You act as if environment and opportunity have nothing to do with crime rates. You know better. Take your paleoconservative bullshit back to the 1950s where it belongs (it was still wrong, but it wasn't popularly viewed as utter stupidity like it is now).
Well, the idea that I withheld is similar to that, but implementing an offset to the costs to industry.
Basically, (remember, I KNOW this is nearly impossible to implement) my idea is to automate every job possible. Fire every single person you can. Now, here's the key, instead of giving everyone unemployment checks, you make "student" a paying job (and "teacher" a WELL paying job). Yep, start sending those university checks in the other direction. You'd still have a massive tax burden for industry, but they would be getting a pay-off in access to the largest and most talented pool of prospective employees ever imagined. Hell, we could even build more universities than prisons then.
There are flaws, and the changes required are nigh impossible due to our societal momentum, but it would be nice. Not as nice as unicorns that shoot laserbeams out of their horns, but hey, I prefer slightly more realistic fantasies.:-)
I'm not saying that linux insinuates intelligence, I'm saying that looking at your options and choosing based on cost effectiveness is intelligent. The fact that Linux is involved at all has nothing to do with the principles I was talking about except in as much that Linux fits the bill regarding this particular situation. Some organizations have apparently found it to be the best option after considering multiple routes (evidenced by the fact that they had to switch from something else in the first place), so I guess that does fit the description 'intelligent' that I offered in some particular cases. Are you insinuating that Linux CANNOT be an intelligent decision?
I was speaking to the example, but I'm actually talking about a larger trend, extending far outside the IT industry. Companies in every sector are going to have to step back and look at both their processes and prejudices and do some actual honest-to-goodness cost-benefit analysis in order to keep anything resembling a healthy bottom line. The fact that there exists an alternative process/product that may be a good fit for their business that is cheaper and less restrictive than their current setup should be highlighted in any intelligent business strategy, and researched for implementation consideration.
As will FPSs, until consoles truly embrace the keyboard-mouse input combo as a standard control option in games.
After that happens PC gamers will be either retrogeezers (like me, I love the many NES, SMS and 2600 games I have from my childhood) or ultra-high end snobbery like audiophiles are now (not all of you, sit down and put the torches out).
Heh, better get started writing your "standard scripts for the clueless". Actually, now that I've typed it, that DOES seem to be a pretty good idea. Many of the (pardon the expression) turd-burglar problems people I know call me with could be handled pretty easily with proper shell scripts. Not to mention the fact that talking someone truly hopeless through installing software over the phone is WAY easier on almost any major distro... I'm talking about the people who need to be told "a p t hyphen g e t space i n..."
Maybe it's just my experience as an out-of-state family go-to guy regarding their computer problems, but I'd be so much happier to talk them through installing ssh and then just doing what I needed to do.
Please be careful when slinging around derisive terms meant to correct derogatory behavior. Applying them too liberally reduces their meaning to nothing more than a meme.
(People that would otherwise eventually get jobs in still economically productive sectors)
That is simply not an acceptable assumption any longer (and it never really was). Where are these magical jobs coming from?
They DO NOT EXIST. Just because YOU and I have food on our tables and a roof over our heads does not mean that everyone else could have the same, if only they would work hard. The trickle-down economics theory is bust because wealth is often HOARDED instead of spent, and even the money that IS spent spends the majority of its time in a corporate cycle of purchasing massively over-priced business services/equipment in order to sell massively over-priced services/equipment to other businesses. Only at the bottom of the funnel (you know, the narrow part) do you get businesses spending money on consumer products in order to make money from the masses. To clarify what I mean, picture the money that is transfered between large business accounts each day compared to how much is spent on payroll. The vast majority of wealth is circulated (and stays) far above the populous' heads. Successful advances in business tech/procedures almost universally involve tipping that balance even further, paying an employee less money (or fewer employees the same amount of money) for the same amount of wealth earned for the company.
The problem of joblessness cannot be left to the market to fix, there must be active solutions toward that goal. Unfortunately I don't have any really good ideas on how that could be tackled efficiently, the only idea I -DO- have pertaining to the subject would be radical and near impossible to implement so I won't even bother to toss it in to the discussion. Regardless, I feel that it is folly to rely on a wealth-concentrating system to widen wealth distribution (which is what happens when people become employed, even if the term has been branded as Satanic by the media).
Please. Linux wouldn't even be a consideration if it wasn't up to the task at hand. The only effect this is having is to make businesses rethink the whole "proven technology" sales pitch in favor of actual cost-effectiveness studies that haven't been done simply due to institutional momentum.
All this is going to do is bring intelligent IT planning into vogue, and make people take a look at system performance/applicability rather than chasing a corporate logo around.
