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What's With All This Spam?

coondoggie writes to mention a Network World article about soaring spam levels, confirmed now by researchers, IT managers, and security vendors. So, indeed, it's not just you: October was a spammy month. From the article: "Levine's assumption is this spike in spam levels is a result of a new generation of viruses and zombies that can infect PCs more quickly and are harder to get rid of. In its October report, messaging security vendor MessageLabs says the spike is largely due to two Trojan programs, Warezov and SpamThru. Others say a new breed of spam messages called image spam -- messages with text embedded in an image file that evade spam filters, which can't recognize the words inside the image -- is responsible." A note: I have no interest in penny stocks.

212 comments

  1. Whatever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


      It's almost Christmas season. Let's just calm down for a second and think...why NOT have all the adverts delivered right my inbox? Instead of hunting for the best deal, I know where the BEST V1AGRA PILZ are immediately! WOOT

  2. Commission by GlobalEcho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One thing that has always bemused me about the penny stock spams is the brokerage fees. If you pay, say, 1 1/2 cents per share in brokerage, (thus 3 cents total for buying and eventually selling), your 15 cent stock trade is 20% in the hole the minute you do it.

    1. Re:Commission by dank+zappingly · · Score: 1

      I think the reason you are so "bemused" is that you are mistaken about the process. No one does 15 cent stock trades. It would not be worth the price of the phone call. No one pays 10% of the share price to buy and sell stocks. Sure it could happen if your broker was charging you 10 bucks per trade and you only bought 100 dollars worth of stock, but you'd have to be crazy to do this.

    2. Re:Commission by MoxFulder · · Score: 1

      Yes, but these UnDER\/ALUED COMPANIES are poised to S * O * A * R!!! 20% is nothing, don't you know these stocks will make it back in a week?

    3. Re:Commission by ChetOS.net · · Score: 1

      I have yet to use a brokerage that charges a per-share commission. Scotttrade, for example, charges a flat fee per transaction (buying and selling).

      --
      "If God had intended us to walk he would not have invented roller skates." -- Willy Wonka
    4. Re:Commission by Cirvam · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some discount brokerages only charge a flat rate for each trade, regardless of how many shares are traded. I know Etrade is one example and I'm sure there are countless others.

  3. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much of it was Sen. Ted "Tubes" Stevens' spamming?

    To be honest, I didn't think he could plug a computer in, but we all know that little intelligence is required to become a spammer, so...

  4. First Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry couldnt resist :-)

    One more then I will go.

    In soviet russian the receivers of spam...

    track down the dang spammers and break them. - I wish

  5. I use GMail by Com2Kid · · Score: 4, Informative

    What spam? I get maybe 1 or 2 spam emails in my actual inbox each week.

    Oh, my spam folder? Over a hundred a day, but as I recall, Gmail has miscategorized maybe 2 or 3 messages as spam during the entire time I have used it. Unless I am expecting something, I rarly check the spam folder at all.

    1. Re: I use gmail by crossmr · · Score: 1

      I don't use gmail. I have a gmail account though. I logged in, after having not visited it for about ohhh... near a year. Full of spam. I never once used it, didn't give it to anyone, put it on a form, etc So I can't possibly see how you could actually use it and have have less spam.

    2. Re:I use GMail by jacquems · · Score: 1

      I use Sneakemail. For those who are not familiar with the service, it allows you to generate unique, disposable e-mail addresses (I have different addresses for each site/contact). That way, you can immediately see where the spammers got your address, and if the spam gets too bad, you can deactivate/delete an address and generate a new one.

      Until a friend gave my real e-mail address to a fake friends-network site (grr!), I never got any spam at all. Now I'm thinking about changing my real address because the amount of spam is just getting ridiculous (even with filters).

    3. Re:I use GMail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What spam? I get maybe 1 or 2 spam emails in my actual inbox each week.

      Oh, my spam folder? Over a hundred a day, but as I recall, Gmail has miscategorized maybe 2 or 3 messages as spam during the entire time I have used it. Unless I am expecting something, I rarly check the spam folder at all.


      That's still spam dipshit and still a problem for mailservers, the folder that it lands in on your account is irrelevant.

      Gmail? 2.5 year beta? Yeahhh right... they'll keep that social engineering / datamining invitations system going as long as they can.

      I have declined over a dozen Gmail invitations on principle of denying Google that information. If Google wants my social network information they can damn well PAY me for it. When I can sign up for a truly free account independently I'll consider it, until then Lycos' truly free 3GB mailbox and spam filtering is working just fine for me.

      I think its long past due that people should start publicly questioning the motivation behind Gmail's invitation system presented under the guise of a never ending beta... I call bullshit.
  6. Bayesian training by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use SpamAssassin and train it regularly against obvious spam. I've heard that this new crop of spam GIFs accompanying seemingly-normal text is mean to get through or even de-train Bayesian filters, but wouldn't SpamAssassin be able to recognize that one common thing about all these messages is an attached image file, and so consider that a spam marker? I read my mail as plain text in Gnus, and most people I correspond with avoid HTML mail and image attachments, so it wouldn't be a problem for me if GIFs or PNGs went straight to /dev/null.

    1. Re:Bayesian training by Mr.+Mindless · · Score: 2, Interesting

      nope. I've been training S-A for years now and it has worked nearly flawlessly until these embedded image spams. I haven't been reading my spambox closely so I don't know how many of them are caught, but 10-15 of them make it to my inbox each day. Few other spams make it through, but a significant number of these come through.

      It's extremely frustrating. I have been looking at the source of them to try to find something common to filter on with procmail but they are encoded MIME attachments which I'm not willing to block wholesale.

      --
      - MM
  7. Redundant Safeguards by mordors9 · · Score: 0

    That's why you should have an ISP that filters, then have filters on your box. Some of it still gets through but it is manageable.

  8. Ameritrade by masterz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many of these stock spams have been going to people who have accounts at Ameritrade. It is likely that their email list has been stolen. See http://www.billkatz.com/node/77 for details.

    1. Re:Ameritrade by killbill! · · Score: 1

      After reading your post, I've decided to buy Alcoa shares (AA). So should you. THIS IS GOING TO EXPLODE!

      </sarcasm>

      I don't own an Ameritrade account, don't publish most of my addresses, and I'm still getting a barrage of penny stock spams. So, I don't believe the Ameritrade break-in is behind this.

      However, I'm about to ask my lawyer if it's legal to short them. ;p

  9. Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by GWBasic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!!

    I set up SPF on my domains and the number of bounces from spoofed SPAM dropped dramatically.

    Do not wait any longer, do your duty to the internet community: Set up SPF NOW!!!

  10. Reverse OCR by mwilliamson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At work we use spam assassin with a gpl OCR plugin, however, it's getting foiled by intentional added noise in the images. I propose we come up with a way to detect these non-character elements (noise) in the associated spam images instead of just trying to OCR the text. The noise I've seen seems to be like it should be easily detectable.

    "Begun, this Captcha Wars has."
    -Yada

    1. Re:Reverse OCR by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Informative

      At work we use spam assassin with a gpl OCR plugin, however, it's getting foiled by intentional added noise in the images. I propose we come up with a way to detect these non-character elements (noise) in the associated spam images instead of just trying to OCR the text. The noise I've seen seems to be like it should be easily detectable.

      I use a plugin called FuzzyOcr, and it handles animation and noise very well. Unfortunately the OCR itself isn't great, so it reads a lot of gibberish. FuzzyOCR compensates for this by being very liberal with its string matching (hence the name). The nice thing is, it correctly identifies the vast majority of the image-based spam I receive. Unfortunately, it's very easy for it to identify false positives. So far I haven't had this problem, but you might, especially if people often send you screen shots.

      --
      $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
    2. Re:Reverse OCR by leenks · · Score: 1

      Just "de-pepper" the images and run the ICR. It might even be better *not* to preprocess the images at all. If all the images have similar noise, then the ICR engine is going to make the same mistakes every time which might give you something to train a classifier on.

    3. Re:Reverse OCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arms race versus technical solution?
      I propose we stop wasting effort on identifying spam and fix broken smtp.

      Suggestions?

    4. Re:Reverse OCR by HyTronix · · Score: 1

      Are you using FuzzyOCR? I've just installed it on my network, and it seems to be working pretty well. It mis-detects many words, but since none of our legit mail contains inline images, an extra point or two doesn't affect the false positive rate.

    5. Re:Reverse OCR by sarahbau · · Score: 1

      I was able to create a "rule" for these emails that works well for me. If the sender is not in my address book, and is not one of my previous recipients, and contains a single attachment of type .gif, it moves it to my junk folder. So far it's gotten every one of these stock spams, and has only moved one valid email to junk (and even that was just "spam" forwarded from my mother. lol)

    6. Re:Reverse OCR by Liquid+Len · · Score: 1

      At work we use spam assassin with a gpl OCR plugin, however, it's getting foiled by intentional added noise in the images.
      They do add noise to their images ? Boy, I have to say I'm pretty amazed to see what these people are capable of to send their crap... Now, if only I could understand their real motivations.

    7. Re:Reverse OCR by mwilliamson · · Score: 1

      No, we're not using FuzzyOCR but it's on our list of things to experiement with. Although FuzzyOCR is better at reading text buried in a noisy image, I'm thinking that the noise itself is what we should detect. The presence of a noise of a certain signature could be a good indication of a message's spam probability. The common "chicken scratch" noise I think would be easy to detect. Short, straight lines at varying angles and placements that bare no relation to eachother would count as the "chicken scratch". The little dots (or clusters of few dots) sometimes used would be also fairly easy to detect as they aren't really part of anything else. If it is a dot or line, count it. If it looks like a more complex figure, skip it. Count the number of dots/lines and contribute to the message's spaminess factor.

      This would force spammers into using more complex noise. I suspect this isn't free to generate, so they would probably be more likely to use the same image in multiple spam messages which would lead to us anti-spammers being able to keep a database of some sort of robust yet easy to calculate image hash (not md5/sha1).

    8. Re:Reverse OCR by itsdave · · Score: 1

      you do not have your own mother in your address book? you aught to be ashamed of yourself.

    9. Re:Reverse OCR by aclarke · · Score: 1

      Is your OCR filter smart enough to read the second image in the animated .gifs spammers are using now? The first image in the set is just noise, and then a split second later the actual image they want you to see comes up. You've probably noticed this trick and I've been wondering if there are filters widely available to catch this yet.

      I just use spamassassin with a bunch of the pyzor/razor/dcc checks and it does a pretty good job, but these types of spam are still getting through too often.

    10. Re:Reverse OCR by mwilliamson · · Score: 1

      Hmmm...I didn't realize they were using animated gifs to do this. It would be easy enough to come up with some sort of filter to strip all but the last frame and run the check on that. I expect the guys working on spamassassin are probably already on it, but I'll try and hack some sort of detector together myself for fun. ;-)

  11. Don't be so smug by Kris_J · · Score: 5, Informative

    I barely get any spam either, but my ISP's mail servers are so choked with the stuff that real emails are being delayed by as much as two and a half days. So all of you who say "What spam?" need to be aware that, unless you only send messages to yourself, it's a real problem for everyone.

    1. Re:Don't be so smug by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1
      my ISP's mail servers are so choked with the stuff that real emails are being delayed by as much as two and a half days.
      Are you sure they're not trying to send you internets instead of emails?

      I'm sorry, I feel for your plight. But I just couldn't resist the recently-dethroned Ted Stevens reference.
    2. Re:Don't be so smug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my ISP's mail servers are so choked with the stuff that real emails are being delayed by as much as two and a half days.

      Be a real geek and run your own mail server.

      Besides any sensible ISP would just upgrade their hardware to meet increasing demand, rather than pay salaries of IT workers to screw around writing a better mouse trap (er, spam trap).

      SPAM IS NOT A PROBLEM

  12. SPAM? by kosmosik · · Score: 0

    SPAM? I don't get any recently. Really. No SPAM. I don't know maybe filters got better.

    What was the measure of this increased volumes of SPAM? Judging from filter logs or what?

