So it has no production code but it has mindshare. This is the primary characteristic of vaporware, dude... Whether or not it is vaporware doesn't change that that is a vaporware attitude. I urge you to adopt a more constructive attitude.
Read the license. It allows distribution of modified versions in their entirety. It also allows distributions of just patches, if that's your thing.
Besides, open source simply means source for all for free. What you're allowed to do with it doesn't seem to be covered under the definition. Free software is a much larger superset of open source. Still, I defy anyone to show me how this license is not free software. Even the original author of a GPL'd work can turn around and sell his original work under another license. This has an MPL-ish clause that guarantees inclusion of accepted patches in the free version as well as commercial Die hard communists (I don't mean that as an insult in this sense) might object to TT ever making a profit off someone else's work, but the fact remains that you would have given it away anyhow.
Read the license. It allows distribution of modified versions in their entirity. It also allows distributions of just patches, if that's your thing.
My god, there's nothing about assigning copyright, larger works, integration by TT into commercial versions (though that probably does become implied, as they still own copyright to the whole).
Besides, open source simply means source for all for free. What you're allowed to do with it doesn't seem to be covered under the definition. Free software is a much larger superset of open source. Still, I defy anyone to show me how this is not free software.
So the Great Glorious Republicans will save us all then, right? Yawn. I almost took you seriously. But then again, you're nothing but an AC. I have no problem looking down on you for that only.
Freeciv's still ugly as sin. Some of us like those cool wonder movies. Isometric interfaces fit more on the screen too. Wake me up when it's at least not using Athena widgets.
And I ask "what can I use this gnome thing for? I really wanna have something, cuz my son's scout troop's getting this whole event going on, lotsa rope tying and tent-pitching and stuff and we need some flyers to print out with some pictures. i just got this scanner thingamabob and this color inkjet printer, boy did that set me back. haven't got 'em out of the box yet, so can i just plug 'em in and drag some pictures around and make some flyers? oh yeah if i could mail 'em to some buddies on AOL that would be big, or maybe i should put 'em on that webspace that our internet hookup gives us. is there a program that'll lemme do that?"
Truly antialiased fonts don't look blurred. Don't confuse Acrobat's "fuzzy" fonts with the real thing. Aliasing doesn't happen with perfectly vertical or horizontal lines (unless you have a weird staggered shadowmask or something), but acrobat blurs 'em anyway. Amazingly stupid.
Doesn't autoconf have a "make installdirs" target that will make just the directories, that you can then chown, or am I just on crack?
Anyhow, if you install to a root like/opt/packagename or/usr/local/packagename, it's trivially easy to make it such that it's not owned by root and doesn't even have to be installed by root. And on my work account, i'm installing things into $HOME/soft/packagename all the time...
Installing software in superuser-owned places is a superuser thing, that's just all there is to it.
They missed "all of the above". Gamers will continue to buy PC's for a long time. It amounts to utter destruction of Microsoft in many server markets (compare ISP's running Linux to ones running NT). So far that's added up to a small chink. It's a plaything too, but particle accellerators are serious machines that are playthings for physicists. I dunno what to make of the OS/2 argument but I suppose I can buy it given IBM's buy-in now.
And despite the enthusiasm for Linux' open-source concept, it carries the danger that Linux will be fragmented, just like the Unix effort of past years.
Windows 3.11 (yes people use this) Windows 95/98 Windows NT 3.51 Windows NT 4.0 Windows 2000 Windows CE Windows CE Windows CE (have to repeat, how many versions of CE?)
I see nothing in BG that couldn't be replicated on a console system (using CD's mind you) except for the hotkeys. Criminy, it's diablo with cool backgrounds.
Long as you're willing to put up with a lousy cumbersome interface, you could run pretty much any game. I know I wouldn't want to play Alpha Centauri without a keyboard, for example.
That it is. But a 'vette is no ferarri. Actually, I lie, I don't really need photoshop, but could use some decent DTP software. xfig don't cut it, and gimp isn't quite right for the purpose...
You're perfectly free to use it if you charge others. You just have to swallow your own medicine and pay for it.
> Yeah. I noticed. Sorry! Should have checked my facts before I spouted off such nonsense.
Hey watch it buddy, keep that sort of thing up and you'll start a trend and the world as we know it will end.
> Furthermore, it's a horribly arrogant license, since you are not allowed to distribute modifications except as patches,
Come back when you've read section 4
And the next section allows distribution in whole. Try reading the WHOLE thing, legal documents are notoriously holistic.
posters that is. ohman why'd they have to be called troll tech...
Take it from someone who has to use CDE: KDE is damn beautiful in comparison. Besides, I always thought it looked a little OS/2-ish.