That was the most eloquent and accurate summary of human history I've ever read. It's a pity that I have no mod points. All you would need to fill it out is an acknowledgment that the rivalry isn't recent, but has come in waves throughout societal history. Even Ancient Greece has evidence of this attitude, but it does seem (from my far-removed POV) that the ancient Grecian society was more tolerant of their thinkers.
This time though, I think the thinkers have too strong a foothold to be completely forced underground as they were during the Dark Ages. Technology, being the hands-on application of the thinking person's skill, is too important to the thugs. At least that's what I hope.
I think I get what you're saying (maybe not), but it seems to me that from your point of view "privacy" is a technical thing, like a cookie or a file on your machine. I disagree. I don't think privacy has anything to do with using specific protocols to receive specifically formatted data. ANY information about me you collect and reference pertains to my privacy, client-server model be damned.
I have the eerie feeling that I just *woooshed* though...
Well, to be totally fair, extend your analogy further. You're talking about walking into a ad-supported restaurant on your own, partaking of the free food the place chooses to offer and then complaining that the ads that are paying for your meal are obnoxious.
If you don't like it, go across the street to the place without ads but WITH a credit card machine and ticket printer.
The obnoxious thing to do though is to stand in the middle of the street and complain about both places, one for charging you and the other for trying to find some way to offer you a free service. Seems pretty dickish to me.
Having someone point out that your joke is in poor taste doesn't mean someone missed the joke. In fact, if you find such simple word-play to be the hint of genius, well, I just hope you aren't a hiring manager anywhere.
I'm not saying that the OP is an idiot, or even average (I have no idea), but the joke WAS a shining example of mediocrity.
In what place do you live that society is one big winner-take-all melee tournament? I guarantee that if something liked that happened where -I- live you won't see people lining up to fight one-on-one battles against marauding warriors. Idiots will come looking for trouble, and they'll find it by the neighborhoodfull. Problems like that become quickly self-correcting.
Besides, if we DID get to the point where everyone gave up their guns, do you honestly think that toughguys are going to be a major force in society? No. You'll of course have a few straggler wanna-be toughguys out there, but they (like always) are little people, and of little consequence.
But to cut to the heart of the matter, we have to realize that we're talking about something that has virtually ZERO chance of occurring in my lifetime. I guess I'll just be armed and unworried instead of unarmed and unworried, huh?
And you'd be put down like the viscous animal you're professing to be.
I'm not worried about power tripping chumps who think they are tough, I've handled the very few dumb enough to think I can be bullied very efficiently, thank you.
I think it's because people are tired of the butthurt whining from the Obama-is-Der-Teufel camp. Besides, maybe the moderation system isn't as broken as you think, maybe it's just that radical pedagogues with unpopular opinion and brass mannerisms get modded down because the majority thinks they are obnoxious and not worth bothering with.
I haven't had a PC that couldn't hook up to a TV in a decade, with the exception of 2 nearly identical business machines I bought at fire sale prices due to a corporate upgrade.
I gave up cable TV 2 months ago now and have a computer hooked up to every TV in my house. Check your video card, most will have either S-Video or DVI (which is directly compatible with HDMI, just get a converter dongle) outputs, it isn't a nightmare to connect PCs to TVs any more.
I think it's because not a single thread goes by where some butthurt Republican doesn't take a dig at Obama. No one thinks it is insightful or interesting, at least no one who isn't already getting the "information" *snort* presented from Rush Limbaugh.
Posts that dig at Obama, while actually presenting some civil discussion as to WHY the person is against one of Obama's positions get modded up to +5 faster than NYCL posts in an RIAA thread.
Read the post you're defending. It offers nothing, and isn't even funny. Not even a little. The only humor I could see being squeezed out of that turd is a smug chuckle from someone who is desperately hoping Obama will fail horribly in turning us toward a better path. If you pay close attention, you can almost hear how nervous that chuckle really is...
Well, I feel about the GPL the same way I feel about firearms... I'll gladly toss mine into the bonfire, as long as mine is the last one left after all others are in the pit. I won't need it then.
That's it, I'm officially declaring that the word "socialist" has jumped the shark and means anything anyone wishes it to. It is to become to English as the word "smurf" is to the Smurfs.
e.g. "I was with Jen last night, at the socialist bar, where that socialist Ken was having his socialist party. So anyways, we get out of there, and she starts socializing me right there in the socialist parking lot!"
That makes just as much sense to me as most of the uses of "socialist/socialism" I've seen lately.
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...otherwise criminal elements...
You act as if environment and opportunity have nothing to do with crime rates. You know better. Take your paleoconservative bullshit back to the 1950s where it belongs (it was still wrong, but it wasn't popularly viewed as utter stupidity like it is now).
Well, the idea that I withheld is similar to that, but implementing an offset to the costs to industry.