    1. Re:SPAM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have been experimenting with a cluster of 5 debian postfix servers for the last couple days, and haven't received a single spam yet on any of them. Of course that might be because thy are running as virtual machines along on one box, only connected to a network of 2 other computers each running 10 VM client machines. Of course, once I receive the physical machines for these servers, copy over the configuration, and relase them into the wild, I'm assuming they will clog up REALLY fast...

  13. SpamAssassin is too costly. by caluml · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't afford the CPU power to let it check all messages in SpamAssassin. So I have to ditch many of them based on Netblock, Country, IP address, invalid EHLO, claiming they're "localhost" or "friend". Only then, after binning about 99% of connection attempts, do the remaining have to run the SpamAssassin gauntlet.

    Most of mine get binned with a 554 "You're not localhost"

    Some spammer is using an email address of mine to send spam from. So I get the people writing back, asking why I am sending them spam. And another of my domains is obviously listed somewhere as a domain where guessing user accounts might be a good idea. So I get cqoiecn@mydomain.com, zqopqwn@mydomain.com, etc. It all just sucks. I'm currently getting about 10 spams per minute.

    1. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by mgv · · Score: 1


      Some spammer is using an email address of mine to send spam from. So I get the people writing back, asking why I am sending them spam. And another of my domains is obviously listed somewhere as a domain where guessing user accounts might be a good idea. So I get cqoiecn@mydomain.com, zqopqwn@mydomain.com, etc. It all just sucks. I'm currently getting about 10 spams per minute.


      Yes, I'm getting this too...

      Bounced emails to guessed email accounts. But with forged headers saying that I'm the sender. I know that they are forged, because I have my own domain, and the "from" fields are nothing like the ones I make up when I generate a "throw away" email address. So they are guessing my email accounts (wrongly) - and they end up in my catch-all box when postfix or similar return the mail to me (with spam attached!) It sucks big time that it looks like I'm sending spam - and I doubt very much that anyone has hacked my email or guessed my account password. Stuff being sent when my computers are off, no records of this as sent mail, and use of emails addresses that have never existed.

      At least I'm not getting one a minute.

      I moved my domain hosting over to google as my previous provider just couldn't filter effectively and it was causing me lots of grief.

      But I do worry about the number of people who are thinking I'm spamming them....

      Michael

      --
      There is no cryptographic solution to the problem where the intended receiver and the attacker are the same entity.
    2. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by arantius · · Score: 1

      > So I get the people writing back, asking why I am sending them spam

      Much worse is the bounces. I've actually thrown together a filter now, that will scan a bounced message for a Received: line from my server, and just /dev/nulls any that don't have it. I'm || this close to writing the same sort of thing for ANY message with a .GIF attachment.

      --
      Health is simply dying at the slowest rate possible.
    3. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by Malc · · Score: 1

      You must be using a catch-all email address for that domain, something equivalent. I recently discovered I was getting emails like that. This was after I configured my domain (via easydns.com) to forward all domain emails to my Yahoo address. Now that I'm handling my own mail again, I don't see any of them. Exim doesn't accept them because there are no users (or aliases) that match, so I never see the messages. I'm not getting 10 attempts per minute either... but my P75 server isn't even breaking a sweat ;)

    4. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by Yggdrasil42 · · Score: 1

      Pushing all messages through SpamAssassin would be simply silly. As always you should first use the cheap checks, and only use the very expensive ones like SA until the last moment. You should balance your anti-spam configuration with the risk of false-positives, because some checks may work well in theory but don't work at all in the reality of the internet. Many mailservers have bugs or configurations that would cause you to block legitimate mail, and if you block a false positive at the mailserver level, you can't drag it out of your spam mailbox later.

      In other words, read before you do and run in 'warn-before-act' mode for a while. It's for example possible but not practical to check for existence of the sender's address, even though that would work wonders against spam.

      If you're using Postfix, there are many check you can do before your heavy filter steps in.
      Good resources are:
      http://www.securitysage.com/antispam/intro.html
      http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.tx t

      After doing a bunch of Postfix header checks (such as valid fqdn domains, existing recipients, some RFC-compliance, etc) I check several conservative blacklists, such sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org (with is great), check against my greylisting policy-server, and only then feed it through the bayesian spamfilter (dspam in my case). A last check is amavisd-new which checks for viruses and disallowed filetypes.

      This stops (if I recall correctly) 90% of spam *before* it reaches the spamfilter. Only 2-3 messages a week reach my inbox undetected.

    5. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I use a three-tier approach.

      Tier 1 is OpenBSD's spamd, which has a static block list. This is updated nightly based on anyone who has sent mail SpamAssassin flagged, and a couple of external sources. Anyone on this blocklist gets tar-pitted and it takes a long time for them to receive the block message. Spamd is very low resource usage, and can tie up a few thousand connections without any noticeable impact on system load on a moderately modern machine.

      Tier 2 is Sendmail, which has blocks everyone on the Spamhaus realtime (DNS) block lists. These people aren't tar-pitted, they're just quickly blocked.

      The final tier is SpamAssassin, which adds headers to all mail indicating whether it is spam, and feeds back into tier 1. Users can then do with this whatever they wish.

      --
      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
    6. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by GWBasic · · Score: 1
      Some spammer is using an email address of mine to send spam from. So I get the people writing back, asking why I am sending them spam. And another of my domains is obviously listed somewhere as a domain where guessing user accounts might be a good idea. So I get cqoiecn@mydomain.com, zqopqwn@mydomain.com, etc. It all just sucks. I'm currently getting about 10 spams per minute.

      Use SPF. (Sender Policy Framework.) I set it up last week and the amount of bounces that I get from spammers spoofing my domain dropped about 80-90%. I'd also consider switching to a service provider that implements some kind of a brute-force attack filter; my catch-all, hosted by Lunarpages, doesn't get "10 spams per minute".

    7. Re:SpamAssassin is too costly. by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 1

      I had a simiar problem. For me SA was working as a SMTP proxy server in front of my Exchange server. By exporting a list of valid email addresses from AD into a valid_recipients list, I was able to *massively* cut down the amount of processing that SA needed to perform as Postfix would slam the door on the spam earlier in the process...

      --
      Evolution: love it or leave it
  14. Re: Sender Stores systems. by dominion · · Score: 4, Interesting


    I'm working on a sender stores system for a distributed social networking software called Appleseed based, in theory, on Internet Mail 2000. I figured early on that since the system was distributed, which means that anybody could set up an Appleseed social networking "node", that it would suffer from the same problems as any mail system if I used the standard reciever-stores system.

    I don't harbor any illusions about a sender stores system being able to eliminate spam entirely, but the reason I went with it, especially after reading this indepth critique, was that it created a system of accountability. You may not be able to stop spam, but you have much better tools for knowing exactly where the spam came from.

    The disadvantage is that it becomes, ideologically anyways, incompatible with current email systems. I consider this a small price to pay to allow admins to have better control and protection over their systems.

    The system I'm building is rudimentary for now, and only uses direct HTTP->HTTP connections to send notifications and retrieve messages, and won't have any of the fancy abilities that email has right now, but it's a start, and there's no reason that those features can't be added as it evolves. It's gonna be a big experiment, and I'm expecting a whole lot of unforseen issues, but this whole project is a big experiment, so I'm excited about the possibilities in general.

  15. i have no confirmed proof other than ethereal logs by Neuropol · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but i just recently had an older d-link wireless router that got infected with some thing that turned it in to a spam bot. it was using the router as the spam generation unit. sending out packets to and from the most random addresses. stuff that could no doubt be spam oriented. I captured about 100MB of logs pertaining to the whole issue. it even managed to block numerous updates to the firmaware. and would not allow itself to factory default. it's like it had a hwole other firmware implanted in it and was taken control of.

  16. Devious Plan by LordKaT · · Score: 1

    This rise in spam is actually an elaborate plan in order to get through John C Dvoraks spam filter.

    1. Re:Devious Plan by Rufty · · Score: 1

      John C Dvorak? Is he that profitable a customer for VIAGRA???

      AARG!

      Must...
      ...bleach...
         ...my...
            ...brain........

      --
      Red to red, black to black. Switch it on, but stand well back.
  17. Not just october by Njovich · · Score: 3, Interesting
  18. Essay / Short Story Spam by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I often get email that contains no advertising, contains no links, has no attachments, but is definitely not written by a human and does not convey any useful information. Often this is in the form of a short story. Sometimes it is in the form of an essay. In either case, it looks like it is generated with simple probablistic markov chaining. As such, my spam filter accepts it and I have to manually delete it. Is this just nuisance spam? What does the sender get out of it? Seems pointless, and that's pretty scary to me. I can understand being annoying so you can sell more of your product to idiots on the internet, but being annoying just for the sake of it?

    --
    How we know is more important than what we know.
    1. Re: Essay / Short Story Spam by Kelson · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I often get email that contains no advertising, contains no links, has no attachments, but is definitely not written by a human and does not convey any useful information. Often this is in the form of a short story.

      In addition to the bayes poisoning explanation goofy183 posted, I suspect that some of them started out as the distraction portion of an image-based spam, but the attached images were either stripped out by a relay or left off in the first place by broken spam software (like the stuff you used to see from time to time from %RNDUSER advertising %RNDADJECTIVE %RNDNOUN).

      Parent

    2. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by Krigl · · Score: 1

      Most probably it's just checking if address exists, watch the source code, there might be 1 pixel picture, when your browser downloads it, sender is aware he has hit the real mailbox. One sick freemail (well, it's biggest here in Czech lands) even uses something like this for confirmation of delivery, doesn't work with Gmail, hehe. You'd better just send all unsolicited literature to the same place you send their V1agr4 and P3n1s En|4rg3ment friends.

      --
      Troll 2.0 Fear my asocial networking!
    3. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It serves the purpose of untraining your Bayesian filter, which as a result gets confused and starts to let through spam messages with a purpose.

    4. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by HyTronix · · Score: 1

      I've always thought that those randomly generated, but grammatically correct (although nonsensical) messages were intended to detrain your text classifiers. Just a guess though.

    5. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by zarniwoop102939 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's called "Bayesian Poisoning". Wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_poisoning

    6. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by mgblst · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This sort of spam is used to detrain spam filters. They send a message like this with random text, but no links, so the filter thinks it looks like spam, but it has no other characteristics so it is not. This detrains the text processing part of the filter. Then they can send similar messages with links, and they have a higher chance of getting through.

      Or else somebody has a really weird sense of humour.

    7. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand why is so scary to you.

      Because the point of these apparently pointless messages is just to control your mind, sending you some specific words you might be able to react.

      These messages are not that pointless, beleive me!!

    8. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by Deagol · · Score: 2, Informative

      Like for most of us, this is pretty common. If you want to generate your own such gibberish texts, based on input texts, search for a program called 'dadadodo'. I stumbled across it in the FreeBSD ports tree and had some fun experimenting it. "Know thy enemy" and all that.

    9. Re:Essay / Short Story Spam by fusion9290991 · · Score: 1

      I get these too, sometimes. I suspect it's to try and poison some of your spam/Bayesian filters or something like that. Either that or it's a test to see whether the email gets accepted for that account or bounced.

      --
      remember to loot and pillage before you burn!
  19. SPF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The moron moderator who rated "Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!!" as offtopic needs to get a clue. SPF: Sender Policy Framework is used so you can filter out forged mail. The recent flood of stock-pumping spam used many forged domains in the "from", and if you filtered on SPF, you wouldn't have seen as much spam.

    I might add, it would be nice for people to REJECT spam rather than BOUNCE it. When you bounce it, innocent domains get an email complaining about the forged email. With these spambots, it adds up quick! Doing a reject also allows legitimate senders to discover their email was not delivered.

    1. Re:SPF by bourne · · Score: 1
      I might add, it would be nice for people to REJECT spam rather than BOUNCE it. When you bounce it, innocent domains get an email complaining about the forged email. With these spambots, it adds up quick! Doing a reject also allows legitimate senders to discover their email was not delivered.

      It would be nice, but unfortunately, that runs counter to the time-tested design of essentially every Mail Transfer Agent out there.

      Any decent MTA will carefully ensure that the incoming mail message is written out, then signal acceptance of the message, marking that it is now solely responsible for delivery. If spam analysis engines are placed in between those two steps, then it introduces a soft real-time bottleneck and performance impact; it becomes straightforward to perform an email Denial-of-Service by thrashing the spam engine with a number of messages so the MTA can't accept more connections.

