Thank you, your answer (and other comments) were right on the mark in this large branch that I started. I'm just jealous that I can't download Googles Linux. Ah well.
I'm not talking GPL. I'm talking about the "spirit of Linux". That spirit is to modify the OS and send that code to the community for review and reuse.
It's not that Capt'nC has a problem with business skills, the problem is people skills. I have not an MBA or any understanding of the laws of commerce, but I can cut deals with other organizations through being nice, playing fair, using common sense, being personable and other things you don't learn in a MBA class. If Capt'nC screams at people who smoke near him (instead of asking nicely) then that boy has much larger problems that lack of biz skills.
So they have been stringing you along by the cock for 9 years and you are still patiently waiting? This makes Microsoft product promises look like the word of god. Give in and give up man, your soul is at stake!
ZenShadow: I'm still haunting you from that earlier MySpace thread. Here is a little more evidence: http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,1540,2084131 ,00.asp
I'm not trying to lie to you, only show you the true path, that.NET does not scale well and MySpace is looking at alternatives.
Welcome to my foe list, how DARE you doubt me!
I welcome my time-traveling monkey genetic-tampering overlords! I just don't want scientists messin' with the genetics of the veggies and animals that I eat!
The new MacBook Pros are faster at running Photoshop in emulation than the old PowerBooks are running it native.
That's quite a tall statement not to back up with statistics. I call you a liar sir, until you do so.
Yes, I have an attitude problem. But my own customers continue to support it. I work long hours, sleep little, drink a whole lot of coffee. I get bitchy, I complain, I rail against the tech paths my customers force me down at times. I push the line as to what is reasonable, and appologize when I step over it.
But I'm a really solid coder - I do documentation and crap like that and deliver complete, secure and professional programs. I work efficiently, and bill my clients fairly.
They keep asking me back, even with my surely attitude. This does not seem like an uncommon paradigm within the elite of the tech industry. Look at Gates, Balmer, Jobs and Ellison. They are all complete assholes with problem-child attitudes. Its part of the industry. And no I didn't bother to RTFA.;-)
Does anyone here beside me worry that tampering with mother nature to this degree could have harmful repercussions? Last time I posted here about Genetically Modified Foods I got dugg-down. Whats the deal?
Software engineering is not any more difficult than other engineering disciplines. What makes software "hard" is that
1) Engineering methods are not rigorously used
2) Not enough people review the work of coders during the SDL
My.02 cents!
With respect (this time) I submit that due to the long and consistent history of applet sandbox bugs in all vendors JVM's for the last many years, that the architecture for CLIENT side APPLET Java IS fatally flawed. You think corporate america is using Applets for highly secure enterprise applets? No way! Its fundamentally flawed when one call to System.setSecurityManager(null) totally wipes the entire sandbox for all applets running in a JVM.
Java *applets* are run in a sandbox, which limits what they can do and makes them more secure than a normal Java application.
Although what you are saying here is true, one must weight the security history of applets in 2006 alone - take a look at my post below, I attached applet vulnerabilities that were posted days ago. Plus take a look at research from Marc Schoenefeld (awesome Java researcher) and Tom Hawtin (scarry smart Java cynic) http://jroller.com/page/tackline - Java is NOT ready to enterprise prime-time, way way to many ways to escape the sandbox - and just not once or twice, but monthly applet vulnerabilities for the last several years.
No thanks. I'm sticking to BSD, VI, Apache and LYNX only!:)
OMG you are smoking Java crack there boy. Client side Java has more vulnerabilities than... Javascript. I love Java, but keep it on the server where it belongs. MySpace is getting ready to consider migrating from.NET to Java, it's solid on the server. But on the client... nope.
Take this from the LAST sunsolve weekly report:
Newly Released Sun Alert Notifications
Sun Alert ID: 102729 (RESOLVED) Synopsis: Security Vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime
Environment may Allow Untrusted Applets to Elevate
Privileges and Execute Arbitrary Code Product: Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition Category: Security Date Released: 19-Dec-2006 Date Closed: 19-Dec-2006
Sun Alert ID: 102731 (RESOLVED) Synopsis: Security Vulnerabilities Related to Serialization
in the Java Runtime Environment may Allow Untrusted
Applets to Elevate Privileges Product: Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition Category: Security Date Released: 19-Dec-2006 Date Closed: 19-Dec-2006
Sun Alert ID: 102732 (RESOLVED) Synopsis: Security Vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime
Environment may Allow an Untrusted Applet to Access
Data in Other Applets Product: Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition Category: Security Date Released: 19-Dec-2006 Date Closed: 19-Dec-2006
Oh, quit your crying about 64 - the 60's are the new 30's. I'm sure Harrison has been drinking the blood of young babies for years and everyone in Hollywood KNOWS that stuff keeps you young and spry!
There are major problems in terms of COST to run.NET for such a large website, which is why the JAVA faction inside of MySpace is gaining ground. Already, there are major portions of MySpace coded in Java AND.NET. (CF stuff is long gone). Look, calling you an A-hole aside, I'm not joking around. MySpace is a hybrid of.NET and JAVA, with the JAVA camp gaining ground.
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Thank you, your answer (and other comments) were right on the mark in this large branch that I started. I'm just jealous that I can't download Googles Linux. Ah well.
I would be greatful if Google released portions of their personal Linux mod. That is perhaps the most scalable OS in the world and I want a copy!
I'm not talking GPL. I'm talking about the "spirit of Linux". That spirit is to modify the OS and send that code to the community for review and reuse.
