I don't think you're right. Everyone who has met Stallman seems to have to write something about being impressed by his physical appearance. This article is no exception. He is not wearing the uniform of others, but he is trying to intimidate people with his own styled appearance. If you have this hairstyle and are wearing these colors, then this somewhat reminds me of Dirk Gently, self-styled holostic detective, sporting an utterly unfashionably collection of garbs, but still, self-styled and cultivated and consciously so because of the effect it creates and has on people.
But I like Stallman for being self-styled and his own man. It's much better than a lot of nerds who are just wearing another uniform, the carefully cultivated nerd look. Yet they're dressing as they think they're supposed to, conforming to how others look. As someone who likes to think he's self-styled, all I've left to say is: 1) be your -own- man, 2) for the love of god, it is OK to have some style and class. Really! I won't condemn you as a lousy programmer for wearing good shoes.
>So you have a regular website template and one for disability. Is that so hard?
This seems to be a leading theme, presumably by people who do not make sites or make sites that don't work well with disability.
The company I work for actually built a site for a foundation for blind people, and they provided a test panel to go through the motions, and a whole set of guidelines to go with it. Let start by saying it isn't just throwing another template at it. If you think you're coding in standards, nice div's and CSS all, and that it just requires throwing a template at it with less bling, think again. Essentially the "problem" is readers, and you'll have to cater for the basic, anal reader html parser. A whole lot of tags you thought were ok, suddenly turn out to be wrong, such as BR. The whole navigation design and design in general will fail, because it's not much fun going into a page for content and being read 50 links first. The whole way of logically setting up text areas and making sure it flows takes a lot of reconsideration. The testing and debugging takes a lot of time, and you -will- bumb into issues you just plainly did not consider because you are simply not blind. Then there's the CMS, and its users should not be able to break any of this. I can go on, but all in all it took about 150% of the time web site builders normally put in a site, complete with "basic" template. That is, if you want to do it 100% right.
Bladerunner ages remarkably well, especially considering movies from the same area. What disturbed me most last time I saw it, were the CRT screens. If only that was remastered, and the story set forward some 10 years or so, it would be hard to identify it as a movie from 1982.
There are problems with increased perceived security, it is directly correlated to the attention and concentration of the driver. Likewise, only 1/5th of accidents happen while it's raining, because people drive more safely. In the Netherlands a death spot system (mirrors or cameras) is mandatory on trucks to protect the bikers and kids since 2003, the first results show the system is often ill aligned or maintained, while the drivers rely on it and lazily skip the part where they really watch, and this ironically leads to accidents. On a whole it still saves a lot of lives.
I -knew- it. It's just like the year 2000 "problem", which was a hoax by COBOL programmers to make a few bucks, and the whole virus "threat", clearly an invention by the industry that sells you the medicine. Spam is sent by BOFH sysadmins for job security! Paranoid? Just consider this: how many of you so called sysadmins would be out of a job if there would be no spam? Nuff said.
My father was a water biologist. They, and their biology colleagues everywhere, find new species and organisms all the time. Especially the really small ones. In fact, there are so many of them, they are pretty much named after everybody, in "latineze". There are zillions of them. Two crustacean types have been named after me. He was -this- close to honoring the dog. Most remain unnamed though and just carry an id. I ask you, has this been a problem to you and did it mess up history as you suggest? Now, take the universe and pieces of rock you'll never see, or, even better, stars instead. We can safely honor every thug on earth (and their dogs) with their own stars, and still end up with relatively all of the stars not being named. In this number game, they wouldn't win even if they would make it their full time profession to give silly names to stars.
In other words: it's not a problem as long as they don't rename Mars to Shatner.
Another sad case where someone who likes BSD is downmodded for his opinion by GPL zealots, who of course upmod the cliche GPL fanboy answers. Sad, sad, sad... Another very bad advertisement for GPL. The funny thing is, everytime they do this, more people chose BSD over GPL.
The electronic voting system proved to be easy to hack. The new system they will build will operate like this:
- The new voting machines will look almost identical to the current electronic voting machines.
- But instead of a message on the screen "You have voted. Thank you.", it prints the vote.
- You take the print, check it, and deposit it in the voting box.
This will be much harder to beat, but it remains to be seen how accurate the scanning system will be. By printing the vote, one can eliminate many errors like with chads, but still people can bend, grease them, etc.
Silly boy, you add nothing to the discussion, make a false claim, and got a big mouth. Next time use your brain, and ADD something to the discussion. Your noise is helping no one in particular. And still you haven't managed to point out where the analogy broke down. If you'd like to play, at least get some game. Tsssk.
Funny, you say there are zealots, they acted like zealots, this caused my reply, but since I identified them and said they are zealots, it's a troll? Personally I think if people behave a certain way which defines them, I'm gonna call them according to the definition them set themselves. If you don't like that, call me a troll every time.
