The AC is right, market share does not measure quality. It measures your ability to make people run your system, which (as Windoze abundantly shows) has nothing to do with quality.
Will hardware drivers be developed faster and more reliably with a microkernel? That seems to be the biggest hurdle in reliable OS development these days... Anyone have a good answer for that, I honestly don't know.
I can't honestly tell you the difference between developing drivers for microkernels and monolithic, because I haven't worked with a monolithic enough to know. However, I'm spearheading an effort to develop a true uniform driver interface (not corporate crap like UDI) called the Extensible Driver Interface. It's an API for driver coding whose aim is to allow driver development for a stable platform across kernels, thereby taking much of the pain and suffering out of bootstrapping a new operating system into the Real World.
The framework wraps kernel and driver functionality up into "classes", which can actually be written in any language capable of exporting functions from a shared library (ie: exporting functions compiled to binary in a C-like protocol). A standard set of classes exist for the kernel to supply to the driver, drivers will (RSN) be able to implement one of a standard set of classes representing driver types, and either kernel or driver can expose any other class they like. This means that non-standard functionality can be added or required of any kernel or driver as long as standard functionality is exposed, freeing OS and driver developers to code what they damn well want to.
Note that this is a pure API, it doesn't care what kind of environment drivers run in. It only cares that the correct function calls are accessible, so it can be used under a micro- or macro- kernel.
The most recent tarball of headers and documentation is located at EDI tarball, and the next revision (coming soon, when I clean up the example driver) includes easier communication (via classes rather than serialized streams) and an toy example driver written in C++.
I can be contacted about the project (to give me advice, suggestions, flames, etc) in #edi on WyldRyde, or at the email address listed for my Slashdot account (eligottlieb@gmail.com). Any constructive criticism, or even criticism bordering on flame that still makes a point, is very welcome. Please, please, PLEASE respond with some kind of idea(s) and/or code.
Many are producing useful things. The rest are trying to cover up the fact that we can only produce so much useful stuff before crossing the line into overproduction.
Precise numbers vary with the state of the economy.
What we consider wrong is that people actually prefer spending entire days or nights in cubicle-sized pods surfing the Net to the alternatives. There are supposed to be far better alternatives!
"nikkud" (in some dialects, "nikdot") (noun, plural, female) - The vowel marks used to make written Hebrew readable by non-native speakers. Everyday Israelis, however, use them so rarely most couldn't tell you the vowels to attach to a given word (since there are some nikkud with identical meanings).
Define "too poor". My family is nowhere near the objective standard for "poor", but Ivy League schools might have a different idea.
Ehh. I can always go to Stanford, MIT, CMU, RPI, or UC Berkeley instead. Note: This is not arrogance. Since I already know I want to major in CS, why put up with any but the best CS schools?
A group where the options are Doctor, Lawyer, Scientist, or Computer (pseudo) Scientist, will produce far fewer CS majors than a group with fewer options.
Don't they make the kiddes read 1984 anymore? They do make kids read "1984" - As an example of life in a totalitarian regime like Soviet Russia. And only the first chapter of "1984".
Kids read the first chapter of "1984" and associate it with the dead Soviet society, rather than with a living danger to our own world as Orwell intended.
Funny, but if Napoleon Dynamite was more awesome a remake than any actual remake could ever be, then the original "Revenge of the Nerds" will kill anyone who lays eyes on it.
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Even better, some say Bush may simply carry fowards into a "permanent second term".
The AC is right, market share does not measure quality. It measures your ability to make people run your system, which (as Windoze abundantly shows) has nothing to do with quality.
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Will hardware drivers be developed faster and more reliably with a microkernel? That seems to be the biggest hurdle in reliable OS development these days... Anyone have a good answer for that, I honestly don't know.
I can't honestly tell you the difference between developing drivers for microkernels and monolithic, because I haven't worked with a monolithic enough to know. However, I'm spearheading an effort to develop a true uniform driver interface (not corporate crap like UDI) called the Extensible Driver Interface. It's an API for driver coding whose aim is to allow driver development for a stable platform across kernels, thereby taking much of the pain and suffering out of bootstrapping a new operating system into the Real World.
