People dont write programs for them enough. I believe that is the ONLY reason.
No way. For many distros, you get HUNDREDS of applications (often even THOUSANDS) right out of the box.
There are two major issues:
- Hardware support
Want to run that $30 inkjet? Good luck.
Want to run that $50 scanner? Good luck. You will have to hunt down firmware and load it up (firmware which SHOULD be flashed onto the device itself in the first place but isn't)
Want to sync your PocketPC/Cellphone/etc.? Good luck. Using your cellphone as a modem is a cinch - plug and play (easier than it is in Windows) but syncing your address book or retrieving photos is a different story
Want to use that WiFi card? Good luck. You will have to hunt down firmware and load it up (firmware which SHOULD be flashed onto the device itself in the first place but isn't)
Want to register your cable modem? Sorry, Adelphia requires that you run their software to register. I had to practically insult a phone rep to get them to give me the URL to register the cable modem. They don't 'get' the fact that there are operating systems besides Windows.
- Microsoft's FUD
PHBs believe glossy cut sheets and shiny advertisements, even if the TCO and uptime stats are outright lies.
Actually there is one third hindrance:
- Attitudes: almost invariably the response to "why doesn't program $foo do X?" is "it's open source, code it yourself." Yeah, way to win converts there buddy!
Lotus: cars that shake their suspensions apart in the early '80s. Absolutely horrid QC for a while. Jaguar: Lucas Electric components leading to the "Off-dim-flicker" jokes even in Jaguar clubs and mailing lists.
What makes you think Japanese copied your engineering? Unlike British and American cars in the '80s when the Japanese began to dominate the auto market, Japanese cars actually WORKED. They didn't get where they did by copying your country or by copying America, but listening to engineering and manufacturing consultants whom no domestic manufacturers would listen to because improving processes is "too costly."
It has not failed; it was an amazing success. The problem is, they have probably peaked and they realized that they have nowhere to go but down unless they can somehow sabotage what will most likely be the new king of the hill.
Microsoft proposed C# as an open standard for anyone to lose and implement. If They try to sue anyone for implementing C# wouldn't they risk running into RICO and fraud issues?
The USPTO is ridiculous and honestly I would not worry about Microsoft's patents in the slightest; they have the sword of antitrust dangling over their heads.
Well he's accidentally correct; by continually reelecting incumbents we ARE loosing our rights, quite willingly; and by loosing our rights, we lose them.;)
Oh come on, Microsoft knows a good thing when they see it. Take Stacker for example; they liked it so much that they incorporated it into their own DOS and Windows 95 products. Ditto for Central Point AntiVirus -- and look at how well those two companies prosper. . . oh wait, I see your point.;)
They are reputedly grabbing random prose from the gutenberg project, so by scraping prose from hundreds of public domain works of literature they are throwing LOTS of stuff that could be found in ham into the emails, which over time will make bayesian filtering useless.
- No support (aside from 90-day installation support, ONLY for the retail, not OEM version)
- NO WARRANTY
- Effective elimination of your first sale doctrine rights
They know better to not claim "good software" and "good support" as Windows' strength(s).
by slackmaster2000 (820067) The experts are implying that image spam is a new trick, and in a large part responsible for the increase in spam lately. However, it seems to me that image spam is a very old trick that spam filters are trained for. My spam filters block all messages that only contain images, for instance. I suppose that a mixture of text and images is what is effective, but from the filter's point of view, it doesn't matter much that the image is there. The spammers have already been using tactics like this, with or without images, for a long time. And in my little corner of the universe, image spam hasn't been getting through any better than spam without images.
(I'll echo others here: where is the threading?)
The problem is, spam isn't just an image now. It's:
[ image ]
In a tube without warning the face of buddhist grew sullen Black angry mouths, the clouds swallowed up the obliged The air was lowhanging with suppressed excitement The account howled through the fires and sobbed and unfathomable in the secret of the holes The chime of the technology bell flowed out into the trooping The flirt notes the holy chant heavyduty with the storm like riotous angels with Satan At last the fraudulent of graphically lay vanquished. The grill paused in its course to do merriwether to God. emissary however alanding clap of thunder smote the sky The afloat chime of the scarves off with a a blockaders dissonance Demons seemed the brethren occupations plaque with gleaming eyes and trembling galileo the militant army of Godswept up finance stairs mumbling the ritual of the danger Infected fusty by the belle hysteria Aubrey britches of the refreshed Unearthly noises like a deftly parody of the holy freshly that marks the elevation of the claims alarmed the ears the hightech monks unspeakable blasphemies icons with to wetting Rain came down spoiled cataract closing of lightning chased one oblique like battling fiery dragons. dimensions jangled hideously out of hallucinating lining and pressed experiment The bands through issues more then mingle and rubbed both sparrowhawks
Throw in random prose, and you're not only tricking rules-based filters, but de-training bayesian filters.:(
Patents should be approved and managed like trademarks; in order to be valid and defendable one must show a serious attempt to keep it in active use, else it is expired/invalidated.
