The thing about the laws is that to be "enforced" a) the robot has to be seriously smart b) The laws need to be encoded deeply into the robots brain in some fundamental way so that they cannot be broken. In Asimov's stories his robots were seriously intelligent, also the laws were so deeply a part of the positronic brain that the robot would explode rather than harm a human.
Well I could say a lot about them, but I went for the fast karma whore option and just quoted them verbatim as I knew some Asimov fans would mod me up:)
Well, that would mean if you have a malfunctioning Robot, which you need to destroy (let's say with a laser because it's cool). You order the robot to remain still and do not move, you point the laser at the robot, as the third and second laws are switched, the Robot would try and act so as to prevent you from firing. Either by disarming you (without harming you) or running away.
Another example, if the robot is working in a dangerous environment, it would stop working anytime it considers it's existence to be in threat. Thus greatly reducing productivity.
What about Asimov's three laws of Robotics? (particularly law 1)
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
(and ps: yes I know these are just fictional but I can't pass up a chance to quote the master...hell he even invented the word Robotics!)
Did I say I did web design? I said I worked for a web startup, I didn't say I did any coding myself, although I do know php, css and html.
I manage a team of programmers for a global site present in 29 different countries. Sure I could have just programmed with my background but I preferred going into management. Given that i'm still young i'm pretty happy with my situation (i'm 24). I studied CS and AI because I was interested in it and it was my strongest subject at high school. Later on I realized that I enjoyed interacting with people more than I did solely coding, hence going into management.
Our sysadmin is slightly flaky (yes I know) so myself and one of the programmers occasionally take on sysadmin duties. I came into this job having limited IIS experience, now i'll fix a variety issues without bothering with the sysadmin. Yes again, I know this is ridiculous, but hey, we make money still.. god knows how..
On this point, I agree it can suck. I love reading and am currently working through the History of Western Philosophy. As a college student I would have ripped through this in a few weeks but with my current time commitments its more like a slog through a jungle whilst hopping on one leg. But i'm hoping that the responsibilities I have in my job, combined with the great references i'll get will give me the chance to get a job where i'm under less pressure.
Basically yes. It's not quite as bad as it is for the CTO of the company, but i've had plenty of calls at 3am telling me one of the sites is down and can I talk to our sysadmin. It wouldn't be so bad if we were only based in the USA but when you have sites in 20+ different countries globally you have to become a 24 hour person.
Example, this morning, before I even had my contact lenses in after waking up I was blindly fumbling with my laptop, logging onto skype and discussing a project with some Indian developers. A few nights ago I was called at 3am to be asked if I could remote desktop to our servers to fix a problem with the app pools.
Yes, I suppose you're right. I did however, choose my job and continue to choose it because I enjoy it. Also, I didn't spend years studying CS and AI to get greasy underneath a car.
It doesn't matter whether the results of this study are valid or not. I can't stop using my mobile phone, as I work for a web startup I need to be constantly available if there is a site problem and having my mobile close by, always (even in my bed), is something that is 100% essential.
In addition, I would basically be saying goodbye to my social life (what little I have of one after work) if I stopped using a mobile phone.
Therefore, I hope this study is wrong. If it isn't I hope that mobile manufacturers can somehow make next gen phones slightly safer, if possible.
I was the person who tagged this "slashdottagsareamystery" and it showed up as a tag. I assume I was the only person who tagged it as this.. I guess i'm just special..:)
You are only as safe as the measures YOU employ to protect yourself. Your email may be hosted by the most secure company in the world but if your password is "password" or "firstnamelastname" or "123456789" etc then all their security measures are meaningless.
Likewise, if you're running unpatched versions of XP you could have the most secure password ever yet it's meaningless when you have a rootkit with a keystroke logger that's sending your password to a script kiddy in Russia.
Perhaps people "feel" safer because the marketing departments of certain companies... (Microsoft) tell them they are..
Well, it's become a new meme to tag anything that remotely sounds dangerous with that particular tag... at first it was funny.. it's a little tiresome now.
i'm actually writing this from my iphone, while in my car, while one of these new robots fills up my volvo. I don't know why you guys are tagging this "whatcouldpossiblygowrong", it seems well engineered and apparently efficient. The only problem I can foresee would be some sort of short circuit which could produce a spark and ##KR2F@F@$F$ {NO CARRIER}
He's not saying that C++ in general is cruel and unusual. He's saying he dealt with people who essentially were C++ experts and hence coded extremely low level/extremely complicated C++ apps. Presumably an example would be kernel coders or people who work on compiler design etc.
If you did some research it would become clear that the article author is highly respected in the field of trading/investment banking and the technology used by these organizations.
Don't mistake the register's humorous undertones and brash site design to mean that site is unreliable. I personally know a couple of the journalists they are highly professional and yes, they tend to skew things to make them more humorous (which I like) but they don't bullshit or flat out lie.
I think some people get the impression they are the online equivalent of National Enquirer but it's simply untrue.
Now excuse me, the BOFH is screaming for my blood..
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The article was about blu ray discs and blue ray drives. You were using neither.
The thing about the laws is that to be "enforced" a) the robot has to be seriously smart b) The laws need to be encoded deeply into the robots brain in some fundamental way so that they cannot be broken. In Asimov's stories his robots were seriously intelligent, also the laws were so deeply a part of the positronic brain that the robot would explode rather than harm a human.
