As for Xeon workstations, last I checked Dell's been selling them ever since they could.
Yes but I was talking about the 3GHz C2Q. AFAIK Apple was there first with that one. It's not necessarily of huge significance in itself, but my point was that "PCs are definitely the place to go if you want the latest technology" is at best a throwaway comment.
Talk about re-hashing an over-discussed story with a quirky gimmick...
PCs are definitely the place to go if you want the latest technology. PCs were privileged to the first Intel Core and Core 2 Duo CPU
Well that's debatable. Apple recently launched the first 3GHz dual Core 2 Quadro Xeon based computer to my knowledge by shoving these bleeding-edge chips into the Mac Pro. Also they do invent (individually and collbaoratively) useful technology, like FireWire. Sometimes you do get things first with Apple.
I had a MIMO Netgear wireless card and router once. They claimed it doubled the bandwidth and range of your WLAN on the same principle. I thought using two signals was kind of cheating, but it worked.
The Geek quotes retail list, for the ultimate boxed set, in whatever currency makes the numbers look most dramatic
Yep. The UK is usually a good bet for that. Maplin sells Ultimate full version at RRP - £370 ($740) and Amazon has it for £310 ($620). These are typical prices here.
Are you really trying to argue that NT provides some useful sort of compatibility for Unix apps? Citing the Wikipedia as a source does not do much to create credibility for your conjecture.
And citing roughlydrafted is better? Sorry, couldn't resist.
I dont see how you extrapolaite the upgrade numbers are down from new computer sales. Unless you are just guessing that lack of faith equals lack of upgrades.
I'm saying that it's easier to get consumers to passively accept a new default OS for new computer sales than it is to convince them to actively go out and buy an upgrade for their existing PC, and if they're struggling to do the former then this doesn't look good for upgrade sales.
Well, not directly when you're talking about new machines. But the markets may lose confidence in Microsoft if we don't start seeing returns on their massive six-year project to update their core product.
The fact that customers are pleading with PC suppliers to provide an XP option also hints at the lack of Vista upgrade sales for existing PCs.
TFA reviews the My Book Pro, but they also have a USB-only My Book "Essential" (read: Cheaper!) version; anyone tried those?
Yep - I have a My Book Pro 500GB as per article and a My Book Essential Edition 400GB. They also do a Premium drive which sits between the two - it has USB2.0 and FireWire 400 but not the 800. I use my drives on a MacBook Pro and am happy with both. Setup is plug in and go and I don't use any of the included software. I bought the Pro version for the FireWire 800 alone; the status rings you get on the Pro and Premium drives aren't particularly useful - they don't show anything you can't find in an instant on-screen. Basically buy a Pro if you want Firewire 800, a Premium if you want Firewire 400 or the Essential if you're happy with USB2.0.
As a fully-fledged passport-holding UK citizen, I would like to say that I wholeheartedly agree with my government's policy on surveillance; privacy is not a right - it's a nuisance. I also agree with all curent and future policies of this government and will certainly be voting Labour come the next general election.
Absolutely. I have an MSDN subscription and due to being allowed a limited number of activations for testing purposes, they (as in Microsoft MSDN) actually recommend that if you don't intend on keeping an installation for long, don't activate as it'll burn through your quota. The trouble with this, and I'm including XP here too, is that Windows Update these days doesn't let you install patches without activation.
But if you buy a new computer, Vista is what you are going to get because Microsoft wants it that way.
I absolutely agree, but what's interesting is how easy it still is to get a laptop with XP and in fact many are XP in the default configuration despite Vista being available to business customers since end November and vendors having had quite some time to prepare for the public release. IIRC, almost as soon as XP came out, Windows 2000 machines were pretty much 'special order' or end of line only. I bought an XP ThinkPad last week and it was surprising how many current laptop models I could choose from despite my XP Pro requirement.
Obviously the built-in search is the biggest win. If you don't mention this in your pros, no wonder you don't like Vista
Vista search is an improvement to that in XP but it still sucks. Sorry to refer to OSX again, but Spotlight shows how to do search. I also find it inconsistent - for a while my procedure to find PuTTY was just to go Start --> type PuTTY into the search bar but now it doesn't find it and I haven't touched the settings.