      To be safe and efficient, then, MTAs will accept the message and drop the connection before performing any costly processing. Once they've done that, there's no way to reject the spam, it can only be dropped or bounced.

      There's some discussion of this in the Postfix Content Inspection README. To wit:

      Although [before-queue, external, medium-weight filtering options] appear to be attractive, they have some serious limitations that you need to be aware of. First, content inspection software must finish in a limited amount of time; if content inspection needs too much time then incoming mail deliveries will time out. Second, content inspection software must run in a limited amount of memory; if content inspection needs too much memory then software will crash under a peak load. Before-queue inspection limits the peak load that your system can handle, and limits the sophistication of the content filter that you can use.
    2. Re:SPF by Yer+Mom · · Score: 1

      Now if only PlusNet would get a clue and allow people to add TXT records to their DNS entries, rather than just A, CNAME and MX... *sigh*

      --
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    3. Re:SPF by caluml · · Score: 1

      Get in touch with me, and I'll host your DNS, and you have have whatever records you like in your zone.

  20. SPF by caluml · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Another user mentioned SPF. This is good. You configure a TXT record in your DNS, which says to the world, unless emails claiming to come from mydomain.com come from mail server a.b.c.d, or w.x.y.z, then bin them. It doesn't reduce your spam, but it prevents people being able to use our domain in the from address to send their spam, meaning you get fewer bounce-backs/user not found emails. (It can mess up forwarding though.)
    But I haven't got it working in Postfix yet, so I can't benefit from other's SPF records.

  21. The Pump-n-Dumps are a problem, by budgenator · · Score: 1

    Otherwise I'd be more than willing to scan the spam for the links to the beneficiaries websites and just block them or even turn chummer loose on them; but with pump-n-dumps their is no clear beneficiary.

    --
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    1. Re:The Pump-n-Dumps are a problem, by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      but with pump-n-dumps their is no clear beneficiary

      More true than you realise. A few months ago, when I noticed the increase of stock spam, I tried tracing the history of a few of these scams. There was no clear pattern; some went up, some went down. And the volume of trades on each was so small that a very lucky investor could only have made a few hundred dollars.

      A shame; I'd been thinking about setting up a tar pit and automating it to get in on the scams early...

      --
      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
  22. Greylisting helps by FliesLikeABrick · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since most of this spam is sent by zombies, they care nothing about the success rate of the delivery. They just pump out thousands/millions of spam messages, hit each e-mail address once and move on. If it fails or appears to fail then it just moves to the next since single-digit success rates still result in thousands or millions of free advertising for the spammer.

    As a result, using greylisting results in filtering a HUGE amount of spam out since it fakes a temporary failure from any new server connecting and waits for the server to try sending the mail again after a defined delay (according to the RFC, mailservers are supposed to try sending again if they get this temporary deferral).

    I set this up on my primary server (ubuntu with postfix) and saw a 99% decrease in spam since none of the zombies care enough to try connecting again. By the time a zombie gets upgraded to be wise enough to evade this, it is likely to fail all kinds of other spam tests anyway (referring mainly to blacklists, though blacklisting can be extremely evil by nature).

    If you run a mailserver, definitely look into setting this up. The wikipedia article explains the low-risk nature and exactly how it works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting

    1. Re:Greylisting helps by MoxFulder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Greylisting might be very effective for now, but of course the "fix" is quite easy: the spammers can reprogram the zombies to retry after temporary failures. In that case, greylisting won't slow them down more than proportionally to the rate at which they encounter temporary failures... I'd say a maximum rate of maybe 1 in 3 would be acceptable before legitimate email would be impacted too severely.

      1/3 less spam is still waaaaay too much spam. I'm afraid that even though greylisting is a smart trick, it's not sustainable. Then again, I'm beginning to believe there's *NO* long-term way to slay SPAM, that it will be a permanent back-and-forth battle for years or decades.

    2. Re:Greylisting helps by mgblst · · Score: 0, Troll

      Hey, Zombies have feelings too, you know.

    3. Re:Greylisting helps by ttul · · Score: 1

      Several of the recent articles on the huge increase in spam talk about how the new generation of spam trojans are adapting to beat greylisting. For example, the SpamThru trojan contains a full MTA capable of assembling spam messages from templates it downloads from "template servers".

    4. Re:Greylisting helps by cow+ninja · · Score: 1

      And thats fine. If you have a 60 second greylist policy then in that 60 seconds RBL like spamcop have time to adapt and that can bump up the spam score. If a few get by then good for them but eventually the spam will get caught.

    5. Re:Greylisting helps by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Actually, it doesn't make much difference anymore. Most spammers are now wise to grey listing and actually will retry. There was a good presentation (quite) recently by the OpenBSD spamd guys on the current state of the art. For the moment, a lot of spam bots will detect when they are being tar-pitted, and so if you slow down the reply for the first 10 seconds or so of a dialog with any sender then you a lot of spam-bots will automatically disconnect (assuming that you've recognised them as spammers) and give up. You can then black-list that IP address.

      Of course, by the time you read this, they will probably have adapted to that too...

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  23. windows zombies due to security holes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the spam is from security holes for the most part.

  24. Pump and dump by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I run a small, but publicly traded company. Recently, I was contacted by a "PR firm" about "promoting the stock" of my company. Normally, I just hang up, but he mentioned a few "success stories" which seemed to correlate to some of the recent spam that had slipped through spamassassin. So I got his contact details and said since I was really busy "could he please email a summary of what we'd just talked about" (which he did).

    I then called the enforcement division of the SEC and said I had the name and contact details for a company that was responsible for sending a number of unsolicited pump/dump email spams to me. I also told them that I had email from the spammer himself confirming that they'd done the deed. It wasn't some innocent bystander, but the people that actually SENT the mail. I was sent to a voicemail box and assured that I'd be called back. It's now about 2 weeks later and nobody ever called me.

    And people wonder why there's so many of these vermin...uh, it's practically impossible to get caught!

    1. Re:Pump and dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should sent a complaint to the FTC - they'll be interested in this as a UCE problem, and they do prosecute. At the very least, post in on consumer sentinel, findable on their web site.

      Of course, most of these things take time - I was an intern there over the summer, and most of the time consumers were not contacted for a couple YEARS after the incident occurred, becuase they didn't have sufficient material for a case until then.

    2. Re:Pump and dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And people wonder why there's so many of these vermin...uh, it's practically impossible to get caught!

      Better idea.... post his contact information here, as an AC, and let the chips fall where they may.

    3. Re:Pump and dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should contact the SEC again as well as the Federal Trade Commission (www.ftc.gov) and the Attorney-General of the spammer's home state. They will be interested in evidence of pump-and-dump scams.

    4. Re:Pump and dump by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

      Now this *is* actually interesting.

      Please, oh please, post the name, email, telephone number, adress, etc of these bastards right here on Slashdot.
      Remember the last time this happened? The post office complained to the spammer that they have to send an entire car to his home - twice - just to deliver the endless amount of letters, offers, catalogues, etc - all which he had apparently subscribed to... >:)

      If we find anything about these morons - and can confirm them to be spammers - let's post them here. And give them hell.

      --
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    5. Re:Pump and dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please do us all a favor and make a call to your local newspaper and TV station.. they need news and we all need the SEC to catch the scum who are sending the spam.

    6. Re:Pump and dump by Henry+Stern · · Score: 1

      Please contact me by e-mail.

    7. Re:Pump and dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?

    8. Re:Pump and dump by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

      The other annoyance is why they have to send me 15-20 copies of each of their garbage emails. Earlier this week it was a clothing company. Now it's some petroleum company.

      They seem to have dropped their earlier format: price now $x, reached $y in last (pump'n'dump) campaign. But since $x is always much less than $y, it's obvious somebody made a hell of a lot of money on the way up, and somebody lost a hell of a lot when it tanked.

      ...laura

    9. Re:Pump and dump by gsslay · · Score: 1
      I don't understand.

      How does a company benefit from being the subject of a pump and dump scam? Unless the owners are bailing out?

      So why would a spammer want to talk to you about pumping and dumping your stock? Why on earth would you pay them to do this? Would the spammer not be better talking to an entirely separate third party who buys your stock up cheaply and doesn't care about the fallout after the dumping?

      I'm not saying your "PR firm" weren't up to some scheme involving pumping stock, but I don't see any clear connection to pump 'n' dump spamming scams.

    10. Re:Pump and dump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The criminal agrees to promote the stock in exchange for let's say $100,000 worth of shares of your company's stock. The value of the shares is based on the value of the stock when you initiate the deal. So let's say that today the stock is at US$1. The criminal gets 100,000 shares and starts spamming away. The company just chuckles because the stock is probably part of many millions of shares owned by the company and they can "print more" with virtual impunity. Of the 80-100 million emails the criminal sends out, let's say 0.1% actually read the mail (80,000-100,000) and 1% of those (800-1000) run out to their broker and buy some shares of the company. In a thinly traded penny stock or small company with low trading volume, that is enough to spike up the price by a factor of 2-3 times or more. So now those shares are worth US$200-300k. The criminal sells them off and profits (and likely the owner of the firm does too).

      Of course, no reputable company would do this, but there are thousands of thinly traded companies with stock on the OTC bulletin board, the Toronto exchange or on the pink sheets with shady principals that wouldn't think twice about it. These cases are almost never brought to court since the FBI or regulators only want to hear about fraud in the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars or more. So the criminal changes mail drops a few times a year, moves around from state to state once in a while or just does it all from Eastern Europe, Latin America, or Asia.

    11. Re:Pump and dump by edunagin · · Score: 1

      I guess it is not strange that the SEC is moving slowley, or not at all. i too have gmail and their spam stop programs gets a lot of it. i had over 6000 spams in my spam folder last month, and getting about the same this month. what seems to be beyound me, is why the SEC or and Agency cannot go after the compaines that support these spammers. i mean i get spam offers from BIG corporations..oh well.

    12. Re:Pump and dump by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      it's obvious somebody made a hell of a lot of money on the way up, and somebody lost a hell of a lot when it tanked.

      I investigated a few companies that had been spammed in this way, but I couldn't find any correlation between stock price and spam. Some of the companies went up, and some went down, just like un-pumped stocks.

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    13. Re:Pump and dump by ttul · · Score: 1

      Because Henry Stern is a well known anti spam researcher.

    14. Re:Pump and dump by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just looked one of the companies (the petroleum one) up on NASDAQ, and while their share price was up yesterday, then down today, the interesting thing is the way the stock has traded more in the last two days than in the entire previous year. By several orders of magnitude, in fact.

      Until May this year the company was worth approximately nothing (10 cents a share). In the last two days they pumped it from $2.95 up to $10.10, then dumped it down to $4.00. On 60,000-odd shares traded, somebody made a lot of money...and a lot of people got suckered. I suppose that's why these filth keep doing it. Sad.

      You'd think somebody would notice, especially with zero real news about the company (I checked that too). But even in these economic times, 60,000 shares just doesn't make NASDAQ's most-active list.

      ...laura

  25. I agree that SPF appears necessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would like to see an "Ask Slashdot" article on why ISPs are not making full use of available anti-spam tools like SPF. Even blocking email from known dynamic-IP ranges would stop a lot of the zombie traffic. Nobody needs to send email from a box with an address assigned to Comcast or AOL or another consumer broadband provider. Why don't spam filters take advantage of this?

    1. Re:I agree that SPF appears necessary by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Nobody needs to send email from a box with an address assigned to Comcast or AOL or another consumer broadband provider.

      Please don't tell me what I do and do not need to do.

      --
      There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
  26. Filter by IPs by BerkeleyDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Spammers put garbage in the message body, subject, other headers, etc. in order to fool the spam filters - and unfortunately, they are often pretty successful.

    But one thing they cannot change is their IP addresses. I wrote a script to parse my mail and save the IP addresses (or more precisely, their first two numbers - e.g., 213.186) that appear in spam messages, but not in normal ones. Then, I run another script on my incoming mail - which marks the message as spam if it contains a blacklisted IP address.

