When you say, "yup, what a bunch of primitive savages.", its correct.
The only point is that its not Islam that is making them do it. They were savages way before Islam, if anything, Islam may have educated them (for better or worst).
There is a very fine line between a savage and a soldier. Here is what Alexander the great had to say about these people.
"I am involved in the land of a 'Leonine' (lion-like) and brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel, confronting my soldier. You have brought only one son into the world, but Everyone in this land can be called an Alexander."
Get him one. See if you can find local clubs where they have competitions involving mindstorm and what you can do with them.
If you can invoke the inner gamer's competitiveness in him while taking up mindstorm challenge, you have introduced him to first steps of coding. Next wipe mindstorms firmware off it and load the java firmware.
Another thing, if the goal of your dialog is to piss of the other party, you should be prepared for the response. You won't get roses in response to your slur.
Have a nice weekend, cool off maybe next week you are in a better mood. Its going to get nice and warm, may go boating. Hoping to catch some fish. Enjoy and learn to bridge the gap, too many around to create a divide.
Yah, the name is a mouth full, UI has lots of room for improvement on the network side, however it more than serves the purpose, plays everything I have thrown at it. Its backed by my NAS on gigabit network, two of these devices on two TVs and I can stream two HD (720p) movies (of any kind) at the same time.
Disclaimer: Usability and customization is not even close to XBMC, nonetheless functionally it does exactly what I want i.e. play any content shared on my local network.
Nothing stopping you except for maybe learning a new language. With Android, you don't even need a fancy certificate to install your code on the device. SDK comes with a utility to do it.
Only problem is, you will need to learn Android development, if you have played with java, its quite straight forward. Google's tutorials are great too.
Personally, I feel more comfortable with Java than with python:)
Not sure how fast it reached Mach 6, however, at Mach 6 in 200 seconds, you have covered over 250 miles (400 km). That's a lot of ground. No point continuing the experiment if whatever you are monitoring can't be monitored because its so far out.
Personally, I "hate" Taliban and al-qaeda. Probably would join NATO to fight these guys if already didn't have a pretty set-up life. I don't even consider these guys followers of Islam as I see it. From what my religious scholars have taught me, these guys are the worst thing that can happen to Islam and the rest of the Muslims. On the same note, I almost feel NATO to be 21st century crusaders (look at some of the responses I got to my thread). People have started hating Islam (i.e. put me in the same boat as Taliban and the gang). They fail to understand Taliban and al-qaeda culture. Religion is the tool being used to corrupt young minds and cause such violence. This violence was always there, Alexander the great left these people alone understanding they are a rough bunch and nothing good will come out of conquering this land (present day Afghanistan).
What gave you the idea if you are not a Mulsim you must be killed.
There are quotes from quran that are used to portray this view. However that is really is part of a sentence that starts of with "if you are at a war". You may think what you want for a religious book talking of killing, however those instructions are clearly when engaged in a war. The very same para also says you "must" protect non-muslim under your rule and respect their faith, else you will be held accountable at day of judgment. There is a lot more here than news at 11 tells you.
No it won't, you are correct here. In fact, I don't care about these images, didn't even bother looking. Nonetheless, I understand the sentiments, this is what I would like other to understand to. The sentiment of a large group of people we share this planet with. BTW, this understanding goes both ways is the point I am tried to make.
By the responses I got, I personally did understand my effort was moot, unfortunately, more innocent will suffer because of this huge gap in understanding.
I agree, I for sure hate their guts for screwing up my faith.
On the other hand, I understand every party involved needs to understand and respect (at least show respect) for things to get better. Unless that is not the goal.
Sterotyping here... but Taliban are like Klingons form startrek. Honour is everything to them, dis-honour pisses them off just as much.
The second large sect, Shia, (which I belong to), does not even dispute her age and understands it to be 19.
Further, Islam uses what are called "hadith" i.e. stories/incidents that happened during prophets time as anologies for modern day issues. These hadiths are noted verbatim.
If I buy a chocolate, someone may asks me how much it costs... I will say 2 9 9, that does not mean two hundred and ninety nine dollars. It means 2 dollars and ninety nine cents. You on the other hand may reply 2$ and 99 cents. None of the expressions are wrong, yet different. If I was to save these verbatim, 1000 years later we will be having this discussion.
Dark ages is when Islam was thriving. Baghdad had scientists, traders and poets when Europe didn't have food. Without understanding, there is no hope of world peace, hoping Islam will fail is wishful thinking, its only growing.
