yack! That episode was horrible!


    William gibson not only knows little about computers ("He invented internet!"), he doesn't know his counterculture either.

    That "Invisigoth" character made me fall out of my chair and wet myself.


    The 2-parter about the mysterious blond was far better.


    "C'mon! Daddy needs a new sword of wounding!"

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    1. Re:Kill Switch? by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

      I didn't say it was good. I think calling the depictions of "hacking" horribly bad qualifies as not calling it good. But I think the basic idea behind it was interesting, and maybe in someone else's hands (specifically, someone who knows something about computers) it could actually be cool.

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  62. Focus: Journalism? by Thag · · Score: 2

    As I see it, the Lone Gunmen are primarily journalists, trying to get the word out, maybe get that big break that will let them spread the Truth to everyone. Maybe this female nemesis could be a reporter for a big-name news agency, and she keeps poaching their stories.

    One problem they're going to have is that at first nobody wants to listen to them, and then when the story gets out, everybody watches it on CNN instead. So they're stuck on the bleeding edge of journalism, turning over rocks to find something interesting, and then trying to make themselves heard in the stampede.

    Another difference between Mulder and the Lone Gunmen is that Mulder never gets a false lead, probably because anything that comes to his attention has already been filtered once through FBI investigators. It's always a real monster. The Lone Gunmen aren't going to have nearly as good a hit-to-miss ratio, because they're tracking down rumors and innuendo. But maybe they could come across something worth investigating while tracking a false lead, too...

    Lastly, if the Lone Gunmen are Mulder's wild and out-there contacts, I wonder what their wierd friends are like...

    Jon

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  63. It can't be done. by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1

    This is a serial after all, after the great childrens cinematic tradition of the 40's and 50's. The genre dictates that every episode end in a cliffhanger. If CC pulled the story together and actually resolved something, it would only be entertaining for that episode and then people would stop watching. Interest in the underlying premise is built by adding new plots and more complexity. Unfortunate, but that's just the way a serial works.

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  64. I don't think it would last by cara · · Score: 1
    The lone gunmen make great supporting characters for the X-Files, but I honestly don't think they have what it takes to have a show focused on them be successful.

    In the X-Files, the show is balanced between Mulder's crazy ideas and Scully's scientific explanations and that is part of what makes it cool. I think a lot of us are scientific types and Scully helps make things not totally unbelievable. A show focusing on the lone gunmen, described in the article as "the Mulder-worhsipping Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists," would be too unbalanced. I, and most people I think, like to see some elements of realism in any TV show. It gives us something to relate to.

    1. Re:I don't think it would last by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

      Don't dismiss it until you've seen it; a spin-off with a supporting cast member can be very successful if done right. For instance, Fraser is a spin-off of Cheers, and is very successful and, IMHO, far better than the original. Fraser Crane as he appeared in Cheers would not have made a very good character in his own show, but they did major work on his character and did a really good job.

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  65. The Lone Gunmen: The Series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Lone Gunmen are the coolest characters on The X-Files. Yet, I don't think they're deserving of their own series.

    1. Re:The Lone Gunmen: The Series by datalith · · Score: 1

      I don't think that its they're not 'worthy' of a show... I just don't think they can carry a show without changing the characters and that would ruin it in my opinion.

  66. You know... by cr0sh · · Score: 1

    I have read most of the threads on this article, and two stood out in my mind, both negative - 1) That a LG spinoff would deteriorate rather quickly because of lack of material, and 2) That the X-Files was boring, because of material that was "too out-there"...

    My response on both of these - Do any of you troll the web? I mean, so many times I come across article, rants and various other discussions about how the web is so commercialized and how there is nothing interesting on it, only to shake my head knowing these people are wrong. With a few search engines and some clicks, I have found all manner of strange things - as long as people can publish their own stuff, there will always be fun pages out there...

    Here is one - which, strangely enough, I found while trolling Ebay for something or another:

    http://table.jps.net/~einc/index.html

    It is called the Constant Society - I can't figure out if the guy who wrote this page believes this stuff, what portion is real and fake, or whether it is all a joke (probably the last). At any rate, I think this has to be one of the stranger pages. The material on this site alone could last the LG a season, if tweaked right.

    And this is only one site - keelynet and eskimo could last a few seasons (both LG and XF), and there are many more sites out there. Considering what has been done on the X-Files, I can't believe the amount of stuff that hasn't been covered in that show (and if you read a fair amount of occult and high strangeness material, you know what I mean).

    If done right, there is a lot of material to be covered - heck, pull some stories based on stuff from Weekly World News (like the Ape-Man story that recently ran - what was funny about that story - it is TRUE. One of the few true stories they run every now and then, I had previously watched on TV a show detailing the life and times behind that strange chimpanzee, with video of the animal walking upright and such - makes me want to go out to that zoo in Texas to see for myself!)...