Basically, (remember, I KNOW this is nearly impossible to implement) my idea is to automate every job possible. Fire every single person you can. Now, here's the key, instead of giving everyone unemployment checks, you make "student" a paying job (and "teacher" a WELL paying job). Yep, start sending those university checks in the other direction. You'd still have a massive tax burden for industry, but they would be getting a pay-off in access to the largest and most talented pool of prospective employees ever imagined. Hell, we could even build more universities than prisons then.
There are flaws, and the changes required are nigh impossible due to our societal momentum, but it would be nice. Not as nice as unicorns that shoot laserbeams out of their horns, but hey, I prefer slightly more realistic fantasies. :-)
I'm not saying that linux insinuates intelligence, I'm saying that looking at your options and choosing based on cost effectiveness is intelligent. The fact that Linux is involved at all has nothing to do with the principles I was talking about except in as much that Linux fits the bill regarding this particular situation. Some organizations have apparently found it to be the best option after considering multiple routes (evidenced by the fact that they had to switch from something else in the first place), so I guess that does fit the description 'intelligent' that I offered in some particular cases. Are you insinuating that Linux CANNOT be an intelligent decision?
I was speaking to the example, but I'm actually talking about a larger trend, extending far outside the IT industry. Companies in every sector are going to have to step back and look at both their processes and prejudices and do some actual honest-to-goodness cost-benefit analysis in order to keep anything resembling a healthy bottom line. The fact that there exists an alternative process/product that may be a good fit for their business that is cheaper and less restrictive than their current setup should be highlighted in any intelligent business strategy, and researched for implementation consideration.
As will FPSs, until consoles truly embrace the keyboard-mouse input combo as a standard control option in games.
After that happens PC gamers will be either retrogeezers (like me, I love the many NES, SMS and 2600 games I have from my childhood) or ultra-high end snobbery like audiophiles are now (not all of you, sit down and put the torches out).
Heh, better get started writing your "standard scripts for the clueless". Actually, now that I've typed it, that DOES seem to be a pretty good idea. Many of the (pardon the expression) turd-burglar problems people I know call me with could be handled pretty easily with proper shell scripts. Not to mention the fact that talking someone truly hopeless through installing software over the phone is WAY easier on almost any major distro... I'm talking about the people who need to be told "a p t hyphen g e t space i n..."
Maybe it's just my experience as an out-of-state family go-to guy regarding their computer problems, but I'd be so much happier to talk them through installing ssh and then just doing what I needed to do.
Racist? Probably not. Classist? Maybe. Nationalist? Probably.
Please be careful when slinging around derisive terms meant to correct derogatory behavior. Applying them too liberally reduces their meaning to nothing more than a meme.
I was with you until this:
(People that would otherwise eventually get jobs in still economically productive sectors)
That is simply not an acceptable assumption any longer (and it never really was). Where are these magical jobs coming from?
They DO NOT EXIST. Just because YOU and I have food on our tables and a roof over our heads does not mean that everyone else could have the same, if only they would work hard. The trickle-down economics theory is bust because wealth is often HOARDED instead of spent, and even the money that IS spent spends the majority of its time in a corporate cycle of purchasing massively over-priced business services/equipment in order to sell massively over-priced services/equipment to other businesses. Only at the bottom of the funnel (you know, the narrow part) do you get businesses spending money on consumer products in order to make money from the masses. To clarify what I mean, picture the money that is transfered between large business accounts each day compared to how much is spent on payroll. The vast majority of wealth is circulated (and stays) far above the populous' heads. Successful advances in business tech/procedures almost universally involve tipping that balance even further, paying an employee less money (or fewer employees the same amount of money) for the same amount of wealth earned for the company.
The problem of joblessness cannot be left to the market to fix, there must be active solutions toward that goal. Unfortunately I don't have any really good ideas on how that could be tackled efficiently, the only idea I -DO- have pertaining to the subject would be radical and near impossible to implement so I won't even bother to toss it in to the discussion. Regardless, I feel that it is folly to rely on a wealth-concentrating system to widen wealth distribution (which is what happens when people become employed, even if the term has been branded as Satanic by the media).
Solely?
Please. Linux wouldn't even be a consideration if it wasn't up to the task at hand. The only effect this is having is to make businesses rethink the whole "proven technology" sales pitch in favor of actual cost-effectiveness studies that haven't been done simply due to institutional momentum.
All this is going to do is bring intelligent IT planning into vogue, and make people take a look at system performance/applicability rather than chasing a corporate logo around.
That was the most eloquent and accurate summary of human history I've ever read. It's a pity that I have no mod points. All you would need to fill it out is an acknowledgment that the rivalry isn't recent, but has come in waves throughout societal history. Even Ancient Greece has evidence of this attitude, but it does seem (from my far-removed POV) that the ancient Grecian society was more tolerant of their thinkers.
