There are plenty of bad things happening, no one has said there arent. What the parent poster was pointing out is that there are many more good thing happening and it all goes virtually unreported. You may blame it on sensationalism, the parent may blame it on bias, but either way, we as the American public, as the news agencies' consumers, are not being given the full and accurate picture of what happens in Iraq. If you want good news, often you have to go to the Soldiers , or the iraqis themselves.
You illustrate pretty good reason why "a progressive politician shouldn't reach out to one of few sites that gets a million-plus hits per day from his constituency" because its far lefty people like kos who are not on america's side, but on their own. A person for who politics is so personal that he has turned it into an all out war with no ability to have sympathy or understanding for those Americans who Kos deludes himself into believing are not far enough left for him. People like Kos and those who ascribe to his views are dividing this nation with their blind partisan rage and refusal to look at the situation objectively.
I just think its interesting how during the campaign Kerry (and many others) delinked from Kos after Kos said "Screw 'em" to the contractors killed in Falluja. Now Kerry is posting from Kos? Oh well, Kerry really doesnt matter anymore. Now if Hillary Clinton or Mark Warner did this, then it would be news. But I suspect they have a better survival instinct.
theres still people who believe we didnt land on the moon, and that the illuminati control the world. In essence there will always be a small minorty of people who will believe anything, no matter how stupid or what the evidence.
who cares about altruism? Google has done something that pleased me, and they have done if for reasons that I have no problem with, therefore GO GOOGLE. Altruism sucks.
the pentagon (or CIA or Air Force, its hard to do good research when your search terms are psychic and government) also put funding into programs and studies on psychics.
More recently, they are putting funding forth for that Warp Drive test.
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which is why I think this story is actually good for bush. The public is seeing that he is actively trying to protect them from terrorists. Now if he would only get serious about illegal immigration...
I dont know about you, but I have a hard time believe a US senator can be "silenced" and rendered powerless. Especially after watching the Alito confirmation hearding do I have a hard time believing a Senator can be silenced.
As far as the govt pursuing the leak, I see that as precedent set by the Plame leak investigation. This leak by far endangers more americans than the Plame leak even might have endangered (I dont see the Plame leak as putting anyone at risk really, but either way). But we have here the same situation only more serious, and people leaking top secret govt operations well, dont really need to be working for the NSA or CIA or govt anymore right?
well he did tell the intelligence committee what he was doing, and they knew about it the whole time. But, yeah, getting congress to pass a law, one broadly worded so as to not tip off anyone that was being spyed on would have been the way to go.
however, the president and his legal advisors saw justification in the Authorization for Use of Military Force. That it gave him approval from congress ahead of time. This view can be argued and its unclear that he's not correct. So I think we can now look on the AUMF and see how stupid it was for congress to pass such a thing that would give the President(any president) these wartime powers for the duration of a generational conflict. A review and reauthorization every 2 years or so would make much more sense here.
What I see this (big view of everything) as, is congress once again not wanting to take responsiblity for their roll in this war, and simply wanting to give the president power and then criticize from the sidelines.
Let's *ASSUME* that the NSA *records* every digital transmission from Afghanistan to the US that they can get ahold of. Decrypting and translating take time, so initially they simply maintain a huge vault of raw intercepts. Let's imagine that in June, a telephone of no apparent interest in Kabul dials a phone number of no apparent interest in Manhattan.
That phone in Manhattan is then used to dial a number in Washington DC; the call is also recorded but not decrypted.
A month goes by. Then, come July, Osama himself calls the formerly-uninteresting phone in Kabul. Wow! The NSA is interested now, you betcha!
So, some questions for spies and lawyers:
(a) Is it now worth the computer time to decrypt and translate the June calls from Kabul to Manhattan?
Easy - of course it is, and I think there is broad agreement that, since one leg originated overseas and the interception occurred overseas (broadly defined, perhaps, to include the border), FISA warrants are not necessary.
(b) Will spychasers want to decrypt the Manhattan-Washington DC phone call recorded in June?
I promise, the questions will get more difficult - as to decrypting the call to Washington, of course they will want to.
(c) Can the NSA invoke the 72 hour rule and get a retrospective warrant for that call?
I don't know, but I do know that a lot more than 72 hours have passed since the recording was made. Can the NSA argue that "interception" includes decryption? Would that fly? I don't know (but I would guess not).
So, what is a President to do?
It may be that our data storage capability simply does not mesh well with FISA. Let's go back to 1801(f) for the definition of surveillance:
"Electronic surveillance" means-- (1) the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire or radio communication...
Emphasis added. One might argue that, until the call has been decrypted and evaluated, the "contents" have not been captured - all that has been stored are digital ones and zeros. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, did it make a sound?
Consequently, the act of "intercepting" and storing the call in digital form was legal (one might argue). And decrypting it later? Well, a probable cause argument is a lot easier if the connection to Osama can be shown."
Me talking now. Basically, it seems that once again, the technology has outpaced the letter of the law. We are seeing this happen everywhere nowadays, like in roving wiretaps (which make so much sense I dont know why people say they are controversial).
How much did Farscape cost to make? I've heard numbers around $2mil for an ep of Firefly. I think part of it comes from Serenity since they actually build the whole thing out
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Here come the bash.org quotes
is this new? I've had AIM on my phone since I got it in august. I've seen others with yahoo.
duh, its because worm fits better with the imagery of the name "Kama Sutra".
pigeons equipped with cellphones and GPS
I hope they weigh less than a coconut.
Im suggesting the opposite.
