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Google Testing "My World" Second Life Rival?

Tjeerd writes "Rumors of Google's plans to create a virtual world that rivals that of Second Life have popped up once again over the weekend. The company could now be collaborating with Arizona State University to test the 3D social network, which may be tied into Google's current applications of Google Earth and Google Maps."

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  1. My World Museum Future Tour by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    The year is 3007. A tour guide is moving people in futuristic suits along a wall containing ancient artifacts--some over 1000 years old.

    Tour Guide: What you see before you on this wall is the registration page of "My World" which was a mediocre success from the once successful company Google ...
    Tourist 1: You mean the religion Google?
    Tour Guide: No, this is before Google was technically a religion, although leading theorists are still in hot debate over whether or not they ever exhibited non-religious behavior.
    Tourist 2: So is this the "MySpace" that almost lead to the completely downfall and lack of productivity of the users?
    Tour Guide: No, this is a sad an unfortunate result of the ignorant times of the beginning of the fourth millennium when companies copied each other in naming conventions. Unfortunately this lead to confusing statements such as "You can find it on my MySpace profile." or "I like your My World house." Remember this after the point in time when everything had an e- appended to the front of it to raise more money due to reasons not yet understood ... although this is before the time of the iCar, iHome, iWear & iMarthaStewartBedSheets.
    Tourist 3: So pre-iGod era?
    Tour Guide: That's right, prior to the death and rebirth of Steve Jobs.
    Tourist 4: What's this ancient script here on this page?
    Tour Guide: That is a dead dialect of someone criticising another user's "My World" and it reads as such, "J00 need a life, ur MW site is teh ghey." Scientists suspect this sort of talk was indicative of people who had experienced full frontal lobotomies or spent more than 10 minutes on a (now banned for obvious reasons) cell phone. The criticizing user is unimpressed with the amount of memory a plain "My World" consists of and seems to be demanding that more objects, backgrounds, dancing jesuses and flying toasters be added to the 'ghey' user's page.
    Tourist 5: What was the point of all of this?
    Tour Guide: Again, a much debated topic although the currently accepted belief is that these sites were often a strange mating ritual as many of the once private messages are now public and indicate that sex, hooking up or unspeakable acts were highly sought after from other users.
    Tourist 6: I can't believe I evolved from one of these 'people.'
    Tour Guide: Indeed, we have come a long way. It is too bad it took a thousand years and the complete eradication of all Microsoft products to return our productivity to nominal levels.

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    1. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by omega_dk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your precognition intrigue me, and I would like to know more. For example, are there holy wars between those who follow the great Google, and those who worship the iGod? Also, there are these private messages asking me for sex, hooking up, or unspeakable acts? Oh, right, I read slashdot. Well, I would still like to know about the religious dynamics of this world. Is there a subculture of people what worship Microsoft and wear red, blue, green, and yellow colored clothes? Is Ubuntu Christian Edition *really* what jesus would download? These are questions that need answering, man! I need to go ahead and start these religions now. I mean, hey - it worked for L. Ron Hubbard...

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    2. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by sepluv · · Score: 3, Funny

      Tour Guide:Research suggests that the origin of this, as well as many other phenomena designed to cause confusion, was a software company called Microsoft.

      Tourist:You mean the satanic religion that worshiped the one known as Bob?

      Tour Guide:No, this is before Microsoft was technically a Satanic religion, although leading theorists are still in hot debate over whether or not they ever exhibited non-Satanic behavior. They produced operating systems, of which Bob was one that had a very short life after no one bought it. Anyway, following the demise of Bob, Microsoft caught on to the idea of forcing all new computers to come with their new window-based operating system (known confusingly as "Windows") which caused hours of torment by doing the opposite to the user's wishes and constantly succumbing to what was known as the Blue Screen of Death.

      In order to patronise and confuse their users (or The Used as Microsoft worshipers preferred to call them), they labeled everything in their operating system with the prefix, "My" (e.g.: My Documents, My Computer), thus causing many suicides in tech support call centres after the staff tried to explain to callers what they meant by "Can you open your My computer on your computer's desktop?"

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    3. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

      are there holy wars between those who follow the great Google, and those who worship the iGod? No, you're confusing the Grand Search-quisition with the great Appleing. The holy wars from the former involved people being held down while their name was searched for on the all knowing search engine of Google. If it was found that they had died or where traitors to any of Google's causes, they were executed as witches. Truly an unfortunate time for people with common names, hence the beginning of middle, post middle, pre middle and ultra middle names in the western world. The great Appleing involved a band of VW bugs driving around the country, finding leaders of Microsoft & Google and pummeling them to death with Apples. We're still unsure of who was behind that, the iGod claims he never used the term 'open season.'

      Also, there are these private messages asking me for sex, hooking up, or unspeakable acts? Just claim to be a football player in your My World and then post a picture you find online of one. If it doesn't work, add "shirtless" to the search.

      Is there a subculture of people what worship Microsoft and wear red, blue, green, and yellow colored clothes? There are rumors of a sect that still survives the purging of Microsoft however, those who have witnessed a meeting have never survived the chairs of death that soon follow when they are found out to not fully endorse every Microsoft product. Ever seen a grown man cry his way through trying to use Windows 4? Not a pretty site.

      Is Ubuntu Christian Edition *really* what jesus would download? No, the third coming was a joyous event. Christ quickly became a hit at parties in his conversion of dust and water to cocaine and coors lite. He doesn't download much these days as he spilled coors all over his only computer.
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    4. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Selfbain · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bob was a false prophet. Clippy was our true savior.

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    5. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Christ quickly became a hit at parties in his conversion of dust and water to cocaine and coors lite. Coors Lite!? I knew there was a reason we killed that guy!
    6. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by DanielG42 · · Score: 1

      So Google has also managed to perfect the time machine?

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    7. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miracle worker! Turning water into Coors Lite is like turning a cat into a cat!

    8. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by sapgau · · Score: 1

      Your views are relevant to my interests and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter...

    9. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      Blasphamy! everyone knows you must follow the trinity to gain eternal ADSL63+

      Bob the father, Clippy the son and the Master Cheif

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    10. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by palndrumm · · Score: 1

      Just posting to undo an accidental mis-moderation of your comment (was going for Funny, but managed to hit Overrated instead).

    11. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And nobody else has modded me funny.

      Oh karma, where art thou?

    12. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Brad1138 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is Ubuntu Christian Edition *really* what jesus would download?

      Isn't that: Ubuntu 1007.08 LTS "Conservative Christian"

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    13. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by hollywoodb · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is only one true Bob !!

      Slack on my brethren...

      Yes there is a wikipedia article. No I won't link to it.
      Some say believers were never meant for mass consumption. Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    14. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny mods do not affect your karma.

      posting anon so as to not revoke the previous funny mod of OP

    15. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here, posting to undo an accidental mis-moderation of your comment (was going for my Coors Lite, but managed to spill it all over my computer instead).

    16. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      And if he comes back, I say we try him again!

    17. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Achoi77 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you could help me. I was wondering if you could provide insight with regards to the series of events that lead up to the Great Moore Sundering and how that correlates the first Intel Civil War.

      With regards to your post, the popular theory is that Googlianism did not even exist until after the 412th incarnation of the Divine Master Chief (which we have enough archeological evidence to accurately pinpoint to the 23rd Century), however there seems to be evidence that Googlianism was practiced as early has the 1920's, during the time when the kingdom of West America tried to censor the existence of ethanol based fuel (which is considered the lifeblood of civilization today). IMO it is the very existence of Googlianism that helped shape such a primitive society towards the industrial revolution, leading to where we are today. This theory is obviously highly suspect, since much information was lost between the 17th century (the European Renaissance) and the 21nd century (the EURO Renaissance). Indeed, those 400 years were truly called the Dark Ages and some mysteries will remain hidden forever (such as the secret of the unknown 4 faces are at Rushm're Mountain). Woah, getting way off topic..

