Looking back at how things unfolded on 9/11, it would have been highly beneficial to have system in place to alert officials of what was happening
I don't think that would have helped in the slighest, or for any future terrorist attacks. By the time the first event happens, everything else has already been set. Take the two big ones recently:
9/11: planes were already in the sky. Not enough aircraft/missiles to shoot them down even if they wanted.
London trains: bombs already on the trains. People can't get text messages in the subway due to fears that terrorists will use the signals t set off bombs. Oh shit, time paradox!
That would be totally freaky. Skyscrapes being built all by themselves, followed by people madly jumping hundreds of feet off the ground in order to get to work. I'd run the fuck away from anything that scary.
Only the President can issue the alert and the current President didn't on 9/11 or any other time since. Other than your own FUD, what reason do you have to believe that it will suddenly be used for evil?
You have to ask yourself "it they never use it, why do they need the power to send data to every phone/tv/swiss army knife in the country?"
...it could be highly useful for example in the corporate setting...
Oh, for fuck's sake! Don't give them any more ideas.
The extra cost of technology staff and the risk of a shittastrophe are nothing compared to abysmal employee morale. If you don't let 'em stroke off for a few minutes a couple of times an hour by going to ebay or playing snood you're going to end up with a resentful staff. And they'll produce awful, crappy work for you.
What if the website changes its TOS to state you give up that right by posting stuff? Alot of software companies haven't been challenged by "automatic acceptance" EULAs.
Good point. What, really, prevents a place like say, fanfiction.net from changing it's privacy policy and stating "all stories now belong to us and we're gonna sell 'em."
It is not like they broke into his house and went through his photo albums, they simply accessed what he put up for the world to see.
No, that's completely erroneous. it's not like that at all. You couldn't be more wrong.
This was a private account that required a password to access.
You missed the part where they bash down the door and arrest you for "interfering with an investigation", start wailing on you, then throw in "resisting arrest" for good measure.
The right to be protected against search is already rescinded if there is probable cause you have commited a crime.
The right to be informed of a search when there is probably cause you have commited a crime is already rescinded if the crime you may commit (terrorism) is so dangerous that tipping you off may be the worse of two evils.
Are you actually suggesting that "state agencies" should be allowed to perform secret searches for mere background checks of employees?
Even granting the law allows "state agencies" to perform a search of private property (which a website's content is, even if its on the ISP's server) -- that they don't have to disclose the act to said person.
There was not even reasonable cause -- much less probable cause -- of terrorism. Or any crime.
My vote goes to game players. What other magazine covered a design-your-own-game contest with entries like "Fire Dogs" and "Kill your parents?" What other magazine took the risk of publishing the topless screenshots from that Naughty Dog game and the Street Fighter II movie? What other magazine had Gazuga, skullbats, and The Cleansing?
It wasn't so much a game magazine as a secret, hilarious club.
Since I'm sure making homebrew games is against the PSP eula, does this mean that Sony can revoke the license and force people to return their PSPs? After all, they don't actually own the unit, just have permission to use it, right?
Casteism in India has been abolished. What remains is the memory of what once was
That's funny, all my Indian co-workers disagree strongly with you. They beleive it's like a town with one shoemaker. "How dare you think about yourself when the town needs shoes!" Apparently God/nature/shiva has it all figured out to keep civilization running smoothly and if you try and get out of your janitor caste you are a Bad Person.
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Looking back at how things unfolded on 9/11, it would have been highly beneficial to have system in place to alert officials of what was happening
I don't think that would have helped in the slighest, or for any future terrorist attacks. By the time the first event happens, everything else has already been set. Take the two big ones recently:
9/11: planes were already in the sky. Not enough aircraft/missiles to shoot them down even if they wanted.
London trains: bombs already on the trains. People can't get text messages in the subway due to fears that terrorists will use the signals t set off bombs. Oh shit, time paradox!
reverse 911
That would be totally freaky. Skyscrapes being built all by themselves, followed by people madly jumping hundreds of feet off the ground in order to get to work. I'd run the fuck away from anything that scary.
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Aww, how can you stay mad at chicken nuggets? Especially now, "with real chicken!"
Only the President can issue the alert and the current President didn't on 9/11 or any other time since. Other than your own FUD, what reason do you have to believe that it will suddenly be used for evil?
