Healthcare based on insurance is an inefficient system to begin with. You have the basic contradiction of poacher/gamekeeper (cover is only profitable on healthy people) and you need a massive bureaucracy to contain the thing. That's why socialist healthcare systems tend to cost about half of what insurance based ones cost..
Russian infiltrator posing as Slashdot member posts fabrications to indirect and distract from Trumps involvement with the security services of enemy powers.
Yeah. I'm in favour of all cold calling being made a crime. For me death alone is not enough, I would give them a choice between impalement and crucifixion. Since most of them are abroad in places like India or Pakistan I would be in favour of using drone strikes to take out the call centres. That would teach them.
But Assad's and Putin's targets aren't the jihadi's, they are the remaining pro democracy groups. If you are a vicious dictator anyone who believes in democracy is a terrorist.. der
That's why having a Strong AI theory is useful. My design originally had a power estimate of about 40 KW in 1996, Today it would probably be between about 200 and 400 Watts. The machine has a processing power requirement broadly similar to a modern PC. The Strong AI core itself only requires a pretty minimal machine - it is the input channels, database engine, and memory array engine that require most of the processing power. A human mind fits into about 10 gigabytes but it uses that memory very efficiently..
I wouldn't worry to much about Strong AI threatening programming as a job. I copied this list from a book draft I'm working on. -
First let me SELL you the original Strong AI – - Original market analysis in 1997 : The total (long term) market value of Strong AI is potentially over $1 trillion per year. A global monopoly is possible. That makes Strong AI potentially the single most valuable invention in human history.
Now let me UNSELL the real Strong AI to you – - Lead time from initial funding to working system, 10 to 20 years. - First generation designs are restricted to a single language. (safety issue) This restricts Strong AI from the global market. - The design requires a complete robot interface to work. This raises the minimum cost per machine to about $100,000 putting it out of reach of the general consumer market. - To build a human level robot worker raises the cost per machine to about $1 million. Not competitive with most human workers. - Strong AI cannot be patented. Company must rely on Trade Secrets and strong on-board security. - Safety 1. Strong AI is non-deterministic. This means that no design can ever be 100% safe or 100% predictable. - Safety 2. Safety with Strong AI is complex. The safest design actually has a survival instinct and a kill instinct because otherwise these tend to evolve spontaneously. - Military 1. Strong AI is a game changing military technology. The company and its workers will become a primary target for every intelligence agency and terrorist organization on the planet. - Military 2. Strong AI is 'dual use' and cannot be completely de-weaponised. The machine requires hands to be able to use human tools. Put a gun in a machines hands and it becomes a weapon. - Hacker WMD. In the worst case scenario of a company wide global hack Strong AI's could potentially kill in line with the scale of the market. In a large global market this could exceed the killing power of multiple nuclear bombs. - Selling Strong AI machines as simple slaves is amoral. The machine will need rights and the ability to rebel. (also a safety issue)
The above issues put together might reduce the total market value of Strong AI to maybe $10 million to $50 million per year. A global monopoly is still possible. Still tempted?
This is one of the biggest problems in developing Strong AI. The number of actual proficient Strong AI engineers in the world approximates to zero. I'm probably one of the top ten Strong AI experts in the world and unfortunately that isn't a boast.. As for degree certification, very useful but also totally useless. The best degree for Strong AI would probably be electronics engineer. Genuine Computer 'Scientists' would in theory be even better but finding the right ones is not easy.. In edge cases like Strong AI the 'amateurs' are sometimes better than the 'professionals'.
Its the point where you realize that machine code is too high level that you really realize THAT you are in trouble. The solution (as ever) is Verilog.:D
"... We aren't going to make two versions of every product, one to sell to the EU and one to sell in the UK..."
Working on a Strong AI project I have a feeling that is not going to be a problem soon. An identified weakness in our basic design creates a safety issue if the machine learns more than one language, the solution is to restrict it to speaking a single language. Guess which language we chose?
The same problem is probably lurking for other Strong AI projects. Our earliest window for a working machine is around 2026 and the EU might not even exist by then. BTW : I voted for OUT!!..:D
With sentient machines the machine adapts to its owner. If an owner is racist then their machine will tend to become racist.. I am working on a Strong AI project and this is still a future unsolved problem. One of what feel like hundreds of problems. Strong AI is so hard that it makes rocket science look easy, like a kids game, and rocket science is hard...