It's ironic you defend it by pointing to others who are guilty of the same offense, and that's it. Car analogy: I called a speeding driver a speeding driver. Your reply: he's guilty of speeding, but there are many persons speeding, personally I don't like speeding, don't call speeding drivers speeding drivers because that's trolling. Ok then.
If the GPL would be about knowledge or education, we would have a setup where people can learn things, but with that knowledge they can't just go and add their own experience and knowledge, without giving back (capitalism), what they added must be given back to the big collective (communism) or otherwise they will be punished. They've been trying this in North-Korea. This is the world view RMS has on software, and he made a license to propagate that license and world view.
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but this is the first time a GPL zealot managed to call BSD altruism a flying bullet aimed at its users, in order to advertise their own license. Why, thanks! In a similar line of reason, Mother Theresa was an anarchistic warlord. Not only will their FUD never end, it's getting worse and uglier all the time. But at least BSD people don't have to advertise their cause like that. The GPL people are doing that nicely now, they only don't realize it.
It wasn't a troll, but rather modpoints were abused by people who simply did not like what you said. GPL fanboys are like Apple fanboys who troll down everyone in sight saying something vaguely critical about their beloved company. You can't just criticize these perfect people with truth, you troll!;) They are not interested in a fair discussion, they want your opinion to disappear in oblivion. It happens all the time, and it is hurting the GPL as more and more people avoid the license of zealots.
I'm more worried about the a company that wants to crush, or if that fails, buy, everything and move everywhere that tends to be successful, and they ain't called Microsoft. In their important quest to sell more ads and get more eyeballs, year after year, Google has to do this and use their vast resources to crush everybody else. I never build products for the Windows paltform, either you'll fail, or you'll succeed, MS will crush you, and you'll fail. This seems to be the entity Google is thriving for to be on the Internet.
IANAL, so I'm a bit taken aback by the purely law technical discussion here by all the lawyers and law experts (hello, and welcome to Slashdot).
So I'd like everybody to remember that, technicalities cast aside, it is in extremely bad taste, unmannered and cheap to start a commercial billboard campaign, look for photo's on flikr, and not have the common courtesy to simply ask the persons involved, certainly if they are teens, "hey, do you mind, if we use your photo for this thing"? But no, they want to save a few bucks, don't care about people, and used the pure technicalities to pursue those goals. Fine. So Richard Branson is advertising himself as a c*ck-s*cking teen profiteer, who uses his leech money for projects to blow up his ego to gigantic proportions. Thank you, Richard.
I'm trying to make something like that with DutchPIPE (dutchpipe.org), with the difference it is aimed at the web (it turns websites in virtual environments by making each page a location and assigning avatars).
In short, it's open software that anyone can download and patch, and if you'd have, say, 1000 websites running it, I want them to be able to connect their sites to a bigger whole so it, sort of, becomes one big world. Now this is just a small project you may never hear of again, but the point is that I think virtual environments will only really catch on, if it's free game and interconnected just like the web. These companies making privately or corporate owned worlds, hosted on their servers, this is not how it should be, except as a part of a bigger whole. Imagine that most web sites would be hosted by a few companies using non-free technologies. An open and standard protocol to communicate between them is not enough.
I'm confused now by two conflicting insightfully modded anecdotal evidence (parent and grandparent), and the definition of influence by other people. I know other people are the bio mass entities sitting at the dinner table, but where do these books and movies magically appear from? Certainly not from the entities at the dinner table. To add to the confusion, I know of one family where they didn't talk science and one kid became a scientist and the other a hair stylist, while I also know of another family, where they talked science and one kid became a scientist and the other a hair stylist. Now what?
Grandparent had quite an elaborate opinion (thank you for sharing). Do you care to address these baseless claims, misunderstanding and complications? Because otherwise, why would I care for your announcement which shortly states you disagree, but not why you disagree? Grandparent allows for an interesting discussion, parent doesn't.
The more and more I see these trolls attacking BSD with ridiculous redefinitions of freedom, it makes me wonder if these guys are paid by Microsoft or something. It would be a perfect strategy to divide and fracture the open source world. Either way, they must be laughing their asses off.
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I don't think you're right. Everyone who has met Stallman seems to have to write something about being impressed by his physical appearance. This article is no exception. He is not wearing the uniform of others, but he is trying to intimidate people with his own styled appearance. If you have this hairstyle and are wearing these colors, then this somewhat reminds me of Dirk Gently, self-styled holostic detective, sporting an utterly unfashionably collection of garbs, but still, self-styled and cultivated and consciously so because of the effect it creates and has on people.
