Anyone notice that all the shots of apps running on these things all had titlebars on them? Hell, some of them have titlebars and status bars. While the palm pilot silkscreened area is annoying, at least they designed their interface for a tiny screen. MS meanwhile just shoehorned the windows interface into a PDA, with no thought to space economy.
And they damn well better have improved ActiveSync (aka ActiveStink) before I even consider getting one of these.
I love how people go on about the evils of mystical cults, then in the next moment talk about how one of its members looks like he's possessed by evil spirits.
> J++ was fully compatable with Java, just with added functionality (which you could turn off if you wanted
J++ does not include RMI or JNI. Granted, I don't think JNI is terribly useful when you have wildly differing calling conventions (some kind of macro abstraction would have been better) but the lack of RMI was clearly to hobble the development of client/server systems that were not 100% Windows-based. On the plus side, it allowed companies like Objectspace to push cooll stuff like Voyager to fill the gap.
I never drank the Java koolaid, but there was something fishy about MS's selective implementation of the product they licensed...
Oh balls. Editorial discretion in any kind of publication allows for all kinds of corrections, from terminology to spelling and grammar. I guarantee the majority letters to the editor you read in the paper are not printed verbatim. Just about the only ones who get through unedited are syndicated columnists, and that's because they have their own editor who makes technical corrections before it's submitted.
It is, however, highly unprofessional to make public this correction. A private note to the submitter regarding the change would have been more than sufficient. I've submitted all of one story to slashdot (rejected, possibly on procedure grounds for choosing the wrong category). I'll think twice before submitting again.
> The ensuing 'inspections' caused prominent men, like George Washington, to complain of mail tampering
Poor baby. Washington's own Federalist party was responsible for the Alien and Sedition act which likely authorized this very thing. Poetic justice methinks.
> Your dad could be Michael Jordan, but if all you do is sit at your computer and eat junk food you won't make the NBA
No, but if you were a clone of Michael Jordan, it's unlikely you would be inclined to sit at your computer and eat junk food all day. 'course a butterfly flapping its wings in zimbabwe might cause a tree to fall on you sometime, leaving you in a wheelchair, unable to get in the NBA. pesky butterflies, always causing disasters;)
Learning how to find the sources is part of the research process in academia. Asking a public forum to find them for you should be a matter of last resort, and I sincerely doubt Plasmoid has pursued other avenues. DYOFH (Do Your Own Fucking Homework) is the standard academic equivalent to RTFM, and I think it needs to be used a lot more often. The Slashdot editors need to exercise some common sense judgement as well.
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What's CS's framerate? How well does it support really huge landscapes?
An editor I can see. Read markup, write markup. Has a very nice symmetry to it, and it's complex enough to need to wire it into the application.
But if javascript is inadequate to write even a basic POP mail client in, then what the hell is the point? To write rollovers? This was supposed to be a platform in itself, yet it seems the one and only language binding made for it cannot be used to write anything of significant complexity, such as a mail app.
UNIX was never really defeated. NT has yet to gain anything approaching a majority share in the data center market, where unix has reigned supreme for 20-odd years now. The majority of web and mail servers have always been unix.
Netscape on the other hand was lofted high then knocked off its perch at which point it collapsed under its own bloated and buggy weight. The best minds of the company have left, and we're expecting the skeletal remains now reanimated by AOL (who have also not set many records for software quality) to make a comeback?
I'm not holding my breath. The underdog I'd rather root for is Opera.
A terminal that requires gnome-libs and imlib? For a TERMINAL? I'm ok with the gtk+ requirement, you need that for tabs and whatnot. But damned if I'm going to install the thing on Solaris without pulling half of GNOME and a bloated monstrosity like Imlib with it. Trust me, I have many reasons to want a tabbed notebook interface, since I have to connect to dozens of servers and such, but I don't want something that needs me to install a whole linux subsystem just to use.
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> Wrong. Counterexamples could be named by the score.
I count zero in your post. How about some?
