One = free/discounted. One = regular price. Pretty straightforward. Google hasn't added any value to the product either, they've just changed the payment model. Pretty precisely the same option that MS is offering.
Hey, fucktard, here in the real world, people don't get pissy about things like this. Especially when if you look at anything from court documents to newspapers, bold and / or caps text is a way to emphasize a word / name as a subject.
But Apple fans shudder at anything remotely resemble brand dilution.
Look at the evidence. I was amazed that ATT let the iPhone plan have unlimited data. It is slow data, but this was a change for the majors.
What's amazing about that? The cost will be being made up somewhere. I pay $20 a month and get unlimited data for both phones on my plan, and unlimited wifi hotspot access.
Well then just add me to the list. By the time they add taxes, the cheapest text messaging plan and insurance I'm paying nearly $100 a month for a regular, "cheap" cellphone plan. Add me to the list of people who "can't afford a phone" because it's killing me. I would love to listen to a 30 second ad before making a call.
You're not looking hard enough. I have a 1000 minute family plan with two phones, unlimited weekends and evenings, unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimited messaging, for $90.
That's a nonsensical comment. You can get Works without ads. You can keep your existing copy of Works without ads. Or, you can choose the ad-supported version. You make it sound like you can buy Works, and all of a sudden, there'll now be ads appearing in it. Not so.
Of course, if you're, say, a state treasurer, you could always claim that those 200 mod chips were for personal use, since you intended to share them / give them away to people, rather than sell them. Hey, it works for someone who just scored almost 500 grams of coke.
My thoughts too. They were sold a seat. Other potential patrons may have been denied a seat as a result of this. I see no possible plausible reason why they'd be entitled to such.
And this sort of thing happens all the time with house sales. One big example? HOAs, and you tend to agree to their rules when you buy the house. If you don't, you can't buy the house. (HOAs are evil, yes, but they are real too.)
Let's not forget that HOA contracts often (particularly in Florida, Texas) in fact give them the ability to foreclose on your house if you owe them fees. Remember, you can run up credit card debt in the tens of thousands and your card company can't do that, but if you didn't pay your HOA fees... Actually, some of the acts undertaken in the name of HOAs transcend evil, and are illegal too: towing vehicles that are guests of a property owner, illegal fines levied, as well as good old huge contract violations .
And the promise that they will put that money towards the greater good is, where, exactly?
Or will it go into expanding the ad service, infiltrating it further into our lives. I don't know, but that seems a logical end-result of "Hey, ad revenue is up ten per cent this quarter!", not "Hey, that extra $500M we made on ads, let's blow it on that FCC auction".
Forgive me, but I have little to no interest in funneling money to a for-profit corporation that, all mottos, blinders and fanboys aside, has profit and its success, not mine, as its goal.
Cash on hand is one thing. Access to funding another. Google would have to set up infrastructure, a cost likely to dwarf the bid for the spectrum alone. AT&T has most, if not all, of that infrastructure in place. If I were a lending institution, I'd see a far bigger / better return on investment lending AT&T the money to outbid Google.
Uhhh, here's a clue: the FCC only gets the money of the winning bidder, not of all bidders. The winning bid would have almost definitely been more than $4.6B.
But don't worry, twitter, you spin it to make it sound like the FCC turned down $4.6B just to be in bed with the telcos.
It doesn't have any basis in reality, but it's hardly like that has stopped you before, has it?
And yet, you're not forced to send it to Apple for replacement. So obviously Apple isn't blocking third-parties from selling products and services for their gadgets.
That's laughable and you know it. Good luck getting your iPod repaired or replaced under warranty when its nicely obvious, due to the ding or otherwise, or, y'know, the third party battery that's in it.
"Sure, Apple's not forcing you to use their services. They'll void your warranty if you don't, but still."
Yes, I realize (and amn't arguing) that they're within their rights to do so. But if you think it's not effectively the same thing to the average non-Slashdot reading person on the street, you're standing too close to the RDF.
That's hilarious. You can buy portable media systems with CF/SD readers and 120GB hard drives for less than half the price of an 80 gig iPod. I spot a flaw in your logic.
Dick. Here's a word for you, "example". Here's a hint, Google Maps is a feature rich web application. The iPhone has a feature rich browser. And yet, despite that, you think that Apple instead chose to write an application tied to the API, which could break at any moment due to a change from a third party that would break their much vaunted "It Just Works" aim, rather than just using being a web browser app?
Gotta love your optimism. "It's Apple, so how could it not be better?"
Have you ever even looked at an iPhone? Google Maps is built-in. You don't need to run it in the browser.