I really hope they've stopped ripping off Be's icons though.
So it has no production code but it has mindshare. This is the primary characteristic of vaporware, dude... Whether or not it is vaporware doesn't change that that is a vaporware attitude. I urge you to adopt a more constructive attitude.
Read the license. It allows distribution of modified versions in their entirety. It also allows distributions of just patches, if that's your thing.
Besides, open source simply means source for all for free. What you're allowed to do with it doesn't seem to be covered under the definition. Free software is a much larger superset of open source. Still, I defy anyone to show me how this license is not free software. Even the original author of a GPL'd work can turn around and sell his original work under another license. This has an MPL-ish clause that guarantees inclusion of accepted patches in the free version as well as commercial Die hard communists (I don't mean that as an insult in this sense) might object to TT ever making a profit off someone else's work, but the fact remains that you would have given it away anyhow.
Read the license. It allows distribution of modified versions in their entirity. It also allows distributions of just patches, if that's your thing.
My god, there's nothing about assigning copyright, larger works, integration by TT into commercial versions (though that probably does become implied, as they still own copyright to the whole).
Besides, open source simply means source for all for free. What you're allowed to do with it doesn't seem to be covered under the definition. Free software is a much larger superset of open source. Still, I defy anyone to show me how this is not free software.
So the Great Glorious Republicans will save us all then, right? Yawn. I almost took you seriously. But then again, you're nothing but an AC. I have no problem looking down on you for that only.
Wouldn't the Big Foot icon be more appropriate?
Then you will simply never achieve the world domination you want. You simply won't topple Microsoft, or even Apple for that matter.
You may prefer it that way. Personally I don't care either way, and neither does Joe Sixpack.
Since it would seem their site moved, and it's taking ages for the cached entry to expire.
Your penance is to get an account and use it. Amen.
Freeciv's still ugly as sin. Some of us like those cool wonder movies. Isometric interfaces fit more on the screen too. Wake me up when it's at least not using Athena widgets.
And I ask "what can I use this gnome thing for? I really wanna have something, cuz my son's scout troop's getting this whole event going on, lotsa rope tying and tent-pitching and stuff and we need some flyers to print out with some pictures. i just got this scanner thingamabob and this color inkjet printer, boy did that set me back. haven't got 'em out of the box yet, so can i just plug 'em in and drag some pictures around and make some flyers? oh yeah if i could mail 'em to some buddies on AOL that would be big, or maybe i should put 'em on that webspace that our internet hookup gives us. is there a program that'll lemme do that?"
Truly antialiased fonts don't look blurred. Don't confuse Acrobat's "fuzzy" fonts with the real thing. Aliasing doesn't happen with perfectly vertical or horizontal lines (unless you have a weird staggered shadowmask or something), but acrobat blurs 'em anyway. Amazingly stupid.
Makes me think of that goofy looking gnu on the fsf logo licking an annoyed-looking tux, ala odie and garfield.
Doesn't autoconf have a "make installdirs" target that will make just the directories, that you can then chown, or am I just on crack?
/opt/packagename or /usr/local/packagename, it's trivially easy to make it such that it's not owned by root and doesn't even have to be installed by root. And on my work account, i'm installing things into $HOME/soft/packagename all the time...
Anyhow, if you install to a root like
Installing software in superuser-owned places is a superuser thing, that's just all there is to it.
They missed "all of the above". Gamers will continue to buy PC's for a long time. It amounts to utter destruction of Microsoft in many server markets (compare ISP's running Linux to ones running NT). So far that's added up to a small chink. It's a plaything too, but particle accellerators are serious machines that are playthings for physicists. I dunno what to make of the OS/2 argument but I suppose I can buy it given IBM's buy-in now.
Windows 3.11 (yes people use this)
Windows 95/98
Windows NT 3.51
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 2000
Windows CE
Windows CE
Windows CE (have to repeat, how many versions of CE?)
Fragmented, eh?
I eagerly await ZDNet's coverage of this new-fangled ``horseless carriage'' contraption.
New DOS attack discovered: parking your car in the middle of the road will clog up traffic.
I see nothing in BG that couldn't be replicated on a console system (using CD's mind you) except for the hotkeys. Criminy, it's diablo with cool backgrounds.
Long as you're willing to put up with a lousy cumbersome interface, you could run pretty much any game. I know I wouldn't want to play Alpha Centauri without a keyboard, for example.
That it is. But a 'vette is no ferarri.
Actually, I lie, I don't really need photoshop, but could use some decent DTP software. xfig don't cut it, and gimp isn't quite right for the purpose...
"effort" and linux.org do not belong in the same sentence.