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> Do we understand the implications? (Score:3, Flamebait)
Hot damn, I wish I could write a post moderated UP and marked flamebait. THAT is what you call a good post:)
Could you all do me a big favor, dust off your english composition books, and learn to summarize and rebut with whole paragraphs? This point-for-point nonsense you and a thousand other would-be debate-club types foist isn't somehow incisive and well-related to the surrounding context, it's snippy, interruptive, and incoherent. Criminy, it's bad enough seeing a back-and-forth, it's dowright pathetic when half the responses are "oh yeah? says you!"
I may be guilty of abusing the snippy one-liner myself, but I don't go running a post through a shredder like some kind of dadaist art in order to deflect from the lack of coherency in my reply.
> What an absolute crock of shit. The only people posting that kind of idiocy are anonymous cowardly trolls...
> the paid Microsoft Astroturfers and FUDders who substitute ad hominim attacks against slashdot readers for well reasoned arguments.
> What you fail to realize is, there is only a vanishingly small minority of people here stupid enough to believe your propoganda.
If this is what passes for reasoned argument from your point of view, it's no wonder no one even condescends to offer their argument to the contrary. Just because you don't speak like a script-kiddie doesn't mean you offer any more reasoned analysis than one.
> I wonder what the perfomance of a MAME running on Windows 98 VM running inside of Vmware running on Windows NT running inside of Vmware running on Redhat running inside of Connectixes Virtual PC running on a Mac G4/450 would be?
Nonexistent. I can almost guarantee it wouldn't work. VMware didn't run itself recursively last I checked, for one.
You want real-world perverse twists tho, I plan to run Linux under FreeBSD by running it in VMware under Linux emulation:)
I should take that last remark back. Tanenbaum was regarded as arrogant and insular, but as far as I know, he never descended to accusing his rivals of academic dishonesty...
... In fact, this made me think that the microkernel approach was essentially a dishonest approach aimed at receiving more dollars for research. I don't necessarily think these researchers were knowingly dishonest. Perhaps they were simply stupid. Or deluded. I mean this in a very real sense. The dishonesty comes from the intense pressure in the research community at that time to pursue the microkernel topic. In a computer science research lab, you were studying microkernels or you weren't studying kernels at all. So everyone was pressured into this dishonesty, even the people designing Windows NT. While the NT team knew the final result wouldn't approach a microkernel, they knew they had to pay lip service to The idea.
This person calls the OS research community either intellectually dishonest or, and this just kills me, stupid or deluded. This from a guy who implemented SMP with a global kernel lock (that still exists, it's just masterfully hidden under several layers of macros)
Tanenbaum *would* be proud: Linus has become just like him.
They're the ones using an EIGHT BIT key and they call cphack "primitive"?
Doesn't matter tho, it's the same as CSS: they could use a million-bit key, but if the software reads the list, it has to decrypt it, so it has to have the key. I suppose they could use MD5 sums for the blocklist instead. I don't think they have the brightest of bulbs in R&D over there...
Much of that improvement would require improving X. Like antialiasing and making color management *actually* work (X in theory supports color profiles, I've never seen it implemented). Good luck getting any of that in.
I just like BeOS because it puts the lie to Linus's uninformed and defamatory ranting about microkernels.
Really? Give 'em the logs. I would like the Mattel Corporation to know that I, Charles Adams, a resident of the State of Colorado, own a copy of cphack.exe, and with intent, intend to distribute it from my my webpage, located at http://members.xoom.com/scrytch or by other means I find expedient. You may subpoena further information as to my from my Internet Service Provider, USWest.net. I will destroy all copies of cphack.exe in my possession and accept a permanent injunction against distributing this program when said injunction is issued after a hearing in civil court, so see you in court, motherfuckers.
Baldur's Gate was the prototype of the engine. Torment was the game. I quit BG in disgust before even *getting to* Baldur's gate, because I got so SICK of hearing the same music and blurbs. I think I just went for the delete about the 10,000th time I heard "I need a SWIG of some STRONG, DWARVEN ale". And the narrator's voice, it just struck me as... juvenile for some reason -- I think hearing a second-person narration helped that along. All in all it struck me as endless hack and slash with no hope for plot or even good character writing.