Speaking of making no sense, this one always makes me laugh. What's so amazing about the Google Maps app? Why do I have this suspicion that if you peeked "under the hood", you'd see it was a link to Safari, pointing to maps.google.com (maybe maps.google.com/iphone), with a command line parameter or two to hide some UI? But "OMG!! REVOLUTIONARY!"
You can install Live Search (with directions, with GPS integration, with realtime traffic) as a standalone app on Windows Mobile devices, so forgive me for being underwhelmed by the legions of "OMG, ITS A STANDALONE APP!"
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One = free/discounted. One = regular price. Pretty straightforward. Google hasn't added any value to the product either, they've just changed the payment model. Pretty precisely the same option that MS is offering.
Mind you, Kevin spent a large part of every episode trying to nail anything with an appropriate orifice, too.
But Apple fans shudder at anything remotely resemble brand dilution.
A phrase I almost never use: "mod parent insightful" ... apparently, in the eyes of some Apple devotees, stack overflows are a "spec issue".
What's amazing about that? The cost will be being made up somewhere. I pay $20 a month and get unlimited data for both phones on my plan, and unlimited wifi hotspot access.
You're not looking hard enough. I have a 1000 minute family plan with two phones, unlimited weekends and evenings, unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimited messaging, for $90.
I see nearly zero difference in the two.
Gah. I knew that, really. But yeah, I got it back to front. Sucks to be me.
That's funny when you realize Elton writes almost none of his music, just the lyrics. Bernie Taupin is pretty exclusively the music writer.
Of course, if you're, say, a state treasurer, you could always claim that those 200 mod chips were for personal use, since you intended to share them / give them away to people, rather than sell them. Hey, it works for someone who just scored almost 500 grams of coke.
My thoughts too. They were sold a seat. Other potential patrons may have been denied a seat as a result of this. I see no possible plausible reason why they'd be entitled to such.
Let's not forget that HOA contracts often (particularly in Florida, Texas) in fact give them the ability to foreclose on your house if you owe them fees. Remember, you can run up credit card debt in the tens of thousands and your card company can't do that, but if you didn't pay your HOA fees... Actually, some of the acts undertaken in the name of HOAs transcend evil, and are illegal too: towing vehicles that are guests of a property owner, illegal fines levied, as well as good old huge contract violations .
Try doing that now. It don't work.
Who said I wanted AT&T to win? Why do I have to want either of them to win - it's not a binary situation.
Or will it go into expanding the ad service, infiltrating it further into our lives. I don't know, but that seems a logical end-result of "Hey, ad revenue is up ten per cent this quarter!", not "Hey, that extra $500M we made on ads, let's blow it on that FCC auction".
Forgive me, but I have little to no interest in funneling money to a for-profit corporation that, all mottos, blinders and fanboys aside, has profit and its success, not mine, as its goal.
And my local cable provider had (last time I checked, a few months ago) clear QAM on everything but adult channels.
Cash on hand is one thing. Access to funding another. Google would have to set up infrastructure, a cost likely to dwarf the bid for the spectrum alone. AT&T has most, if not all, of that infrastructure in place. If I were a lending institution, I'd see a far bigger / better return on investment lending AT&T the money to outbid Google.
But don't worry, twitter, you spin it to make it sound like the FCC turned down $4.6B just to be in bed with the telcos.
It doesn't have any basis in reality, but it's hardly like that has stopped you before, has it?
And the music gets on to the iPod by, uh, what? Telekinesis? It comes via the computer. Which has to be authorized. What was your so-called point?
That's laughable and you know it. Good luck getting your iPod repaired or replaced under warranty when its nicely obvious, due to the ding or otherwise, or, y'know, the third party battery that's in it.
"Sure, Apple's not forcing you to use their services. They'll void your warranty if you don't, but still."
Yes, I realize (and amn't arguing) that they're within their rights to do so. But if you think it's not effectively the same thing to the average non-Slashdot reading person on the street, you're standing too close to the RDF.
You do realize you don't need a full frame to use your lenses, right?
That's hilarious. You can buy portable media systems with CF/SD readers and 120GB hard drives for less than half the price of an 80 gig iPod. I spot a flaw in your logic.
Gotta love your optimism. "It's Apple, so how could it not be better?"
Speaking of making no sense, this one always makes me laugh. What's so amazing about the Google Maps app? Why do I have this suspicion that if you peeked "under the hood", you'd see it was a link to Safari, pointing to maps.google.com (maybe maps.google.com/iphone), with a command line parameter or two to hide some UI? But "OMG!! REVOLUTIONARY!"
You can install Live Search (with directions, with GPS integration, with realtime traffic) as a standalone app on Windows Mobile devices, so forgive me for being underwhelmed by the legions of "OMG, ITS A STANDALONE APP!"
Wow, it's the Apple / MS version of the Republican rejoinder of "But Clinton ..."