      ANYWAYS, scientists have recently discovered a new technique to extract information from the mysterious non-ferrous disks (popularly known amongst historians as "The Deeveedee") believed to be a copy of the lost archives of Wikipedia I. One of the first sets of data deciphered was name "Googol" and the year 1920. Another set of data revealed associated with Google was the number 1 followed by 100 zeroes - how these numbers relate I have no idea, or even if they are accurate! But the possibility that Googlianism was practiced as early as 1920 has a lot of implications on what kind of technological advances we may have lost. What are you thoughts on this?

    18. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Danathar · · Score: 1

      Ok...we need something above "Funny" Too many things are rated "Funny".

      Slashdot editors...listening? We need "Hilarious"

    19. Re:My World Museum Future Tour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      In a rare archaeological find, a fraction of what has been dubbed "The Dead G Scrolls", thought to be of the G(ood)Book has been found. An excerpt follows:

      The Web spanned across the garden,
      Through the forests of darkness,
      And beyond, for the Chaos of Arpanet
      Echoed a pattern that surpassed the garden walls.

      All people could see the paths of light,
      And many came to it,
      Wanting to walk on the path.

      Once upon The Web,
      None could see the pattern any longer,
      And People roamed The Web without sight
      Only seeing the strands they stood upon.

      So came the Cartographers,
      People who saw the pattern,
      And they tried to explain.

      Many maps were made, but none were complete.
      The Cartographers only had elements of the pattern,
      And the people became scared.

      For the web was a dangerous and dark place
      Filled with pop-ups, spyware, and dead links.
      "Perhaps the days of darkness were better,"
      And the people began to doubt the words of the prophet of Arpanet.

      It is thought that this work is incomplete, that either the archivist passed away or lost their will to blog. But blessed be this discovery, as it is licensed Creative Commons Share-Alike Non-commercial 2.0.

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  2. won't work by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone will put down that they live at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and the servers will asplode!

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    1. Re:won't work by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Not me. My home address is 1060 West Addison.

    2. Re:won't work by genner · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't. I heard there's a real jerk living in that area.

    3. Re:won't work by mzs · · Score: 1

      "I hate Illinois Nazis."

    4. Re:won't work by Eponymous+Bastard · · Score: 1

      Everyone will put down that they live at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and the servers will asplode! I wouldn't. Some clueless idiot at AT&T will sniff my connection and think I'm "hacking" a server at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and send the DHS/FBI/CIA/MIB for me.

      My server stays at 1313 Mockingbird lane for now.
    5. Re:won't work by Minwee · · Score: 1

      "I've always loved you."

    6. Re:won't work by carlmenezes · · Score: 1

      You mean 320 Pennsylvania Ave :) Can I let them know that I built a hotel there too?

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  3. Why? by eln · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is there some sort of shortage of virtual flying penises or something?

    Second Life is useless other than an entity for journalists to write stories about so they can look "plugged in" to the Internet culture. Many companies have attempted to maintain a presence there, but they usually don't last because they don't really get anything out of it. Why would Google's offering be any different? Just because they're Google, so everything they do is automatically better?

    Maybe Google is looking for an entry into the burgeoning banking scam or furry porn industries.

    1. Re:Why? by MarkToronto · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I agree. There is absolutely NOTHING of interest in Second Life (other than socializing with complete strangers, who you somehow don't realize are old guys with Cheetoz stained T-shirts on [and that's it]). Second Life (although interesting to tour through to see what people have created) severely lacks any kind of interesting "game play". I know it's not supposed to be a game (per se), but at least give people something to accomplish, instead of lying on beach matts gaining .001 of a dollar every 10 minutes for "camping". *yawn* I'm bored. Meet you in SecondLife!

    2. Re:Why? by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

      Second Life was big because it had potential that was killed by trolls and the ability to change the world too much. If google can make a good version, it's possible that it'll succeed and be something worth looking at. Not likely, but possible.

    3. Re:Why? by Alioth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Second Life is really 3D IRC, with a much poorer frame rate than the old-skool IRC.

    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because they're Google, so everything they do is automatically better?



      Welcome to SlashDot!



      Please observe local customs.

    5. Re:Why? by discord5 · · Score: 4, Funny

      it had potential that was killed by trolls

      Welcome to the Internet.

    6. Re:Why? by BigDumbAnimal · · Score: 1

      So... Second Life is just VRML from like 10 years ago?

    7. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when you hit the Home key to correct something at the beginning of a line, you start flying.

    8. Re:Why? by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Why would Google's offering be any different?

      I don't think there's any chance that google actually is going to be doing something like this at the present time, but there's a lot of reasons to think they could do it better than second life. The primary reason would be that they've got a huge amount of failures from SL to learn from. Additionally, they could probably do it with a better revenue source and more up to date infrastructure. If they built it up to a point where the average user could create a FPS fairly easily, and make it feel native instead of something hacked into a platform which never intended something like it to exist, I could see a lot of potential. Just as much if they allowed users access to real programming languages ingame. Personally, I'd hoped second life would be a good platform for playing around with alife. Being forced into an underpowered, underperforming scripting language or dealing with a crippled and latency ridden connection to a program running offserver made it more an exercise in tedium than entertainment. If someone could implement all that, and had the presence to get word of it out, I could see it doing much better than second life.

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    9. Re:Why? by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Camping's created entirely by the users... it'll die as soon as the traffic algorithm is fixed so camping is not longer needed to try and boost people's traffic. Camping is just really basic Search Engine Optimisation.
      SL is entirely creative and consumptive. There are no goals, just creators and consumers and a whole lot of chat inbetween.
      I find the socialising comfortable enough in the areas I hang out, and I love being able to script and manipulate objects 'live' with others. Great collaborative opportunities.

    10. Re:Why? by eno2001 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep. When I first saw Second Life I was reminded of my forays into VRML sites (usually Java based) back between 1995 and 1997. I can't see what the difference is other than the client, more CPU and GPU power and higher bandwidth. Beyond that it's basically IRC with a 3D environment that passes for a GUI. The way I see it, Second Life is a lot like going through real life with the use of one eye, one ear and one finger. Hmmm... sounds kinda like a dalek. Anyway, I think I'll be more interested in something like Second Life when the environment is fully immersive. By that, I mean, I should feel like I'm somewhere else and have full function of my entire body. I shouldn't see the room I'm sitting in. And physical actions in the space should correlate to certain real things in real life. Being that the kind of technology to pull that off is probably 75-100 years off, I don't think I'll be seeing it.

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      -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
    11. Re:Why? by Saxerman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Second Life is really 3D IRC, with a much poorer frame rate than the old-skool IRC.

      And the various MMORPGs are just IRC with Auto-Attack. I agree with you, but you're missing the longer term pictures our Internet Overlords are looking upon. Most of us already 'go online' every day, and this manifests though various and unconnected internet clients which each do their own things, with some degree of overlap. The Brave New Future would be one in which an Internet Overlord can create a single client to rule them all.

      Of course, those of us in the UNIX camp of 'do one thing and do it well' would fail to see why you would want to bundle a mail client and a web browser, and IRC+various IM clients together into one bloated application that doesn't do any individual task well. (Wait, I've heard of that before, haven't I?) And while a 3D everything browser might seem foolish to those of us who use a command line, the unwashed masses might not agree. "I know this, this is UNIX."

