If you can photocopy a book for cheaper than you can buy it, have at it. If you can find a way to break-even on that proposition, more power to ya. If you think it's worth your while, go for it.
I think I've run out of ways to say it now.
Don't charge a single cent for it, or become profitable at all, though; then you've definitely run afoul of the spirit of copyright law. Either way, you've run afoul of the letter of the law and, most probably the spirit, as well, by distributing.
But I'm not talking about uploading (distributing); I'm talking about downloading. The letter of the law and, indeed, the spirit of the law, don't condemn that.
Except, if you break into my house and I replace my lock afterward, the next person also has to do the work of breaking in. Maybe they don't know how or don't want to do that work.
When I break your DRM and post the movie online, the next person doesn't have to do that work. It only has to be done once.
Ok, so it doesn't help. I'm not going to concede that to you, but I'm not going to argue it, either; I simply don't feel like digging up the resources to back it up (and... someone else already did, if you look up a bit above this post).
I'd like you to point out exactly how, given that I'm unable or unwilling to pay, my download is HURTING them.
Are they paying for bandwidth for my download?
Are they paying to duplicate the bits for my download?
Has a copy disappeared from their warehouse for my download?
Have they lost possession of the song, show, movie, application, book, or other piece of media for my download?
Have they lost a sale? You'll probably argue this point, but you've already stated that there was no potential sale, because I am unable or unwilling to purchase.
My numbers aren't off at all. A new clutch disc (friction disc), pressure plate, and slave cylinder for my truck ran me $200 when I replaced them 5 years ago (I've since sold the truck... and now I miss it). Out of sheer curiosity, I researched pricing on auto trannies for the same truck; I was able to get a rebuilt for $2000.
I never mentioned labor because I did the work myself.
WTF does your reply have to do with the post you're replying to? I (albeit sarcastically) pointed out that a desktop computer can have a touchscreen and you're still on about the fucking mouse.
Move the cursor to where you want to perform the action, perform the action on the multitouch surface of the Magic Mouse.
For MacBooks, the same could be done with the integrated (multi)touchpad.
I'm not a Mac user (I will be as soon as the machine my new employer is sending me arrives), but I do think outside the box.
unrelated -- In a few days (or hours, you never know with UPS), I'll have Win, Lin, and OSX all working happily together. Why the fighting, guys? Why?
Back on topic -- For the type of usage it's likely to see from me, I'd never want an iPad in its current implementation. This announcement is making me consider one for living room use by the end of the year.
Apple has a very good thing going with developers...
Unless you consider that "The latest revision of Apple's developer licensing agreement explicitly prohibits the use of third-party software to develop for the iPhone." -- [Daring Fireball]
well maybe some people do want to tinker with their computers - that cool device that does what most people want it to do, and doesn't crash, suffer viruses etc etc etc would be perfect for everyone if it weren't locked down. have you considered that in your rather elitist world view?
We only hate them when they're not giving us free candy. Any other time, we climb willingly into their old, brown van. Mmmmmmm.... Suckers... Err, I mean lolipops.
It's really hard to hate Google while it still appears that they haven't grossly misused any the petabytes of data they house, they don't overcharge for things that should be free, they give away things they could easily charge for, and damnit, they're just so cute and cuddly. Like a cat.
Oh... Wait... You mean to tell me a cat has a fluffy side AND a sharp side?
I think that's why the terrorists are pissed at us. We let out call quality drop so much that the only pin we can hear drop from clear across the country now is a detonation pin on a nuclear bomb.
</sarcasm class="witty-with-a-grain-of-truth">
Seriously, though, you make a decent point and I do remember the old AT&T commercials. Oh shit, is 28 really old now? Wow.
If you're concerned that people might have to dial 2 numbers to reach you when you have no signal, set up a Google Voice number to ring both phones, then give out THAT number.
Problem: solved.
An added bonus -- you can configure GV to go straight to voicemail at certain hours. Get a goo night's sleep while still being contactable in an emergency (your phone is still on and anyone who has that number can be told to call it in case of emergency).
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If you can photocopy a book for cheaper than you can buy it, have at it. If you can find a way to break-even on that proposition, more power to ya. If you think it's worth your while, go for it.
I think I've run out of ways to say it now.
Don't charge a single cent for it, or become profitable at all, though; then you've definitely run afoul of the spirit of copyright law. Either way, you've run afoul of the letter of the law and, most probably the spirit, as well, by distributing.
But I'm not talking about uploading (distributing); I'm talking about downloading. The letter of the law and, indeed, the spirit of the law, don't condemn that.
So by downloading The Hurt Locker, which you, presumably, had no hand in creating, I'm stealing from you ?
That's a fucking new one.
When my downloading a file from you leaves you unable to access that file any longer, I'll call it stealing.