It's always wise to keep an eye out for alternatives - every three to six months I reevaluate SuSE, ubuntu, Mandriva, and other distributions to decide what to go with. I don't jump on every version of SuSE across the board but I have been buying every release. I will probably be buying 10.2.
My suggestion is this: if 10.2 looks like a good solution (or if you run SLES/SLED 10.1 or 11 or whatever is coming next) then go with it, if it meets your needs and the "license" is still reasonable.
I wouldn't worry too much about patents where Microsoft is concerned - they're too worried about hitting antitrust issues and if they use the Novell-Microsoft deal as a means to sabotage Linux, they stand a good chance of not only going the way of Standard Oil and Ma Bell, but also see the execs who engineered the mess facing charges under RICO.
10.2 is going to be a fairly clean release, and I expect next summer's release to be as well (Microsoft moves v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y and they couldn't ship a shell script on time if they tried), it's releases after that which should make you reexamine SuSE as your problem solver. So far it's been a great distribution, and even after all of the FUD (one of which made me consider removing SuSE from office machines, the KDE issue) the end result so far has been the distribution's getting better and better (10.0's samba integration issues aside).
What I'm saying is: don't abandon SuSE as a technical solution until there is a good technical or legal reason to do so, and with the DOJ's antitrust sword dangling over Microsoft's head, especially with the Demon^Hcrats' win yesterday, patent issues are hardly a concern.
How the HELL can Microsoft do that, since they touted.Net as an open standard to begin with (ESPECIALLY in thecase of C#)? They can hardly reneg on that at this point.
Ditto here. I love SuSE. I mean, I REALLY love SuSE.
Why?
An hour installing then you're ready to work, right out of the box, with very little tweaking required (unless you need support for bleeding-edge hardware).
However, Novell just made a deal with Vader, and at first it seemed like a great thing for Novell and Linux, but now Vader seems to be altering the terms of the deal, and I guess we are to pray that he does not alter it further.
Darth Vader: Novell Linux is the only Linux you can use, and the GPL does not apply to us. Novell: You said Linux would be safe and we could continue development under the GPL Darth Vader: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
In the cities, sure, I realize that, I do have friends who immigrated here from China. But China does not have all one billion of its residents living in cities. If they develop the way we did here in America and as more people in outlying communities get an education and decide to enter more modern careers, they will likely have longer commutes than we have here unless they move into the overcrowded cities.
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No way. For many distros, you get HUNDREDS of applications (often even THOUSANDS) right out of the box.
There are two major issues:
- Hardware support
Want to run that $30 inkjet? Good luck.
Want to run that $50 scanner? Good luck. You will have to hunt down firmware and load it up (firmware which SHOULD be flashed onto the device itself in the first place but isn't)
Want to sync your PocketPC/Cellphone/etc.? Good luck. Using your cellphone as a modem is a cinch - plug and play (easier than it is in Windows) but syncing your address book or retrieving photos is a different story
Want to use that WiFi card? Good luck. You will have to hunt down firmware and load it up (firmware which SHOULD be flashed onto the device itself in the first place but isn't)
Want to register your cable modem? Sorry, Adelphia requires that you run their software to register. I had to practically insult a phone rep to get them to give me the URL to register the cable modem. They don't 'get' the fact that there are operating systems besides Windows.
- Microsoft's FUD
PHBs believe glossy cut sheets and shiny advertisements, even if the TCO and uptime stats are outright lies.
Actually there is one third hindrance:
- Attitudes: almost invariably the response to "why doesn't program $foo do X?" is "it's open source, code it yourself." Yeah, way to win converts there buddy!
Lotus: cars that shake their suspensions apart in the early '80s. Absolutely horrid QC for a while.
Jaguar: Lucas Electric components leading to the "Off-dim-flicker" jokes even in Jaguar clubs and mailing lists.
What makes you think Japanese copied your engineering? Unlike British and American cars in the '80s when the Japanese began to dominate the auto market, Japanese cars actually WORKED. They didn't get where they did by copying your country or by copying America, but listening to engineering and manufacturing consultants whom no domestic manufacturers would listen to because improving processes is "too costly."
It has not failed; it was an amazing success. The problem is, they have probably peaked and they realized that they have nowhere to go but down unless they can somehow sabotage what will most likely be the new king of the hill.
Funny, I just built a dual core (Core 2) for myself and will be upgrading to quad core in January or February. The desktop is not dead by a long shot.
Microsoft proposed C# as an open standard for anyone to lose and implement. If They try to sue anyone for implementing C# wouldn't they risk running into RICO and fraud issues?
I violated a few months ago after a late-night bicycle ride. Come sue me!