    I update the list of IPs once in a while, and it works pretty decently. Right now, I have about 4,500 items in the list - each one corresponding to a range of 256^2 IP addresses - so it's about 7% of the whole address space (kinda scary). It blocks about 2/3 of spam, with almost no false positives. Most of my spam is also marked by the SpamAssassin (or whatever the mail server uses) and automatically moved into the spam folder, so I just run the script once in a while, and it "learns" on its own.

    1. Re: Filter by IPs by Kelson · · Score: 2, Informative
      But one thing they cannot change is their IP addresses.

      Sure they can. They've got access to botnets of random compromised PCs sitting in homes and offices around the world. If they find one being blocked too much, all they have to do is send the commands to another one. It's legit mailers, who have anywhere from one to a few dozen outgoing servers (depending on the size of the organization) who can't change their IPs.

      I wrote a script to parse my mail and save the IP addresses (or more precisely, their first two numbers - e.g., 213.186) that appear in spam messages, but not in normal ones.

      The list you're putting together is probably mostly a mix of spam-friendly ISPs and residential/small business DSL/cable IP blocks. The reason you're not seeing many false positives is that most legit home users send through their ISP's mail server rather than directly to you, so you don't see that their IP is on your list.

      Parent

    2. Re: Filter by IPs by Sir+Runcible+Spoon · · Score: 1
      But one thing they cannot change is their IP addresses.
      Sure they can. They've got access to botnets of random compromised PCs sitting in homes and offices around the world...

      Yes, but those compromised PCs and ISP home user gateways are not sending us legitimate email. A legitimate email from the guy who owns the PC will be coming out through his company/ISP mail server which is unlikely to be the same.
    3. Re:Filter by IPs by LordSnooty · · Score: 1
      so it's about 7% of the whole address space (kinda scary)
      Not really when you're only paying attention to the first two bytes of the address. 4500 out of 256^4 is less dramatic.

      I was always led to believe that the IP on a spam is as worthless as the rest, since it's easily spoofed. Maybe I need to return to the textbooks.
    4. Re:Filter by IPs by spazimodo · · Score: 1

      The IPs on any relay servers before the connection to your mail server can't be trusted. However, the IP of the server that sent the message to your server should be correct since it's your server that's adding that IP to the header.

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    5. Re:Filter by IPs by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      I tried something similar to this recently with one of my web sites where the forum was getting spammed, and it didn't work out.

      I did find out quite quickly that there are several daily dozen visitors to my forum that are Americans working for energy companies and living in Russia or Nigeria or similar places who use the forum as a way of combatting homesickness.

      Guess I'll have to try something else.

      --
      -- I'm old enough to have lived through six different meanings of the word "hacker."
  27. October? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've gotten more spam the last week than the whole of October. Stock pump and dump seem to be in vouge at the moment.

  28. what's with all this complaining? by wardk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    what's the source of the spam? windows boxes
    what propagates without knowing? window boxes
    who's to blame for all this? windows boxes
    what's never gonna solve it? windows boxes
    who's gonna get most of this spam? windows boxes

    solution? no more windows boxes

    1. Re:what's with all this complaining? by carpe_noctem · · Score: 1

      s/windows boxes/the internet/g

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      "Quoting famous computer scientists out of context is the root of all evil (or at least most of it) in programming." - K
  29. In case you're not getting enough... by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    spam, due to all the filtering, I'm starting a collection. You can watch my spam at http://www.watchmyspam.com/ RSS feeds and a mailing list are coming soon - we're still in beta right now...

    1. Re:In case you're not getting enough... by ADRenalyn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks-- as a Gmail user, I've been wondering what this "Spam" stuff is.

  30. ... Spamhaus??? by Izhido · · Score: 1

    Hey... what about Spamhaus? Did they already close? If they did, that would suggest something, don't you think?

    1. Re:... Spamhaus??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spamhaus is terrible, they'll not disappear fast enough for my tastes.

  31. Domain owners: Don't bother by jdh28 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    1. Re:Domain owners: Don't bother by cburley · · Score: 1

      I agree — SPF is not a silver bullet, and using it is probably unwise, though publishing SPF records (other than just "?all") for those who insist on using it seems reasonable to me.

      --
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    2. Re:Domain owners: Don't bother by Xugumad · · Score: 1

      No... SPF is not the silver bullet a lot of people are selling it as. However...

      "You do see perfectly genuine mail from my domain, from machines other than mine."

      Entirely true. However, this doesn't make SPF worthless. It means that, for domains where mail should only be coming from specific mail servers, SPF still helps. We're in the process of setting this up at work; we now have SMTP servers that support authentication over TLS. For e-mail from my work address, I can connect to those servers, authenticate, and send as normal.

      I know what you're going to say. It doesn't help unless everyone does it. Well, again, not true. For example, if I can tell my spam filters to accept anything from the .ac.uk domain (which is where 90+% of genuine e-mail to my address originates), it helps cut down on false positives. However, I can't do that at the moment because it's is trivial to take origin addresses (I get a lot of spam from faked addresses at my company, for example).

      "How good are your spam filters? By rewriting the address of mail you're forwarding so that it appears to come from your own domain, you put your own reputation on the line. You could be blacklisted for mail which you claimed even though you didn't send it and you have no real knowledge of the original sender. "

      Bloody hell. If you're forwarding e-mail you aren't sure about through your servers, you deserve everything you get. Okay, that's a little harsh, but servers should only be forwarding e-mail from people they can verify the identity of. Being on an IP that the server knows to trust, will do, but ideally they should have to authenticate. This means that if people are sending spam through your servers, you can identify and ban the person responsible.

    3. Re:Domain owners: Don't bother by Xugumad · · Score: 1

      Poking through the further reading, I think it's worth pointing out that SPF explicitely allows domains to say that there are approved servers (from which mail should be trusted), but mail may come from other servers (from which mail should neither be trusted or untrusted)?

  32. In other news... by Shiny+One · · Score: 1

    What's With All The Spam Articles?

  33. Seems like a simple solution... by Eric+Damron · · Score: 1

    When ever an animal population grows to the extent that the critters becomes a nuisance we always put a bounty on their hides (or any body part that proves you killed one).

    I say they should just pay people to kill these pests until they're down to a manageable level.

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  34. SPF Does Not Seem to Work by carpeweb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I noticed a few SPF comments (can't reply directly to them due to the new /. "system" that seems to prevent threading).

    I have not noticed that it helped at all in my case. I have a postmaster account set up with my host that catches all the replies to spams that are sent spoofing my domain. The number seemed to drop in the first week or so after I set up SPF, but it's now back up to an average of 500-1000 per day, and that's just the automated replies I'm seeing.

    I assume the number of spams being sent is much higher, by orders of magnitude.

    From the other comments, it seems possible that I'm misinterpreting the responses. Are they merely an indication of "success"? In other words, are they all just automated responses from the mail servers that correctly figured out (via SPF) that someone was spoofing my domain? This seems illogical, since I'm not sure why a mail server that figured this out would bother with an automated response. Such a policy would double the traffic associated with each "success", which is why it seems illogical to me.

    In addition, of course, I see "out of office" and similar replies from individual mailboxes. Are these merely the indication of mail servers that have not implemented SPF on their (receiving) end? While that doesn't seem illogical, it seems just too easy. In other words, this issue has made me a little paranoid, and I just want to make sure I'm not relying overly much on SPF.

    Are there other tools I could/should be using?

    BTW, I've never, ever received a spam that spoofed a real domain of a large organization. I've seen lame phishes like paypal5.com, but never anything exactly like paypal.com, for example. It's hard to believe that the big guys are 100% successful with just SPF. Am I just being paranoid again?

    Thanks in advance!

    1. Re:SPF Does Not Seem to Work by ahodgson · · Score: 1

      In addition, of course, I see "out of office" and similar replies from individual mailboxes. Are these merely the indication of mail servers that have not implemented SPF on their (receiving) end? While that doesn't seem illogical, it seems just too easy. In other words, this issue has made me a little paranoid, and I just want to make sure I'm not relying overly much on SPF.

      Very, very few mail servers check SPF. It would not be possible to rely overly much on SPF.

  35. At QuantumG - Short Story SPAM by goofy183 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These are meant to poison filters. The idea being if they send a lot of messages with text they know that don't look like spam they can poison the filters and later use those known words/patterns to get real spam through the filter. There are likely other bits they are trying to poison as well with the non-SPAM SPAM messages.

  36. SPF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "you just configure a TXT record"...

    Can't do that. All of the places where I have registered domains don't allow the addition of TXT records in their web-based domain editors.

    Why? Don't know. I have been asking for the feature 1-2 years ago and the request has been ignored.

  37. essay spam by dandante · · Score: 1

    Essay/short story spam--it's distributed travesty! http://runme.org/project/+travesty/

  38. Haven't you heard? by krebs+junge · · Score: 1

    It's because of all the botnet / bot net spam of course!

  39. OCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how difficult it would be to detect if included images contain lots of text, and rate them as "likely spam".
    There would be no need to really read the text. Any image that contains more than a certain number of "likely words of text" would get some score towards being spam.

  40. How to filter out image spam by macintologist · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out this link http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/01/mailapp-rule-f ix-for-image-spam/ It's for Apple Mail, but can be applied to any mainstream email app.

  41. too bad you can't short by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This site has a list of spam stocks, most are big losers. Too bad you can't short them... spamstockracker.com

    1. Re:too bad you can't short by webweave · · Score: 1

      Or create a fund to short spamed stocks and use the profit to catch spammers.

  42. Plagued mainly by backscatter by mianne · · Score: 1
    I'm not receiving a huge increase in spam directly sent to me either. But I am getting a TON of backscatter as spammers are using random word|gibberish@[mydomain].com to send spam. It's gotten to the point where I have filtered 'postmaster@','ndn',etc. at my server, but still get swamped with verification emails, vacation auto-replys, group join requests, etc.

    I'm reasonably knowledgeable about working with CPanel (all I have to work with on a a reseller account. But it feels as though I need to RTFM for SMTP in order to decipher how to use SPF when most my domain's email originates via my home DSL (covad.net) and must be sent via smtpauth.earthlink.net as they filter port 25.

    What would be a much better solution all the way around IMHO is if servers were set up only to generate bounce messages to local users, and if people would STOP using challenge-response systems to try and combat spam--they only create more spam for everyone else!

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  43. I think you're all missing the point by adamkennedy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yet another group of people all saying how they'd solve the current spam problem, by addressing the current problem. Let's make better OCR!!!!!!! Let's write "true AI" grade image recognition! When will it end?

    Don't you people know that the bad guys can program too?

    I'm amazed these anti-spam companies don't have their own private small armies of grey-hats trying to break their own products. I swear half these stupid ideas would just go away.

    Personally, I think it's time we move to a completely different model, and do a bit of biomimicing.

    We already have the equivalent of skin and cell walls, protection of networks and computers against outside pathogens.

    What we really lack is an effective way of dealing with viral cells (computers). The fact that the internet continues to tolerate these hundreds of thousands of hosts I find rediculous.

    The fact that most of these spam detection systems are held by private that don't share them is insulting.

    I think what we need is a more real-time approach to spam and viruses and all bad behaviour, by just quarantining those machines (more or less) off the internet.

    Something like this.

    1. Re:I think you're all missing the point by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      > We already have the equivalent of skin and cell walls, protection of networks and computers against outside pathogens.

      Cells use whitelisting.

      Whitelisting does not work for letting your new customers email you.

      next idea ?

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  44. I use gmail too by Kittyflipping · · Score: 1

    I've had 2 spam messages in my GMail Inbox today. I love GMail too, but catching 20 out of 22 spam messages for today isn't that great.

  45. ASSP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya'll should use ASSP. It rejects spam at the SMTP level so the sender gets a nondelivery message. This is nice for false positives because the sender gets notified. It also saves some bandwidth because your server doesn't have to send a message, it just sends an error code during the SMTP session.

    Features:
    - RBL
    - SPF
    - Bayesian
    - Detects forged HELO
    - Message delaying
    - Automatic whitelisting of email addresses you send email to
    - Email interface to reclassify spam/nonspam messages for training

    BTW, SPF isn't that good. Spammers have adapted and many have valid SPF records.

    http://assp.sourceforge.net/

  46. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 1

    There's still raging debate about the effectiveness of SPF in the war on SPAM.