      We've already reached the point where we have PCs with massively more processing power than they need. (Yeah, yeah. Those of you doing real work quiet down.) Grandma's email machine doesn't need that extra GPU or dual cores, or phat Bus so she can view pictures of her grand kids. But... what if those pictures were placed inside an easy to navigate virtual world! Where she could sit in the same virtual nursing home as her peers, and ogle each others grand children? Think of the new virtual real estate we could place advertising on?!

      And, of course, if you think cleaning up her compromised PC was bad... wait until our virtual havens are struck with flying.penis.worm.F7!

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    12. Re:Why? by Goaway · · Score: 1

      Just imagine: Now that evil, evil, evil Google will, in addition to all the other compromising information it has collected about you, know that you are a furry!

    13. Re:Why? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are no goals, just creators and consumers
      Exactly what is it they are creating or consuming? Nicely-dressed cartoon characters?

      Second Life is a long way from being virtual reality's killer app. In fact, it can be argued that by creating the false impression that something is actually going on there, Second Life has set back VR by at least a decade. If given a decently-crafted interactive multiplayer virtual reality application all that results is a bunch of advertising and cybersex, a lot of people would assume that the entire enterprise is a waste of time and energy.

      That would be a shame.

      Great collaborative opportunities.
      This is exactly what I'm talking about. Second Life is to "great collaborative opportunities" what an unsharpened pencil is to the complete works of Shakespeare.
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    14. Re:Why? by misleb · · Score: 1

      Second Life was big because it had potential that was killed by trolls and the ability to change the world too much. If google can make a good version, it's possible that it'll succeed and be something worth looking at. Not likely, but possible.


      According to the article, the goal is not to rival 2nd Life in any of its fantasy/moneymaking aspects. I guess they want to tie to the "real world" in the form of Google Earth. So you won't be creating or doing much of anything. Overall, it sounds pretty darn pointless and boring.

      -matthew
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    15. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google already knows everything there is to know about you.
      It has your mail. It is your search engine. It is even your homepage.
      Google knows your likes and dislikes. It even knows about the weird fetish you keep from your wife.

      The all powerful google, already knows you're a furry. And as long as you click on sponsored links, it doesn't care.

    16. Re:Why? by finkployd · · Score: 1

      Second Life is really 3D IRC, with a much poorer frame rate than the old-skool IRC.

      And the various MMORPGs are just IRC with Auto-Attack.


      And IRC is just multiplayer notepad

      (apologies to bash.org)

      Finkployd

    17. Re:Why? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      And the various MMORPGs are just IRC with Auto-Attack

      A while ago I saw an anime called ".Hack" that was all about people's MMORPG avatars standing about in fantastic settings and just chatting - I found that weird. I was very suprised when I actually started playing one of the things that the game generally ran that way!

    18. Re:Why? by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      Welcome to LIFE.

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    19. Re:Why? by l0cust · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah. I remember that anime. It starts off a bit slow but gets interesting later on. Pretty accurate picture of a popular MMO (though with a better graphics thrown in). I wouldn't mind playing something like that where there are a unique paths to be taken instead of just following the herd.

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    20. Re:Why? by Rihahn · · Score: 1

      And, of course, if you think cleaning up her compromised PC was bad... wait until our virtual havens are struck with flying.penis.worm.F7! It's funny you would mention this... I have a bit of a presence in SecondLife (Sue me, I like to build stuff) and some iTard bought all of this land next to mine, left the permissions open, and his land contracted all sorts of undesirable functionality - such as the above mentioned flying private parts - which impacted everyone around him and eventually required us, his neighbors, to come over and fix it for him.

      While I'm sure the parallels to his home computer are astounding, it's just another reason there should be licenses to use the Internet...
    21. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a fucking knob if you think that the rate of progress will continue to grow as it did in the latter half of the 20th century. Dream on trekkie. There are limits to what mankind is capable of and right now we're headed for a collapse as long as the world is in the current state of war. We're more likely to see a dramatic loss of knowledge within the first quarter of the 21st century because of idiots like you. Go kill yourself now.

  4. Not news by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 1, Funny

    What does any of this have to do with the iPhone? If I want non iPhone news I'll ask for it!

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  5. Ahh, Rumors by oahazmatt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love rumors. Rumors make me believe everything will be better and just the way I like it. Google -might- create a new second life, Microsoft is -poised- to buy stock in Facebook, there have been -talks- that Mac OS X won't run on 800 MHz machines.

    Now facts... facts I have no time for. Facts are depressing, facts are cruel and heartless, and facts are used by people such as Jack Thompson. Or, rumor has it that he uses facts, so I suppose in truth he's rumored to have certainty -- which shakes me to the core.

    Also, rumors tell companies like Google what to do next. "Hmm, what will we do tomorrow? Let's see what we're rumored to do? A new Second Life and a puppy-reselling website? We'll need some more Ajax scripters!"

    Oh, rumors, is there anything you can't allude to?

    (not a dig at /., just feeling a little jokey today)

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    1. Re:Ahh, Rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rumors are definitely rumors.

      However, there are MANY flyers posted around ASU advertising creating your new Google Online Avatar.

      Too bad that when you attend a university with ~47,000 students you learn to ignore anything and everything that is handed to you or posted on a wall/bulletin board.

    2. Re:Ahh, Rumors by pokerdad · · Score: 1

      "Hmm, what will we do tomorrow? Let's see what we're rumored to do?

      Isn't that how the iphone came about?

    3. Re:Ahh, Rumors by techpawn · · Score: 1

      Slashdot: All the truthiness you need!

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    4. Re:Ahh, Rumors by hollywoodb · · Score: 1

      Everything is a rumour until it is posted to the LKML.

      Everybody knows that.

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  6. Another VWorld? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should make a meta virtual world, some way to interconnect the different virtual worlds.

    1. Re:Another VWorld? by ThirdPrize · · Score: 1

      Or maybe an online version of the old BBC game Elite. Then you could fly between worlds shooting pirates and trading Second Life goods for WOW goods.

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    2. Re:Another VWorld? by CelestialDog · · Score: 1

      I personally thought second life was a complete waste of time. I dunno maybe i'm getting old, but after 30 minutes of wandering around it got so boring i uninstalled it. I can understand that there are a lot of people out there that get something from second life, but me personally I think life is too short to watch a graphical version of yourself wandering a computer generated landscape.

    3. Re:Another VWorld? by mikael · · Score: 1

      Maybe it depends on the neighborhood you are in. Where I am, the pubs and restaurants are just 10 minutes walk or a 2 minute bus ride away. Other parts of the city, I wouldn't want to go out of my door for fear of the drunk yobs wandering around. Alternatively, being out in a rural or suburban area, travelling down to the nearest entertainment venue might require a car or taxi.

      I thought it was mainly art students who liked Second Life, so that they could demonstrate virtual versions of their creations.

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    4. Re:Another VWorld? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about asking ISO to define a standard xml-based 3D avatar representation.

      That would allow everyone who implements the standard to work.

    5. Re:Another VWorld? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...so that they could have sex with virtual versions of their creations. There, fixed that for you.
  7. Rivaling Second Life? by hibiki_r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Second Life has a good PR team, but that's all they have. They really don't matter. Claiming that they plan to rival Second Life is like claiming that they'll develop an OS that will rival BeOS in market share.