The USPTO is ridiculous and honestly I would not worry about Microsoft's patents in the slightest; they have the sword of antitrust dangling over their heads.
Well he's accidentally correct; by continually reelecting incumbents we ARE loosing our rights, quite willingly; and by loosing our rights, we lose them. ;)
Unfortunately, Microsoft software comes with no support and no warranty, and they are not responsible for any damages or data loss.
Where is the advantage again?
Oh come on, Microsoft knows a good thing when they see it. Take Stacker for example; they liked it so much that they incorporated it into their own DOS and Windows 95 products. Ditto for Central Point AntiVirus -- and look at how well those two companies prosper. . . oh wait, I see your point. ;)
They are reputedly grabbing random prose from the gutenberg project, so by scraping prose from hundreds of public domain works of literature they are throwing LOTS of stuff that could be found in ham into the emails, which over time will make bayesian filtering useless.
Well, considering that Windows comes with:
- No support (aside from 90-day installation support, ONLY for the retail, not OEM version)
- NO WARRANTY
- Effective elimination of your first sale doctrine rights
They know better to not claim "good software" and "good support" as Windows' strength(s).
(I'll echo others here: where is the threading?)
The problem is, spam isn't just an image now. It's:
Throw in random prose, and you're not only tricking rules-based filters, but de-training bayesian filters.
Patents should be approved and managed like trademarks; in order to be valid and defendable one must show a serious attempt to keep it in active use, else it is expired/invalidated.
Oh it's not a matter of their realizing it; they'd issue the patent and leave it for the courts to sort out.
No kidding. It's the whole POINT of tagging.
It's always wise to keep an eye out for alternatives - every three to six months I reevaluate SuSE, ubuntu, Mandriva, and other distributions to decide what to go with. I don't jump on every version of SuSE across the board but I have been buying every release. I will probably be buying 10.2.
My suggestion is this: if 10.2 looks like a good solution (or if you run SLES/SLED 10.1 or 11 or whatever is coming next) then go with it, if it meets your needs and the "license" is still reasonable.
I wouldn't worry too much about patents where Microsoft is concerned - they're too worried about hitting antitrust issues and if they use the Novell-Microsoft deal as a means to sabotage Linux, they stand a good chance of not only going the way of Standard Oil and Ma Bell, but also see the execs who engineered the mess facing charges under RICO.
10.2 is going to be a fairly clean release, and I expect next summer's release to be as well (Microsoft moves v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y and they couldn't ship a shell script on time if they tried), it's releases after that which should make you reexamine SuSE as your problem solver. So far it's been a great distribution, and even after all of the FUD (one of which made me consider removing SuSE from office machines, the KDE issue) the end result so far has been the distribution's getting better and better (10.0's samba integration issues aside).
What I'm saying is: don't abandon SuSE as a technical solution until there is a good technical or legal reason to do so, and with the DOJ's antitrust sword dangling over Microsoft's head, especially with the Demon^Hcrats' win yesterday, patent issues are hardly a concern.
In >20 years how many times has Dvorak actually been right?
Also, last I checked, there is already proprietary software for Linux already and GPL hasn't stopped them due to any viral "tainting."
(Yeah I know one of those is going GPL soon but isn't yet)
Then there are those which skirt the GPL and where the legality is questionable, such as NVidia's and ATI's video drivers.
Do'nt be rediculous. Why do you think slashdoters would be effected? Its not as tho everyone hear uses bad grammer and speling.
;)
Sheesh.
Wrong. Scrubbing toilets is also usually either outsourced or the job is taken by an illegal alien.
How the HELL can Microsoft do that, since they touted .Net as an open standard to begin with (ESPECIALLY in thecase of C#)? They can hardly reneg on that at this point.
A false peace. If the period were 7 years, it would be definitive proof that Microsoft is the seat of the antichrist.
Ditto here. I love SuSE. I mean, I REALLY love SuSE.
Why?
An hour installing then you're ready to work, right out of the box, with very little tweaking required (unless you need support for bleeding-edge hardware).
However, Novell just made a deal with Vader, and at first it seemed like a great thing for Novell and Linux, but now Vader seems to be altering the terms of the deal, and I guess we are to pray that he does not alter it further.
Darth Vader: Novell Linux is the only Linux you can use, and the GPL does not apply to us.
Novell: You said Linux would be safe and we could continue development under the GPL
Darth Vader: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
In which case you vote with your wallet by not partonizing them.
Welcome to capitalism.
. . . their brick-and-mortar stores.
Duh.
Fucking bleeding-heart courts.
In the cities, sure, I realize that, I do have friends who immigrated here from China. But China does not have all one billion of its residents living in cities. If they develop the way we did here in America and as more people in outlying communities get an education and decide to enter more modern careers, they will likely have longer commutes than we have here unless they move into the overcrowded cities.