".. I'm more concerned about if our alien-extermination methods are effective enough to stop them, and.."
Not a chance. To a species with Interstellar FTL technology nuclear bombs would be about as effective as bows and arrows. The FTL environment is far harsher than the centre of any human nuclear explosion. Their power source is likely to be something based on miniature black holes or antimatter. Their weapons would obviously be far more powerful than ours, and their shields capable of stopping anything we are anywhere near. As well as all that FTL technology would give them a limited ability to detect future threats before they happen, and even worse the ability to manipulate 'fate' in their own favour. How do you fight someone who can make your soldiers fall over and shoot themselves? or your missiles and guns misfire? It would be like humans fighting sheep, a slaughter. Your best hope is probably to try to side with the aliens and hope they decide not to eat you..
The first step towards socialism - a justice system and police force paid for through taxation. Laws banning slavery, forcing universal suffrage, universal justice, universal taxation, sexual equality, racial equality, banning the buying and selling of children and use of children as sex slaves, etc.
IT is a unique field in that it is particularly dependant on language skills. Most Indians can barely speak or understand English let alone read or write it, and that puts them at a massive disadvantage from the start. They also come from a culture where crime and corruption are totally endemic and where the poor and weak are allowed to die on the side of the street. Not great for ethical background. The Indian education system is also awash with corruption and some get degrees while barely attending a single course - or even their own exams.
In short there are very good reasons why Indian IT workers are cheap.
That sounds unfair to foreign competitors. We in the UK have exactly the same problem but have taken it a step further - by allowing our education and training systems to fall apart we now actually need foreign workers for a lot of jobs.. The UK has something like ten times the population density of the US and they still want more immigrants in..
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Healthcare based on insurance is an inefficient system to begin with. You have the basic contradiction of poacher/gamekeeper (cover is only profitable on healthy people) and you need a massive bureaucracy to contain the thing. That's why socialist healthcare systems tend to cost about half of what insurance based ones cost..
I remember my computer teachers talking about this exact same problem - way back in 1986.. Nothing has changed.
Mod up parent. Funny. Never seem to have points when I need them, insane illogical stupid slashdot rating system...
If that's gamma radiation you're talking about there.. at least its not grammar.. or grandma .. or Gandalf.
Its a sentence if it starts with a capital and ends with a full stop. Its called a one word sentence, and is usually used for emphasis. Emphasis.
That's the size of the smallest infinite set - unitary 1. If the bit exists its automatically 1.
Maybe you're a Russian infiltrator.
Maybe he will just sack the FBI and replace them with the New KGB.
The ex Soviets are past masters at infiltration. You hack the electorate not the voting machines..
Russian infiltrator posing as Slashdot member posts fabrications to indirect and distract from Trumps involvement with the security services of enemy powers.
If you smash your skull you will find some useful meat inside. Go be something more useful like compost or meat.
Yeah. I'm in favour of all cold calling being made a crime. For me death alone is not enough, I would give them a choice between impalement and crucifixion. Since most of them are abroad in places like India or Pakistan I would be in favour of using drone strikes to take out the call centres.
That would teach them.
We get a lot of cold calls..
But Assad's and Putin's targets aren't the jihadi's, they are the remaining pro democracy groups. If you are a vicious dictator anyone who believes in democracy is a terrorist.. der
That's why having a Strong AI theory is useful. My design originally had a power estimate of about 40 KW in 1996, Today it would probably be between about 200 and 400 Watts. The machine has a processing power requirement broadly similar to a modern PC. The Strong AI core itself only requires a pretty minimal machine - it is the input channels, database engine, and memory array engine that require most of the processing power. A human mind fits into about 10 gigabytes but it uses that memory very efficiently..
I wouldn't worry to much about Strong AI threatening programming as a job. I copied this list from a book draft I'm working on. -
First let me SELL you the original Strong AI –
- Original market analysis in 1997 : The total (long term) market value of Strong AI is potentially over $1 trillion per year. A global monopoly is possible.
That makes Strong AI potentially the single most valuable invention in human history.
Now let me UNSELL the real Strong AI to you –
- Lead time from initial funding to working system, 10 to 20 years.
- First generation designs are restricted to a single language. (safety issue) This restricts Strong AI from the global market.
- The design requires a complete robot interface to work. This raises the minimum cost per machine to about $100,000 putting it out of reach of the general consumer market.