Erm yes he did, I said "Robotics" not Robot.
Well I could say a lot about them, but I went for the fast karma whore option and just quoted them verbatim as I knew some Asimov fans would mod me up :)
Well, that would mean if you have a malfunctioning Robot, which you need to destroy (let's say with a laser because it's cool). You order the robot to remain still and do not move, you point the laser at the robot, as the third and second laws are switched, the Robot would try and act so as to prevent you from firing. Either by disarming you (without harming you) or running away.
Another example, if the robot is working in a dangerous environment, it would stop working anytime it considers it's existence to be in threat. Thus greatly reducing productivity.
What about Asimov's three laws of Robotics? (particularly law 1)
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
(and ps: yes I know these are just fictional but I can't pass up a chance to quote the master...hell he even invented the word Robotics!)
Did I say I did web design? I said I worked for a web startup, I didn't say I did any coding myself, although I do know php, css and html.
I manage a team of programmers for a global site present in 29 different countries. Sure I could have just programmed with my background but I preferred going into management. Given that i'm still young i'm pretty happy with my situation (i'm 24). I studied CS and AI because I was interested in it and it was my strongest subject at high school. Later on I realized that I enjoyed interacting with people more than I did solely coding, hence going into management.
Our sysadmin is slightly flaky (yes I know) so myself and one of the programmers occasionally take on sysadmin duties. I came into this job having limited IIS experience, now i'll fix a variety issues without bothering with the sysadmin. Yes again, I know this is ridiculous, but hey, we make money still.. god knows how..
*sniff*
On this point, I agree it can suck. I love reading and am currently working through the History of Western Philosophy. As a college student I would have ripped through this in a few weeks but with my current time commitments its more like a slog through a jungle whilst hopping on one leg. But i'm hoping that the responsibilities I have in my job, combined with the great references i'll get will give me the chance to get a job where i'm under less pressure.
Basically yes. It's not quite as bad as it is for the CTO of the company, but i've had plenty of calls at 3am telling me one of the sites is down and can I talk to our sysadmin. It wouldn't be so bad if we were only based in the USA but when you have sites in 20+ different countries globally you have to become a 24 hour person.
Example, this morning, before I even had my contact lenses in after waking up I was blindly fumbling with my laptop, logging onto skype and discussing a project with some Indian developers. A few nights ago I was called at 3am to be asked if I could remote desktop to our servers to fix a problem with the app pools.
Yes, I suppose you're right. I did however, choose my job and continue to choose it because I enjoy it. Also, I didn't spend years studying CS and AI to get greasy underneath a car.
It doesn't matter whether the results of this study are valid or not. I can't stop using my mobile phone, as I work for a web startup I need to be constantly available if there is a site problem and having my mobile close by, always (even in my bed), is something that is 100% essential.
In addition, I would basically be saying goodbye to my social life (what little I have of one after work) if I stopped using a mobile phone.
Therefore, I hope this study is wrong. If it isn't I hope that mobile manufacturers can somehow make next gen phones slightly safer, if possible.
I was the person who tagged this "slashdottagsareamystery" and it showed up as a tag. I assume I was the only person who tagged it as this.. I guess i'm just special.. :)
...and in other news, scientists studying grizzly bears in Canada have finally shown that they do, in fact, defecate in the woods.
I'm in your account taking your moniez :'(
Nice catch, next question, did he base the bot on his own insanity and is the bot responsible for the comment?
You are only as safe as the measures YOU employ to protect yourself. Your email may be hosted by the most secure company in the world but if your password is "password" or "firstnamelastname" or "123456789" etc then all their security measures are meaningless.
Likewise, if you're running unpatched versions of XP you could have the most secure password ever yet it's meaningless when you have a rootkit with a keystroke logger that's sending your password to a script kiddy in Russia.
Perhaps people "feel" safer because the marketing departments of certain companies... (Microsoft) tell them they are..
Dude, did you just down 10 double espressos or something?
Well, it's become a new meme to tag anything that remotely sounds dangerous with that particular tag... at first it was funny.. it's a little tiresome now.
Hey guys,
i'm actually writing this from my iphone, while in my car, while one of these new robots fills up my volvo. I don't know why you guys are tagging this "whatcouldpossiblygowrong", it seems well engineered and apparently efficient. The only problem I can foresee would be some sort of short circuit which could produce a spark and ##KR2F@F@$F$ {NO CARRIER}
T-1000 Cat is watching you masturbate! >.
He's not saying that C++ in general is cruel and unusual. He's saying he dealt with people who essentially were C++ experts and hence coded extremely low level/extremely complicated C++ apps. Presumably an example would be kernel coders or people who work on compiler design etc.
If you did some research it would become clear that the article author is highly respected in the field of trading/investment banking and the technology used by these organizations.
Don't mistake the register's humorous undertones and brash site design to mean that site is unreliable. I personally know a couple of the journalists they are highly professional and yes, they tend to skew things to make them more humorous (which I like) but they don't bullshit or flat out lie.
I think some people get the impression they are the online equivalent of National Enquirer but it's simply untrue.
Now excuse me, the BOFH is screaming for my blood..
You insensitive clod, you just killed my dreams of being the rocketeer
:'(
I know!
Lets use instances of the travelling sales problem as CAPTCHAS. In a year the Russians will have them cracked and we'll finally know that P = NP!