looks like your interesting mod was deleted, or maybe I'm just not that familiar with the mod system and dont know why the posts no longer show an 'interesting' modifier
Whats with the mod abuse of all our replies being labeled offtopic? I wasnt the one who said dupe, I just responded to the guy who did. Guess I can watch my karma burn.
Hey, it took them 9 days. I think they are getting better. Much better than that dupe of a story still on the front page. Plus this was right before christmas, editors probably werent paying full attention.
Seriously, slashdot is so reactionary. We get this interesting article on ancient humans and it's turned into a whole long uber-sarcastic anti-religious masturbation fest.
Whats the big deal? Perhaps you missed the part where this article is saying how bad America is (even though a few months ago people were saying how bad America is for not giving up control of the internet).
Add to this the fact that there is a republican in the Whitehouse, and that republican's name is Bush, and you get stories like this, or the one on the NSA hiding those supersecret spy tracking files...errr, cookies, on people computers.
Its been a slow news week. A slow deranged news week.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt we have like 10 articles a few months ago about the UN and EU mad at the US for controlling the internet, and wanted more international involvment? Now we have an article thats mad at the US for giving up control of the internet to other nations?! WTF?
I have to believe you're 100% right. BDS is blinding even all these highly technical people. They know how harmless and easy to avoid cookies are, they know how every website uses them, they probably can sympathize with forgetting to check a setting that is normally not checked. But they also hate republicans and hate Bush and are willing to make themselves look ridiculous and idiotic to score a hit against him.
Actually though, I have to give it to many slashdotters. The majority agreed that this was a mountain out of a molehill, its just this somewhat minority calling for people to get thrown in jail for this that really gets me.
you said: Planting a 30 year cookie isn't an oops.
Ever check your own cookies sometimes? hmm, I have a 15 year cookie from ESPN, a 17 year one from MSN, ooh, a 33 year cookie from slashdot affiliate freshmeat.net, another 33 year one from google, and yet another 33 year cookie from socialist magazine, The Nation. Shall we expect jail time for all these webmasters too?
NSA people are supposed to be top-notch, not some bunch of yahoos hanging out in the IT shop of Dunkin' Donuts.
So you think the top trained NSA agents are wasting their time making websites and doing tech support? Its their website, I doubt they spent much time on it or use it much, they have better things to do than waste time with their public website. It doesnt really seem like you have a grasp on how company IT depts work.
No, we're talking about a cookie. A device used by almost every website in existence. We're talking about some guy running the NSA website not being aware that a memo from the White House's Office of Management and Budget made a guideline (not a law) to not use a universally acceptable website statistical tracking device. I wouldnt even attribute this to stupidity. Just forgot about some silly guideline. Anyone making a big deal out of this is doing so out of total computer illiteracy or being intellectually dishonest as to their true motive for their outrage.
law? They were guidelines in a memo. show me the bill passed by congress that says "The NSA cant use cookies with its website". No, I think the GP had it right. This is a total non-story of some webmaster at the NSA who aparently wasnt aware that using common webtools was against their guidelines.
I agree with the barriers to intelligence needs to be elemenated. And can someone explain how roving wiretaps are controversial?(as stated in the article summary?) When you can buy throwaway cellphones getting a search warrent for each number is nearly impossible. It made sense back when everyone just had one telephone, but the law needs to be updated for the 21st century. Clinton tried very hard to get roving wiretaps and I would hate to see the law not updated to keep them.
I support your idea. However, how solidly would it apply this this particular case? This was a steal root kit that no spyware or antivirus scanner found. The guy that broke this story only did it because he knows windows internals better than almost anyone outside of Microsoft. Would it be logical to expect Walmart, or Amazon for examples to be able to find this before selling it to the public? I mean, its been over a month since the story broke and we're still finding out new stuff even today.
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the phantom was a cool looking case mod though. you gotta give them that.
looks like your interesting mod was deleted, or maybe I'm just not that familiar with the mod system and dont know why the posts no longer show an 'interesting' modifier
Whats with the mod abuse of all our replies being labeled offtopic? I wasnt the one who said dupe, I just responded to the guy who did. Guess I can watch my karma burn.
