Gargoyles - ok, this might be a more obscure reference. But the gargoyles from Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash have definately helped define the wearable computer look.
You're analogy doesnt work out... its written in law that stealing a car is unlawful. These computers were under his jurisdiction, and unless it was explicitly stated that he could not download distributed clients, then he has committed no wrong.
Truthfully I dont think this is a big deal, this would fall through the courts fairly easily. I refer you to the argument above. Thats kind of a fundemental property of US law, (taking from what we hated about british law), that if its not written down, its not illegal. Thats why we cant go around and make up a law like "Its illegal to be Jon Katz" and expect it to take effect.
He does not say "get rid of the OS". Obviously you need an OS for the reasins you listed (device acess, task management, etc). What Rankin is stating is that OS's have become an application in and of themselves, and that is the problem. That the OS is an application is kind of irrefutable; whether it be Linux, Windows, MacOS, or OS/2, the OS has a great deal of functionality to it besides just acting as a kernel. We need kernels. They are good. But do we need the hundreds of programs that come with Linux? Sure its infintely customizable (something we tout), but is that a good thing? I personally enjoy it. Yet it does get in the way of running applications, and I do not think anyone here can argue against that. Having to "deal" with an OS is exactly what Rankin is saying is bad; the OS should be transparent, it should merely exist and work, but it should not be an omnipresent object we have to work around. I agree with him that this is the future of personal computing (although obviously server/high end will need functionality).
On the point of consisten user-friendly interface, think about it this way. WindowMaker provides a consisten user friendly interface, but not much else. I tend to like that. Enlightenment / Gnome / KDE on the other hand, well thats kind of getting excessively "friendly" for me. Rankin is advocating for a more WindowMaker (but to a much greater extreme) style GUI; simple, elegant, and thats all. No fancy pants stuff, for it would get in the way. Like Palm OS. Not like Windows 2000. Ever seen how much extra crap is bundled in there? it's ridiculous.
| ian shaughnessy | conraduno at binxdsign dot com
Shogo had some pretty hilarious fake wall ads, poking fun at Coke, Evangelion, stuff like that. I think I saw a couple of adds with a NURV (no not antitrust making fun on NERV) logo on it on billboards in that game. All in all pretty amusing, but it did definately incite me to go and watch some eva tapes after I had played the game. I'd say this is definately a brilliant idea;-)
sounds kind of like divx to me. Not the codec, the dvd format idea. Considering that failed quite miserably (and it was being pushed by some big industry players), I'm sure this will eventually go as well. Like with the PIII's uid per chip and all of these other "anti piracy" / whatever features, this one will be introduced, labeled extreme, and then probably dropped. Even MS cant get away with something like this.
i wonder if the movie producers have ever seen Evangelion. I wonder if this is intentional, or if N?RV is just an easy "world power" acronym to come up with;-)
Are you referring to coding style? or is that an actual win api call? Because hungarian style isn't necessarily windows.. I do all my unix c in hungarian notation which looks very windowsish because.. well it looks better. As hard as unix programmers hate to admit it, hungarian notation (i.e. windows style programming) is far easier to read than unix code. Especially in languages like c++ where variables can be declared anywhere and its a bitch to try and find its declaration so you can know what type it is. >1000 line programs and I'll strongly advocate for an "M$" coding style.
eheh I'm torn tho, because while W. Richard Stevens is my hero, I can't stand to read his code;-)
Clock speed aint all that counts however. Look at a G4 / Xeon / Alpha / other chips like that. Clock for Clock they outperform 16 and 32 bit platforms. I seem to recall reading that a G4 400 was roughly as powerful as a pentium III 650 or so.
PS2s run at around 300 mhz, and they have 32 megs of ram. Not too impressive specs by look alone. However, what they are is basically a dedicated graphics machine, akin to a SGI cobalt or something along those lines, and as we all know from looking at our video cards clock speeds dont mean much. My voodoo 3 is clocked at 167, my GeForce II at I think 175 (could be wrong, but not by much). Now which would you rather play QuakeIII on?;-) The PS2 is insanely powerful as a gpu. So much so that I seem to recall reading that one of the sony PS2 cubes (like 32 of them clustered) was able to render Toy Story in real time.
Toy Story took nearly 2 years to render when they first did it.
Soooo... yes, the 1GHz athlon is "faster" than a PS2.. but that doesnt mean that it can render a 3d scene, a weather pattern, or an atomic blast projection any faster. Though I doubt the iraqi's really need PS2's for that, I'm sure enough of them could easily whip out some nice Cray level projections. (I have a friend in the Gov't, and yes, he renders atomic blast projections on Crays).
not that that means much, cause like I said, I dont think PS2 is _that_ good. Hell, if they where that interested, they could probably smuggle in some G4's. Those are illegal there cause they're "too powerful" as well;-)
I dont know much about a Linux box as an AV server, but there are two Linux email gateway AV solutions. Trend Micro, the markey leader, has Interscan VirusWall, which more or less turns your box into an email relay filtering out virii. myCIO (of Rumor fame) is also soon releasing a very similar product as Trend's, so right now I guess there is only one solution but I believe myCIO is due to release their product December.