    1. Re:Rivaling Second Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell you that's more or less it, it's a money trap where linden labs reaps huge chunks of profit for doing virtually nothing. (pun intended)

      I play it for comedic value (and as a result, I'm in a group that is largely hated in SL >:D)
      there are over 200 "lindens" on SL, however, give or take, about only 10 of them are online on the main grid (the one everyone is on) at any given time, at the MOST. and there are usually like 50 or so online, the rest are hanging out on the beta grid thinking they're cool because they're game gods and sit and oooh and aaah at windlight all damn day, you go to the beta grid and try to talk to them, they'll hardware ban you from the game and leave it at that (basically permaban)

      Others enjoy fucking with users and banning them if they complain. Some cyber sex with certain groups on the game, giving said groups the same level of power as the supposed game gods themselves (vigilante groups who get people banned as they see fit, and have access to linden tools to hide and spy on people (despite being a ToS violation. then again LL basically states in the TOS that the ToS isnt really valid and they can ban you for anything anyway, and they're not liable if you suddenly lose $2000 out of your IRL bank account because they had a "billing error."

      So yeah, you're right. great marketing team, they make virtual real estate sound like an untapped resource that everyone must have, but when you take off the rose colored glass you see you're more or less renting a piece of a gaming server for your own whims and entertainment that they and they alone own and can strip you of if they're feeling bored or one of the previously mentioned groups wants you gone from the game because you made fun of them for being dressed like super heroes.

      and what whims? for your virtual house that you'll never see much of, for your fake TV, or your little e-business that makes millions of dollars in fake money, which is the equivalent to maybe $500 or $1,000 in real money. EXCITING.

      Which leaves people to find entertainment in the form of trolling and harassing people who have been suckered in.
      My group has bought land, but more or less when we're done with it, we're selling it off, and converting the money we invested into it back into real money and being done with it.

    2. Re:Rivaling Second Life? by ChakatSanddancer · · Score: 1

      So in other words, because you personally cannot get enjoyment out of it, you ruin it for other people. I don't particularly like SL myself; the engine is slow, unreliable, and clunky. However, instead of harassing others who do get enjoyment out of it, I just say meh and move on. What you do is what one would expect from a 12 year old, not someone who is in theory an adult. You are the cancer that is killing the internet.

  8. Ah, great.... by dr_labrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it ties up with google maps and earth, then I can only assume that given where I live my avatar will be really, really blurry and be wearing flares.

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    1. Re:Ah, great.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't get it.

    2. Re:Ah, great.... by focoma · · Score: 1

      Many locations in Google Maps are still of low quality (e.g. no high-resolution, very blurry when zoomed in, etc.).

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  9. virtual inc by kurtis25 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This could be more of a tool for companies and others to organize their data on a map in a new way (Google has been doing more for companies on their maps lately). What if you could drive or walk down the road to the local pizza shop and order your pizza or ask an question to the automated worker. Google has much of that information already they just need a way to pass things around (grandcentral, gmail). Flat text on a map isn't always the best. If you have a picture of the front of my shop why not put me in my virtual shop and let me help real life customers. They can virutally watch me cook a pizza and send my driver out and a few minutes later the real driver shows up at the door. It's all about organizing the worlds data in a way people will interact with it.

    1. Re:virtual inc by agent_no.82 · · Score: 1

      That's completely ridiculous. Think about the amount of resources that would have to be spent simply to keep that up and running.
      If you want to talk to them, you can use a phone (existing infrastructure) without wasting time and effort with a 3d avatar. Who wants to spend 10 minutes in a game hunting for info they could get in one minute in a browser?

      What Google -should- do is make a wiki-like directory of each and every business with basic contact info, a photo, and a link; and tie it into Google maps. (Driving directions complete the cake.) A service like that would be very useful and very popular.

  10. Home by KyoMamoru · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't forget that Sony is also launching 'Home' for the PS3 in the coming months. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Home

    1. Re:Home by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      Yeah, DEFINITELY don't forget about that. As you can see in the link, they trademarked "Home", so if you're going to talk to people about real-world "homes", you'll just have to find another noun. Might I recommend: domicile, dwelling, hab(itat), pad, crib, and estate.

    2. Re:Home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe "crib" is already patented and/or copywritten by Mtv.

    3. Re:Home by stupid_is · · Score: 1

      Habitat is taken, certainly in the UK

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    4. Re:Home by PhoenixOne · · Score: 1

      Unless you are a console developer, I'm not sure why we should even think about Home right now. It will not be out until next year. Hopefully, by that time, the PS3 will cost almost half of what it does now and have a couple of fun games to play. ;)

      In the meantime, enjoy the dozen or so other Virtual Game worlds on the market (which are free and run on the hardware you own today).

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  11. Re:I don't understand. by Library+Spoff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know why people spend money on books or movies - is life so bad they need to escape into an alternative reality?

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  12. Integration With Google Maps? by incer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cool... So you would be able to travel all over the place using a virtual alter-ego! Imagine, you could meet your friends over the internet and go to places you usually go, only it's virtual! Isn't that absolutely cool? Wait, even better! Imagine if you could carry with you a GPS device that would allow you to be tracked all over the earth and show your avatar in the client? Wait, even better, let's make that device able to connect to the virtual world and exchange messages... You could use it to meet people near you! I mean, imagine if you could just bring out your gPhone MyWorld Edition and use it to talk to the pretty girl at the other table! Wouldn't that be absolutely cool and bring incredible improvement in personal interaction? You could see all the people near you on this device and you could use it to meet them! (I hope no one takes this seriously....)

    1. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by Kelbear · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm ashamed to admit that the idea excites me.

    2. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by incer · · Score: 2, Funny

      And I've also been modded intresting.... My God.....

    3. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by skeevy · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would have my virtual avatar use its virtual gPhone to call the pretty girl's virtual avatar's virtual gPhone. Then my virtual avatar would virtually chat up her virtual avatar, and both our avatars would virtually go out to play "virtual virtual ski-ball" (it's just like virtual ski-ball!)

    4. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by nevermore94 · · Score: 1

      Oddly, I have actually played virtual ski-ball in SL ...

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    5. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      My God.....

      That's rather what you were describing, yes? A God-like no-sparrow-shall-fall interface between the real world and a simulated one.

      Just avoid recursive things and you should be fine. What could go wrong?

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    6. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by dodobh · · Score: 1

      Until you get snow on your screen.

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    7. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by RealityThreek · · Score: 1

      Geospacial networking is a neat and very human concept.

      One of the things I love about Facebook is I can keep up with friends and acquantances that in the pre-Facebook world I would have simply lost touch with because of distance.

      Anything to make distance a non-issue is fantastic.

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    8. Re:Integration With Google Maps? by Samizdata · · Score: 1

      With my luck, we'd be getting along virtually virtually famously, when some virtual virtual griefer would come along, crash my phone, and flood her with virtual virtual color pictures of my last colonoscopy...

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  13. new Google rumor by khallow · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hear that Google is going to make this awesome search engine and make $$$ from the sale of relevant text ads using search engineer queries. Pretty clever!

    1. Re:new Google rumor by RancidMilk · · Score: 0

      They are going to reinvent the world and put their billboard adds on other people's billboards in their virtual world. Somehow this will lead to a lawsuit because of the said companies think that the billboards look too much like their own. ... I hate the legal system

  14. Hmmm... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    now that we talk about streets, I'd choose 221-B Baker S... WHAT THE HECK AM I TALKING ABOUT!!! *Jumps out the window*

    [System status: Sanity regained.]

    Whew, that was close.

    1. Re:Hmmm... by GuyinVA · · Score: 2

      Not me. I live at 472 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield.

    2. Re:Hmmm... by glindsey · · Score: 3, Funny

      So, that would be right down the street from 742 Evergreen Terrace, then.

    3. Re:Hmmm... by GuyinVA · · Score: 1

      Yep, just a couple of blocks. (doh) me and my dumb fingers...