    While I agree that it will help prevent forgery of your own domain, it doesn't really prevent the spammers from setting up SPF records for their domains with really loose rules, thus circumventing the "I know who sent this" part of SPF.

    And, not to be too negative, SPF still doesn't have a good solution for secondary delivery (BackupMX, email forwarders, etc).

    If you're still positive on the technology, you might want to consider adopting Sender ID. Despite being a Microsoft-pushed tech, it does a "little bit more" in verifying both the "envelope from" and the "friendly from" are from a permitted domain. And, for waht it is worth, Microsoft recently put it under the Open Specification Promise.

    One thing we can certainly all agree on: we'd like to see a permanent solution for the spam menace. >8(

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  47. Tell the truth by grcumb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is there any chance whatsoever that we might somehow convince people to start telling the whole truth?

    Levine's assumption is this spike in spam levels is a result of a new generation of viruses and zombies that can infect PCs more quickly and are harder to get rid of. In its October report, messaging security vendor MessageLabs says the spike is largely due to two Trojan programs, Warezov and SpamThru.

    This description is almost a lie. This is not malware for PCs. This is malware for Windows. Not Linux, not 'PCs', Not Mac, Not Amiga, BeOS, Wind River, Next, BSD... whatever.

    I'm not bashing, creating FUD or anything else. This Is Not A Trap. I'm just sick and tired of being painted with the same brush as Windows. The 'PC Virus' term is misleading; it makes my life a lot more difficult when I have to go to great lengths to explain to people that, actually, almost all of this malware only affects Windows and the software that runs on it.

    Try to imagine how Bayer would have responded if the poison Tylenol scare in the late 80s were characterised in the media as 'poison headache remedy'? They would have freaked, and consumers would have, too. Journalists have a duty to report accurately and completely on issues that affect us, and this intellectual laziness is starting to look more and more like dishonesty as time goes on.

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    1. Re:Tell the truth by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mmm well. I work in IT Security for a university.. we're used to seeing random PC's get infected with stuff and sending out spam. We were surprised when a few weeks ago we saw our main linux shell machine sending out 14000 spams in an hour. Investigation showed that the spam kiddies had found out login details and setup a perl script to send spam from it. We've also seen it before from MacOS X machines running SSH with weak passwords.

      In other words, I suspect it's probably not a great long term plan to be smug about windows vulnerabilities causing all of the problems. It will continue to be one, for sure, but the spammers have other tricks which are contributing to the problem :/

    2. Re:Tell the truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know the truth hurts - but 99% of the desktops are windows so it's seldom worth the extra text.

  48. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I used to work for a spam company. They would buy 10 domains a week at $5/domain (reseller license). I setup SPF records for all of those domains because it would reduce the spam score at some ISP's if mail came from a domain with a valid spf record. We were making $20k/day, so the cost of buying a domain was minimal. SPF records aren't quite used the way they should be.

  49. just block .gif's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We use Antigen, and I've noticed 100% of the image-based stuff is a .gif attachment. I've nothing against the .gif format, however, I can't think of a single user who has used it for email purposes - everyone I know or can think of has, does, or will be using .jpg.

    It'd be nothing to configure Antigen to just drop anything with a .gif attachment. This is under review in our office atm.

    Granted, it's not a very elegant solution...but it's simple and will work until a better filter or engine comes along.

    1. Re:just block .gif's by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      > I can't think of a single user who has used it for email purposes.

      Alow me to introduce myself. I am a user that sends gifs as part of HTML email.

      Nice to meet you.

      Except you can't see my mesage!

      --------------030401050800030004040105
      Content-Type: image/gif
      Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
      Content-ID:

      R0lGODlhyACfAOf/AP1mDflqC/lpGfRsF/BvIOxyIOtyKPxsHO h1KOR4J+V4MOB7MteANfty

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  50. Why don't the BB companies enforce TOS? by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    I mean, if I set up a web server on port 80 (assuming it isn't blocked), or other port - and they find out, they can shut my service down according to the TOS with Cox (probably the same with other providers, Speakeasy excluded).


    Now - that is a web server, something fairly innocuous which I SHOULD be able to run if I want to.

    Meanwhile, we have SPAM zombie Windows boxen spewing tons of crap out their ports, acting exactly like outbound mail servers, sending junk nobody wants, and the user doesn't know...

    I would think the broadband companies would shut that down very quickly, if nothing else than to lower their bandwidth costs (or avoid overages on peering agreements, if that). I bet that if I set up a secure mail server and used that instead of the one they provide for sending and recieving email, they would have me shut down fairly quick.

    Something is fishy here - are the BB companies in bed with the guys sending SPAM? On a side note - is it possible to appear as a SPAM zombie without sending SPAM, and instead be a webserver (ok, I am not serious here - I just think this two-faced hypocrisy is a load of crap - either give me open ports or enforce your damn TOS across the board).

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    1. Re:Why don't the BB companies enforce TOS? by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is 6 months ago thinking.

      Spam botnets now have so many client machines that Joe Spammer only needs to send out 10 or 20 messages per system per day, and he sends them out slowly.

      As soon as a solution seems "obvious" to "everyone", the spammers have moved on. I work for a university, looking after IT Security. We still get people ask us why we don't do bayesian filtering on our ~700,000 emails per day (hint: when 85% of your email is spam, it doesn't help much) or OCR (1: CPU load++, 2: spammers now use animated gifs with noise, split in the middle of rows and re-layouted with HTML).

  51. Re:I use gmail too by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

    Make sure to mark them as spam, it constantly gets better. :)

    Compare this to my Yahoo or Hotmail inbox, both of which put the MAJORITY of spam into my Inbox. Last time I checked Hotmail, over 1000 spam in my Inbox, about 30 spam in the spam folder...

  52. SPF isn't supposed to block spam by Kelson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Spammers have adapted and many have valid SPF records.

    And this is a problem because... you can validate it, know that the spam really came from the spammer's own domain, and blacklist them. No, wait, that isn't a problem.

    SPF was never about stopping spam, or about bypassing filters. It was about identifying forged senders at the domain level. It happens that there's a high correlation these days between the two, and in the long run knowing whether the sender is valid will be a useful piece of input in spam filters. And of course spam is what gets the headlines.

    If you have some way of validating that the sender is who they say they are, you can do a number of things:

    • Whitelist/blacklist based on domain name. (SpamAssassin provides hooks for this, and SARE provides some rulesets that make use of them)
    • Don't send C-R challenges to a sender that you know is forged.
    • Only send C-R challenges to a sender that you know is valid.
    • Don't send bounce notices to forged senders.
    • Block messages with forged senders, or treat them with suspicion.

    The main problem is that neither SPF nor DomainKeys has reached critical mass. Not enough places have implemented them, and implemented them strictly, for it to be worth checking. Not enough places are checking for it to be worth implementing.

    Part of it is inertia. And there are still two main problems: forwarding services and road warriors. Both have solutions. You can have an SPF-aware forwarder, or one which implements DomainKeys. You can set up SMTP-AUTH on the submission port and remote users should theoretically be able to send using the home server (unless the network is brain-dead and blocks port 587 in addition to 25. And I have no doubt that they exist).

    Whether SPF will prove useful in the long run is, I think, still up in the air. But saying that it's useless because spammers have "adapted" to it is missing the point.

  53. Image spam? by slackmaster2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The experts are implying that image spam is a new trick, and in a large part responsible for the increase in spam lately. However, it seems to me that image spam is a very old trick that spam filters are trained for. My spam filters block all messages that only contain images, for instance. I suppose that a mixture of text and images is what is effective, but from the filter's point of view, it doesn't matter much that the image is there. The spammers have already been using tactics like this, with or without images, for a long time. And in my little corner of the universe, image spam hasn't been getting through any better than spam without images.

    Anyhow, I'm seeing a massive increase in spam since late September. While our filter is effective, the sheer volume has meant that many more junk messages are getting through. I think that what a lot of people fail to realize is that while the problem of spam can be dealt with effectively for personal email, especially if you take advantage of an online service like gmail, it's a totally different ballgame in the corporate world where spam is a tricky and costly problem. Work email addresses get published (thus harvested) for a number of legitimate reasons, and once mailbox is on the radar it seems like the rest of them start getting sucked in. Some employees can effectively ignore their junk boxes, but others simply can't -- it can be costly to miss an email. This reduces spam filtering for these employees to a simple ranking system: "here are messages that are probably legit and you should look at right away, and here are a whole shitload of messages that are probably junk but there might be an important one in there somewhere."

    My organization is relatively small, and we don't benefit from hundreds or thousands of users training the filter. Thus when there's a large increase in spam that's getting through, it can take the filter a while to learn to block them effectively. During this time it's not uncommon for the occasional legitimate message to be sent to the spam filter by a user who doesn't notice it tucked into the 75 new messages in his mailbox, and this makes matters even worse. Finally, it's really hard to get users to send their junk mail to the filters, even when you've got it setup as a simple drag & drop procedure that's just as easy as deleting. If you can only convince a percentage of your people that training the filters actually works and is important, and you only have say 50-100 employees, then you may not have near the support required to really make Bayesian filtering work to its potential effectiveness.

    Anyhow, over here we've seen a huge increase in spam, with some email-heavy users who used to get 10 in their inbox per day now getting 30 to 50 or more, and with potentially hundreds going to junk boxes. (this has decreased, I think things have settled down during the past week) We run a variety of filtering measures including header checks, DNS blacklists, and Bayesian analysis but just enough spam is able to get through on a daily basis to make things difficult. Back to my original topic: virtually none of the spam getting into user inboxes has been image spam, and only a small percentage of blocked spam is image spam.

    Stats from last thirty days here: Messages Processed: 91588, Spam: 72881, 80%. A large portion of our legitimate messages are internal, which are not "filtered", but still counted by the system. A large number of spam messages are getting through, so I would conservatively bump that percentage up to 83-85%.

    What an absurd problem. I'm going to have to put more effort into reducing its affect.

    1. re: Image spam? by kimvette · · Score: 2, Interesting

      by slackmaster2000 (820067)
      The experts are implying that image spam is a new trick, and in a large part responsible for the increase in spam lately. However, it seems to me that image spam is a very old trick that spam filters are trained for. My spam filters block all messages that only contain images, for instance. I suppose that a mixture of text and images is what is effective, but from the filter's point of view, it doesn't matter much that the image is there. The spammers have already been using tactics like this, with or without images, for a long time. And in my little corner of the universe, image spam hasn't been getting through any better than spam without images.


      (I'll echo others here: where is the threading?)

      The problem is, spam isn't just an image now. It's:


        [ image ]

      In a tube without warning the face of buddhist grew sullen Black angry mouths, the clouds swallowed up the obliged The air was lowhanging with suppressed excitement The account howled through the fires and sobbed and unfathomable in the secret of the holes The chime of the technology bell flowed out into the trooping The flirt notes the holy chant heavyduty with the storm like riotous angels with Satan At last the fraudulent of graphically lay vanquished. The grill paused in its course to do merriwether to God. emissary however alanding clap of thunder smote the sky The afloat chime of the scarves off with a a blockaders dissonance Demons seemed the brethren occupations plaque with gleaming eyes and trembling galileo the militant army of Godswept up finance stairs mumbling the ritual of the danger Infected fusty by the belle hysteria Aubrey britches of the refreshed Unearthly noises like a deftly parody of the holy freshly that marks the elevation of the claims alarmed the ears the hightech monks unspeakable blasphemies icons with to wetting Rain came down spoiled cataract closing of lightning chased one oblique like battling fiery dragons. dimensions jangled hideously out of hallucinating lining and pressed experiment The bands through issues more then mingle and rubbed both sparrowhawks


      Throw in random prose, and you're not only tricking rules-based filters, but de-training bayesian filters. :(
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    2. Re: Image spam? by CrayDrygu · · Score: 1
      by kimvette
      Throw in random prose, and you're not only tricking rules-based filters, but de-training bayesian filters. :(

      How is that de-training anything? How much legitimate email do you get using the words: buddhist, sullen, lowhanging, howled, fires, sobbed, unfathomable, chime, trooping, flirt, chant, heavyduty, riotous, graphically, vanquished, merriwether, emissary, alanding, smote, afloat, scarves, blockaders, dissonance, demons, brethren, plaque, gleaming, trembling, galileo, militant, fusty, belle, hysteria, britches, unearthly, deftly, elevation, monks, blasphemies, cataract, oblique, jangled, sparrowhawks?

