Get some images from another country of the original American landing site? They have the probe in orbit, as does China. It would finally put to rest (or verify) the conspiracy theories.
"...and I have decided to keep those revelations to myself so that it is not exploited by every script kiddie and wannabe hackers to try."
And you are the only person that will figure that method out, I guess. Hopefully, you are the smartest person alive, and the problem so difficult no one else can possibly figure it out too, and abuse it.
The way we move forward as a race is that we share information, both about what works and helps, and more importantly about what doesn't work or causes harm. If the people affected the most by the flaw that has been discovered do nothing about it, then disclosure is the way. That way everyone else is informed and warned, as they should be.
When it's called a social honeypot, there is some expectation of having a goal of learning and understanding whatever it is you're studying. In this case, the only motive was to humiliate people. There is no redeeming value to what he did, other than perhaps some sociologists noticing it and getting a few thoughts. There is no real data there that can be used for anything, no methodology.
The guy will burn for doing it (and rightly so), since no judge will see any intrinsic value in what was done, does not seem to fall under fair use, and there was an expectation of privacy.
The real point of pinball is to see my name above yours in the high scores list, just like on all of video games. Co-op has it's place, but so does good old fashioned competition.
Oh, and making the ball a slave to your will is very satisfying too.
Or, in keeping with what is in there now, it would be:
"Must act like the previous reference program acted, using natural or integer numbers that are rounded up to 12, except where previously mentioned previous reference program dictates otherwise, in theory or in practice. Unless we decide differently at some future point of our choosing for any reason we want."
Anyone except open source programmers, since the license for ooxml is incompatible with the GPL. As well, the patent situation is another large roadblock for open source (not to mention anyone else). So really, not just anyone can use it.
I'm still trying to decide if you're just a Microsoft fanboy, or an actual shill.
All I can say to rabtech is please tell me your views like this when you come in for an interview with me for a development job, so I can send you on your way quickly.
You're the kind of developer that convinces his bosses that ooxml is the standard they HAVE to use because it is the future and using it will future-proof them. 5 years down the road, after spending tremendous time and money to try to implement it, and long after you've been fired, the enormity of the mistake the cost to fix it will be realized.
Read the spec so you can make an informed comment, and just for kicks read about the abortion of a process that they called ratification of a standard.
Funny, the definition of a Treaty (in this context of the word treaty)is a "contract" between political entities on every source I look at. Perhaps you can explain exactly how it isn't a contract?
You are clearly insane. I encourage you to seek treatment.
Nobody has to have Windows
This is true. But reality looms when you are a consultant/tech that is hired to maintain the Windows environment that already exists at a client site. This isn't about me making a decision for myself, this is about earning a living by maintaining someone's existing setup. I use Linux and Windows at home, and have Linux servers where possible at my client sites. My clients will not overhaul their existing systems just because I say they should, so there is no choice. That being the case, I have to do my best to keep the existing system running, no matter how much I disagree with MS's policies and antics. Basically, I need to eat and have a warm place to sleep.
The answer's simple: if you don't like it then don't go Microsoft.
Sure, that's always the answer, just don't use Microsoft products. I'm as eager as the next guy to ditch the MS crap and install Linux, but in reality it's not always possible. What about us poor smucks that have no choice, and have businesses that that we support who use it and simply will not or cannot change to anything else? Linux doesn't cover all of the programs required for business, not to mention the considerable amount of invested money in the current infrastructure.
Microsoft just needs to be slapped hard by the courts again, and forced to live up to the law like everyone else. At least the Europeans are willing to go after them for some of the crap that they do. It would be nice if the US government did their job and did the same.
And for those comments that note the EULA says MS still owns the software, also note that it says they aren't responsible for any problems the software causes. The only recourse is to test any patches coming down the pipe since it's apparently not their asses on the line, it's the same poor smucks that have to do the support for these businesses. God help that smuck that lets a bad patch come through.
So the right thing is to do nothing and leave the bot nets alone, hoping it will go away? In this day and age, people know that they have to back up, and that a virus could nuke their machine in just the same way as a bot self destructing would cause damage. The people that are infected have obviously either not taken responsibility for their machines, or are oblivious. In either case, it needs to be cleaned up one way or another, and if they won't take responsibility then someone else has to.