But I like Stallman for being self-styled and his own man. It's much better than a lot of nerds who are just wearing another uniform, the carefully cultivated nerd look. Yet they're dressing as they think they're supposed to, conforming to how others look. As someone who likes to think he's self-styled, all I've left to say is: 1) be your -own- man, 2) for the love of god, it is OK to have some style and class. Really! I won't condemn you as a lousy programmer for wearing good shoes.
>So you have a regular website template and one for disability. Is that so hard?
This seems to be a leading theme, presumably by people who do not make sites or make sites that don't work well with disability. The company I work for actually built a site for a foundation for blind people, and they provided a test panel to go through the motions, and a whole set of guidelines to go with it. Let start by saying it isn't just throwing another template at it. If you think you're coding in standards, nice div's and CSS all, and that it just requires throwing a template at it with less bling, think again. Essentially the "problem" is readers, and you'll have to cater for the basic, anal reader html parser. A whole lot of tags you thought were ok, suddenly turn out to be wrong, such as BR. The whole navigation design and design in general will fail, because it's not much fun going into a page for content and being read 50 links first. The whole way of logically setting up text areas and making sure it flows takes a lot of reconsideration. The testing and debugging takes a lot of time, and you -will- bumb into issues you just plainly did not consider because you are simply not blind. Then there's the CMS, and its users should not be able to break any of this. I can go on, but all in all it took about 150% of the time web site builders normally put in a site, complete with "basic" template. That is, if you want to do it 100% right.
Bladerunner ages remarkably well, especially considering movies from the same area. What disturbed me most last time I saw it, were the CRT screens. If only that was remastered, and the story set forward some 10 years or so, it would be hard to identify it as a movie from 1982.
There are problems with increased perceived security, it is directly correlated to the attention and concentration of the driver. Likewise, only 1/5th of accidents happen while it's raining, because people drive more safely. In the Netherlands a death spot system (mirrors or cameras) is mandatory on trucks to protect the bikers and kids since 2003, the first results show the system is often ill aligned or maintained, while the drivers rely on it and lazily skip the part where they really watch, and this ironically leads to accidents. On a whole it still saves a lot of lives.
I'm sorry to disturb the parallel parking conveniences day dreaming of some, but the real advantage is the elimination of blind spots. For starters, if every SUV (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/22/earlyshow/living/parenting/main526462.shtml), truck (http://www.oregonlive.com/metro/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1192245943100770.xml&coll=7), tractor (http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1046/j.1440-1754.1998.00177.x?cookieSet=1) or van had such a device, thousands of lives around the globe would be saved each year.
I -knew- it. It's just like the year 2000 "problem", which was a hoax by COBOL programmers to make a few bucks, and the whole virus "threat", clearly an invention by the industry that sells you the medicine. Spam is sent by BOFH sysadmins for job security! Paranoid? Just consider this: how many of you so called sysadmins would be out of a job if there would be no spam? Nuff said.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
My father was a water biologist. They, and their biology colleagues everywhere, find new species and organisms all the time. Especially the really small ones. In fact, there are so many of them, they are pretty much named after everybody, in "latineze". There are zillions of them. Two crustacean types have been named after me. He was -this- close to honoring the dog. Most remain unnamed though and just carry an id. I ask you, has this been a problem to you and did it mess up history as you suggest? Now, take the universe and pieces of rock you'll never see, or, even better, stars instead. We can safely honor every thug on earth (and their dogs) with their own stars, and still end up with relatively all of the stars not being named. In this number game, they wouldn't win even if they would make it their full time profession to give silly names to stars. In other words: it's not a problem as long as they don't rename Mars to Shatner.
Another sad case where someone who likes BSD is downmodded for his opinion by GPL zealots, who of course upmod the cliche GPL fanboy answers. Sad, sad, sad... Another very bad advertisement for GPL. The funny thing is, everytime they do this, more people chose BSD over GPL.
The electronic voting system proved to be easy to hack. The new system they will build will operate like this:
- The new voting machines will look almost identical to the current electronic voting machines.
- But instead of a message on the screen "You have voted. Thank you.", it prints the vote.
- You take the print, check it, and deposit it in the voting box.
This will be much harder to beat, but it remains to be seen how accurate the scanning system will be. By printing the vote, one can eliminate many errors like with chads, but still people can bend, grease them, etc.
In the meantime we'll return to the red pencil.
Silly boy, you add nothing to the discussion, make a false claim, and got a big mouth. Next time use your brain, and ADD something to the discussion. Your noise is helping no one in particular. And still you haven't managed to point out where the analogy broke down. If you'd like to play, at least get some game. Tsssk.
Funny, you say there are zealots, they acted like zealots, this caused my reply, but since I identified them and said they are zealots, it's a troll? Personally I think if people behave a certain way which defines them, I'm gonna call them according to the definition them set themselves. If you don't like that, call me a troll every time. It's ironic you defend it by pointing to others who are guilty of the same offense, and that's it. Car analogy: I called a speeding driver a speeding driver. Your reply: he's guilty of speeding, but there are many persons speeding, personally I don't like speeding, don't call speeding drivers speeding drivers because that's trolling. Ok then.