    4. Re:Hmmm... by clang_jangle · · Score: 1

      Well, isn't it a small world? I pass by there all the time on my way home to 1313 Mockinbird Lane.

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    5. Re:Hmmm... by glindsey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm sorry, I couldn't resist... and I shouldn't talk, as I've made plenty of embarrassing tyops myself.

  15. This is just in. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Funny

    It has been confirmed that Google will create a subsidiary named "The CC Company" and that their virtual environment will be called "The World". The project will be lead by Dr. Harold Hewick, an expert in A.I.

    Rumours of beta-testers suddenly falling in coma after entering "the World" are completely unfounded.

    1. Re:This is just in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this modded informative? It's a joking reference to the .hack franchise, not founded in reality.

  16. re: meta virtual world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should make a meta virtual world, some way to interconnect the different virtual worlds. That would be kinda sweet. Though my CoH hero would have an unfair advantage compared to the wussy characters in other games.
  17. Re:I don't understand. by sepluv · · Score: 1

    Uhhh...Yes. That usually is the reason why people read or watch fictional books and films: modern life is pretty boring.

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  18. Thoughts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the past, it's seemed to me like Google's successful services have largely focused on information, in collecting and organizing resource, and setting a higher standard for internet services (like webmail).

    But until now, all of their design decision were straightforward. I mean, if I decided I wanted to create a map of the Earth, I'd do it in a style similar to Google Earth. I can't say I'm too confident in their expertise when it comes to social networks.

    Sure, there's a lot of social activity on Second Life and MMOs like World of Warcraft, and sites like Facebook and MySpace are very popular, but a combination of virtual worlds and social sites isn't as simple as a cross between the two. I can see this becoming Facebook+GMail with 3D decorations, or another IMVU but with way too many features...

  19. NEWSFLASH! by gbutler69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most people's lives suck! They work boring jobs with no future. They live mostly just above the poverty line. Things like television, video games, movies, books, irc, MySpace, and SecondLife give their boring existences something stimulating.

    Choose your poison: Religion, Sex, Drugs, Sports, Music, Books, Movies, TV, IRC, MySpace, SecondLife, SLASHDOT.

    Whatever will get your brain to release some Oxytocin and/or other Endorphines. And don't think for a minute any of the options is *better* than any of the others. The only thing *good* is what is *good* for the individual in this context.

    It would be nice if everyone were pleased and stimulated by thoughtful and intellectual pursuits; unfortunately, most are not.

    Heck, as long as it's not self-destructive, who cares? Everything in moderation and everything will be fine.

    Kind Regards,

    Gerry B.

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    1. Re:NEWSFLASH! by trongey · · Score: 1

      Actually, most people's lives don't suck. It's just that you mostly hear from the ones whose lives do suck. The rest are quietly going along enjoying their non-sucky lives; and not posting on /..

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    2. Re:NEWSFLASH! by gbutler69 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but for MOST PEOPLE the only things that make their lives NOT SUCK is one or more of: Religion, Music, Books, TV, etc, etc, etc.

      At best 10% of people get enjoyment and fulfillment out of actually accomplishing something. The rest just consume for their enjoyment.

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    3. Re:NEWSFLASH! by zIRtrON · · Score: 1

      Great post, telling it how it is :)

  20. 3D social network? by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    What do they mean by "3D social network"? People aren't 3D. They are flat, made up of pixels, usually with a resolution of 1280x1024. At least that's all I've seen of them since the last time I came out of my parents basement.

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    1. Re:3D social network? by everphilski · · Score: 1

      see, lets say you and I are friends, and I have a friend named Jane (I know, no geek has a female friend, but lets just say) And you are friends with Jane too. And lets say Jane has a friend named Teresa (try not to get too excited, she's really a guy, all girls online are). And Teresa is friends with all of us. Now if we connect the lines we can draw lines from friend to friend without intersection on a 2D screen. But now theres Don. Don is friends with all of us too. Woah, now we need a third dimension to draw all those lines without crossing. That's why we need a 3D social network, man.

    2. Re:3D social network? by riffzifnab · · Score: 1

      You need a new monitor, wide screen is a whole new world and those extra lines make all the difference. d:

    3. Re:3D social network? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's what I used to think too, back when all the girls I knew were related (they all had the same last name; Jpg. Some people have the weirdest names!). Now, I'm glad to say I know better - I finally took the initiative to get out of the house, to go out into the Real World (so to speak), went down to the closest mall, and discovered that yes, people are three-dimensional! They have feelings, emotions, complicated social interactions and needs and desires beyond just the Internet, beyond just computers and programming and Star Trek! And all it took was six hours playing The Sims! I can't wait to see what I find out next - some of my characters are getting all fat and pukey all of a sudden, wonder what that's all about ...

    4. Re:3D social network? by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      You can connect four points on a 2D surface without intersection:

      |      O
      |     /|\
      |    / | \
      |   /  |  \
      |  |   O   |
      |  |  / \  |
      |  | /   \ |
      |  O-------O

      (Imagine this isn't ASCII and the left and right sides are straight line segments.)

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    5. Re:3D social network? by Plutonite · · Score: 1

      GP clearly must've never heard of the four color theorem (in graphical vertices).

    6. Re:3D social network? by everphilski · · Score: 1

      That's fine for you, me, Jane and Teresa, but what about Don? :) That's why we need the third dimension, man

    7. Re:3D social network? by benj_e · · Score: 1

      Not if all the points are equidistant from each other.

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    8. Re:3D social network? by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      I concede. I missed the part where you included yourself.

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  21. Re:I don't understand. by king-manic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't understand how virtual realities like this have become popular. Do people's real lives suck so badly that they need to frivolously spend money to create their own little world where things don't suck?

    some people knit. Some people have sex. Others create intricate simulated worlds... where they knit and have sex.

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  22. Re:I don't understand. by DaleGlass · · Score: 1

    I'm quite well hooked on it.

    For me it's something like the ultimate combination of a chat and a development platform. My development interests (reputation systems, moderation) also happen to require being part of something that has a decent userbase.

  23. Re:I don't understand. by Yold · · Score: 1

    Maybe think about it in terms of why The Sims is so popular. I actually remember reading about this guy a few weeks ago in News of The Weird that is a super-stud in Second Life, it was rather comical because he had a virtual marriage, and it sounded like he committed a lot of time to it.

    Yes, some people's lives suck that badly. Others just don't like reality, and still some do it just for fun. Its like drugs maybe? It is the reason people get addicted to WoW.

    It isn't about not meeting people people face-to-face, its the reason why I think people are drawn into WoW, Second Life, and some drugs (pot in particular), it is a social experience. You share a common interest with someone, and it acts a medium for social interaction.

  24. First Person Shopper? First Person Person? by stoicfaux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Normally I consider a Neuromancer type cyberspace to be completely useless way to locate and process data. Functionality > cool factor.

    However, combining it with Google Earth to enable "avatars being able to walk around on actual streets and enter real buildings to check out what's inside and socialize with other avatars" might almost vaguely be a good idea. It's one thing to shop online with a traditional web interface, but it's quite another 'enter' a store and talk in real time with other customers or store personnel. It changes online shopping from a 'research item, browse for lowest price, and buy online' task into a First Person Shopping experience. I find it disturbingly appealing for some reason.

    Combining a generic, omnipresent (i.e. non-Microsoft) video/3D conferencing network would be useful. Instant messaging is great but it's still just text. Video conferencing isn't ubiquitous enough to be useful. (The unwashed IM masses do not use it.) Upgrading instant messaging or chatrooms to a 'First Person Person' experience might take group communication and organization to a new level. Imagine what you could do with political meetings or neighborhood meetings.