I prefer that something like this wouldn't happen and understand the slippery slope/moral implications, but I know enough about my systems and those of my clients that I fear nothing from a move like this. Frankly I'm glad someone is trying to do something.
Sorry, shutting down processes on my computer remotely without permission is harmless? No.
Oh please. Give me one example of a service that is not a bot that this action would shut down. They did not "invade" your machine to remove anything or turn something off. They issued a specific set of removal commands in response to a relatively well known connection protocol used solely by bots. If your machine responded and acted on any of the commands, it was infected, plain and simple. Beneficial? Yes.
I don't think you understood his point. Google wouldn't take over the internet, they would provide a net-neutral alternative. And, given their history, it would be low cost as well.
So, it plays out like this: Major players start degrading service of non-paying services, Google enters the market and starts providing service that people expect, gaining them an immediate large share of the market. After the major players get told that it's too bad, and that Google isn't violating any anti trust laws, they have no choice but to move to a network neutral policy just to compete.
That's the hope at least, if the government isn't willing to look out for it's own citizens.
The only problem with your statement is the "the assmunches pushing up prices for all legitimate customers". The prices were outrageous long before file sharing existed as it does today. If the prices were reasonable, file sharing would not likely be the problem to the record companies that it is today.
No need. By the time North America gets a cam copy out, the Chinese have a cam copy on dvd for 50 cents, and an actual dvd rip for $1.00 in every corner stall throughout Asia. With a choice of sub titles.
I read on the MythTV dev list that it was a pretty much a disaster for last year. The students worked on several things and finished almost nothing. It apparently turned into a situation of wasting the mentors time and the students not having the discipline to do the work from home. The MythTV project didn't want to do that again.
It's too bad, I support the idea of SOC, but maybe it needs closer inspection of actual work done prior to paying them. (currency exchange problems aside)
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Get some images from another country of the original American landing site? They have the probe in orbit, as does China. It would finally put to rest (or verify) the conspiracy theories.
Honestly, how much tentacle rape porn can there be in the world?!?!
There can never be enough.
"...and I have decided to keep those revelations to myself so that it is not exploited by every script kiddie and wannabe hackers to try."
And you are the only person that will figure that method out, I guess. Hopefully, you are the smartest person alive, and the problem so difficult no one else can possibly figure it out too, and abuse it.
The way we move forward as a race is that we share information, both about what works and helps, and more importantly about what doesn't work or causes harm. If the people affected the most by the flaw that has been discovered do nothing about it, then disclosure is the way. That way everyone else is informed and warned, as they should be.
When it's called a social honeypot, there is some expectation of having a goal of learning and understanding whatever it is you're studying. In this case, the only motive was to humiliate people. There is no redeeming value to what he did, other than perhaps some sociologists noticing it and getting a few thoughts. There is no real data there that can be used for anything, no methodology.
The guy will burn for doing it (and rightly so), since no judge will see any intrinsic value in what was done, does not seem to fall under fair use, and there was an expectation of privacy.
This makes me wonder if it would be good for helping in situations like ISP's using Phorm or their ilk.
The real point of pinball is to see my name above yours in the high scores list, just like on all of video games. Co-op has it's place, but so does good old fashioned competition.
Oh, and making the ball a slave to your will is very satisfying too.
Or, in keeping with what is in there now, it would be:
"Must act like the previous reference program acted, using natural or integer numbers that are rounded up to 12, except where previously mentioned previous reference program dictates otherwise, in theory or in practice. Unless we decide differently at some future point of our choosing for any reason we want."
Anyone except open source programmers, since the license for ooxml is incompatible with the GPL. As well, the patent situation is another large roadblock for open source (not to mention anyone else). So really, not just anyone can use it.
I'm still trying to decide if you're just a Microsoft fanboy, or an actual shill.
All I can say to rabtech is please tell me your views like this when you come in for an interview with me for a development job, so I can send you on your way quickly.
You're the kind of developer that convinces his bosses that ooxml is the standard they HAVE to use because it is the future and using it will future-proof them. 5 years down the road, after spending tremendous time and money to try to implement it, and long after you've been fired, the enormity of the mistake the cost to fix it will be realized.
Read the spec so you can make an informed comment, and just for kicks read about the abortion of a process that they called ratification of a standard.