You couldn't have pleased me more, thank you for proving my point and advertising GPL people are zealots.
So an analogy breaks down because..it's an analogy. Right. Thank you for your contribution.
If the GPL would be about knowledge or education, we would have a setup where people can learn things, but with that knowledge they can't just go and add their own experience and knowledge, without giving back (capitalism), what they added must be given back to the big collective (communism) or otherwise they will be punished. They've been trying this in North-Korea. This is the world view RMS has on software, and he made a license to propagate that license and world view.
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but this is the first time a GPL zealot managed to call BSD altruism a flying bullet aimed at its users, in order to advertise their own license. Why, thanks! In a similar line of reason, Mother Theresa was an anarchistic warlord. Not only will their FUD never end, it's getting worse and uglier all the time. But at least BSD people don't have to advertise their cause like that. The GPL people are doing that nicely now, they only don't realize it.
It wasn't a troll, but rather modpoints were abused by people who simply did not like what you said. GPL fanboys are like Apple fanboys who troll down everyone in sight saying something vaguely critical about their beloved company. You can't just criticize these perfect people with truth, you troll! ;) They are not interested in a fair discussion, they want your opinion to disappear in oblivion. It happens all the time, and it is hurting the GPL as more and more people avoid the license of zealots.
I'm more worried about the a company that wants to crush, or if that fails, buy, everything and move everywhere that tends to be successful, and they ain't called Microsoft. In their important quest to sell more ads and get more eyeballs, year after year, Google has to do this and use their vast resources to crush everybody else. I never build products for the Windows paltform, either you'll fail, or you'll succeed, MS will crush you, and you'll fail. This seems to be the entity Google is thriving for to be on the Internet.
IANAL, so I'm a bit taken aback by the purely law technical discussion here by all the lawyers and law experts (hello, and welcome to Slashdot).
So I'd like everybody to remember that, technicalities cast aside, it is in extremely bad taste, unmannered and cheap to start a commercial billboard campaign, look for photo's on flikr, and not have the common courtesy to simply ask the persons involved, certainly if they are teens, "hey, do you mind, if we use your photo for this thing"? But no, they want to save a few bucks, don't care about people, and used the pure technicalities to pursue those goals. Fine. So Richard Branson is advertising himself as a c*ck-s*cking teen profiteer, who uses his leech money for projects to blow up his ego to gigantic proportions. Thank you, Richard.
I'm trying to make something like that with DutchPIPE (dutchpipe.org), with the difference it is aimed at the web (it turns websites in virtual environments by making each page a location and assigning avatars). In short, it's open software that anyone can download and patch, and if you'd have, say, 1000 websites running it, I want them to be able to connect their sites to a bigger whole so it, sort of, becomes one big world. Now this is just a small project you may never hear of again, but the point is that I think virtual environments will only really catch on, if it's free game and interconnected just like the web. These companies making privately or corporate owned worlds, hosted on their servers, this is not how it should be, except as a part of a bigger whole. Imagine that most web sites would be hosted by a few companies using non-free technologies. An open and standard protocol to communicate between them is not enough.
I'm confused now by two conflicting insightfully modded anecdotal evidence (parent and grandparent), and the definition of influence by other people. I know other people are the bio mass entities sitting at the dinner table, but where do these books and movies magically appear from? Certainly not from the entities at the dinner table. To add to the confusion, I know of one family where they didn't talk science and one kid became a scientist and the other a hair stylist, while I also know of another family, where they talked science and one kid became a scientist and the other a hair stylist. Now what?
>Ever tried it with Slashdot? The *light* version of the front page is 600k!
Weird, I go to the *normal* front page, click Document Size on Firefoxes Web Developer add-on, and this is the result:
Documents (1 file) 15 KB (67 KB uncompressed)
Images (34 files) 31 KB
Objects (0 files)
Scripts (4 files) 68 KB (290 KB uncompressed)
Style Sheets (3 files) 36 KB
Total 150 KB (424 KB uncompressed)
So where's your extra 176KB in the light version, and does Lynx have gzip support?
Grandparent had quite an elaborate opinion (thank you for sharing). Do you care to address these baseless claims, misunderstanding and complications? Because otherwise, why would I care for your announcement which shortly states you disagree, but not why you disagree? Grandparent allows for an interesting discussion, parent doesn't.
The more and more I see these trolls attacking BSD with ridiculous redefinitions of freedom, it makes me wonder if these guys are paid by Microsoft or something. It would be a perfect strategy to divide and fracture the open source world. Either way, they must be laughing their asses off.
> Someone just won at Internet trolling.
I bet he is a pirate.