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Anyone notice that all the shots of apps running on these things all had titlebars on them? Hell, some of them have titlebars and status bars. While the palm pilot silkscreened area is annoying, at least they designed their interface for a tiny screen. MS meanwhile just shoehorned the windows interface into a PDA, with no thought to space economy.
And they damn well better have improved ActiveSync (aka ActiveStink) before I even consider getting one of these.
I love how people go on about the evils of mystical cults, then in the next moment talk about how one of its members looks like he's possessed by evil spirits.
Maybe he was having a bad day?
> J++ was fully compatable with Java, just with added functionality (which you could turn off if you wanted
J++ does not include RMI or JNI. Granted, I don't think JNI is terribly useful when you have wildly differing calling conventions (some kind of macro abstraction would have been better) but the lack of RMI was clearly to hobble the development of client/server systems that were not 100% Windows-based. On the plus side, it allowed companies like Objectspace to push cooll stuff like Voyager to fill the gap.
I never drank the Java koolaid, but there was something fishy about MS's selective implementation of the product they licensed...
> I guess that is why we get married. Guaranteed access to the honeypot.
:-/
Yer in for a world of disappointment in a few years, boy.
Oh balls. Editorial discretion in any kind of publication allows for all kinds of corrections, from terminology to spelling and grammar. I guarantee the majority letters to the editor you read in the paper are not printed verbatim. Just about the only ones who get through unedited are syndicated columnists, and that's because they have their own editor who makes technical corrections before it's submitted.
It is, however, highly unprofessional to make public this correction. A private note to the submitter regarding the change would have been more than sufficient. I've submitted all of one story to slashdot (rejected, possibly on procedure grounds for choosing the wrong category). I'll think twice before submitting again.
> The ensuing 'inspections' caused prominent men, like George Washington, to complain of mail tampering
Poor baby. Washington's own Federalist party was responsible for the Alien and Sedition act which likely authorized this very thing. Poetic justice methinks.
> Your dad could be Michael Jordan, but if all you do is sit at your computer and eat junk food you won't make the NBA
;)
No, but if you were a clone of Michael Jordan, it's unlikely you would be inclined to sit at your computer and eat junk food all day. 'course a butterfly flapping its wings in zimbabwe might cause a tree to fall on you sometime, leaving you in a wheelchair, unable to get in the NBA. pesky butterflies, always causing disasters
Wouldn't that cease and desist letter come from the Law Firm of Mephisto, Asmodeus, and Beelzebub instead? :^)
Learning how to find the sources is part of the research process in academia. Asking a public forum to find them for you should be a matter of last resort, and I sincerely doubt Plasmoid has pursued other avenues. DYOFH (Do Your Own Fucking Homework) is the standard academic equivalent to RTFM, and I think it needs to be used a lot more often. The Slashdot editors need to exercise some common sense judgement as well.
What's CS's framerate? How well does it support really huge landscapes?
An editor I can see. Read markup, write markup. Has a very nice symmetry to it, and it's complex enough to need to wire it into the application.
But if javascript is inadequate to write even a basic POP mail client in, then what the hell is the point? To write rollovers? This was supposed to be a platform in itself, yet it seems the one and only language binding made for it cannot be used to write anything of significant complexity, such as a mail app.
UNIX was never really defeated. NT has yet to gain anything approaching a majority share in the data center market, where unix has reigned supreme for 20-odd years now. The majority of web and mail servers have always been unix.
Netscape on the other hand was lofted high then knocked off its perch at which point it collapsed under its own bloated and buggy weight. The best minds of the company have left, and we're expecting the skeletal remains now reanimated by AOL (who have also not set many records for software quality) to make a comeback?
I'm not holding my breath. The underdog I'd rather root for is Opera.