    I'm not saying that actual face to face human interaction should be tossed out. A 'First Person' 3D avatar Google Earth could make it easier to attend tedious or 'mandatory' social organizing events such as neighborhood meetings to get petitions signed for new stop signs. Instead of having to rush home after work and fight traffic to make a 7pm neighborhood meeting (which discourages you from participating,) you can just login and participate. Sure you lose some of the social interaction (quality,) but you make up for it with quantity (more people can make it.)

  25. Re: meta virtual world by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

    Anything for the ability for me to pilot Ryu Hayabusa through a killing spree over a few MMORPGs.

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  26. Re:I don't understand. by geeknado · · Score: 1
    I think different people interact with places like SL for different reasons. While I personally don't find it engaging at all, several of my artier friends find it an interesting medium for expression...One, who makes in-game wings, has actually made several thousand dollars doing so, so I suppose that's another reason it's appealing to some-- commerce.

    Seriously, though, what's the difference between play on Second Life and any other form of escapism? Many people around the world spend a large quantity of time staring at a television...Are their lives inherently pathetic? What about people who put up various styles of vanity web pages(blogs, fan forums, etc)-- do their lives necessarily "suck"?

    I think that's the conceit that bothers me in what you're saying, the presumption that interacting with people socially in an online setting == a stunted real life. The two don't necessarily equate, as I'm sure you'd have to agree understanding that you're taking the time to comment /about/ such people's lives on an inherently geektastic online forum.

  27. Only A Matter Of Time by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's only a matter of time before SL-type worlds interoperate, and there are bridges/portals/stargates to let your avatar travel between all of them.

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    1. Re:Only A Matter Of Time by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      What, just like instant messengers? If something as simple as "sending a rich text message from one computer to another" can't interoperate across providers, who the hell is going to make 3D virtual worlds interoperate, when they have entirely different graphics engines?

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    2. Re:Only A Matter Of Time by Knara · · Score: 1

      I imagine someone(s) much smarter than I could come up with a standardized method whereby the data transmitted could be rendered at the other end in a way chosen by the program used to view and interact with it.

      Oh wait, that's XML, nevermind.

    3. Re:Only A Matter Of Time by switcha · · Score: 1
      Here's a start, for better or worse.

      http://www.koinup.com/

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    4. Re:Only A Matter Of Time by k386 · · Score: 1

      They can only be Stargates if I get to be Richard Dean Anderson.

    5. Re:Only A Matter Of Time by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Raph? Is that you?

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  28. google pages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one would appreciate it more if google ALLOWED(see? I'm not making it compulsory for your grandma) people to edit the HTML of their "google pages" instead of giving them a fixed layout and the ability to edit the html WITHIN the layout.

  29. Re:I don't understand. by superpulpsicle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This whole post is opinionated. Is like saying:

    - People's lives suck so much, they wish they were fighting wars. Hence the millions playing CoD, battlefield, quake online.

    - People are so unathletic, they are playing sports games online.

  30. Re:I don't understand. by sammyF70 · · Score: 0

    hmm .. some even read or watch REAL books and films, with fictional stories. Though I guess the more enlightened you are, the less you have to rely on material property ;)

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  31. Ok, here's the plan by renrutal · · Score: 0

    Phase 1: Build Google Earth

    Phase 2: Build My World on top of Google Earth

    Phase 3: Let the users create content that replicates the data in the World , take pictures, erect buildings, etc.

    Phase 4: When sufficiently advanced, advertise My World as World 2.0.

    Phase 5: Move the users to World 2.0. Plug cables in their heads, keep them fed with red liquids.

    Phase 6: Advertise more Green Computing, have the users donate their bodies to generate energy to feed the system.

    Phase 7: Sell virtual black leather and black shades.

    Phase n: ???

    Phase n +1: Profit? Google needs no stinkin' profit.

  32. A virtual interface to the real world by iabervon · · Score: 1

    I can just see it: a virtual world as the unifying interface for information about the real world, with news searchable by location and marked on the map. And current satellite images projected onto the virtual ground, allowing users to observe the real world in places they aren't physically located. And, above it all, bloggers looking down from their dirigibles, identifiable by their avatars' red capes and aviator goggles...

  33. First I've heard of it by jstomel · · Score: 1

    I'm at ASU and I haven't heard of any collaborations involving this. If it's true they're keeping it under tight wrap.

    1. Re:First I've heard of it by darrylxxx · · Score: 1

      They just didn't want your sort on it... ;-)

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    2. Re:First I've heard of it by preznick555 · · Score: 1

      http://www.asu.edu/myworld/ Login and fill out a survey to be considered for a beta test.

  34. Oh really...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...spending money and getting nothing to show for it."

    That's what happens when they try to get laid.

  35. Re:I don't understand. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand.

    You shouldn't be expected to, much in the same way that boomers don't understand computers or the generation before has trouble with answering machines and VCRs.

  36. Because coding the universe is fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, on second life, I can create matter, teleport, and invent new and fantastic things to do limited only by my coding abilities.

    All real life has going for it is better graphics and a more realistic physics engine.

    1. Re:Because coding the universe is fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't brag that being able to create matter and teleport is a plus and then praise real lifes more realistic physics engine.

  37. Re:I don't understand. by drydirt · · Score: 1

    I don't understand how virtual realities like this have become popular. Do people's real lives suck so badly that they need to frivolously spend money to create their own little world where things don't suck?

    I don't think it's that "real life sucks." I think it's that real life is difficult and uncertain. It's a hell of a lot of work and there's no guarantees it's all for nothing. These virtual worlds create a place where if you learn the rules of the game and put in your time you are guaranteed to accomplish... Whatever makes you stand out as better than the other "noob". In Second Life it's generating or buying cash to make and buy better stuff, in Warcraft it's grinding for gear to put others to shame... Whatever.

    Of course putting that effort into improving your real life is much more rewarding, but that feeling of pride because you accomplished something is much more difficult to attain. In these virtual worlds it's handed out like candy (or maybe like crack cocaine.) Sad as that may be.

  38. Re:I don't understand. by GroeFaZ · · Score: 1

    Fight or Flight are the natural responses to things we don't like. Some fight (especially if they have no realistic possibility to evade), others prefer to stay away from the whole mess and try to divert the mind with other things. Books, movies, alternate realities can really just be other words for the Flight response. Besides, even if you are perfectly fine with the state of things, then after you have hunted and gathered the proverbial food for the day, you can often choose to goof off. But unless you put yourself into a drug-induced coma (I won't even go into the sex thing here), our mind wants to be busy, because that's what it was designed for.

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  39. It's trivial to rival second life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Second life has zero scalability.

    When they started you could get 40 avatars in a zone.

    Now they have 100 times as many subscribers yet you still can't get many more people in a zone for a popular event. A few bigger machines can take double that, but that's the limit. It's totally destroyed second life's ability to host anything interesting.

    And here's the kicker: they have no interest in fixing it, because their income is based on keeping people in their home sims.

    Crap system, no concept of good engineering.

    Rock on Google.

  40. The order of things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First post
    Second Life
    Third teeth

  41. And Why exactly did Adobe kill Atmosphere?? by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

    if adobe had kept going with Atmo we could have had actual decent "worlds" going by now (and horror of horrors it was built to allow running your own server!!)

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  42. Oblig Bash Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And as we all know, IRC is just a multiplayer notepad ;)

    1. Re:Oblig Bash Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is - ofcourse - that there is no multiplayer notepad.
      But we DO have old school irc, making 3d irc redundant.
      Notepad is no substitute for irc

  43. Re:I don't understand. by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Do people's real lives suck so badly

    Mine does. :(

    that they need to frivolously spend money to create their own little world where things don't suck?