Another thing that sucks about the search is it rearranges the list of results as it generates them. So this means that if I search for something and click on a hit, quite often the item I was intending to click on has moved and suddenly I've opened something completely different...
Regardless of memory usage, it's slower than XP. Games are slower (see Tom's Hardware), CAD/CAM apps are slower (same again)...
A great deal of Windows software doesn't work on it yet. PGP has just reached beta, iTunes is having trouble, I can't get Cygwin to work properly, VMWare server doesn't have a released version that allows it to work as a host OS. That's most of the programs I run!
UAC is broken. It slows down your system, bothers you far too often. If you've seen the Mac advert slagging off Vista security - well, it really is that bad.
Games are slower
It's DRM crippled to the extreme
Aero doesn't run smoothly on mid-range Quadro cards...
That stupid Windows-Tab animation keeps getting shown in the media when they talk about Vista's innovative new features - sorry, it's a very slow tool to use; press F9 on OSX to see how it should work (someone's done a hack to make this work in Vista, but it's bloody slow on Quadro).
With Vista's minimum requirement of 512MB of RAM, Vista will deliver performance that's 'sub-XP,'
No shit. My Vista Ultimate system uses nearly 1GB RAM at startup, and I don't have many services running or apps installed, since nothingIhaveworksonVistayet..
At work we decided that having a couple of developers running Vista from day one would the best way to ensure our compatibility. Sounded like a great idea till I drew that particular short straw...
If every manager had to pay an hour of overtime for every question he asked by blackberry, text, or cell, after office hours, there would be no problem! Most would figure out real quick what is really important and what can wait until tomarrow. I don't care if the answer takes 10 seconds, they have to pay an hour.
I had a 1-hour minimum charge policy while at University. If my part-time employer called or emailed me about anything I'd bill for one hour. Any calls/emails during that hour were then included but usually it'd be an hour's pay for a few mins on the phone; a fair compensation for the interruption. This worked pretty well - less dumb questions and more cash for beer:D
>I thought the fibre went as far as the green box on the street and from then it was copper to your house?
That's correct. It's fibre to the green boxes on the street, then copper to your house. NTL customers don't get fibre boxes attached to their walls:( - Or HD for that matter.
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...Chuck Norris is afraid of Google!
No, whats really embarrassing is mis-spelling that very word in the title of a Slashdot article
As for Xeon workstations, last I checked Dell's been selling them ever since they could.
Yes but I was talking about the 3GHz C2Q. AFAIK Apple was there first with that one. It's not necessarily of huge significance in itself, but my point was that "PCs are definitely the place to go if you want the latest technology" is at best a throwaway comment.
PCs are definitely the place to go if you want the latest technology. PCs were privileged to the first Intel Core and Core 2 Duo CPU
Well that's debatable. Apple recently launched the first 3GHz dual Core 2 Quadro Xeon based computer to my knowledge by shoving these bleeding-edge chips into the Mac Pro. Also they do invent (individually and collbaoratively) useful technology, like FireWire. Sometimes you do get things first with Apple.
Bah, when did I turn into such a Mac fanboy?
I had a MIMO Netgear wireless card and router once. They claimed it doubled the bandwidth and range of your WLAN on the same principle. I thought using two signals was kind of cheating, but it worked.
Here's one of the routers.
The Geek quotes retail list, for the ultimate boxed set, in whatever currency makes the numbers look most dramatic
Yep. The UK is usually a good bet for that. Maplin sells Ultimate full version at RRP - £370 ($740) and Amazon has it for £310 ($620). These are typical prices here.
I am you insensitive clod!
That's why it was so funny!
Glad to see you can take a joke in good humour :)
Are you really trying to argue that NT provides some useful sort of compatibility for Unix apps? Citing the Wikipedia as a source does not do much to create credibility for your conjecture.
And citing roughlydrafted is better? Sorry, couldn't resist.
I dont see how you extrapolaite the upgrade numbers are down from new computer sales. Unless you are just guessing that lack of faith equals lack of upgrades.
I'm saying that it's easier to get consumers to passively accept a new default OS for new computer sales than it is to convince them to actively go out and buy an upgrade for their existing PC, and if they're struggling to do the former then this doesn't look good for upgrade sales.