A terminal that requires gnome-libs and imlib? For a TERMINAL? I'm ok with the gtk+ requirement, you need that for tabs and whatnot. But damned if I'm going to install the thing on Solaris without pulling half of GNOME and a bloated monstrosity like Imlib with it. Trust me, I have many reasons to want a tabbed notebook interface, since I have to connect to dozens of servers and such, but I don't want something that needs me to install a whole linux subsystem just to use.
> Wrong. Counterexamples could be named by the score.
I count zero in your post. How about some?
> Do we understand the implications? (Score:3, Flamebait)
:)
Hot damn, I wish I could write a post moderated UP and marked flamebait. THAT is what you call a good post
BeOS. Thank you, drive through.
Could you all do me a big favor, dust off your english composition books, and learn to summarize and rebut with whole paragraphs? This point-for-point nonsense you and a thousand other would-be debate-club types foist isn't somehow incisive and well-related to the surrounding context, it's snippy, interruptive, and incoherent. Criminy, it's bad enough seeing a back-and-forth, it's dowright pathetic when half the responses are "oh yeah? says you!"
I may be guilty of abusing the snippy one-liner myself, but I don't go running a post through a shredder like some kind of dadaist art in order to deflect from the lack of coherency in my reply.
> What an absolute crock of shit. The only people posting that kind of idiocy are anonymous cowardly trolls ...
> the paid Microsoft Astroturfers and FUDders who substitute ad hominim attacks against slashdot readers for well reasoned arguments.
> What you fail to realize is, there is only a vanishingly small minority of people here stupid enough to believe your propoganda.
If this is what passes for reasoned argument from your point of view, it's no wonder no one even condescends to offer their argument to the contrary. Just because you don't speak like a script-kiddie doesn't mean you offer any more reasoned analysis than one.
> I wonder what the perfomance of a MAME running on Windows 98 VM running inside of Vmware running on Windows NT running inside of Vmware running on Redhat running inside of Connectixes Virtual PC running on a Mac G4/450 would be?
:)
Nonexistent. I can almost guarantee it wouldn't work. VMware didn't run itself recursively last I checked, for one.
You want real-world perverse twists tho, I plan to run Linux under FreeBSD by running it in VMware under Linux emulation
I should take that last remark back. Tanenbaum was regarded as arrogant and insular, but as far as I know, he never descended to accusing his rivals of academic dishonesty...
http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-03
This person calls the OS research community either intellectually dishonest or, and this just kills me, stupid or deluded. This from a guy who implemented SMP with a global kernel lock (that still exists, it's just masterfully hidden under several layers of macros)
Tanenbaum *would* be proud: Linus has become just like him.
They're the ones using an EIGHT BIT key and they call cphack "primitive"?
Doesn't matter tho, it's the same as CSS: they could use a million-bit key, but if the software reads the list, it has to decrypt it, so it has to have the key. I suppose they could use MD5 sums for the blocklist instead. I don't think they have the brightest of bulbs in R&D over there...
Much of that improvement would require improving X. Like antialiasing and making color management *actually* work (X in theory supports color profiles, I've never seen it implemented). Good luck getting any of that in.
I just like BeOS because it puts the lie to Linus's uninformed and defamatory ranting about microkernels.
Really? Give 'em the logs. I would like the Mattel Corporation to know that I, Charles Adams, a resident of the State of Colorado, own a copy of cphack.exe, and with intent, intend to distribute it from my my webpage, located at http://members.xoom.com/scrytch or by other means I find expedient. You may subpoena further information as to my from my Internet Service Provider, USWest.net. I will destroy all copies of cphack.exe in my possession and accept a permanent injunction against distributing this program when said injunction is issued after a hearing in civil court, so see you in court, motherfuckers.
Baldur's Gate was the prototype of the engine. Torment was the game. I quit BG in disgust before even *getting to* Baldur's gate, because I got so SICK of hearing the same music and blurbs. I think I just went for the delete about the 10,000th time I heard "I need a SWIG of some STRONG, DWARVEN ale". And the narrator's voice, it just struck me as ... juvenile for some reason -- I think hearing a second-person narration helped that along. All in all it struck me as endless hack and slash with no hope for plot or even good character writing.