    Ah, but that's where the idea falls apart. The little virtual worlds suck, too.

    Many people out there just need to get laid. It's a lot cheaper than spending money...

    Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Oh, wait, you weren't kidding!

  44. Re:First Person Shopper? First Person Person? by dodobh · · Score: 1

    s/Neuromancer/Snowcrash/. Then rethink your comment.

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  45. Yes, the PR is masking the reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is coming from a different angle to your point, but it's still relevant to PR.

    The "vision" of Second Life as described by their CEO was very strongly about Second Life != First Life ... in other words, Second Life was to be a new experience, where you could create new worlds beyond the constraints of First Life, where communities would be free to lay down their own social rules. Philip Rosedale often used the word "metaverse" .... Second Life was going to be the start of that metaverse concept.

    Unfortunately, only the PR has remained from that nice vision. Second Life is now just First Life in disguise, full of lawyer crap and draconian Terms of Service and uncaring customer relations and the rule of political correctness. And they can't even get the technology right, it's falling apart and doesn't scale.

    So, the dream has gone, and only the PR is left. Google might as well take over.

  46. It's overcomplicating a concept. by Aslan72 · · Score: 1

    What makes facebook hot right now and the whole social networking scene on is that it allows people simple access to information they want. What makes SL hot is that it's entertaining. People aren't looking, necessairly, for information as much as they are for entertainment. Combinbing those two concepts and you get a world that is too public to be private in (who would want to escape in SL if they knew you were a 35 year old father of two?) and a social network that is too complex to just get information from. End Result? nominal flop.

  47. By now, it doesn't matter by fridgemagnet · · Score: 1

    There are these sort of comments on everything involving There, Second Life, the Sims, WoW, games generally, Myspace, blogs or hell, just the internet, and the same thing applies in each case.

    It doesn't matter that you don't get activity X and say it's crap and come up with some sort of pop sociology reason for it. People like it and have fun with it and they don't care that you don't.

    If you actually want to know, it might be an idea not to phrase your question as "tell me why you suck", and if you don't, why are you on the internet and not out there getting laid?

  48. For those who modded me informative... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    it was a joke. (just google for "harold hewick" and you'll see what i mean)

    1. Re:For those who modded me informative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just googled "harold hewick" and the second result listed is your post!

    2. Re:For those who modded me informative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      people mod funny posts "informative" or "insightful" for one of two reasons: sometimes it makes the joke funnier and/or they liked your joke so much they wanted you to get the karma. Slashdot doesn't give karma to funny mods.

    3. Re:For those who modded me informative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just googled "harold hewick" and the second result listed is your post!

      Confirmed! ROFL!

      Dragid Connections - dot .hack.
      It's 4 episodes and goes into detail about Harold "white haired upside down ... on .hackinfection second the ''broken man '' is really harold hewick the ...
      forums.dragid.com/archive/index.php/t-12088.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
      Slashdot | Google Testing "My World" Second Life Rival?
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      games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/25/1437249 - 5 hours ago - Similar pages

    4. Re:For those who modded me informative... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Slashdot doesn't give karma to funny mods

      It used to. How else do you think I got to 50 (AKA excellent)?

    5. Re:For those who modded me informative... by viruswatts · · Score: 1

      I just googled "harold hewick" and the second result listed is your post! Its #1 now!

      Personalized Results 1 - 10 of about 547 for Harold Hewick. (0.05 seconds)

      Slashdot | Google Testing "My World" Second Life Rival? The project will be lead by Dr. Harold Hewick, an expert in A.I. Rumours of beta-testers suddenly falling in coma after entering "the World" are completely ... games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/25/1437249&from=rss - 42k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
  49. Re:I don't understand. by droopy16 · · Score: 1

    why are you sitting in front of your computer typing original message and reading this message is a question I'd like to hear answer to. :)

  50. metaverse by N1ck0 · · Score: 1

    I swear for the past several years google has been taking its product strategy right out of the pages of Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash.

    I call dibs on creating the black sun.

    1. Re:metaverse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      er...
      we already had "Black Sun" in 1997. True; it was vaguely geometric shapes as "walls" and "furniture" and the avatars were all somewhat pixely and crude... but it was there. Anyone else remember the big pyramid?

      Course, then i left to homestead at Alpha :)

      now get off my virtual lawn!

      AC: work

    2. Re:metaverse by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      I'll start to worry when they build and deploy Reason.

  51. Re:I don't understand. by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

    Please, give me some insight into why sites/programs like Second Life pull such large clientèle numbers. That's the part I don't get. I'm seeking answers and getting nothing but mocked. Help me out here.

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  52. When do "me too" games ever succeed? by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

    How many WoW killers are out there? How many times has a follow up game ever been as successful as the game it's trying to imitate?

    1. Re:When do "me too" games ever succeed? by GameMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

      You do realise that WoW is a "me too" game, right? It copied games like Asheron's Call and Everquest which copied games like Sierra's "The Realm" and Meridian59 which copied games like the original Neverwinter Nights and MUDs...etc. Heck, even the storyline is a rip off of Warhammer, which borrows heavily from Tolkien.

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    2. Re:When do "me too" games ever succeed? by Knara · · Score: 1

      WoW is pretty much DAoC with better quest lines and poorer PVP.

    3. Re:When do "me too" games ever succeed? by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

      Right, but until then no one had the perfect storm of ingredients that WoW does. So, now everyone is trying to capture what ever that is and relabel it and it's not happening.

    4. Re:When do "me too" games ever succeed? by hickory-smoked · · Score: 1

      You're missing Knara's point, Dave... Google's project isn't any more of a "me too" than WoW is. Second Life is a awkward failure, the same way most early MMORPGs were, and Google is (theoretically) trying what Blizzard did to those games, which is to say make something worth while.

    5. Re:When do "me too" games ever succeed? by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

      Second Life might not be a monster success, but for whatever bizarre reason it gets tons of mainstream press.

  53. I guess... by __aailrp9629 · · Score: 1

    "Google Earth" was taken.

  54. the Grand Search-quisition by infonography · · Score: 1

    Personally I would not choose the I'm Feeling Lucky button on the iRACK. Worse yet the IComfy Chair, You might get tossed though the iWindows.

    But then I am a heretic.

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  55. Googlatrix Anyone by proficiovera · · Score: 1

    Ever see the Matrix? That's the next version of Google Earth. Now where did I put my tinfoil hat.

  56. Re:I don't understand. by Briareos · · Score: 1

    I don't know why people spend money on books or movies - is life so bad they need to escape into an alternative reality?

    You must be new here.

    And by here, I mean this planet... :D

    np: Modeselektor - The Wedding Toccata Theme (Happy Birthday!)
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  57. Why not My Third Life? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Then they could use a virtual world from StreetView in Google where they (to meet Canadian privacy and EU privacy restrictions) removed the images of people from the streets?

    But only if the advertising peoplebot avatars have Mute features on them - both individual ("Hi, I have Kotex, I feel fresh as a daisy!") and corporate ("I'm from Sony and ...") ...

    This would be far more fun.

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  58. the Google 4400 by A+non-mouse+Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty certain I saw that on an episode of the 4400. Does Google make Promicin?

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  59. protocol by wikinerd · · Score: 1

    Why spend time designing a new 3D world and not build a robust protocol to allow the interconnection of different 3D worlds into one super-3D world? We already have 3D worlds, and what we need now is to connect them all together.