The framework wraps kernel and driver functionality up into "classes", which can actually be written in any language capable of exporting functions from a shared library (ie: exporting functions compiled to binary in a C-like protocol). A standard set of classes exist for the kernel to supply to the driver, drivers will (RSN) be able to implement one of a standard set of classes representing driver types, and either kernel or driver can expose any other class they like. This means that non-standard functionality can be added or required of any kernel or driver as long as standard functionality is exposed, freeing OS and driver developers to code what they damn well want to.
Note that this is a pure API, it doesn't care what kind of environment drivers run in. It only cares that the correct function calls are accessible, so it can be used under a micro- or macro- kernel.
The most recent tarball of headers and documentation is located at EDI tarball, and the next revision (coming soon, when I clean up the example driver) includes easier communication (via classes rather than serialized streams) and an toy example driver written in C++.
I can be contacted about the project (to give me advice, suggestions, flames, etc) in #edi on WyldRyde, or at the email address listed for my Slashdot account (eligottlieb@gmail.com). Any constructive criticism, or even criticism bordering on flame that still makes a point, is very welcome. Please, please, PLEASE respond with some kind of idea(s) and/or code.
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Many are producing useful things. The rest are trying to cover up the fact that we can only produce so much useful stuff before crossing the line into overproduction.
Precise numbers vary with the state of the economy.
Compilable dynamic language which has both the speed and capability for web apps? I have two words for you: "Common" and "Lisp".
What we consider wrong is that people actually prefer spending entire days or nights in cubicle-sized pods surfing the Net to the alternatives. There are supposed to be far better alternatives!
Right... McCarthy, FBI spying on peace groups, Watergate, need I list more?
Oh, you mean like NeWS, which was actually designed for efficient and elegant distributed applications?
Nebekh it was never open-sourced.
"nikkud" (in some dialects, "nikdot") (noun, plural, female) - The vowel marks used to make written Hebrew readable by non-native speakers. Everyday Israelis, however, use them so rarely most couldn't tell you the vowels to attach to a given word (since there are some nikkud with identical meanings).
Define "too poor". My family is nowhere near the objective standard for "poor", but Ivy League schools might have a different idea.
Ehh. I can always go to Stanford, MIT, CMU, RPI, or UC Berkeley instead. Note: This is not arrogance. Since I already know I want to major in CS, why put up with any but the best CS schools?
This is the first post I've read not by dada21 to drip with uber-capitalist the-market-will-cure-cancer-and-death bullshit.
A group where the options are Doctor, Lawyer, Scientist, or Computer (pseudo) Scientist, will produce far fewer CS majors than a group with fewer options.
Which explains the lack of Ashkenazim.
Damnit! I'm applying to them, and NOW I find out that they pad grades!
Great, my easy-admit school will be Ivy League. >:-)
Ah. Simplicity of implementation over doing the Right Thing. Where've we heard this before?
Well for instance, hardware optimized for speedy context switches would make microkernels something like an order of magnitude faster.
I'm sorry, but Real Men code in Ancient Hebrew (an elegant 2 verb tenses) without vowels.
God's powers are never held to include overriding free will. He cut himself off from that deliberately.
Have you considered the purpose of the entire Armageddon story might have been to make people fear every tyrant as though he really were "The Beast"?
Don't they make the kiddes read 1984 anymore?
They do make kids read "1984" - As an example of life in a totalitarian regime like Soviet Russia. And only the first chapter of "1984".
Kids read the first chapter of "1984" and associate it with the dead Soviet society, rather than with a living danger to our own world as Orwell intended.
Actually, the last socially prejudicial term you can get away with using is "teenager".
Sadly, the lower four all go to my ex-school in large numbers. We're a full 20 years behind the times.
Funny, but if Napoleon Dynamite was more awesome a remake than any actual remake could ever be, then the original "Revenge of the Nerds" will kill anyone who lays eyes on it.
Shouldn't it just read "RFC666"?
"Wiretapping makes people gay."
Genius. You're a fucking genius! That argument will regain every last civil liberty, we just have to argue that civil liberties make us heterosexual!
To you and my AC friend, I recommend reading dada21's actual response. Oops, my theory was successfully predictive, wasn't it?
Alertness != calm. Everyone is made alert by caffeine, but only certain types of people become calmer.