I dont know much about multicasting, but I seem to recall that its only real use is on the MBONE, (wasnt there an ask slashdot about that a while ago), and MBONE doesnt really work to well for distruted file sharing (the general consencus of the ask slashdot about that). Like i said, im not sure, i know next to nothin on multicasting, but i think its completely infeasable for something like this. For example, say client a gets the packet and b gets a bad packet, how does b say "retransmit" when a doesnt need it? unless the network has 0.00% packet collision you would have serious issues.
actually I think it would follow a more of a keyring model.. the clients have a copy of the pub key and as long as the signature is signed with the corrosponding priv key youre good to go. if, for whatever reason, the priv key changes, its a simple matter of a revocation certificate.
that doesnt happen. the av software would remove the virus before it had a chance to do anything (like remove itself from the scan file). that's part of the basics of av software, you have a fingerprint, and you can detect a virus before it can do anything. else av software would be pretty useless wouldnt it? "norton has found the stoner virus, but only after it made your computer completely useless";)
thats the point. there _is_ a central source for a key and signature, and everything is verified based on the root key. I assume you understand digital signatures and certificates, so you would understand certficiate signing and hash's of an executable to prove it's validity.
anyone here heard of digital signatures? come on guys.. think about it for a minute. this is no less risky than downloading an update off a webserver, infact probably more secure because you can verify the sig and make sure it can from a non-web accessable (and therefore non-externally-crackable) source (such as a vault). cracked webservers are a dime a dozen.. try messing with a DSA sig. basic encryption here folks.
Saucer wisdom by Rudy Rucker, is a nifty little book about the future as seen through an alien abductee... trust me, it makes sense. The author discusses exactly this type of substance in-depth. I betcha the U of T guys are just pulling off of Rucker's style!
Though even if the WTO imposed tariffs, tariffs are based on a percent of the price of the incoming product. Linux is free. Which would mean a much larger potential Linux base for developing countries unwilling to pay the tariffs and therefore adopting an already tariff and otherwise cost free OS. Yay.
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Gargoyles - ok, this might be a more obscure reference. But the gargoyles from Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash have definately helped define the wearable computer look.
You're analogy doesnt work out... its written in law that stealing a car is unlawful. These computers were under his jurisdiction, and unless it was explicitly stated that he could not download distributed clients, then he has committed no wrong.
Truthfully I dont think this is a big deal, this would fall through the courts fairly easily. I refer you to the argument above. Thats kind of a fundemental property of US law, (taking from what we hated about british law), that if its not written down, its not illegal. Thats why we cant go around and make up a law like "Its illegal to be Jon Katz" and expect it to take effect.
I think you are missing what Rankin is saying..
He does not say "get rid of the OS". Obviously you need an OS for the reasins you listed (device acess, task management, etc). What Rankin is stating is that OS's have become an application in and of themselves, and that is the problem. That the OS is an application is kind of irrefutable; whether it be Linux, Windows, MacOS, or OS/2, the OS has a great deal of functionality to it besides just acting as a kernel. We need kernels. They are good. But do we need the hundreds of programs that come with Linux? Sure its infintely customizable (something we tout), but is that a good thing? I personally enjoy it. Yet it does get in the way of running applications, and I do not think anyone here can argue against that. Having to "deal" with an OS is exactly what Rankin is saying is bad; the OS should be transparent, it should merely exist and work, but it should not be an omnipresent object we have to work around. I agree with him that this is the future of personal computing (although obviously server/high end will need functionality).
On the point of consisten user-friendly interface, think about it this way. WindowMaker provides a consisten user friendly interface, but not much else. I tend to like that. Enlightenment / Gnome / KDE on the other hand, well thats kind of getting excessively "friendly" for me. Rankin is advocating for a more WindowMaker (but to a much greater extreme) style GUI; simple, elegant, and thats all. No fancy pants stuff, for it would get in the way. Like Palm OS. Not like Windows 2000. Ever seen how much extra crap is bundled in there? it's ridiculous. | ian shaughnessy | conraduno at binxdsign dot com
pathetic eh?
Shogo had some pretty hilarious fake wall ads, poking fun at Coke, Evangelion, stuff like that. I think I saw a couple of adds with a NURV (no not antitrust making fun on NERV) logo on it on billboards in that game. All in all pretty amusing, but it did definately incite me to go and watch some eva tapes after I had played the game. I'd say this is definately a brilliant idea ;-)
sounds kind of like divx to me. Not the codec, the dvd format idea. Considering that failed quite miserably (and it was being pushed by some big industry players), I'm sure this will eventually go as well. Like with the PIII's uid per chip and all of these other "anti piracy" / whatever features, this one will be introduced, labeled extreme, and then probably dropped. Even MS cant get away with something like this.
what was his name? murray or something?
hilarious.
i wonder if the movie producers have ever seen Evangelion. I wonder if this is intentional, or if N?RV is just an easy "world power" acronym to come up with ;-)
Are you referring to coding style? or is that an actual win api call? Because hungarian style isn't necessarily windows.. I do all my unix c in hungarian notation which looks very windowsish because.. well it looks better. As hard as unix programmers hate to admit it, hungarian notation (i.e. windows style programming) is far easier to read than unix code. Especially in languages like c++ where variables can be declared anywhere and its a bitch to try and find its declaration so you can know what type it is. >1000 line programs and I'll strongly advocate for an "M$" coding style.