Funny, the definition of a Treaty (in this context of the word treaty)is a "contract" between political entities on every source I look at. Perhaps you can explain exactly how it isn't a contract?
The only reason he was able to push the button to post that comment was that he is an AC and took Chuck 1 extra second to find...
The subject says it all...
Nobody even has to have a computer.
You are clearly insane. I encourage you to seek treatment.
Nobody has to have Windows
This is true. But reality looms when you are a consultant/tech that is hired to maintain the Windows environment that already exists at a client site. This isn't about me making a decision for myself, this is about earning a living by maintaining someone's existing setup. I use Linux and Windows at home, and have Linux servers where possible at my client sites. My clients will not overhaul their existing systems just because I say they should, so there is no choice. That being the case, I have to do my best to keep the existing system running, no matter how much I disagree with MS's policies and antics. Basically, I need to eat and have a warm place to sleep.
The answer's simple: if you don't like it then don't go Microsoft.
Sure, that's always the answer, just don't use Microsoft products. I'm as eager as the next guy to ditch the MS crap and install Linux, but in reality it's not always possible. What about us poor smucks that have no choice, and have businesses that that we support who use it and simply will not or cannot change to anything else? Linux doesn't cover all of the programs required for business, not to mention the considerable amount of invested money in the current infrastructure.
Microsoft just needs to be slapped hard by the courts again, and forced to live up to the law like everyone else. At least the Europeans are willing to go after them for some of the crap that they do. It would be nice if the US government did their job and did the same.
And for those comments that note the EULA says MS still owns the software, also note that it says they aren't responsible for any problems the software causes. The only recourse is to test any patches coming down the pipe since it's apparently not their asses on the line, it's the same poor smucks that have to do the support for these businesses. God help that smuck that lets a bad patch come through.
Since they already have a huge influence on the government through lobbying, they might as well be taxed so we can get something useful from them.
So the right thing is to do nothing and leave the bot nets alone, hoping it will go away? In this day and age, people know that they have to back up, and that a virus could nuke their machine in just the same way as a bot self destructing would cause damage. The people that are infected have obviously either not taken responsibility for their machines, or are oblivious. In either case, it needs to be cleaned up one way or another, and if they won't take responsibility then someone else has to.
I prefer that something like this wouldn't happen and understand the slippery slope/moral implications, but I know enough about my systems and those of my clients that I fear nothing from a move like this. Frankly I'm glad someone is trying to do something.
Oh please. Give me one example of a service that is not a bot that this action would shut down. They did not "invade" your machine to remove anything or turn something off. They issued a specific set of removal commands in response to a relatively well known connection protocol used solely by bots. If your machine responded and acted on any of the commands, it was infected, plain and simple. Beneficial? Yes.
Oh, "Beaver", not "the beaver".
My bad, no question that you're right about that.
Not since Canada started putting RFID spytools in the loonies...
I don't think you understood his point. Google wouldn't take over the internet, they would provide a net-neutral alternative. And, given their history, it would be low cost as well.
So, it plays out like this: Major players start degrading service of non-paying services, Google enters the market and starts providing service that people expect, gaining them an immediate large share of the market. After the major players get told that it's too bad, and that Google isn't violating any anti trust laws, they have no choice but to move to a network neutral policy just to compete.
That's the hope at least, if the government isn't willing to look out for it's own citizens.
The only problem with your statement is the "the assmunches pushing up prices for all legitimate customers". The prices were outrageous long before file sharing existed as it does today. If the prices were reasonable, file sharing would not likely be the problem to the record companies that it is today.
Problem being, they have to do these experiments to get us off of the planet in the first place...
Or has there been a distinct drop in spam since this happened? :)
No need. By the time North America gets a cam copy out, the Chinese have a cam copy on dvd for 50 cents, and an actual dvd rip for $1.00 in every corner stall throughout Asia. With a choice of sub titles.
I read on the MythTV dev list that it was a pretty much a disaster for last year. The students worked on several things and finished almost nothing. It apparently turned into a situation of wasting the mentors time and the students not having the discipline to do the work from home. The MythTV project didn't want to do that again.
It's too bad, I support the idea of SOC, but maybe it needs closer inspection of actual work done prior to paying them. (currency exchange problems aside)