      So at least 43 words (20% of the message) are actually *good* bayes-fodder. There's another 29 words (14%) that I think are unlikely to be used often in ham (tube, suppressed, Aubrey, unspeakable, hideously, etc...). Another 20% (roughly) are words that shouldn't have a lot of effect (the, an, it, of, with, its, etc...), so if you take those out of the total, you get a message where 43% of the words are good indicators of spam.

      That sounds like pretty good training to me. Now, if the vocabulary of these spams changes frequently and significantly, then it might not be good training. But unless your ham often contains words like the ones I listed, then I don't think there's much "de-training" going on.

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    3. Re:Image spam? by RPGonAS400 · · Score: 1
      Our problem with this "newer" type of spam started in the first week of September. We are a small shop with only about 25 active email users. First all mail goes through GFI MailSecurity for virus & attachment checking and then it goes through GFI MailEssentials (ME) for anti-spam. We are quite pleased with it but these type of spam has them stumped so far also. The ME package is quite comprehensive using multiple filters. We have ours set in the following order:

      1. Custom Blacklist (to & from email addresses / domains)

      2. Various Whitelists

      3. DNS Blacklist

      4. Spam URL Blacklist

      5. Keyword checking

      6. Bayesian Analysis

      7. SPF

      8. Header checking

      We process about 1500 emails per day and during the weekdays about 67% are spam. On the weekend about 94% are spam! Our users were quite alarmed at these new image spam getting through since they are a bit spoiled by our good filters. Now the above named filters are catching more of these image spams but we still get about 30 per week companywide that slip through. What I am fighting for is for GFI to allow us to scan not just for keywords, but for certain HTML tags that always preceed these types of spam.

      Overall, it takes a many pronged approach to solve this and not just a simple "Add SPF".

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    4. Re: Image spam? by kimvette · · Score: 1

      They are reputedly grabbing random prose from the gutenberg project, so by scraping prose from hundreds of public domain works of literature they are throwing LOTS of stuff that could be found in ham into the emails, which over time will make bayesian filtering useless.

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  54. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 1

    I did this. It didn't help at all. Maybe whoever is joe-jobbing me is sending all the email to servers that don't have SPF checking. Sigh.

  55. Spam-detection vs. captchas by mi · · Score: 1

    As new versions of spam-filters get upgraded to detect text inside graphics and analyze it along with other text for spamminess, the spammers will, no doubt, start using "captchas" to make the detection harder.

    Research on the detection will then improve (much of it -- in Open Source), allowing the spammers to defeat the captchas currently used on web-pages...

    Information wants to be free, but there is something about keeping your designs secret from the enemy.

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  56. Not in this case by bkw · · Score: 1

    I use greylisting since years, love it and recommend it to other people.
    Unfortunately, the silver bullet is no more, the zombies got smarter.
    The current stock scams all come through our greylisting, so the senders must have a retry mechanism of some sort.

  57. remove all windows computers from the internet by EllynGeek · · Score: 1

    Then you'll see spam levels drop. Most spam is distributed via windows botnets. Thanks Billg for all you've done for the world.

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    1. Re:remove all windows computers from the internet by webweave · · Score: 1

      And you'll get rid of almost all spam targets too.

  58. SPF works for me, honeypots do too by jojomosko · · Score: 1
    I saw a huge increase in bogus-bounces (what someone called backscatter) to my domain in October. About 10k bounces/day more than in September. I added an SPF record covering my domain via the self-serve custom DNS record at my ISP (dreamhost.com).

    The result: a _dramatic_ decrease in bogus bounces from over 10k/day to about 60/day.

    There's no doubt that enough MTA out there are implementing SPF verification and rejecting the spammer's bogus attempts. Enough to make the spammers clean SPF-protected domains from their "why not use this domain in the From: just for the heck of it" lists.

    In my case it took minutes from the publishing of an SPF record, to seeing the sharp drop.

    My story in detail is here: http://yendor.com/nospam/

    My November stats look even better. I'm down to about 6500 spams/day (total, not just bogus bounces) none of which I actually see. This is down from the well over 10k/day October peak. Not sure this has anything to do with SPF though.

    I also have a solution (hey, works for me) for the recent increase in pump-and-dump GIF attachments. I'm taking multiple signatures of all MIME parts of anything hitting my honeypots and mark anything matching them as spam-by-association for a limited time.

    No more GIF attachment spam either.

  59. Image spam... by jemenake · · Score: 1

    Regarding the image spam that's on the rise, some spam filters are actually using OCR to turn the images into text and then scan them. There's a plugin for SpamAssassin called FuzzyOCR which does this. I'm testing it out and it actually succeeds on about half of the image spams I get (the other times, it crashes due to bugs in the various image converters that it relies upon).

    It does jack the server loads up, as you'd expect. Fortunately, one of the features that it uses is that it keeps a hash value (and the spam score it got) for all of the images that it OCR's, so it only has to do each image once.

    It is pretty surprising to see it work. With FuzzyOCR turned off, my test messages get scores of 2 or 3. With it turned on, the scores jump up to 20-30.

    1. Re:Image spam... by Kazrath · · Score: 0

      The major issue with OCR is the hardware needs. In smaller environments where one server can handle the 5-10k messages you receive in a day the additional workload may not be noticable. Alot of environments out there process 250k - several million messages a day through one or two filters. Throwing an OCR into the mix would require a large investment into hardware.

      Here's the fun part. When the next "New great feature" is put into modern mail clients we will see a new wave of a new pain in the butt type spam. Wait till we start recieving MPEG/AVI encoded embedded spam :)

  60. Image Spam by Kazrath · · Score: 0

    The major cause of all the spam is the .gif/.jpeg style spam. There has been a significant increase of this "newer" spam while the levels of older text type spam are still the same.

    What I found interesting (and was unable to locate) was some values a slashdotter posted for his environment. It was something like 8000 spam in OCT 2004 and 56000 spam in OCT 2005. It would be interesting to see what his OCT 2006 values were (If your reading this).

    As the article indicated the Zombie farms are going to be the largest problem. Using a form of greylisting to stop or throttle connections will allow you to remove much of the spam prior to it hitting your filters. For those who do not know... A zombie farm is basically a bunch of infected computers that can have commands run remotely against them that they will perform such as a script that generates SMTP traffic. In this case spammers will pay these zombie farm controllers currency to shoot out billions of spam messages.

    Anyway, Until we make it illegal to produce/profit of unsolicited email its just going to keep climbing.

  61. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by aggressor-on · · Score: 1

    So how much SPF protection do I need?

  62. re: SpamAssassin by 47Ronin · · Score: 1

    I use SpamAssassin and train it regularly against obvious spam. I've heard that this new crop of spam GIFs accompanying seemingly-normal text is mean to get through or even de-train Bayesian filters, but wouldn't SpamAssassin be able to recognize [snip] ...

    Yes and no. I use SA on my mail server with the additional SARE plugins. SA does recognize email with an attached GIF but really, it cannot detect much else beyond that. An attached GIF on a seemingly spam-like message (on my system) counts as 1.3 out of 6.0 (spam threshold) points. That's the SARE_GIF_ATTACH rule firing but beyond that, if that's all the message contains, there isn't anything for SA to count against that message except RBL and reverse DNS checks on the sender.

    On the flipside (and maybe I'm too generous in my scoring) stuff that gets into my Spam folder (6.0 points or higher, less than 7.0) is mostly text spam where the BAYES_99 rule fires. However, no other rule is violated and the message gets 6.0 points. I wonder if BAYES_99 is foolproof enough where I can score it 7.0 and will get auto-dumped to /dev/null in the future.

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  63. I've given up and offloaded to POSTINI by CFD339 · · Score: 1

    Postini isn't perfect, but it's good. It blocks something like 99% of the spam. Best of all for a small shop like mine with just a few mailboxes, the constant barrage of attempted deliveries each day never get on that network pipe I'm paying for. They don't busy my server with oddball filtering schemas or neural network comparisons (which is one technique I tried that was effective but processor intensive). Everything is very peaceful now my servers.

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  64. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by nachoboy · · Score: 1
    I really really would like to. My hosting provider (1and1) has given me the following two answers:

    August 2005:
    At the current time we do not offer the addition of SPF records to your DNS records. I have passed your concerns on to the development team as a suggestion to have them added to our services.
    November 2006:
    Unfortunately, we do not know yet if it is possible to add SPF records to DNS entries.
    I really don't want to get rid of them, as they have otherwise spectacular service with ginormous amounts of web space and transfer limits for very very cheap. I think they allow me to use external DNS services, but who wants to go through that hassle for any significant number of domains and subdomains.

    Anyone have suggestions for additional ways I can motivate my provider to provide support for SPF? Case studies/stories of other ISP's doing so would probably work best.

    Barring that, I'd take suggestions for good free/cheap DNS services.
  65. Aliases to track infections by bucketoftruth · · Score: 1

    I use aliases for every different website, forum, and merchant I sign up at. Like cdw@mydomain for CDW purchases, etc. It's very interesting to see which address is being used to get spam to me... which worries me because what if they made off with the rest of my account info? I always contact the vendor and explain to them that they've been compromised but they never believe me or I get a knucklehead support person who isn't capable of problem solving.

    At least I know who the offenders are and can delete the alias, thus eliminating that avenue of spam.

  66. what spam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use crm114.. It all goes to my spambox...
    I havent had to retrain it in at least 2 months.

  67. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by jojomosko · · Score: 1
    Well. I used to be a 1&1 customer too.
    I left them because of this and other inflexibilities.
    • Can't add custom DNS records
    • Can't have a simple user name (I hated their cryptic and long home-dir scheme)
    • Most importantly: can't run filters on the incoming mail servers
    I switched to dreamhost who for the same <$10/month price also doubled my storage to 4GB (and rising each month) and seem to be so much more friendly and flexible to reasonable requests.
  68. I agree about lax unix / linux security by SpamIsLame · · Score: 1
    In other words, I suspect it's probably not a great long term plan to be smug about windows vulnerabilities causing all of the problems. It will continue to be one, for sure, but the spammers have other tricks which are contributing to the problem :/
    Amen to that! I have been tracking one particularly rampant group of spammers and they DEFINITELY seek out *nix servers with root passwords set to any of the following (and I have proof): root password 123 1234 123456 123456789 admin passwd pass r00t In this day and age: who the hell is allowing this to continue?! Granted some of these have been hobbyist machines but I mean come on! What kind of idiot keeps a root password set as frikkin' "1234". You are part of the problem! People can debate about the security of *nix versus osx versus windows (ahem) all they like: if you set a top-level password to be something a 3 year old might pick: you are part of a very large problem. If a child porn site ends up hosted on your box: you have nobody to blame but yourself. (Please Note: several of the world's top spammers have verifiable ties to child porn) SiL
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    -- SiL / IKS / concerned citizen
  69. Reverse OCR by scombs · · Score: 1

    Wait.. if we devise a way of reliably defeating text-images in spam, wouldn't that help the spammers by giving them the tools to defeat text-in-image used by free email sites and the like? It's seems they're using our tools against us... again.

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    I get anywhere from 10 to 100 of these per day.
  71. Rule/filter to remove gif spam by iotaborg · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got this rule somewhere, and it seems to work for filtering out the gif spam for me:

    If the "content-type" header contains "multipart/related", classify as spam (and not in address book, previous recipients, etc).

    Don't know exactly what this implies, but seems to be working for me, otherwise I would be getting tons of gif spam that passed my server's spam assassin and my e-mail client's bayes filter.

  72. I don't think it is viruses and zombies by hunky-d · · Score: 0

    It could be, but all the spam I'm seeing is from countries other than the US. I do get one or two spams from the US a week. This could be in part due to us using blacklists, and those lists being more effective at blocking US spam - I don't know. But I've been building an access list for our mail server and all the ip numbers are from places like Russia, China, Poland, Germany, France, etc. Since we don't do business in general with other countries I can block them - but I know this isn't a good solution. But it is all I got right now. And most all of it is these image spams - though not all. Maybe these are zombied machines as well - but it just seems more like it is from the source spammers. Guess I have no reason to believe that.. heh.