;-)
eheh I'm torn tho, because while W. Richard Stevens is my hero, I can't stand to read his code
Clock speed aint all that counts however. Look at a G4 / Xeon / Alpha / other chips like that. Clock for Clock they outperform 16 and 32 bit platforms. I seem to recall reading that a G4 400 was roughly as powerful as a pentium III 650 or so. PS2s run at around 300 mhz, and they have 32 megs of ram. Not too impressive specs by look alone. However, what they are is basically a dedicated graphics machine, akin to a SGI cobalt or something along those lines, and as we all know from looking at our video cards clock speeds dont mean much. My voodoo 3 is clocked at 167, my GeForce II at I think 175 (could be wrong, but not by much). Now which would you rather play QuakeIII on? ;-) The PS2 is insanely powerful as a gpu. So much so that I seem to recall reading that one of the sony PS2 cubes (like 32 of them clustered) was able to render Toy Story in real time.
Toy Story took nearly 2 years to render when they first did it.
Soooo... yes, the 1GHz athlon is "faster" than a PS2.. but that doesnt mean that it can render a 3d scene, a weather pattern, or an atomic blast projection any faster. Though I doubt the iraqi's really need PS2's for that, I'm sure enough of them could easily whip out some nice Cray level projections. (I have a friend in the Gov't, and yes, he renders atomic blast projections on Crays).
not that that means much, cause like I said, I dont think PS2 is _that_ good. Hell, if they where that interested, they could probably smuggle in some G4's. Those are illegal there cause they're "too powerful" as well ;-)
just a little note: not all of NGE is out yet on DVD, only eps. 1-8. at the rate ADV releases them, it will all be available by ~oct/nov 2001.
I dont know much about a Linux box as an AV server, but there are two Linux email gateway AV solutions. Trend Micro, the markey leader, has Interscan VirusWall, which more or less turns your box into an email relay filtering out virii. myCIO (of Rumor fame) is also soon releasing a very similar product as Trend's, so right now I guess there is only one solution but I believe myCIO is due to release their product December.
I dont know much about multicasting, but I seem to recall that its only real use is on the MBONE, (wasnt there an ask slashdot about that a while ago), and MBONE doesnt really work to well for distruted file sharing (the general consencus of the ask slashdot about that). Like i said, im not sure, i know next to nothin on multicasting, but i think its completely infeasable for something like this. For example, say client a gets the packet and b gets a bad packet, how does b say "retransmit" when a doesnt need it? unless the network has 0.00% packet collision you would have serious issues.
please refer to the above comments on digital signatures regarding rumor.
actually I think it would follow a more of a keyring model.. the clients have a copy of the pub key and as long as the signature is signed with the corrosponding priv key youre good to go. if, for whatever reason, the priv key changes, its a simple matter of a revocation certificate.
that doesnt happen. the av software would remove the virus before it had a chance to do anything (like remove itself from the scan file). that's part of the basics of av software, you have a fingerprint, and you can detect a virus before it can do anything. else av software would be pretty useless wouldnt it? "norton has found the stoner virus, but only after it made your computer completely useless" ;)
thats the point. there _is_ a central source for a key and signature, and everything is verified based on the root key. I assume you understand digital signatures and certificates, so you would understand certficiate signing and hash's of an executable to prove it's validity.
anyone here heard of digital signatures? come on guys.. think about it for a minute. this is no less risky than downloading an update off a webserver, infact probably more secure because you can verify the sig and make sure it can from a non-web accessable (and therefore non-externally-crackable) source (such as a vault). cracked webservers are a dime a dozen.. try messing with a DSA sig. basic encryption here folks.
Check the nullsoft website. It's still there.
// Ian Shaughnessy
Saucer wisdom by Rudy Rucker, is a nifty little book about the future as seen through an alien abductee... trust me, it makes sense. The author discusses exactly this type of substance in-depth. I betcha the U of T guys are just pulling off of Rucker's style!
i wonder if i can modify the source to work on my sister as well?
conraduno
binxdsign
Though even if the WTO imposed tariffs, tariffs are based on a percent of the price of the incoming product. Linux is free. Which would mean a much larger potential Linux base for developing countries unwilling to pay the tariffs and therefore adopting an already tariff and otherwise cost free OS. Yay.
What other technical merits does he have?
:: secret agent conrad uno
:: binx
Why for some reason I am inclined to think you are an employee of Xetos?
Well, I did some research and apparently Pjotr Semanov is the cheif developer for Xetos. Anyone ever heard of him in the kernel-dev community?