I'm saying you need to respect most, what gives you the right to disrespect beliefs of another.
Islam is often confused with arab culture.
Until Mongols invaded Baghdad, Islam and modern day Iraq was a society of learned scientists, traders and poets. Lots of your mathematics, chemistry and biology comes from followers of Islam from this era.
Baghdad was thriving with culture when Europe was in dark ages. Its said when mongols invaded Baghdad, piles of books burned was only topped by piles of skulls. Unfortunately, mongols converted to Islam. I think that put this religion on the wrong path.
Second, CIA gave more than enough blessing to Saudi Arabia and pakistan to create "taliban" (BTW, taliban means learned). Saudi oil money is what opened up these religious schools that taught jihad to combat russians in afghanistan. Now that the russians left, NATO has to reap what it sowed. People have such short memory.
Just me opinion.
Enough in here for you to understand why must it be respected.
I agree with you... I have met folks from this region, they are called "pathan"... sorry for stereotyping... but a lot of these guys do behave like children, albeit with guns... I am not kidding... you piss them off and they are after your life.... They are kinda like "klingons", I am not kidding.... honour is everything to them... you dis-honour them and they are after your life... infact... long before 9/11 and recent events i had wondered if the concept of klingons had originated with these guys
If NATO understands this, they can move out of Afghanistan in a year. Be nice to them and they will do your dishes.... piss them off and you will be hiding for the rest of your life.
Actually I have been waiting for this article to come up, I am a Muslim.
First the marriage issue, even among muslim's this age is disputed, however it serves most (pedophile muslim's) and more to the current topic anyone wanting to show Muslim faith in negative light (by todays standards of a western society). This group is quite large and probably growing because of actions of people who share my faith.
The age comes from a reported incident where folks ask Aisha (years later) what her age was at marriage. Then the reply is recorded verbatim, "9". Problem is, at that time and even now, in arabic, if the base is known, it is not mentioned. So even if the age was 19, known base of 10 would not have been part of the reply, reply would have been 9. Anyhow, this is now just an academic discussion and fodder for those who want to debate on this.
Now more to what the article is about Mohammed and his images. Problem here from a muslim perspective is not freedom of speech. According to Muslim faith images of his and other revered muslim figures are forbidden, lest they spiral into idol worship. God and god alone is to be worshiped.
Denying holocast in Germany and a few other countries is a crime. It offends the victims, it has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Cartoons of Prophet Mohammed is akin to this, but no problem, who cares about these terrorists, freedom of speech must prevail, 1.6 billion be dammed.
I like to think of myself as an educated person, a muslim who grew up in a western society, learning values of both. From what I see, the gap between west and Islam is only going to grow with stuff like cartoons of Mohammed, these guys are akin to suscide bombers of afghanistan, working towards inciting violence (which BTW is a crime in Canada).
I hope things fix themselves in my life time, I really do. Reality check, they are gonna get worst before getting better. Muslim's need to understand western values and respect them, and west need to understand the Islamic faith and respect it. This is not happening in my lifetime.
Just as Taliban and Alqaeda cannot be made to understand western values, so is the issue with the west. I don't even know who is blind, the west or Islam.
Can't you see its offending 1.6 billion people, yet you go ahead and do it.
I can go on, but those who want to understand my point probably did by reading what I have already said, those who did not never will.
Nexus One is in the category I like calling "Also a phone".
If you want a phone go look for a Nokia 6120 or something. Mind you 6120 is more than phone too.
With data usage on these mobile devices becoming more and more common, these things are more of an internet tablet with voice capability (vs the other way round).
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I have said this before.
When you say, "yup, what a bunch of primitive savages.", its correct.
The only point is that its not Islam that is making them do it. They were savages way before Islam, if anything, Islam may have educated them (for better or worst).
There is a very fine line between a savage and a soldier. Here is what Alexander the great had to say about these people.
"I am involved in the land of a 'Leonine' (lion-like) and brave people, where every foot of the ground is like a well of steel, confronting my soldier. You have brought only one son into the world, but Everyone in this land can be called an Alexander."
Ref: wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_period_of_Afghanistan#Alexander_the_Great.2C_Seleucid-Mauryan_rivalry.2C_and_Greco-Bactrian_Rule.2C_330_BCE.E2.80.93ca._150_BCE
Get him one. See if you can find local clubs where they have competitions involving mindstorm and what you can do with them.
