Care to back this with a real example? I use both C# and C++ on daily basis and still have to face a situation where I had to use C++ because it couldn't be done in C#, once you decide.NET is ok for your application.
After being mored in the ugly world of superb performance & endless possibilities of C++, Win32, occasionally MFC, OLE/COM and other Three Letter Abominations, I have finally seen the light.
I also heard a story about the CEO of Virgin Atlantic (charles bronson?? or was he an actor, God I have bad memory for names) traveling with the public or playing the role of a flight attendent/steward and listen to customers. One Indian guy had ordered vegetarian meals and it was not available. Charles was playing steward on that flight. He made an unscheduled landing at a nearby airport and rented a limo to take the passenger to an expensive Indian joint and flew him first class to complete the journey.
Must have delighted all the other passengers on that flight.
You must be cooler than cool if the pyramids are just a fruit stand for you. They're a bit more than a site where you need to read the plaque to understand what is so special.
100 years ago nobody would have beleived that putting a clock on an airplane and flying it around at 600mph would have changed how it kept time. Then in 1905 Einstein changed that, and 50 years later the US Navy verified that yes, infact, you can measure relatavistic time dilation using conventional aircraft.
Like, he went back from 1907 to 1905, flying around really fast?
Anybody who has tried moving/renaming files or directories in CVS can easily be sold on Subversion. Bonus points in Subversion's command line client being syntax-similar to the CVS client.
Actually I was considering Subversion for a while, but the deficiencies of externals compared to CVS modules killed my enthusiasm. We have a bunch of overlapping projects and I just don't see how to handle that reasonably in SVN.
I supposed your thinking went along these lines, just wanted to make sure before I comment on it.
First, since you're trying to establish a tradeoff between obedience and competence, you should have stressed "if you can't get his buy-in" part - getting rid of people just for being realistic is, simply, wrong.
Second, giving priority to method (or process, or standards compliance or whatever) over creativity, being realistic (or however you call it) is not the best solution for every case. It is if your process is optimal, i.e. everything is perfect in your environment and you just need to replace an odd wheel here or there, but if you are in the process of establishing a process, getting rid of competent people who might object and replacing them with yes-men (or clueless enthusiasts) will leave you with a formal shell around nothing. You'll simply have no *real* feedback on where your system is going.
You can do that by culling those developers who are realistic about development practices and by augmenting the remaining programmers with new hires who are just as standards-oriented as you are.
I didn't get this; you are suggesting to get rid of realistic people in order to introduce standards-compliant practices?
I'd say the answer to that 'either/or' question is, as always, it depends.
It depends on what you need to do.
For everyday browsing/email/word processing, yes, internet is more important than underlying OS. For other things, it is not.
What I found interesting were the books these guys listed as favourites or recently read. Hofstadter, Dennet, Dawkins, Diamond, Gaiman, Vonnegut, Orwell... are all my favourites too. Strange no one mentioned Pinker, though.
1) Windows is extremely unstable and it BSODs every an hour or so. You have to reinstall it every month, there is no other way around it. Me, I switched over to Linux in 1997 and never looked back.
2) Windows administration is royal PITA; you can't do jack shit and everything is so confusing and convoluted. Every time I have to touch a Windoze box (once in three months or so) I feel so frustrated. Me, I don't run Windows anywhere.
3) NT is a dead end OS, it's inherently flawed. They should switch over to Linux/BSD/Whatever like Apple did. I mean, if Apple could do it, why Microsoft can't?
4) Why is Office so important? OO is getting better. And there is GIMP, yeah.
Your point is what I was implicitly saying - as given tech becomes more complex, it takes more & more enthusiasm (and tools) to be able to do anything comparable to standards of the day.
You could easily make a Pacman (, Space Invaders,...) clone in 1983 and not be much worse than the average on the market. Today, this is a non-starter. The same goes for the car fixing analogy.
Why do you need to run antivirus & antispyware? I have 4 Windows boxes at home and only one has antivirus installed (my wife's) for the sole reason she might click on something she should not. Firefox + NoScript is all I use and I never had a single problem with viruses/spyware. Before Firefox I used locked down IE. My home network sits behind BSD machine acting as router/firewall - all the security I need. BTW, I agree with GP, FreeBSD is joy to administer & use. I toyed with various Linux distros, stumbled upon FreeBSD and never looked back.
Library of Alexandria was established by Greek dynasty and has little to do with ancient Egyptian civilization, about which, btw, we indeed knew very little before Napoleon's Egyptian Expedition.
