Within limits of course, they can do whatever they want. This will either hurt them by losing too many customers, or make their network better for all involved. I can't see it making a huge difference anyway. Worst case, they lose a small percentage of people who will be upset by their decision, IMHO. I don't see it making a huge impact on bandwidth either, since people will still be leeching away. Most *my* bandwidth goes to downloading, not uploading.
My computer room stays eternally messy. All attempts to clean the room lead to more crap being piled up.
A few months back, I tossed out a few old 486's. Next thing I know, I got a 4U rackmount Pentium Pro. ($25 on ebay!)
Then, I straightened up the room, getting the floor completedly clean. So my wife comes and dumps all my crap that's been piling up in the living room.
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The poster did not provide how he came about the final TCO for each solution.
Another problem is, I've noticed (totally anecdotal) that the longer people to wait to upgrade, the higher the end-TCO will ACTUALLY be. After it gets so old that nobody supports it anymore, it ends up requiring a drastic solution to replace. I'm not suggesting you fall into the Microsoft trap, but planned upgrades and/or "checkpoints" would really help.
I had a friend who worked for Disney in the IT department. They had a IBM PS/2 box running an OS/2 application that worked fine, but they had no more support for it. It was a critical piece of software that had been developed in house 15 years prior. At first glance, you'd think the TCO for the application wasn't much, because they hadn't had the need to replace the machine or anything for at least 10 years. They couldn't get replacement parts, and the software technology couldn't be adapted for their new integrated systems. So what happened? They spent $10 million on new system to replace something that originally cost them a couple grand in hardware and a few months of devel time.
The only way this would even begin to work is if MS's implementation is readable by every OS. The generation of the PDF is one thing, but its sucess is because it is easily accessed on every platform. Not only that, but since its become a household standard, free alternatives exist to generate the actual documents.
MS isn't competing with Adobe, they are competing with a standard.
Nah, go around and figure out everybody who's linked to their website(s) and alert AA what these hooligans are up to. Its bad for business if everybody knows your website address, ya know.
That is actually one of the few things that makes sense. The company is based out of Texas, so they are going by local law.
It protects them from having a seperate agreement for every locality that might access and use the site. Now, wether or not Texas version of law is any better or worse on the matter, thats up for debate.
This is one of those large gray areas that has arrisen because of the internet. You have a company that is in Location A, and is going by 1 set of laws, but you are in Location B, which has a set of conflicting laws. Which apply?
Sometimes it would appear really easy to answer. Say there is a website out there with pictures of naked 14 year olds. It is hosted in a country which has a low age of consent that allows such content. Now someone from the US goes and views those pictures. Clearly the US law apply's to the person doing the viewing, and that person is acting in an illegal manor.
The problem I see in their statement about using Texas Law is that American Airlines does business in many municipalities. But perhaps that is another reason why they put that clause in there.
Clear win for Verizon, but thats all. It doesn't do any good for us in general. You think Verizon is going to pay that money back to the actual users affected?? hahahha
Not only that, but spammers are like crack dealers. The potential for huge profits are so high that as soon as one dealer gets arrested, another pops up in his place.
The only way to "win" is to create a secure infrastructure and/or methology that helps keep from spam happening in the first place.
Myself and a coworker witnessed a McDonald's employee overcharging people in the drive thru.
She would ring up their order, and tell them it costs $1 more than what it actually did. She wouldn't give a receipt, so you rarely really noticed. She would pocket the extra buck, and we estimated that she was probably making an extra $100 a day doing this.
We complained to the manager several times, but she never got fired. Who knows what was really going on.
Incidently, this was AFTER the time when all other McDonald's had switched to the "viewboard" so you could see your order and your total before you got to the window.
What this really does is set a bad example for everyone. Just because something which is illegal and involves a computer, doesn't make it "cybercrime".
I wonder if these guys also send the FBI out every time they find out someone has free HBO.
It takes a sense of humor to live in NJ because the state is one big joke.:)
I live in Northern Jersey, and have to say I don't hear much people with the Joisey lisp either. It must just be all the Boston people who moved here who don't pronounce their R's.
FYI for people who don't live here, the smokestacks of Newark are well.. in Newark. Once you get away from Newark and the immediate NYC metro area (Hudson County, etc) it gets really nice. Before I moved here, I had only seen Newark and the view from Manhattan.
For those of you who are interested in seeing the nature side of NJ, check out the NJ division of Parks and Forestry. http://www.state.nj.us/dep/forestry/parknj/
So why not just back away and say "No thanks"? Seriously.. MS came back with an offer, it wasn't good for their situation, so they should just walk away from it.
There are other options. Trust me. I've worked with non profits before, and there are always grant giving orgs out there, as well as computer recycling places.
The public blasting these guys did is all about PR.
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The link comes up dead, but who knows.
Within limits of course, they can do whatever they want. This will either hurt them by losing too many customers, or make their network better for all involved. I can't see it making a huge difference anyway. Worst case, they lose a small percentage of people who will be upset by their decision, IMHO. I don't see it making a huge impact on bandwidth either, since people will still be leeching away. Most *my* bandwidth goes to downloading, not uploading.
My computer room stays eternally messy. All attempts to clean the room lead to more crap being piled up.
A few months back, I tossed out a few old 486's. Next thing I know, I got a 4U rackmount Pentium Pro. ($25 on ebay!)
Then, I straightened up the room, getting the floor completedly clean. So my wife comes and dumps all my crap that's been piling up in the living room.