If you can invoke the inner gamer's competitiveness in him while taking up mindstorm challenge, you have introduced him to first steps of coding. Next wipe mindstorms firmware off it and load the java firmware.
Another thing, if the goal of your dialog is to piss of the other party, you should be prepared for the response. You won't get roses in response to your slur.
Have a nice weekend, cool off maybe next week you are in a better mood. Its going to get nice and warm, may go boating. Hoping to catch some fish. Enjoy and learn to bridge the gap, too many around to create a divide.
You basically got a response just as thoughtful as yours....
Needless to say, the response is an excellent example of "gap in understanding" that I am talking about.
There are more than enough of "your type" to make things ever work (on both sides).
Yah, the name is a mouth full, UI has lots of room for improvement on the network side, however it more than serves the purpose, plays everything I have thrown at it. Its backed by my NAS on gigabit network, two of these devices on two TVs and I can stream two HD (720p) movies (of any kind) at the same time.
Disclaimer: Usability and customization is not even close to XBMC, nonetheless functionally it does exactly what I want i.e. play any content shared on my local network.
Nothing stopping you except for maybe learning a new language. With Android, you don't even need a fancy certificate to install your code on the device. SDK comes with a utility to do it.
Only problem is, you will need to learn Android development, if you have played with java, its quite straight forward. Google's tutorials are great too.
Personally, I feel more comfortable with Java than with python :)
Not sure how fast it reached Mach 6, however, at Mach 6 in 200 seconds, you have covered over 250 miles (400 km). That's a lot of ground. No point continuing the experiment if whatever you are monitoring can't be monitored because its so far out.
Personally, I "hate" Taliban and al-qaeda. Probably would join NATO to fight these guys if already didn't have a pretty set-up life. I don't even consider these guys followers of Islam as I see it. From what my religious scholars have taught me, these guys are the worst thing that can happen to Islam and the rest of the Muslims. On the same note, I almost feel NATO to be 21st century crusaders (look at some of the responses I got to my thread). People have started hating Islam (i.e. put me in the same boat as Taliban and the gang). They fail to understand Taliban and al-qaeda culture. Religion is the tool being used to corrupt young minds and cause such violence. This violence was always there, Alexander the great left these people alone understanding they are a rough bunch and nothing good will come out of conquering this land (present day Afghanistan).
What gave you the idea if you are not a Mulsim you must be killed.
There are quotes from quran that are used to portray this view. However that is really is part of a sentence that starts of with "if you are at a war". You may think what you want for a religious book talking of killing, however those instructions are clearly when engaged in a war. The very same para also says you "must" protect non-muslim under your rule and respect their faith, else you will be held accountable at day of judgment. There is a lot more here than news at 11 tells you.
I thought only religious fanatics lived in trailer parks... what are you doing there....
Before respect must come understanding.... Its not even there yet...
Please comment on this article.... I would like to share you views on freedom of expression in this article.... take your time...
http://www.allpakistaninews.com/two-faces-of-one-facebook.html
No it won't, you are correct here. In fact, I don't care about these images, didn't even bother looking. Nonetheless, I understand the sentiments, this is what I would like other to understand to. The sentiment of a large group of people we share this planet with. BTW, this understanding goes both ways is the point I am tried to make.
By the responses I got, I personally did understand my effort was moot, unfortunately, more innocent will suffer because of this huge gap in understanding.
that makes perfect sense then...
1) 1.6 billion offend 1.1 billion
2) then 1.1 billion offend 1.6 billion.
3) Goto 1 (multiply offend by 2)
Glad we all know where this goes (or already has gone). Enjoy the world we have created.
I agree, I for sure hate their guts for screwing up my faith.
On the other hand, I understand every party involved needs to understand and respect (at least show respect) for things to get better. Unless that is not the goal.
Sterotyping here... but Taliban are like Klingons form startrek. Honour is everything to them, dis-honour pisses them off just as much.
Half information is a dangerous thing.
Two large sects in Islam are Shia and Sunni.
The second large sect, Shia, (which I belong to), does not even dispute her age and understands it to be 19.
Further, Islam uses what are called "hadith" i.e. stories/incidents that happened during prophets time as anologies for modern day issues. These hadiths are noted verbatim.