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If writing a line of text is your measuring stick, drop the whole 'computer language' part. Use a pen.
Achieving mass mediocrity in terms of programming skill is a great thing given the fact masses started at zero.
BTW, at work I have an ancient microwave you need to study the manual first in order to do the simplest thing. It is extremely feature rich though.
Care to back this with a real example? I use both C# and C++ on daily basis and still have to face a situation where I had to use C++ because it couldn't be done in C#, once you decide .NET is ok for your application.
After being mored in the ugly world of superb performance & endless possibilities of C++, Win32, occasionally MFC, OLE/COM and other Three Letter Abominations, I have finally seen the light.
C# is beautiful.
Faster, like, your Excel flies? Or your %TheGameOfTheDay% flies?
OS in itself is useless.
Must have delighted all the other passengers on that flight.
...it's not worth bothering, since at 2.25G it will never be profitable.
You must be cooler than cool if the pyramids are just a fruit stand for you.
They're a bit more than a site where you need to read the plaque to understand what is so special.
Like, he went back from 1907 to 1905, flying around really fast?
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Well, that's what they paid for. Anyone thought they threw all that cash away just to replace Vista with SuSe?
Actually I was considering Subversion for a while, but the deficiencies of externals compared to CVS modules killed my enthusiasm. We have a bunch of overlapping projects and I just don't see how to handle that reasonably in SVN.
I supposed your thinking went along these lines, just wanted to make sure before I comment on it.
First, since you're trying to establish a tradeoff between obedience and competence, you should have stressed "if you can't get his buy-in" part - getting rid of people just for being realistic is, simply, wrong.
Second, giving priority to method (or process, or standards compliance or whatever) over creativity, being realistic (or however you call it) is not the best solution for every case. It is if your process is optimal, i.e. everything is perfect in your environment and you just need to replace an odd wheel here or there, but if you are in the process of establishing a process, getting rid of competent people who might object and replacing them with yes-men (or clueless enthusiasts) will leave you with a formal shell around nothing. You'll simply have no *real* feedback on where your system is going.
I didn't get this; you are suggesting to get rid of realistic people in order to introduce standards-compliant practices?
So if you come, say, next Monday morning, you'll have to wait until all ten of them shop?
Tough.
Non-Turkish controlled area?
That's Republic of Cyprus for you, sans "area currently inaccessible due to Turkish occupation".
I'd say the answer to that 'either/or' question is, as always, it depends.
It depends on what you need to do.
For everyday browsing/email/word processing, yes, internet is more important than underlying OS. For other things, it is not.
What I found interesting were the books these guys listed as favourites or recently read. Hofstadter, Dennet, Dawkins, Diamond, Gaiman, Vonnegut, Orwell... are all my favourites too.
Strange no one mentioned Pinker, though.
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1) Windows is extremely unstable and it BSODs every an hour or so. You have to reinstall it every month, there is no other way around it. Me, I switched over to Linux in 1997 and never looked back.
2) Windows administration is royal PITA; you can't do jack shit and everything is so confusing and convoluted. Every time I have to touch a Windoze box (once in three months or so) I feel so frustrated. Me, I don't run Windows anywhere.
3) NT is a dead end OS, it's inherently flawed. They should switch over to Linux/BSD/Whatever like Apple did. I mean, if Apple could do it, why Microsoft can't?
4) Why is Office so important? OO is getting better. And there is GIMP, yeah.
I support this attitude and would like to inform the potential employers I won't sell for less than $1.5 million.
Monad is one of few really interesting & innovative bits in Vista so please, stop bashing it.
Anyone else found this bit funny?
Your point is what I was implicitly saying - as given tech becomes more complex, it takes more & more enthusiasm (and tools) to be able to do anything comparable to standards of the day.
...) clone in 1983 and not be much worse than the average on the market. Today, this is a non-starter.
You could easily make a Pacman (, Space Invaders,
The same goes for the car fixing analogy.
Why do you need to run antivirus & antispyware? I have 4 Windows boxes at home and only one has antivirus installed (my wife's) for the sole reason she might click on something she should not. Firefox + NoScript is all I use and I never had a single problem with viruses/spyware. Before Firefox I used locked down IE.
My home network sits behind BSD machine acting as router/firewall - all the security I need.
BTW, I agree with GP, FreeBSD is joy to administer & use. I toyed with various Linux distros, stumbled upon FreeBSD and never looked back.
Library of Alexandria was established by Greek dynasty and has little to do with ancient Egyptian civilization, about which, btw, we indeed knew very little before Napoleon's Egyptian Expedition.