Well, not directly when you're talking about new machines. But the markets may lose confidence in Microsoft if we don't start seeing returns on their massive six-year project to update their core product.
The fact that customers are pleading with PC suppliers to provide an XP option also hints at the lack of Vista upgrade sales for existing PCs.
TFA reviews the My Book Pro, but they also have a USB-only My Book "Essential" (read: Cheaper!) version; anyone tried those?
Yep - I have a My Book Pro 500GB as per article and a My Book Essential Edition 400GB. They also do a Premium drive which sits between the two - it has USB2.0 and FireWire 400 but not the 800. I use my drives on a MacBook Pro and am happy with both. Setup is plug in and go and I don't use any of the included software. I bought the Pro version for the FireWire 800 alone; the status rings you get on the Pro and Premium drives aren't particularly useful - they don't show anything you can't find in an instant on-screen. Basically buy a Pro if you want Firewire 800, a Premium if you want Firewire 400 or the Essential if you're happy with USB2.0.
As a fully-fledged passport-holding UK citizen, I would like to say that I wholeheartedly agree with my government's policy on surveillance; privacy is not a right - it's a nuisance. I also agree with all curent and future policies of this government and will certainly be voting Labour come the next general election.
Sorry that's absolutely ridiculous. Text messaging by voice etc - NO! Just drive the rear wheels and add airbags. Done.
Absolutely. I have an MSDN subscription and due to being allowed a limited number of activations for testing purposes, they (as in Microsoft MSDN) actually recommend that if you don't intend on keeping an installation for long, don't activate as it'll burn through your quota. The trouble with this, and I'm including XP here too, is that Windows Update these days doesn't let you install patches without activation.
But if you buy a new computer, Vista is what you are going to get because Microsoft wants it that way.
I absolutely agree, but what's interesting is how easy it still is to get a laptop with XP and in fact many are XP in the default configuration despite Vista being available to business customers since end November and vendors having had quite some time to prepare for the public release. IIRC, almost as soon as XP came out, Windows 2000 machines were pretty much 'special order' or end of line only. I bought an XP ThinkPad last week and it was surprising how many current laptop models I could choose from despite my XP Pro requirement.
Obviously the built-in search is the biggest win. If you don't mention this in your pros, no wonder you don't like Vista
Vista search is an improvement to that in XP but it still sucks. Sorry to refer to OSX again, but Spotlight shows how to do search. I also find it inconsistent - for a while my procedure to find PuTTY was just to go Start --> type PuTTY into the search bar but now it doesn't find it and I haven't touched the settings.
Another thing that sucks about the search is it rearranges the list of results as it generates them. So this means that if I search for something and click on a hit, quite often the item I was intending to click on has moved and suddenly I've opened something completely different...
Pros:
- Scheduled defrags without third party software
- Aero interface looks less dated
Cons:Um.. yeah, indexing. RTFS, I suppose :D
No shit. My Vista Ultimate system uses nearly 1GB RAM at startup, and I don't have many services running or apps installed, since nothing I have works on Vista yet..
At work we decided that having a couple of developers running Vista from day one would the best way to ensure our compatibility. Sounded like a great idea till I drew that particular short straw...
If every manager had to pay an hour of overtime for every question he asked by blackberry, text, or cell, after office hours, there would be no problem! Most would figure out real quick what is really important and what can wait until tomarrow. I don't care if the answer takes 10 seconds, they have to pay an hour. I had a 1-hour minimum charge policy while at University. If my part-time employer called or emailed me about anything I'd bill for one hour. Any calls/emails during that hour were then included but usually it'd be an hour's pay for a few mins on the phone; a fair compensation for the interruption. This worked pretty well - less dumb questions and more cash for beer :D
"Unless youre a system administrator, programmer, or uber-geek, this is probably the only reference source you'll need to learn Microsofts Vista."
So... it's probably the only reference source you'll need unless you read Slashdot. Good story!>I know this is slashdot, but maybe I wanted to RTFA?
You must be new here...
wtf?
That's correct. It's fibre to the green boxes on the street, then copper to your house. NTL customers don't get fibre boxes attached to their walls :( - Or HD for that matter.
Er, looks like JeffK has improved his English skills, but why is he posting on Slashdot?