If I buy a chocolate, someone may asks me how much it costs... I will say 2 9 9, that does not mean two hundred and ninety nine dollars. It means 2 dollars and ninety nine cents. You on the other hand may reply 2$ and 99 cents. None of the expressions are wrong, yet different. If I was to save these verbatim, 1000 years later we will be having this discussion.
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>Hopefully, Islam will fail.
LOL
Dark ages is when Islam was thriving. Baghdad had scientists, traders and poets when Europe didn't have food. Without understanding, there is no hope of world peace, hoping Islam will fail is wishful thinking, its only growing.
I'm saying you need to respect most, what gives you the right to disrespect beliefs of another.
Islam is often confused with arab culture.
Until Mongols invaded Baghdad, Islam and modern day Iraq was a society of learned scientists, traders and poets. Lots of your mathematics, chemistry and biology comes from followers of Islam from this era.
Baghdad was thriving with culture when Europe was in dark ages. Its said when mongols invaded Baghdad, piles of books burned was only topped by piles of skulls. Unfortunately, mongols converted to Islam. I think that put this religion on the wrong path.
Second, CIA gave more than enough blessing to Saudi Arabia and pakistan to create "taliban" (BTW, taliban means learned). Saudi oil money is what opened up these religious schools that taught jihad to combat russians in afghanistan. Now that the russians left, NATO has to reap what it sowed. People have such short memory.
Just me opinion.
Enough in here for you to understand why must it be respected.
I agree with you... I have met folks from this region, they are called "pathan"... sorry for stereotyping... but a lot of these guys do behave like children, albeit with guns... I am not kidding... you piss them off and they are after your life.... They are kinda like "klingons", I am not kidding.... honour is everything to them... you dis-honour them and they are after your life... infact... long before 9/11 and recent events i had wondered if the concept of klingons had originated with these guys
If NATO understands this, they can move out of Afghanistan in a year. Be nice to them and they will do your dishes.... piss them off and you will be hiding for the rest of your life.
No one discusses god as much as an Atheist...
This is what I mean.... you don't understand it.
You confuse Arab culture with Islam...
http://www.allpakistaninews.com/two-faces-of-one-facebook.html
So much for your freedom of expression....
http://www.allpakistaninews.com/two-faces-of-one-facebook.html
Actually I have been waiting for this article to come up, I am a Muslim.
First the marriage issue, even among muslim's this age is disputed, however it serves most (pedophile muslim's) and more to the current topic anyone wanting to show Muslim faith in negative light (by todays standards of a western society). This group is quite large and probably growing because of actions of people who share my faith.
The age comes from a reported incident where folks ask Aisha (years later) what her age was at marriage. Then the reply is recorded verbatim, "9". Problem is, at that time and even now, in arabic, if the base is known, it is not mentioned. So even if the age was 19, known base of 10 would not have been part of the reply, reply would have been 9. Anyhow, this is now just an academic discussion and fodder for those who want to debate on this.
Now more to what the article is about Mohammed and his images. Problem here from a muslim perspective is not freedom of speech. According to Muslim faith images of his and other revered muslim figures are forbidden, lest they spiral into idol worship. God and god alone is to be worshiped.
Denying holocast in Germany and a few other countries is a crime. It offends the victims, it has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Cartoons of Prophet Mohammed is akin to this, but no problem, who cares about these terrorists, freedom of speech must prevail, 1.6 billion be dammed.
I like to think of myself as an educated person, a muslim who grew up in a western society, learning values of both. From what I see, the gap between west and Islam is only going to grow with stuff like cartoons of Mohammed, these guys are akin to suscide bombers of afghanistan, working towards inciting violence (which BTW is a crime in Canada).
I hope things fix themselves in my life time, I really do. Reality check, they are gonna get worst before getting better. Muslim's need to understand western values and respect them, and west need to understand the Islamic faith and respect it. This is not happening in my lifetime.
Just as Taliban and Alqaeda cannot be made to understand western values, so is the issue with the west. I don't even know who is blind, the west or Islam.
Can't you see its offending 1.6 billion people, yet you go ahead and do it.
I can go on, but those who want to understand my point probably did by reading what I have already said, those who did not never will.
Thats because you are looking for a phone.
Nexus One is in the category I like calling "Also a phone".
If you want a phone go look for a Nokia 6120 or something. Mind you 6120 is more than phone too.
With data usage on these mobile devices becoming more and more common, these things are more of an internet tablet with voice capability (vs the other way round).
Candy was given to this kid by her friend.