  73. Whitelisting is the only long-term answer by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reputation systems that assert "x is not a spammer", perhaps with some delegation, is the only long-term answer. Blacklisting was a decent heuristic for a while, IMHO, but it is now approaching end of life.

    But whitelisting will require authentication. Are you openpgp-signing your mail yet? If not, then you're part of why whitelisting can't take take off yet. You're part of the spam problem.

    BTW, one thing I don't get about image spam, is how they get the receivers to look at the image. When I receive a spam, especially one with a lot of nonsense text, it doesn't even occur to me to examine the attachments. It's not so much paranoia about a libpng buffer overflow or something, as it is lack of curiosity.

    All I can think of, is that there is some popular email client out there, which shows attached images automatically whether or not the user expressed an interest in the attachments. If that's what's happening, then that email client needs a patch.

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    1. Re:Whitelisting is the only long-term answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many email programs automatically display the images inline.

    2. Re:Whitelisting is the only long-term answer by blopstop · · Score: 1

      1) Reverse DNS (IP address to name) is generally controlled by network admins at the ISP/Backbone level.
      2) Putting in some additional record (suggestions?) for each IP address indicating that it is a mail server and should be directly sending mail would be relatively easy.
      3) If a receiving mailserver saw this was a trusted mailserver IP it could assign more trust to message (by lowering the spam score).

      I don't think this would solve everything, but I am sure it would help. It puts a second qualified party, who is accustomed to dealing with customers and ip, in the position of legitimizing ip addresses that should be mail servers.

      LLB

  74. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!!

    What the fuck is SPF?!?!?! Tell me NOW!!!!!

  75. Block images by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
    From TFA:"Tumbleweed on Tuesday introduced its Adaptive Image Filtering technology designed to block image spam by using an image-processing technique called wavelet transform,...."

    Why bother analysing the images? Block all email with attached images. Whitelist your friends and usual correspondents in case some insist on using "stationery" or sending images.

  76. Filter on MIME type multipart/related and .gif by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If content type is "multipart/related"
    And:
    Any attachment name contains ".gif"
    And:
    Sender is not in my address book
    Then:
    Move message to folder "Spam Can"

    Translate rules as necessary for your favorite mail client.
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  77. Huh... easy solution to image spam by MadCat · · Score: 1

    Just disallow anything that isn't text/plain content type and there you go, no more image spam. Stupidest move ever to allow HTML in e-mail.

    On my own mailserver I discard any text/html messages, and mixed messages get the text/html bit stripped out of them. So sorry if I didn't get your important e-mail, send it to me in plain text, without the cute corporate background, without the cute corporate mandated font, and without the 10 attachments that make up the various bits of your signature and corporate disclaimer. And do include a text/plain representation of your e-mail, or I won't receive it, and will not now, or ever, give a crap :D

    Works fine.

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    1. Re:Huh... easy solution to image spam by Net_fiend · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This only works for certain people. If you are, say, an ISP you really can't do this. You'd have a ton of angry beating down the door and ringing the phone off the hook. At my job we use SPF and our server uses OCR. The problem is that the spammers most likely use all the different types of mail software out there and find ways around the newest updates. Sort of like moles.

      SPF would be a huge help, but getting everyone to use it will be a task in and of itself. Let alone spammers picking it up and using it. But that still only attacks the e-mails that are spoofs. What really needs to happen is just to scrap the current implementation of e-mail and create a whole new system which incorporates some sort of accountability. Not an easy task by any means I know and I have no suggestions on how this could work or if its even possible. I only see the spam getting more difficult to defeat in the end due to all the scanning/scripts that are in use currently. Eventually it will get to the point where false positives are just too high making the way we currently do e-mail worthless.

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  78. A solution by Lokatana · · Score: 1

    I manage the email department for a large financial institution. We have seen our spam volumes quadruple in the last 3 months, to over 70,000,000 spam messages per week. However, being a large financial institution, we have $$$ to spend, so we purchased Ironport Anti-spam this past spring. The amount of email (mostly legit) going through our filters in this same 3 month period has remained completely flat - even with the increase of spam on our perimeter, no more is getting through than 3 months ago. For those of you struggling with the spam situation and have money to burn, you may want to look into Ironport. -Lokatana

    1. Re:A solution by Lokatana · · Score: 1
      Oh, I should add a few other points:

      • We block about 97%-98% of all incoming messages at our perimeter.
      • I have personally received 1 (one) spam message in the last 2 weeks
      • my executive, who used to receive a significant amount of spam under our old solution, hasn't received more than 1 per week in the last month.
      • We basically don't even notice spam issues anymore - except when we see our Ironport appliances CPU cycle up to almost 60% during high volume times. We're going to add a 5th appliance, and that should do us for a while.
      -Lokatana
    2. Re:A solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, great that you are shilling for IronPort, too bad they play both sides of the spam game to their own advantage - arms dealers.
      Look, the famously pompous internet ass Brad "I am associated with the _reference_ implementation and it is perfect, so don't question it*" Knowles doesn't like them:
      sage blah blah blah

      * Although, for some unknown reason, he basically retracted most of his vemonous "OpenNTPD sucks, I am associated with the reference implementation" rant -
      I wonder who got to him and told him to STFU? ...

  79. One word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    X'mas!

  80. Specifics by gx5000 · · Score: 1

    I don't mean to be selfish here but there are other factors as well...
    Leading here on Rogers is the Mail servers being switched over to Yahoo...
    We all know what kind of privacy policy THEY have don't we.....
    I NEVER got spam before this, and then I started getting fifteen a day...
    Now It's between twenty to forty a day...thank god for filters but what
    about the bandwith it's wasting ?! I'm seriously considering sending them a
    charge for sending me this unsolicitated e-mail from their Parent/child
    spam companies...I complained of course back then, and got the usual "do this to help protect yourself"...
    But what happens when your ISP is the main factor in your e-mail addy being passed around ?!

    Cheers

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  81. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by timerider · · Score: 1

    So i guess you can imagine why i moved my domain OFF the _free_ webhosting that comes with my 1& DSL towards a hoster that actually lets me edit my zonefile myself...

  82. The problem is not the spam itself... by timerider · · Score: 1

    ...but the morons who actually BUY spamvertized products.

    As long as there's ONE SINGLE PERSON on the 'net who follows the stock advice, buys the phenomenally new herbal shlong enlargement pills, etc, the criminals who want to sell them will keep giving jobs to spammers.

    Solution:

    1. make it illegal to advertize by spamming. make it equally illegal to pay others to do it for you.
    2. make it illegal to buy products that have been advertized for in any way thats not legal.
    3. make sure that any civilized country does the same.
    4. hit them hard.

    bye,
    [L]

    1. Re:The problem is not the spam itself... by joto · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that sounds like a rational, well thought out plan to get rid of spam. Why don't you start doing it?

  83. Re:i have no confirmed proof other than ethereal l by nevesis · · Score: 1

    This is really interesting.

    Could you post this log somewhere? Rapidshare or something?

    I'm aware of a UPNP buffer overflow which could result arbitrary code installing spambots, but I've never heard of anything like this in the wild.

  84. It's a mess all right by megabunny · · Score: 1

    We get masses of backscatter spam (looks like a joe job, but it isn't intentional). The most effective seems to be to check the recipient at smtp time and reject the message. SMTP time delays help some, but not enough by themselves. Then run the remaining two percent through SA with lots of inputs and we get maybe 0.1% of incoming spam delivered at this point.

    Please stop bouncing spam to forged senders. We can live with the aimed spam, but all that backscatter is a huge waste of net resources.
    MB

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  85. 89.76% of all my email is spam. (last 30 days) by chrisloup · · Score: 1

    Approx. emails checked 38,313 100.00% Approx. emails blacklisted 25,583 66.77% Approx. emails whitelisted 9,810 25.60% Approx. emails passed check 2,920 7.62% Spam Rate - 89.76% --- #1 Keyword Filtering 65.03% 57.50% #2 Recipient Blacklist 24.95% 34.89% #3 SURBLs 11.83% 11.48% #4 DNS Blacklists 6.60% 6.62% #5 HELO Blacklist 1.08% 1.20% #6 Reverse DNS 5.14% 0.82% #7 Greylisting 0.25% 0.70% #8 SPF Test 3.25% 0.64% #9 Attachment Filtering 1.40% 0.17% #10 External Agents 1.12% 0.13% #11 Sender Blacklist 0.04% 0.04% #12 Active Directory Integration 0.00% 0.00% #13 IP Blacklist 0.00% 0.00% #14 User-Defined URL Domain Blacklist 0.00% 0.00% -- and for me.. SPF only contributes 0.64% to blocking spam..

  86. Stats by BigBadBus · · Score: 1

    I've just started collecting spam statistics based on a few modifications I made to my presence on the internet. Basically, I was getting about 100 spams per night. Now, after altering my email address when I post to newsgroups to include "nospam", and changing the mailto tags on my webpages to images of my email, my spam has gone down to about 30 per night - and still falling. I also access my email server side, before downloading (no broadband you see), and select unwanted messages to train SpamGuard - and this has helped a lot!

  87. image based spam by mennucc1 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I have two strategies against image based spam, for people using spamassassin (and for answering previous posts - damn this /. breakage):
    • add this codesnip to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf
      mimeheader MIME_IMAGE Content-Type =~ /image\/(?:gif|jpeg|png)/
      describe MIME_IMAGE Image in Mime
      score MIME_IMAGE 1.0
      feel free to pump up the score (and dont forget to restart spamd if you use it)
    • since the above was not enough , I started using FuzzyOCR , and it works great (the number of image spam went from 10/day to 0/ever); so I am planning to package it for Debian ; but the web page hints that there may be some security problem, so I am investigating.
  88. Spam spammyspam spam by Antifuse · · Score: 1

    Indeed, my gmail account has seen a DRAMATIC rise (something on the order of 150+ per day, from around 30 per day) in spam arriving in my spam folder. The occasional 1 or 2 still makes it through to my inbox, but most of those are foreign language, usually asian languages that I can't read anyway. It seems like a huge proportion of them are joe job spam bouncing back for my domain, as well. Annoying that the spammers have picked up my domain as a joe job domain, but what can ya do?

  89. procmail to the rescue by Dr.Ruud · · Score: 1

    Here a procmail recipe set to catch the gifspams: anti-gifspam

  90. Re: Sender Stores systems. by old+man+moss · · Score: 1

    Hey, sounds interesting. I implemented something similar when I was working on handwriting systems and wanted to send "handwritten emails". The email was just a notification with a URL to the handwritten page.

    It worked pretty well. One big plus was that the sender could tell if and when the message had been read! (or at least viewed)

    Obviously each sender had to have access to a server, which is a downer in some cases but should be fine for a web-based system.

    Best of luck with your project.

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  91. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, you can combine an external DNS provider with 1and1 - I use ZoneEdit.com, and it allows adding SPF records.

  92. Windows zombies by nickos · · Score: 1

    Microsoft must take some of the blame for this. Windows' lack of security has led to these huge Windows botnets, and the only way to solve the problem is for these boxes to switch to a more secure OS. If Vista has really fixed the security issue as Microsoft claims, maybe they should be giving it away free to solve this problem which they caused...

  93. Late but..chime the 'I don't get spam mesages'. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew that would be the reponse from most of you. 'What spam?'.

    Morons.

    No one CARES if we techies can get our spam filters working - that is NOT the case for most of the world and that does NOTHING for the amount of bandwidth being sucked up by these parasites.

    Seriously, slashdot could basically do keyword comparison of articles of the last few years and simply repost the wannabe commedians along with the 'What - never happens to me'. The posts would be just about as informative. This site has become a place for people with no lives to post the same crap over and over again. You seldom actually ANSWER the question posed by people or response to what the freaking article is about. It's stupid jokes or microsoft bashing - and then you chuckle to yourself for being funny - if any of you WERE funny, at least it would be amusing to read.