Until then, shut the god damned fuck up already.
Except, if you break into my house and I replace my lock afterward, the next person also has to do the work of breaking in. Maybe they don't know how or don't want to do that work.
When I break your DRM and post the movie online, the next person doesn't have to do that work. It only has to be done once.
My lock stopped somebody. Your DRM did not.
That comment implies that DRM makes it difficult in the first place.
Ok, so it doesn't help. I'm not going to concede that to you, but I'm not going to argue it, either; I simply don't feel like digging up the resources to back it up (and... someone else already did, if you look up a bit above this post).
I'd like you to point out exactly how, given that I'm unable or unwilling to pay, my download is HURTING them.
Are they paying for bandwidth for my download?
Are they paying to duplicate the bits for my download?
Has a copy disappeared from their warehouse for my download?
Have they lost possession of the song, show, movie, application, book, or other piece of media for my download?
Have they lost a sale? You'll probably argue this point, but you've already stated that there was no potential sale, because I am unable or unwilling to purchase.
Did you have a point?
IMHO Nukes are the only way forward.
So, we vaporize anyone who uses less oil than us and suddenly we're the lowest consumer?
Now, there's an idea I can get behind!
No, no, no, turn that around!
WB must be a bunch of purse-snatching car thieves. We need to DO SOMETHING!
My numbers aren't off at all. A new clutch disc (friction disc), pressure plate, and slave cylinder for my truck ran me $200 when I replaced them 5 years ago (I've since sold the truck... and now I miss it). Out of sheer curiosity, I researched pricing on auto trannies for the same truck; I was able to get a rebuilt for $2000.
I never mentioned labor because I did the work myself.
By the time I've replaced my $200 clutch 5 times, you've replaced your $2000 transmission twice.
WTF does your reply have to do with the post you're replying to? I (albeit sarcastically) pointed out that a desktop computer can have a touchscreen and you're still on about the fucking mouse.
And a desktop computer can't have a touch screen.
Oh. Wait.
Magic Mouse?
Move the cursor to where you want to perform the action, perform the action on the multitouch surface of the Magic Mouse.
For MacBooks, the same could be done with the integrated (multi)touchpad.
I'm not a Mac user (I will be as soon as the machine my new employer is sending me arrives), but I do think outside the box.
unrelated -- In a few days (or hours, you never know with UPS), I'll have Win, Lin, and OSX all working happily together. Why the fighting, guys? Why?
Back on topic -- For the type of usage it's likely to see from me, I'd never want an iPad in its current implementation. This announcement is making me consider one for living room use by the end of the year.
HEY MODS!
+5 Funny
Eh? Modded down for quoting the rest of the referenced post for context?
Does Anonymous Coward have sockpuppets now?
GeoDefense... Is that what Apple calls updates patching the exploits used to jailbreak the iPhone?
Apple has a very good thing going with developers...
Unless you consider that "The latest revision of Apple's developer licensing agreement explicitly prohibits the use of third-party software to develop for the iPhone." -- [Daring Fireball]
Unless you consider
and OS X
you mean reinvent a dumbed-down version of an existing category of consumer device, right?
and yes. i'm being serious. mods, keep that in mind.
well maybe some people do want to tinker with their computers - that cool device that does what most people want it to do, and doesn't crash, suffer viruses etc etc etc would be perfect for everyone if it weren't locked down. have you considered that in your rather elitist world view?
There. Fixed that for you.
Bravo, kind sir, bravo.
You left out the most important!
In soviet russia, power meter turns YOU on.
We only hate them when they're not giving us free candy. Any other time, we climb willingly into their old, brown van. Mmmmmmm.... Suckers... Err, I mean lolipops.
It's really hard to hate Google while it still appears that they haven't grossly misused any the petabytes of data they house, they don't overcharge for things that should be free, they give away things they could easily charge for, and damnit, they're just so cute and cuddly. Like a cat.
Oh... Wait... You mean to tell me a cat has a fluffy side AND a sharp side?
I think that's why the terrorists are pissed at us. We let out call quality drop so much that the only pin we can hear drop from clear across the country now is a detonation pin on a nuclear bomb.
</sarcasm class="witty-with-a-grain-of-truth">
Seriously, though, you make a decent point and I do remember the old AT&T commercials. Oh shit, is 28 really old now? Wow.
Landline.
If you're concerned that people might have to dial 2 numbers to reach you when you have no signal, set up a Google Voice number to ring both phones, then give out THAT number.
Problem: solved.
An added bonus -- you can configure GV to go straight to voicemail at certain hours. Get a goo night's sleep while still being contactable in an emergency (your phone is still on and anyone who has that number can be told to call it in case of emergency).
Freedom isn't free.