This time though, I think the thinkers have too strong a foothold to be completely forced underground as they were during the Dark Ages. Technology, being the hands-on application of the thinking person's skill, is too important to the thugs. At least that's what I hope.
Ewe are sofa king, we Todd Ed.
(apologies to slashdotters and ATHF, I couldn't resist)
Because everyone likes a good apocolypse fantasy for their favorite worlds, and being NULL terminated is just so damned boring.
I think I get what you're saying (maybe not), but it seems to me that from your point of view "privacy" is a technical thing, like a cookie or a file on your machine. I disagree. I don't think privacy has anything to do with using specific protocols to receive specifically formatted data. ANY information about me you collect and reference pertains to my privacy, client-server model be damned.
I have the eerie feeling that I just *woooshed* though...
Well, to be totally fair, extend your analogy further. You're talking about walking into a ad-supported restaurant on your own, partaking of the free food the place chooses to offer and then complaining that the ads that are paying for your meal are obnoxious.
If you don't like it, go across the street to the place without ads but WITH a credit card machine and ticket printer.
The obnoxious thing to do though is to stand in the middle of the street and complain about both places, one for charging you and the other for trying to find some way to offer you a free service. Seems pretty dickish to me.
Looks like a commie mutant traitor to me.
Having someone point out that your joke is in poor taste doesn't mean someone missed the joke. In fact, if you find such simple word-play to be the hint of genius, well, I just hope you aren't a hiring manager anywhere.
I'm not saying that the OP is an idiot, or even average (I have no idea), but the joke WAS a shining example of mediocrity.
It's a rare "genius" indeed that doesn't comprehend that English isn't the Universal First Language.
Self-proclaimed geniuses that are actually arrogant average folk who are smart only when compared to their dumbass friends are a dime-a-dozen however.
Just something to think about.
In what place do you live that society is one big winner-take-all melee tournament? I guarantee that if something liked that happened where -I- live you won't see people lining up to fight one-on-one battles against marauding warriors. Idiots will come looking for trouble, and they'll find it by the neighborhoodfull. Problems like that become quickly self-correcting.
Besides, if we DID get to the point where everyone gave up their guns, do you honestly think that toughguys are going to be a major force in society? No. You'll of course have a few straggler wanna-be toughguys out there, but they (like always) are little people, and of little consequence.
But to cut to the heart of the matter, we have to realize that we're talking about something that has virtually ZERO chance of occurring in my lifetime. I guess I'll just be armed and unworried instead of unarmed and unworried, huh?
vicious
sorry.
And you'd be put down like the viscous animal you're professing to be.
I'm not worried about power tripping chumps who think they are tough, I've handled the very few dumb enough to think I can be bullied very efficiently, thank you.
I think it's because people are tired of the butthurt whining from the Obama-is-Der-Teufel camp. Besides, maybe the moderation system isn't as broken as you think, maybe it's just that radical pedagogues with unpopular opinion and brass mannerisms get modded down because the majority thinks they are obnoxious and not worth bothering with.
I haven't had a PC that couldn't hook up to a TV in a decade, with the exception of 2 nearly identical business machines I bought at fire sale prices due to a corporate upgrade.
I gave up cable TV 2 months ago now and have a computer hooked up to every TV in my house. Check your video card, most will have either S-Video or DVI (which is directly compatible with HDMI, just get a converter dongle) outputs, it isn't a nightmare to connect PCs to TVs any more.
I think it's because not a single thread goes by where some butthurt Republican doesn't take a dig at Obama. No one thinks it is insightful or interesting, at least no one who isn't already getting the "information" *snort* presented from Rush Limbaugh.
Posts that dig at Obama, while actually presenting some civil discussion as to WHY the person is against one of Obama's positions get modded up to +5 faster than NYCL posts in an RIAA thread.
Read the post you're defending. It offers nothing, and isn't even funny. Not even a little. The only humor I could see being squeezed out of that turd is a smug chuckle from someone who is desperately hoping Obama will fail horribly in turning us toward a better path. If you pay close attention, you can almost hear how nervous that chuckle really is...
Well, I feel about the GPL the same way I feel about firearms... I'll gladly toss mine into the bonfire, as long as mine is the last one left after all others are in the pit. I won't need it then.
"This MILF is paedobear approved..."
That's just damned disturbing.
...socialist enterprises like Microsoft...
That's it, I'm officially declaring that the word "socialist" has jumped the shark and means anything anyone wishes it to. It is to become to English as the word "smurf" is to the Smurfs.
e.g. "I was with Jen last night, at the socialist bar, where that socialist Ken was having his socialist party. So anyways, we get out of there, and she starts socializing me right there in the socialist parking lot!"
That makes just as much sense to me as most of the uses of "socialist/socialism" I've seen lately.
(Apologies to both the Smurfs and Family Guy.)