For those in apartments, you may want to check out Mary Appelhof's worm compost info.
The biggest issue is that Stallman is an idealist. Torvalds just wanted a working Unix-line OS.
HURD has been in the works for over 20 years. This is starting to sound like "delays" on the Big Dig.
I think you've hit the nail on the head here.
The poster did not provide how he came about the final TCO for each solution.
Another problem is, I've noticed (totally anecdotal) that the longer people to wait to upgrade, the higher the end-TCO will ACTUALLY be. After it gets so old that nobody supports it anymore, it ends up requiring a drastic solution to replace. I'm not suggesting you fall into the Microsoft trap, but planned upgrades and/or "checkpoints" would really help.
I had a friend who worked for Disney in the IT department. They had a IBM PS/2 box running an OS/2 application that worked fine, but they had no more support for it. It was a critical piece of software that had been developed in house 15 years prior. At first glance, you'd think the TCO for the application wasn't much, because they hadn't had the need to replace the machine or anything for at least 10 years. They couldn't get replacement parts, and the software technology couldn't be adapted for their new integrated systems. So what happened? They spent $10 million on new system to replace something that originally cost them a couple grand in hardware and a few months of devel time.
The only way this would even begin to work is if MS's implementation is readable by every OS. The generation of the PDF is one thing, but its sucess is because it is easily accessed on every platform. Not only that, but since its become a household standard, free alternatives exist to generate the actual documents.
MS isn't competing with Adobe, they are competing with a standard.
Speaking of jokes...
:)
They also say "Everything's bigger in Texas".
Even contracts.
Nah, go around and figure out everybody who's linked to their website(s) and alert AA what these hooligans are up to. Its bad for business if everybody knows your website address, ya know.
That is actually one of the few things that makes sense. The company is based out of Texas, so they are going by local law.
It protects them from having a seperate agreement for every locality that might access and use the site. Now, wether or not Texas version of law is any better or worse on the matter, thats up for debate.
This is one of those large gray areas that has arrisen because of the internet. You have a company that is in Location A, and is going by 1 set of laws, but you are in Location B, which has a set of conflicting laws. Which apply?
Sometimes it would appear really easy to answer. Say there is a website out there with pictures of naked 14 year olds. It is hosted in a country which has a low age of consent that allows such content. Now someone from the US goes and views those pictures. Clearly the US law apply's to the person doing the viewing, and that person is acting in an illegal manor.
The problem I see in their statement about using Texas Law is that American Airlines does business in many municipalities. But perhaps that is another reason why they put that clause in there.
In that case, time to switch over to the Timex Sinclair :)
Let's help them sue to have every reference to their website removed from the Internet.
Clear win for Verizon, but thats all. It doesn't do any good for us in general. You think Verizon is going to pay that money back to the actual users affected?? hahahha
Not only that, but spammers are like crack dealers. The potential for huge profits are so high that as soon as one dealer gets arrested, another pops up in his place.
The only way to "win" is to create a secure infrastructure and/or methology that helps keep from spam happening in the first place.
Give IBM a few months, and I'm sure they would be more than willing to sell them some CPU time on their on demand supercomputer.
So if an entomologist is involved in collecting and preserving evidence, is it considered "bugcrime"? :)
Myself and a coworker witnessed a McDonald's employee overcharging people in the drive thru.
She would ring up their order, and tell them it costs $1 more than what it actually did. She wouldn't give a receipt, so you rarely really noticed. She would pocket the extra buck, and we estimated that she was probably making an extra $100 a day doing this.
We complained to the manager several times, but she never got fired. Who knows what was really going on.
Incidently, this was AFTER the time when all other McDonald's had switched to the "viewboard" so you could see your order and your total before you got to the window.
When I was younger, I had dreamed up a transportation system using this methodology.
Amazingly, my idea was almost identical to this, except I didn't really come up with a good accelleration method such as hte maglev.
Too bad at age 10 I wasn't thinking about patents.
What this really does is set a bad example for everyone. Just because something which is illegal and involves a computer, doesn't make it "cybercrime".
I wonder if these guys also send the FBI out every time they find out someone has free HBO.
Well, I feel good that I'm running on AMD at least. Next best thing will be when I can switch to Apple equipment.
My wife is a big fan of Weird NJ magazine.
After learning about "Geocaching" (a new hobby of finding/hiding things and posting the GPS coordinates) led me to this guy's website...
http://www.gpswnj.com/
It takes the Weird NJ info one step further, and actually provides GPS coordinates for places he's been.
It takes a sense of humor to live in NJ because the state is one big joke. :)
I live in Northern Jersey, and have to say I don't hear much people with the Joisey lisp either. It must just be all the Boston people who moved here who don't pronounce their R's.
FYI for people who don't live here, the smokestacks of Newark are well.. in Newark. Once you get away from Newark and the immediate NYC metro area (Hudson County, etc) it gets really nice. Before I moved here, I had only seen Newark and the view from Manhattan.
For those of you who are interested in seeing the nature side of NJ, check out the NJ division of Parks and Forestry. http://www.state.nj.us/dep/forestry/parknj/
Dude, your gettin a big iron!
So why not just back away and say "No thanks"? Seriously.. MS came back with an offer, it wasn't good for their situation, so they should just walk away from it.
There are other options. Trust me. I've worked with non profits before, and there are always grant giving orgs out there, as well as computer recycling places.
The public blasting these guys did is all about PR.
Uh, no, just you.