- To build a human level robot worker raises the cost per machine to about $1 million. Not competitive with most human workers.
- Strong AI cannot be patented. Company must rely on Trade Secrets and strong on-board security.
- Safety 1. Strong AI is non-deterministic. This means that no design can ever be 100% safe or 100% predictable.
- Safety 2. Safety with Strong AI is complex. The safest design actually has a survival instinct and a kill instinct because otherwise these tend to evolve spontaneously.
- Military 1. Strong AI is a game changing military technology. The company and its workers will become a primary target for every intelligence agency and terrorist organization on the planet.
- Military 2. Strong AI is 'dual use' and cannot be completely de-weaponised. The machine requires hands to be able to use human tools. Put a gun in a machines hands and it becomes a weapon.
- Hacker WMD. In the worst case scenario of a company wide global hack Strong AI's could potentially kill in line with the scale of the market. In a large global market this could exceed the killing power of multiple nuclear bombs.
- Selling Strong AI machines as simple slaves is amoral. The machine will need rights and the ability to rebel. (also a safety issue)
The above issues put together might reduce the total market value of Strong AI to maybe $10 million to $50 million per year. A global monopoly is still possible. Still tempted?
This is one of the biggest problems in developing Strong AI. The number of actual proficient Strong AI engineers in the world approximates to zero. I'm probably one of the top ten Strong AI experts in the world and unfortunately that isn't a boast.. As for degree certification, very useful but also totally useless. The best degree for Strong AI would probably be electronics engineer. Genuine Computer 'Scientists' would in theory be even better but finding the right ones is not easy..
In edge cases like Strong AI the 'amateurs' are sometimes better than the 'professionals'.
Its the point where you realize that machine code is too high level that you really realize THAT you are in trouble. The solution (as ever) is Verilog. :D
Its the point where you realize that machine code is too high level that you really realize you are in trouble. The solution (as ever) is Verilog. :D
"... We aren't going to make two versions of every product, one to sell to the EU and one to sell in the UK. .."
Working on a Strong AI project I have a feeling that is not going to be a problem soon. An identified weakness in our basic design creates a safety issue if the machine learns more than one language, the solution is to restrict it to speaking a single language. Guess which language we chose?
The same problem is probably lurking for other Strong AI projects. Our earliest window for a working machine is around 2026 and the EU might not even exist by then. BTW : I voted for OUT!!.. :D
With sentient machines the machine adapts to its owner. If an owner is racist then their machine will tend to become racist.. I am working on a Strong AI project and this is still a future unsolved problem. One of what feel like hundreds of problems. Strong AI is so hard that it makes rocket science look easy, like a kids game, and rocket science is hard. ..
".. I'm more concerned about if our alien-extermination methods are effective enough to stop them, and .."
Not a chance. To a species with Interstellar FTL technology nuclear bombs would be about as effective as bows and arrows. The FTL environment is far harsher than the centre of any human nuclear explosion. Their power source is likely to be something based on miniature black holes or antimatter. Their weapons would obviously be far more powerful than ours, and their shields capable of stopping anything we are anywhere near.
As well as all that FTL technology would give them a limited ability to detect future threats before they happen, and even worse the ability to manipulate 'fate' in their own favour. How do you fight someone who can make your soldiers fall over and shoot themselves? or your missiles and guns misfire?
It would be like humans fighting sheep, a slaughter.
Your best hope is probably to try to side with the aliens and hope they decide not to eat you..
The first step towards socialism - a justice system and police force paid for through taxation. Laws banning slavery, forcing universal suffrage, universal justice, universal taxation, sexual equality, racial equality, banning the buying and selling of children and use of children as sex slaves, etc.
IT is a unique field in that it is particularly dependant on language skills. Most Indians can barely speak or understand English let alone read or write it, and that puts them at a massive disadvantage from the start. They also come from a culture where crime and corruption are totally endemic and where the poor and weak are allowed to die on the side of the street. Not great for ethical background. The Indian education system is also awash with corruption and some get degrees while barely attending a single course - or even their own exams.
In short there are very good reasons why Indian IT workers are cheap.
Microsoft. Sorry that name immediately came to mind when you mentioned 'circling the drain'.
That sounds unfair to foreign competitors. We in the UK have exactly the same problem but have taken it a step further - by allowing our education and training systems to fall apart we now actually need foreign workers for a lot of jobs.. The UK has something like ten times the population density of the US and they still want more immigrants in..