You have to ask yourself "it they never use it, why do they need the power to send data to every phone/tv/swiss army knife in the country?"
This is a repeat of what was going on in the UK
A yellow-coded curfew is now in effect. Any unauthorized persons will be subject to arrest. This is for your protection.
I thought some people would read it that way, but I was actually quoting the episode of futurama where time starts skipping forward randomly.
Professor: "Did everything just jump around, or did my brain just stroke off there for a second?"
My bad. I was confusing him with that ice chick from Final Fantasy.
...it could be highly useful for example in the corporate setting...
Oh, for fuck's sake! Don't give them any more ideas.
The extra cost of technology staff and the risk of a shittastrophe are nothing compared to abysmal employee morale. If you don't let 'em stroke off for a few minutes a couple of times an hour by going to ebay or playing snood you're going to end up with a resentful staff. And they'll produce awful, crappy work for you.
What if the website changes its TOS to state you give up that right by posting stuff? Alot of software companies haven't been challenged by "automatic acceptance" EULAs.
Yep, it didnt get much press, guess no one cared since it was a "friendly" country testing this time.
Some animals are more equal than others.
feeding the 400M people there that live on a dollar a day
Now now... if Vishnu wanted them to eat, she would have put them in a better castle.
Well, slap my face and call me silly.
Good point. What, really, prevents a place like say, fanfiction.net from changing it's privacy policy and stating "all stories now belong to us and we're gonna sell 'em."
There is no such right. There is only a protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
Correct, I oversimplified.
I'm pretty sure that's illegal. The government just doesn't think it has to follow the law any more.
They can at least postpone notification, possibly indefinitely (or long enough that it wouldn't matter).
It is not like they broke into his house and went through his photo albums, they simply accessed what he put up for the world to see.
No, that's completely erroneous. it's not like that at all. You couldn't be more wrong.
This was a private account that required a password to access.
You missed the part where they bash down the door and arrest you for "interfering with an investigation", start wailing on you, then throw in "resisting arrest" for good measure.
The right to be protected against search is already rescinded if there is probable cause you have commited a crime.
The right to be informed of a search when there is probably cause you have commited a crime is already rescinded if the crime you may commit (terrorism) is so dangerous that tipping you off may be the worse of two evils.
Are you actually suggesting that "state agencies" should be allowed to perform secret searches for mere background checks of employees?
You can't "agree" to something like that without authorizing it on the ISP's end. Otherwise the following would be a reasonable course of action.
Govmt: "AOL, this is the department of sanitation. Can we see Joe Smith's password-protected website?"
AOL: "Woh, I dunno. That sounds kinda private"
Govmt: "Nah nah, it's okay. He said it was all right."
AOL: "Oh, in that case, here you go!"
Even granting the law allows "state agencies" to perform a search of private property (which a website's content is, even if its on the ISP's server) -- that they don't have to disclose the act to said person.
There was not even reasonable cause -- much less probable cause -- of terrorism. Or any crime.
I was just dumb and didn't realize they were scripted -- thought it was a random "bonus" for pressing alot of buttons.
So I'd either back off and mash the controller hoping for a "dookan" or that spinning kick, or get in close and try to pull off an uppercut.
My vote goes to game players. What other magazine covered a design-your-own-game contest with entries like "Fire Dogs" and "Kill your parents?" What other magazine took the risk of publishing the topless screenshots from that Naughty Dog game and the Street Fighter II movie? What other magazine had Gazuga, skullbats, and The Cleansing?
It wasn't so much a game magazine as a secret, hilarious club.
A logical, rational defense of the practice. Doth mine eyes deceive me?
I was just being facetious, and completely agree with you :)
Since I'm sure making homebrew games is against the PSP eula, does this mean that Sony can revoke the license and force people to return their PSPs? After all, they don't actually own the unit, just have permission to use it, right?
Casteism in India has been abolished. What remains is the memory of what once was
That's funny, all my Indian co-workers disagree strongly with you. They beleive it's like a town with one shoemaker. "How dare you think about yourself when the town needs shoes!" Apparently God/nature/shiva has it all figured out to keep civilization running smoothly and if you try and get out of your janitor caste you are a Bad Person.