It just seems to defeat the open source nature of Linux when you branch in a private way that avoids community code review and source code sharing.
It's not that Capt'nC has a problem with business skills, the problem is people skills. I have not an MBA or any understanding of the laws of commerce, but I can cut deals with other organizations through being nice, playing fair, using common sense, being personable and other things you don't learn in a MBA class. If Capt'nC screams at people who smoke near him (instead of asking nicely) then that boy has much larger problems that lack of biz skills.
So they have been stringing you along by the cock for 9 years and you are still patiently waiting? This makes Microsoft product promises look like the word of god. Give in and give up man, your soul is at stake!
DNF is vaporware, dude.
Those damn fucking amoeba's, I knew all along they were trying to undermine me from the beginning! DAMN YOU KAHN!!!!
ZenShadow: I'm still haunting you from that earlier MySpace thread. Here is a little more evidence: http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,1540,2084131 ,00.asp
.NET does not scale well and MySpace is looking at alternatives.
I'm not trying to lie to you, only show you the true path, that
Welcome to my foe list, how DARE you doubt me!
Thank you, that was the point I was fishing for them I started this thread, I bless you for your wisdom, wise one.
I welcome my time-traveling monkey genetic-tampering overlords! I just don't want scientists messin' with the genetics of the veggies and animals that I eat!
That's quite a tall statement not to back up with statistics. I call you a liar sir, until you do so.
Yes, I have an attitude problem. But my own customers continue to support it. I work long hours, sleep little, drink a whole lot of coffee. I get bitchy, I complain, I rail against the tech paths my customers force me down at times. I push the line as to what is reasonable, and appologize when I step over it.
;-)
But I'm a really solid coder - I do documentation and crap like that and deliver complete, secure and professional programs. I work efficiently, and bill my clients fairly.
They keep asking me back, even with my surely attitude. This does not seem like an uncommon paradigm within the elite of the tech industry. Look at Gates, Balmer, Jobs and Ellison. They are all complete assholes with problem-child attitudes. Its part of the industry. And no I didn't bother to RTFA.
Does anyone here beside me worry that tampering with mother nature to this degree could have harmful repercussions? Last time I posted here about Genetically Modified Foods I got dugg-down. Whats the deal?
But not as we know it....
iCell
No, most security incidents result from a failure to develop software properly.
Software engineering is not any more difficult than other engineering disciplines. What makes software "hard" is that 1) Engineering methods are not rigorously used 2) Not enough people review the work of coders during the SDL My .02 cents!
With respect (this time) I submit that due to the long and consistent history of applet sandbox bugs in all vendors JVM's for the last many years, that the architecture for CLIENT side APPLET Java IS fatally flawed. You think corporate america is using Applets for highly secure enterprise applets? No way! Its fundamentally flawed when one call to System.setSecurityManager(null) totally wipes the entire sandbox for all applets running in a JVM.
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Heck, they called setSecurityManager(null) a BUG for NOT WORKING back in 1997 and they FIXED it: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_i
With respect, keep away from Applets if you care about security.
Although what you are saying here is true, one must weight the security history of applets in 2006 alone - take a look at my post below, I attached applet vulnerabilities that were posted days ago. Plus take a look at research from Marc Schoenefeld (awesome Java researcher) and Tom Hawtin (scarry smart Java cynic) http://jroller.com/page/tackline - Java is NOT ready to enterprise prime-time, way way to many ways to escape the sandbox - and just not once or twice, but monthly applet vulnerabilities for the last several years. No thanks. I'm sticking to BSD, VI, Apache and LYNX only!
OMG you are smoking Java crack there boy. Client side Java has more vulnerabilities than... Javascript. I love Java, but keep it on the server where it belongs. MySpace is getting ready to consider migrating from .NET to Java, it's solid on the server. But on the client... nope.
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Take this from the LAST sunsolve weekly report:
Newly Released Sun Alert Notifications
Sun Alert ID: 102729 (RESOLVED)
Synopsis: Security Vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime
Environment may Allow Untrusted Applets to Elevate
Privileges and Execute Arbitrary Code
Product: Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition
Category: Security
Date Released: 19-Dec-2006
Date Closed: 19-Dec-2006
To view this Sun Alert document please go to the following URL:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetk
Sun Alert ID: 102731 (RESOLVED)
Synopsis: Security Vulnerabilities Related to Serialization
in the Java Runtime Environment may Allow Untrusted
Applets to Elevate Privileges
Product: Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition
Category: Security
Date Released: 19-Dec-2006
Date Closed: 19-Dec-2006
To view this Sun Alert document please go to the following URL:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetk
Sun Alert ID: 102732 (RESOLVED)
Synopsis: Security Vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime
Environment may Allow an Untrusted Applet to Access
Data in Other Applets
Product: Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition
Category: Security
Date Released: 19-Dec-2006
Date Closed: 19-Dec-2006
To view this Sun Alert document please go to the following URL:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetk
Oh, quit your crying about 64 - the 60's are the new 30's. I'm sure Harrison has been drinking the blood of young babies for years and everyone in Hollywood KNOWS that stuff keeps you young and spry!
There are major problems in terms of COST to run .NET for such a large website, which is why the JAVA faction inside of MySpace is gaining ground. Already, there are major portions of MySpace coded in Java AND .NET. (CF stuff is long gone). Look, calling you an A-hole aside, I'm not joking around. MySpace is a hybrid of .NET and JAVA, with the JAVA camp gaining ground.
Oops, bad example be be. BUT there are still large sections of MySpace "under the hood" that are pure Java, your shit for brains A-hole.