    AND to NOT be one of you people:
    I've certainly noticed a spam spike - also a spike in the payload containing a virus, though that has subsided. I'm still trying to understand why we allow this to go on. I guess the problem is bandwidth keeps getting cheaper - I just don't see the ISPs not taking draconian steps to correct the problem if they were bleeding cash from it. I suspect that as long as bandwidth cost keeps dropping we can expect the big players to do nothing - it's cheaper and easier than fixing the problem.

  94. And people buy the stocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People actually see spam touting a stock and buy it.. (??).
    Here's some info (from early October) showing that the spammers do influence trading and also that their claims are totally bogus (just in case someone actually believed them.. yikes).

  95. Very Light filters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We could think specifically what is our main set of email senders and use filters based on that.
    An example: I work for a Portuguese university newspaper.
    We have a lot of domains which go directly to the same inbox, as we have a big exposure we get really a huge amount of SPAM, so we are thinking about rejecting any email if it does not fulfil at least one of this conditions:

    1 - The sender being at our email adress agenda
    2 - Have written in the sender email '@yahoo', '@gmail' or '@hotmail'
    3 - The sender having a '.pt' domain in their adress
    4 - The message being written in Portuguese

    This is really effective, and is dramaticly light.
    No image processing, no baysian filters, no need to check IP, no needing to resend the message

    1 - The majority of the people to who we communicate are known of us, so it is likely to be in our agenda
    2 - The majority of people who have non-institutional email have it or in yahoo, hotmail or gmail.
    3 - As wew are a Portuguese newspaper we beleive the main set of our senders have '.pt' domain email server
    4 - If a stranger who doesn't fulfil any of the above clauses tries to reach us via e-mail it is likely to do it in a well written and clear Portuguese, so the filter will accept them.

    NOTE : We reject all messages execpt it they fulfil at least one of this conditions described above.

    English is the most popular language in worlwide email comunications, so as a consequence more than 50% of SPAM is written in English, so it could be a tool for a non Eglish native speaker to use within one anti-SPAM filter.
    Being a newspaper we want to receive emails from strangers but almost 100% sure they fit on at least one of those conditions.

    1. Re:Very Light filters by Ziwcam · · Score: 1

      Bummer for me, if I wanted to write you, and didn't know how your filters were set up. I've got a total of 5 addresses that I check frequently. Only one of those would get past that filter of yours, and ironically enough, thats the e-mail address I give out to people I suspect will spam me. I guess its a good thing I don't have any breaking news to try to report to you. =)

  96. Mailwasher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.mailwasher.net/

    Its a band-aid, but a very useful one for users of pop mailboxes.

  97. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by sk8king · · Score: 1

    Sender Policy Framework. Almost like a reverse MX record that states what servers/IP addresses mail for a specific domain can come from.

    One of the most interesting parts about it is the availability of the 'exists' function. By placing an 'exists' statement in your spf record and using some of its variables, you can actually record in your DNS logs what IP addresses are sending email from your domain. You can also see what users are sending from what IP addresses [and what accounts are bogus]. This only works when some mail server receives a mail from your domain and they ARE checking SPF records though. Mail servers that are not using SPF will not generate these specially formed DNS queries.

    Interesting information. It will allow you to study email regarding your domain allowing you to enforce SPF [instead of just using the ~all suggestion] when it will least affect your customers.

  98. No wonder you're an AC. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No wonder you're an AC.

  99. We must be hallucinating by kidtwist · · Score: 1

    As we all know, the spam problem was fixed when congress passed the CAN SPAM act.

  100. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by jenglish · · Score: 1

    Yeah, whatever. Setting up SPF might (or might not) be helpful for something, but it won't do a thing to decrease the volume of spam being sent.

  101. Change email without changing the infractructure by AndySilva · · Score: 1

    I am collaborating with the Zorean team on the EmailXT project, a new protocol for email that, among other things, allows everyone to switch to the new system at their own pace: you don't need to wait for the whole world to switch before you can use it. You need, of course, at least another EmailXT user to correspond ;) It's not a painless transition as you might have imagined, as you'll have to use two email clients during the transition phase. But you can use both clients on the same email address.

    EmailXT features seamless encryption and compression, self-updatable address books, tasks and events, no spam and viruses (ie. no way to perform unauthorized bulk emailing), file sharing, among others. Read more at the site. Warning : Pre-Alpha stage.

    Ah, and EmailXT is an open, patent-free protocol. The first specification draft will be published before the end of the month...

    Sorry for the plug, but I guess I'm still on topic.

  102. you're right, but people don't see the difference by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    For both the audience that the media is writing for, and for the media themselves, a PC *is* Windows. They understand that. When I tell people that my computers (all linux or BSD) have never gotten any viruses, that they've never (to my knowledge) gotten taken over or infected with anything, that I don't have to run antivirus programs, they look at me like I have something wrong in my head unless they already know a lot about computers. The general public has accepted viruses and trojans as the cost of doing business with Windows.

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  103. Re:i have no confirmed proof other than ethereal l by macdaddy · · Score: 1

    Have you talked to CERT about this? I'm sure they'd be interested. What about D-Link itself?

  104. How do spammers make money? by alexo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I used to work for a spam company... We were making $20k/day

    Ignoring for the moment your admission of guilt, how did you make that $20k/day?
    Who was paying you?
  105. a couple of tricks... by kelleher · · Score: 1
    to reduce the impact of SpamAssassin overhead - true, this doesn't reduce the overhead itself, but it has kept it from becoming noticeable to my users:
    1) I use spamc/spamd instead of invoking spamassassin directly - big save on a busy server.
    2) Limit the size of emails being scanned - spammers usually use small messages since larger ones are more expensive (cpu and network) to send. This will probably change someday since botnets reduce this cost.
    3) Limit the number of spamc/spamd invocations to 1/user via a procmail lockfile also double locksleep to keep to make this even nicer.
    4) Limit the number of spamd children (done by default in most distributions).

    Here's my /etc/procmailrc -

    DROPPRIVS=yes
    # Double the default LOCKSLEEP.
    LOCKSLEEP=16
    ## Filter email through Spamassassin if it's smaller than 256KB
    ## only invoke spamc if the user doesn't already have it running.
    :0fw : ${HOME}/.spamc.lock
    * < 256000
    | /usr/bin/spamc
  106. Not "detraining" by Kelson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But if you train these messages as spam, and they send similar messages with links, those messages will actually be more likely to be recognized as spam.

    What they're more likely to succeed at is not detraining the filters but overtraining them. By sending innocuous text and getting it trained as spam, your filter is more likely to mark normal mail as spam, thus increasing the level of false positives and resulting in a filter which marks spam, but isn't terribly useful.

    At least, that's the theory, and the more likely goal. I use SpamAssassin, and I generally train on these anyway. I don't see many false positives, and of those I do see, very few (if any at all in the past year or so) have been attributable to the Bayesian portion of the analysis.

    YMMV.

  107. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by dpilot · · Score: 1

    I'm a domain owner preparing to set up SPF.

    I still believe can still help, even though you're right. For any given person, the spam goes from the spamming (probably zombie) machine to that machine's ISP, then to the destination machine's ISP, then to the destination machine. Ordinary mail usually hops through an "administered mail relay" twice, and each of those hops is an opportunity to kill it with SPF. There has been much made of ISPs who know their users are spammers, but given that we're talking about zombies here, I don't think the ISPs of those zombie machines are spam-friendly. If SPF were pervasively used in this situation, it would cut spam traffic by 1/3 to 2/3, simply by dropping it on the floor sooner. Of course if SPF were pervasively used spammers would be seeking some other way to get their messages out.

    I have a forwarding domain with DynDNS, so my mail takes 1 extra hop, and has 1 extra chance to get killed.

    I believe on of my mother's friends has an infected machine, because a month or 2 back, I saw an upsurge in bounce notices being sent back to me. I'm getting Joe-jobbed big-time. I've looked at the headers, and not only is the 'originator' not a valid ID at my domain, the whole things is forged. In the past week I've gone to the trouble and expense to get Mailhop Outbound at DynDNS, have set up all of my domain's email to go through it, and next will set up an SPF record. Whoever respects SPF can easily detect and kill this stuff. I've done my part.

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  108. Still Spam-Free... by sudog · · Score: 1

    So I don't really know what any of you are talking about.

    October was a spammy month? Hrm. My condolences.

    No bayesian training, no spam filters, no whitelists, no blacklists, and my MX is wide open: no DNS blacklists either.

    Oh well. My condolences for those of you who can't use one-off aliases and keep perfect control over who has which alias and where.

    1. Re:Still Spam-Free... by neminem · · Score: 1

      It was definitely a spammy month for me... I have a spam filter with bayesian training. Never had anything to train it on before, though, because I never got any spam to it. I do have pretty darn perfect control over who gets that email (as opposed to my public gmail account, that receives hundreds of spam a week, but that's why it's there). My private email, I've had for, oh, about 6 years, and I've gotten maybe one spam every couple months to it, until just now.

      A couple months ago, something found it. Don't know how. Now I'm getting a few spam a day. I can tell it's all from one place so far, though, because I'm only getting vast numbers of copies of the same couple of messages.

  109. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by turnipsatemybaby · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's all well and good, but I find it frustrating that with all the talk about SPF, I have yet to see any recommendations on the SPF level.

    I mean, is SPF 15 good enough? I have fair skin, so I've always used SPF 45.

    Also, which brand is preferable? Coppertone?

  110. Wiki and forum-based spam on the rise by skinfaxi · · Score: 1
    I'm the comment janitor for a Drupal-based web site. Users that don't want to register with the site can post comments anonymously but the anonymous comments sit in an approval queue until I can eyeball them. It's not too time consuming and I'm willing to do it to facilitate 'anonymous' speech.

    Needless to say, I get a lot of spam in the queue. I check the contents of the spam to set up filters to detect and autonuke frequently occuring phrases or website addresses.

    In the last month, I have noticed a serious rise in spam that is a list of URLs that are hosted on wikis and forums that obviously have nothing to do with the content of the spam (usually it's technical-related wikis and pr0n- and drug-related spam). Here's an edited sample:

    http://example.com/wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php?w=120&h= 120&media=8-somedumbchick-nude.html

    I've been notifying admins of the sites being abused when I have time (and when there is a contact address on the site). Some respond and some don't. One interesting response - "I'm surprised at how sophisticated the bot was - it arrived, appeared to look around, tried to edit, failed because it wasn't logged in, created a user, then proceeded to post things. I'll have to set up some kind of CAPTCHA."

    Keep an eye on activity on your wikis and forums. And please don't require creating an account to get access to your contact info!

  111. Re:Domain owners: Set up SPF NOW!!! by GWBasic · · Score: 1
    Yeah, whatever. Setting up SPF might (or might not) be helpful for something, but it won't do a thing to decrease the volume of spam being sent.

    When SPF is used it prevents spoofed mail from reaching receipients' inboxes. It significantly reduces the amount of bounces that a mail server sends when a spammer tries to send spam to non-existant email addresses. It also means that spammers have less domains that they can spoof, which does make their job harder.

    I know this is wishful thinking, but if all domains published SPF and all email servers enforced SPF, the spammers would have to start buying lots of domains.

  112. Re:i have no confirmed proof other than ethereal l by Neuropol · · Score: 1

    no, i hadn't gone any of those routes yet. i still have the modem in it's crippled state. you can plug it in and fire up ethereal and watch the show. good times. I think what ever it was may have tried to reach out to the three machines I had on the network and I was worried that it rooted linux and possibly got through to the bios.

    perhaps i'm just being overly paranoid, but better to err on the side of caution, i suppose.

  113. Re:i have no confirmed proof other than ethereal l by macdaddy · · Score: 1
    It never hurts to err on the side of paranoia. :-) Did you hear that...?

    It seems like I read about a DHCP exploit for D-Link routers some time ago. I'd contact a variety of groups, explain the situation and ask if they'd like to see the packet capture or possibily even the router (if you don't mind loaning it out). The contribution could be useful if it was a one-off exploit that hasn't been seen by many eyes yet.

  114. Re:i have no confirmed proof other than ethereal l by webweave · · Score: 1

    This is a pretty big deal if you're right. I'd like to keep track of this, you got a blog?