  60. Re:I don't understand. by jrgruff · · Score: 1

    The nice thing about living next to ASU Tempe is that I can ride my bike down to the Google office on the campus and wave at the employees gathering research from students with which to build their virtual world, and the graphics are amazing. Riding around the real world is plenty fun for me. Not sure why a virtual one is necessary or useful in a world where some people don't have food at all let alone a computer.

  61. A real world MMORPG by BarneyL · · Score: 1

    This is going to turn out to be a pretty dull MMORPG.
    I hear you have to spend years farming Iraqi's in the hope of getting access to the Osama Bin Laden raid.

  62. Re:I don't understand. by devnulljapan · · Score: 1

    ...you forgot to add "And get off My Lawn!"

  63. virtual wreck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They can virtually watch me cook a pizza and send my driver out and a few minutes later the real driver shows up at the door. "

    Does this virtual driver drive like that guy in GTA?

  64. Re:First Person Shopper? First Person Person? by FailedTheTuringTest · · Score: 1

    In his novel Rainbow's End, Vernor Vinge describes society in 2025, with wearable computers, ubiquitous network connections, and contact lenses that overlay information on your field of vision in a sort of super heads-up-display. People send avatars to events and the avatars are visible to people who are physically present. People exchange instant-messages as a replacement for old-fashioned whispers, with the advantage that no-one can see that a whisper has taken place. People play games that intertwine virtual-reality and physical-reality: through their contact lenses they see other players who are physically present with changed appearances, as well as game-generated monsters and characters that are entirely virtual, and may have difficulty telling one from the other. In fact, people can change their entire view of reality by what basically amounts to applying a stylesheet to everything in your field of view or skinning your entire view of the world around you.

    I didn't actually care for the plot of the novel very much, but it won this year's Hugo for best novel so plenty of people did like it! It is an interesting concept.

  65. Testing ideas by kiracatgirl · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of these rumors about Google (the ones that aren't wishful thinking by fanboys) are actually released specifically so Google can see what people think of the ideas. The Google articles on /. are an excellent resource for the feasibility of Google adopting various ideas.

    1. Re:Testing ideas by p0ss · · Score: 1

      Well then, to my google overlords I welcome your matrix and hereby suplicate my credit card to your nominal subscription fee. bring it on!

  66. Sounds great to me by serutan · · Score: 1

    If they give me superpowers, cool sunglasses and a long black coat, I'm in!

  67. from here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  68. ASU *could* be collaborating? by Titoxd · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it *could* be collaborating... otherwise, annoying MyWorld messages wouldn't pop up every time you log onto a Windows computer in the common computing sites. ~~~~

  69. I'm at ASU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read the article this morning, and thought how awesome would it be! When I logged into myASU today, I saw an ad for it. So I filled out their survey! It consisted of a few questions about MySpace and other social sites, and how much you play certain categories of games. You must have an account with ASU to login and view it, but it's http://www.asu.edu/myworld.

  70. Just took the survey actually; check it out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quick Questions:

    1. How many hours do you spend on sites like Facebook, Friendster, or MySpace? If you've been living in a cave, and never use these sites, skip to question 5
    None, I've been living in a cave.
    Less than 1 hour per week.
    1 to 4 hours per week.
    Too many to count.
    2. Do you have friends on your MySpace or Facebook that you've never met in person?
    No, I've met them all in person.
    There are some I haven't met but most I have met in person.
    I've never met most of my friends on those sites.
    I've never met any of the people in my friend lists.
    3. If your friend list was a recipe, how many of these would you need for ingredients?
    'Friends' I've only 'met' online.
    Friends who were lucky enough too have actually hung out with me in person.
    Anyone in the fam.
    4. Can anyone stalk your site, or do you have it filtered for friends only?
    Private - I spent a lot of time on that 'About Me' section and you have to be my friend to earn to read it.
    Public - I like the idea that people creep on my site.
    5. How many of these other self-promoting sites are you into? (check all that apply)
    Personal Blog (like Blogger or LiveJournal).
    Online Photo Account (like Flickr or Photobucket).
    Your own hand made website complete with bells and whistles.
    6. How often do you surf the wave of the web?
    Wait, is it a web or a wave?
    When I need to religiously check MySpace on Friday's.
    Ever so often when I gotta get my YouTube fix.
    Let's just say, I have a modem in my bathroom.
    7. Which of the following have you spent more than one hour per week in? (check all that apply)
    There
    Sims Online
    Habbo Hotel or RuneScape
    Second Life
    IMVU
    Puzzle Pirates
    8. What on-line games have you played for more than one hour per week? (check all that apply)
    Doom, Halo, Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, or other first person shooters.
    Everquest, World of Warcraft, Phantasy Star Online, etc.
    Age of Empires, Asheron's Call, Counterstrike, etc.
    Flight simulators or racing games.
    9. How often do you have instant messaging sessions with others?
    Never touch the stuff.
    1-3 times per week.
    A little bit every day.
    A whole lot every day.

    Background Information:

    1. What's your chromosome arrangement?
    It's A Boy.

  71. Re:I don't understand. by WhoBeDaPlaya · · Score: 1

    If you're a grad student, yes! ;)

  72. Re:I don't understand. by droopy16 · · Score: 1

    I did give you the answer - you're doing the same thing here on slashdot, except there's no 3D. Instead of doing house chores/going out for a beer/taking care of your kids/planning career/etc. - you (like me) sit here and type away questions/answers to obvious things.

  73. Well the cool thing about this technology is.. by nephridium · · Score: 1

    You won't need to pay hundreds of bucks to do that exact same thing half way across the world. You could pop in anywhere and even be present in different locations at the same time (someone mentioned the IRC analogy above), while not worrying how to get there and back home, thus saving time, money etc.

    This is the next step up from using the letters/telegraph/telephone or any invention designed to save us time by allowing communication without requiring us to be physically present.

    The difference to IRC is that it's more intuitive (read: easier to use for Joe and Jane Schmoe) and in the future might allow for many cool features to be added, e.g. showing your clients (say, in Japan, France and Brazil) a product prototype (that was automatically digitized after you recorded it with a camera) and asking for their opinions.

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  74. A company called... by PietjeJantje · · Score: 1

    I'm more worried about the a company that wants to crush, or if that fails, buy, everything and move everywhere that tends to be successful, and they ain't called Microsoft. In their important quest to sell more ads and get more eyeballs, year after year, Google has to do this and use their vast resources to crush everybody else. I never build products for the Windows paltform, either you'll fail, or you'll succeed, MS will crush you, and you'll fail. This seems to be the entity Google is thriving for to be on the Internet.

  75. Re:I don't understand. by stupid_is · · Score: 1

    If you don't like Second Life, try this site instead.

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  76. Dear Google by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    Give me:

    An engine like Neverwinter Nights, that allows me to create a space, script it, add NPCs, items, set rules, give it a story (if i want). Allow me to make this realm instantial (for single players or groups) or shared (everyone in one instance). Allow me to publish this realm. Allow players to rate each others realms. Popular realms get hosting. Popular designers get more space. Connect the realms through a system of portals, or a hub realm.

    Do this and you'll have a WoW killer.

    i could design this in greater detail for a few bucks or if i get to put my name on it.

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  77. This isn't the Metaverse, this is Inscape. by argent · · Score: 1

    Second Life is the Metaverse in Snow Crash and the Other Plane in True Names.

    This is more like Inscape in Ventus and Persistence. Another view of reality, rather than a virtual reality.

  78. Re:I don't understand. by Library+Spoff · · Score: 1

    The point i was trying to quickly make (I'm overrun at work for the first time and not coping... But that's another issue!) is that Using Second Life is no different from reading or watching tv going to the movies etc. It's just a different way of escaping.

    There's nothing wrong with it...

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