Just be glad we dont have any "Thats no moon..." comment dupes.
Hey, it took them 9 days. I think they are getting better. Much better than that dupe of a story still on the front page. Plus this was right before christmas, editors probably werent paying full attention.
sounds like some slashdot posters i know
Sweet, I'm off to find the dragonballs.
Seriously, slashdot is so reactionary. We get this interesting article on ancient humans and it's turned into a whole long uber-sarcastic anti-religious masturbation fest.
Whats the big deal? Perhaps you missed the part where this article is saying how bad America is (even though a few months ago people were saying how bad America is for not giving up control of the internet).
Add to this the fact that there is a republican in the Whitehouse, and that republican's name is Bush, and you get stories like this, or the one on the NSA hiding those supersecret spy tracking files...errr, cookies, on people computers.
Its been a slow news week. A slow deranged news week.
I think I've seen that movie before.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt we have like 10 articles a few months ago about the UN and EU mad at the US for controlling the internet, and wanted more international involvment? Now we have an article thats mad at the US for giving up control of the internet to other nations?! WTF?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess.
I have to believe you're 100% right. BDS is blinding even all these highly technical people. They know how harmless and easy to avoid cookies are, they know how every website uses them, they probably can sympathize with forgetting to check a setting that is normally not checked. But they also hate republicans and hate Bush and are willing to make themselves look ridiculous and idiotic to score a hit against him.
Actually though, I have to give it to many slashdotters. The majority agreed that this was a mountain out of a molehill, its just this somewhat minority calling for people to get thrown in jail for this that really gets me.
you said: Planting a 30 year cookie isn't an oops.
Ever check your own cookies sometimes? hmm, I have a 15 year cookie from ESPN, a 17 year one from MSN, ooh, a 33 year cookie from slashdot affiliate freshmeat.net, another 33 year one from google, and yet another 33 year cookie from socialist magazine, The Nation. Shall we expect jail time for all these webmasters too?
Only if you dont pick it up within 5 seconds.
consequences more severe? This would be akin to throwing jaywalkers in jail.
NSA people are supposed to be top-notch, not some bunch of yahoos hanging out in the IT shop of Dunkin' Donuts.
So you think the top trained NSA agents are wasting their time making websites and doing tech support? Its their website, I doubt they spent much time on it or use it much, they have better things to do than waste time with their public website. It doesnt really seem like you have a grasp on how company IT depts work.
No, we're talking about a cookie. A device used by almost every website in existence. We're talking about some guy running the NSA website not being aware that a memo from the White House's Office of Management and Budget made a guideline (not a law) to not use a universally acceptable website statistical tracking device. I wouldnt even attribute this to stupidity. Just forgot about some silly guideline. Anyone making a big deal out of this is doing so out of total computer illiteracy or being intellectually dishonest as to their true motive for their outrage.
Worst slashdot story ever...till the dupe.
law? They were guidelines in a memo. show me the bill passed by congress that says "The NSA cant use cookies with its website". No, I think the GP had it right. This is a total non-story of some webmaster at the NSA who aparently wasnt aware that using common webtools was against their guidelines.
..cloning on the list!? =(
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The best argument I've read for both Intelligent Design and Evolution are from Scott Adams the writer of Dilbert.
I agree with the barriers to intelligence needs to be elemenated. And can someone explain how roving wiretaps are controversial?(as stated in the article summary?) When you can buy throwaway cellphones getting a search warrent for each number is nearly impossible. It made sense back when everyone just had one telephone, but the law needs to be updated for the 21st century. Clinton tried very hard to get roving wiretaps and I would hate to see the law not updated to keep them.
You decry the GP from linking to a professional newspaper, equating it with indymedia, and then you link to Kos in another reply?
Excuse me, can you be a little less trollish and stop screaming at people and calling them liars?
I support your idea. However, how solidly would it apply this this particular case? This was a steal root kit that no spyware or antivirus scanner found. The guy that broke this story only did it because he knows windows internals better than almost anyone outside of Microsoft. Would it be logical to expect Walmart, or Amazon for examples to be able to find this before selling it to the public? I mean, its been over a month since the story broke and we're still finding out new stuff even today.