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  67. OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually from what I've seen of their monitors the lone gunmen seem to be usning a lot of dos(or simmilar text base) and some non windows GUI. I think a fictional OS would be best. I figure if they us open source then they'd probably customize it up the yinyang.

    agent scully *drool*

  68. X-Files Chic by Chasuk · · Score: 1

    This isn't flaimbait or a troll, though some may choose to interpret it as such. It is merely the very puzzled question: why do so many like the most damaging show on TV?

    When I was a teen, all of the wacko conpiracy theorists were quietly tolerated, and the National Enquirer was their rag. Generally they were John Birchers/KKK'ers/Aryan Nation nutcases. Nobody had heard of the "New World Order" or black helicopters or FEMA's evil plots and Christian Identity groups were just a perverted nightmare. However, after the X-Files gave crackpots and paranoids respect, all of the aforementioned were suddenly "cool." Abducteees are no longer laughed at or pitied, people talk seriously about alien proctologists on Art Bell, and thousands of certifiably commitable lunatics have stopped taking their medication.

    I also believe that the resurgence in homophobia/racism/creationism/flat-earthers/etc. has a direct connection to "X-Files chic." More times than I can count I've listened to otherwise sane people discuss episodes of the X-Files as if they were literal truth.

    Doesn't this scare anyone else? Or am I just alarmist and a loon?

  69. might re-convert me!!!!! by Stalcair · · Score: 1
    If this happened I might actually start watching it. I havent watched X-files since last season. But then, I am wierd in that I actually feel jerked around when it seems most episodes were written by two different people.

    One for the first half, witty, entertaining, suspensful and ORIGINAL, then Bobo the monkey comes in and finishes up for him.

    its kinda like blue-balls, 'cept....different!

    my view of X-files lately (minus this last year of course... since I haven't bothered):

    Mulder: "...this conspiracy is everywhere, touching the entire earths population... Scuzzy, are you listening to me?"
    Scully: "What, were you droning again? Yeah, whatever, I need proof and scientific method, blah, blah, blah... unless of course YOU are the sceptical one, then I will be all over this crap!"
    Mulder: "Uhhh, why can't we ever be casted in a cooperative role, and actually both believe or disbelieve in something at the SAME TIME, and not spend the ENTIRE episode convincing each other of something stupid...?"
    Scully: "WHAT?! You mean actually treat episode plots as cohesive, more than just vague references? MOULDer, you're not actually suggesting..."
    Mulder: "Yes, I think it would be nice for our characters, and the supporting characters as well, to actually be cognizant of events outside of each individual episode... Imagine if everytime a massive city sized spacecraft, or some such conspiracy related nick-nack, appeared over thousands or millions, that they would actually remember it, and peoples' outlook would change..."
    ENTER LARGE SPACECRAFT WITH SEVERAL MILLION WITNESSES... BEHAVING IN SUCH A WAY THAT THERE IS NO DOUBT IT IS ALIEN
    Scully: "WOW!"
    Mulder: "Hey, you were conscience this time!"
    Scully: "Don't worry, I will press this "History eraser button" and everyone will forget this ever happened... except for you, of course. What a block-head"
    Mulder: "Not again! Good Grief!"

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  70. Boycott Fox! by thales · · Score: 2

    Fox is a MPAA member. I'll consider watching it AFTER the MPAA drops the DeCSS piriacy BS. Untill then I'm boycotting the Network, the movies, and anything else Fox owns.

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  71. War of the Worlds, anyone? by G+Andrews · · Score: 1

    Yeah, my dad says the same thing about the X-Files, only he doesn't phrase it as well; he mostly says it's making people "believe in aliens." I remind him that a RADIO show, of HIS time, actually caused people to panic about the presence of aliens-- War of the Worlds. It's not like there's no precedent for people believing in TV too much; the X-Files isn't anything new. And what are you going to do about it? I'm always one to argue that the system of media we have now be completely overhauled, and that kids be educated to be better media consumers. But in the end I don't want to sterilize TV and make it only have messages that don't hurt or mislead us. besides, we all know that War of the Worlds was REAL. regards, John Bigbootie

    1. Re:War of the Worlds, anyone? by G+Andrews · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, and I forgot to add: if the X-Files leads people to question the actions of the US government, more power to 'em. --john ya-ya

  72. wow, i called this one by _martini_ · · Score: 1

    back when anderson and duchovney said they were leaving the xfiles, i made this post:

    "I think if anything else happens with the show, it will spawn spin-offs. Kinda like Star Trek/TNG/DS9/Voyager. Other than that, the show is going to die."

    right on the money, eh? it's post #63 <a href="http://slashdot.org/articles/99/10/06/164924 2.shtml">here</a> (for some reason, it won't let me link just the post)

  73. Re:4 Lone Gunmen by unitron · · Score: 1

    I watch X-Files intermittently, but during the first or second year there was an episode with the LGs where one of them made a remark about laughing at the scientific inaccuracies on (the short-lived NBC series) Earth II. It seems to me that there were four of them on that episode. Anybody remember it better than I do?

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