There are plenty of bad things happening, no one has said there arent. What the parent poster was pointing out is that there are many more good thing happening and it all goes virtually unreported. You may blame it on sensationalism, the parent may blame it on bias, but either way, we as the American public, as the news agencies' consumers, are not being given the full and accurate picture of what happens in Iraq. If you want good news, often you have to go to the Soldiers , or the iraqis themselves.
Like the 270 foreign al qaeda members just captured there?
Here's some comparison of google.com image search results, and google.cn
You illustrate pretty good reason why "a progressive politician shouldn't reach out to one of few sites that gets a million-plus hits per day from his constituency" because its far lefty people like kos who are not on america's side, but on their own. A person for who politics is so personal that he has turned it into an all out war with no ability to have sympathy or understanding for those Americans who Kos deludes himself into believing are not far enough left for him. People like Kos and those who ascribe to his views are dividing this nation with their blind partisan rage and refusal to look at the situation objectively.
I just think its interesting how during the campaign Kerry (and many others) delinked from Kos after Kos said "Screw 'em" to the contractors killed in Falluja. Now Kerry is posting from Kos? Oh well, Kerry really doesnt matter anymore. Now if Hillary Clinton or Mark Warner did this, then it would be news. But I suspect they have a better survival instinct.
its like he just got unfrozen yesterday
So he's not like garfield...or he is?
theres still people who believe we didnt land on the moon, and that the illuminati control the world. In essence there will always be a small minorty of people who will believe anything, no matter how stupid or what the evidence.
definately
who cares about altruism? Google has done something that pleased me, and they have done if for reasons that I have no problem with, therefore GO GOOGLE. Altruism sucks.
the pentagon (or CIA or Air Force, its hard to do good research when your search terms are psychic and government) also put funding into programs and studies on psychics.
More recently, they are putting funding forth for that Warp Drive test.
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which is why I think this story is actually good for bush. The public is seeing that he is actively trying to protect them from terrorists. Now if he would only get serious about illegal immigration...
I dont know about you, but I have a hard time believe a US senator can be "silenced" and rendered powerless. Especially after watching the Alito confirmation hearding do I have a hard time believing a Senator can be silenced.
As far as the govt pursuing the leak, I see that as precedent set by the Plame leak investigation. This leak by far endangers more americans than the Plame leak even might have endangered (I dont see the Plame leak as putting anyone at risk really, but either way). But we have here the same situation only more serious, and people leaking top secret govt operations well, dont really need to be working for the NSA or CIA or govt anymore right?
well he did tell the intelligence committee what he was doing, and they knew about it the whole time. But, yeah, getting congress to pass a law, one broadly worded so as to not tip off anyone that was being spyed on would have been the way to go.
however, the president and his legal advisors saw justification in the Authorization for Use of Military Force. That it gave him approval from congress ahead of time. This view can be argued and its unclear that he's not correct. So I think we can now look on the AUMF and see how stupid it was for congress to pass such a thing that would give the President(any president) these wartime powers for the duration of a generational conflict. A review and reauthorization every 2 years or so would make much more sense here.
What I see this (big view of everything) as, is congress once again not wanting to take responsiblity for their roll in this war, and simply wanting to give the president power and then criticize from the sidelines.
Shamelessly stolen from JustOneMinute
"Let me propose my own hypothetical:
Let's *ASSUME* that the NSA *records* every digital transmission from Afghanistan to the US that they can get ahold of. Decrypting and translating take time, so initially they simply maintain a huge vault of raw intercepts. Let's imagine that in June, a telephone of no apparent interest in Kabul dials a phone number of no apparent interest in Manhattan.
That phone in Manhattan is then used to dial a number in Washington DC; the call is also recorded but not decrypted.
A month goes by. Then, come July, Osama himself calls the formerly-uninteresting phone in Kabul. Wow! The NSA is interested now, you betcha!
So, some questions for spies and lawyers:
(a) Is it now worth the computer time to decrypt and translate the June calls from Kabul to Manhattan?
Easy - of course it is, and I think there is broad agreement that, since one leg originated overseas and the interception occurred overseas (broadly defined, perhaps, to include the border), FISA warrants are not necessary.
(b) Will spychasers want to decrypt the Manhattan-Washington DC phone call recorded in June?
I promise, the questions will get more difficult - as to decrypting the call to Washington, of course they will want to.
(c) Can the NSA invoke the 72 hour rule and get a retrospective warrant for that call?
I don't know, but I do know that a lot more than 72 hours have passed since the recording was made. Can the NSA argue that "interception" includes decryption? Would that fly? I don't know (but I would guess not).
So, what is a President to do?
It may be that our data storage capability simply does not mesh well with FISA. Let's go back to 1801(f) for the definition of surveillance:
"Electronic surveillance" means-- (1) the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire or radio communication...
Emphasis added. One might argue that, until the call has been decrypted and evaluated, the "contents" have not been captured - all that has been stored are digital ones and zeros. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, did it make a sound?
Consequently, the act of "intercepting" and storing the call in digital form was legal (one might argue). And decrypting it later? Well, a probable cause argument is a lot easier if the connection to Osama can be shown."
Me talking now. Basically, it seems that once again, the technology has outpaced the letter of the law. We are seeing this happen everywhere nowadays, like in roving wiretaps (which make so much sense I dont know why people say they are controversial).
How much did Farscape cost to make? I've heard numbers around $2mil for an ep of Firefly. I think part of it comes from Serenity since they actually build the whole thing out
And while Claudia Black is hot there's no amount of her naked hugging a dance pole that could get me to watch it.
There's defintely an amount of naked hugging a dance pole that could get me to watch it, and I eagerly await the experiments to quantify this amount.