the metaphor was first recorded in the twelfth century and attributed to Bernard of Chartres.[1] It was famously uttered by seventeenth-century scientist Isaac Newton (see below), as the statement "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
From TFS: "The idea behind the 'Know Me' program is that by using Google Images to ID passengers". They're not searching by name, they're searching for your name. They simply won't find yours.
But hell, I googled my 81 year old dad's name and found his picture and baby picture, and he's never used a computer in his life. Apparently a distant relative had been doing genealogy research and posting it. I found his mother there, too.
Try googling your full name and see what happens. You'll be shocked at what you find. Ever buy a house? If so, your full name is on the internet.
Mine's pretty much factory-stock. I suspect that the reason it crashes is my accessing data files from my other computer using Samba. Explorer is designed to not work on a network without W7Pro, but if I make a directory a shared directory KDE accesses its files like they were local files.
You're in music and design? In the 3 story building I work in there's a mainframe (unsure as to who built it, they had an IBM a decade ago), a whole lot of Windows computers, and no Macs at all. When you have to deploy thousands of PCs, you just don't go out and buy the most expensive ones on the market on a whim.
I have to agree with the other respondant to your comment, you're really showing your ignorance. I have a Linux tower and a Win7 notebook. I used to have an identical notebook that got stolen, I'd installed kubuntu on it and it had no issues whatever. In fact, after I installed Linux it took five minutes to figure out how to disable the tap to click "feature"; it took months to find where MS had hidden it.
It's been a long, long time since I've had any issues whatever in Linux. I only go to the command promt if I need to reset the root password (I have a Linux app on CD that will reset a Windows Admin passsword). The Linux box uses the TV as a monitor, the cordless keyboard's batteries have been dead for months; I rarely use it. I can do almost everything with just a mouse, including trade files with the Windows box (the Windows box won't network with another Windows box unless there's the pro edition running on the network somewhere).
You have your analogy exactly backwards. The Windows PC needs constant maintenance. When I bought a bluetooth dongle I had to install software and reboot twice. I plugged it into the Linux box and it just worked. At least once a month I have to download Windows patches, install them (and usually have to enter the admin password to do so), and reboot, often several times. On the Linux box, when there's a patch available a window pops up, I click once and go on doing what it was I was doing.
On the rare occasion I shut the Linux box off, when it reboots it comes back exactly like it was. I actually avoid updating the Windows box because I don't want to reopen all the files and apps and browser tabs; I almost always let it hibernate.
If I want new software on the Windows box I have to run an install program, click through quite a few boxes, and reboot. With Linux I fetch it from the repository and go on working.
If I install hardware in a Windows box I have to install drivers. Linux finds the drivers for me and installs them automatically, in the background.
Seriously, Windows is the twenty year old rusted pickup truck that has no AC or power anything and a manual shift and clutch. Linux is a Porche that's unfortunately painted piss yellow and shit brown (Windows is prettier).
Windows has only two advantages for a home computer user: better games, and NetFlix. Linux wins in every other category. Its drawback for the average joe is that he can't buy a PC with it preinstalled; normal people don't install OSes.
And I have in fact replaced Windows with Linux on folks' computers when the registry was so trashed it barely ran, and in every case they were impressed with its features and astounded that they'd never heard of it before. I'd traded their pretty but primitive pickup truck with an Escalade painted an ugly color.
My freedom to install software on my computer is not less important than some OEM's freedom to restrict what software runs on their products.
THEIR products? You paid for them, they're yours. I'd say you have every right to do anything you damned well please on your own equipment, and the vendor has no rights whatever after he has your cash. His rights are completely unimportant, yours are supremely important.
This is like Ford saying you're only allowed to use Firestone tires, Goodrich aren't allowed.
And you are a blathering idiot if you actually believe MS engineers are not some of the best software engineers in the world.
And you're not paying attention if you do. BSODs? Linux never had one. Random crashes? I don't know of Apple suffering from this, but Explorer crashes at least once a week on my Win 7 notebook.
Sorry, fool, try out another OS and you'll see just how damned bad MS "engineers" are.
Your view is worthless when it comes to defining words. Here's what the dictionary says:
Definition of STATIST : an advocate of statism â" statist adjective
STATISM concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry
You're confusing coffee with cocaine. Coffee doesn't cause heart disease. It does, however, protect you against the most common skin cancers and can help stave off your brain's aging.
You may, we don't. The feds do NOT have much say over voting, that is left to the individual states. Here in Illinois there's a paper trail, probably because of our long history of election fraud. AFAIK Florida still uses punch cards.
Any election reform is up to your state's legislators, not the feds.
Stop poisoning the discourse by giving Microsoft such a disproportionate share of the hate. Adobe's just as bad, and Oracle's a lot worse. Why don't you rail against them?
Because the discussion is about Microsoft. Don't worry, the next Adobe or Oracle article posted will get their share of venom.
Why don't we talk about how, once Windows is gone, our only practical choice will be between a walled garden or an operating system that's philosophically dominated by the toxic, vapid musings of a man who literally believes that it is better to let your children starve to death than ply your trade as a software developer?
That sounded a bit trollish (how you got modded up is beyond me), but I'm going to assume you're serious. There is no "Linux" and nobody dominates it. There's Red Hat, Ubuntu, Mint, Mandriva, and a host of other Linuxes. Plus there are Gnome, KDE, and other desktops to choose from.
Your "let your children starve to death than ply your trade as a software developer" sounds like a rant from the RIAA. If my software is better than yours and I'm giving it away, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Find a job you're better at, it's only your own lazy selfishness that lets your children starve. You sound like Lars complaining about the guy sitting on the corner with a guitar singing his own compositions, for free! Do you have something agaisnt my posting original SF on Slashdot in my journal because it makes some SF writer's children starve? WTF is wrong with you???
If Windows wasn't so annoying, why in the hell would anyone install Linux in the first place?
Intel had the bright idea back in the nineties and it was soundly rejected; Intel got a lot of bad publicity and backed off. Then MS came up with "Palladium" ten years ago and it, too, was soundly rejected and MS got yet another black eye.
WTF, people?? FIGHT THIS MADNESS!! This is yet another round of MS's war against all other OSes. This is MS wanting to control YOUR computer. This has no upsides whatever, and is all bad.
Gees, ten years isn't that long, have you folks forgotten already?
it's more true to say that a quarter of you are idiots and half of you are dangerously apathetic.
When both candidates want you in prison and both seem to be terrible candidates in many other ways and neither shows any positive traits whatever and you don't realise that there are 3 more viable parties, why bother showing up? Dogshit sandwich or catshit sandwich? Nah, I'm not that hungry.
Not apathy, simply acceptance of the facts and resignation. Me? I split my vote between the Greens and Libbies, voting for the one who's the least batshit insane. It's the same as voting "none of the above".
Your analogy has quite a few flaws. You are in effect saying that the cave man (windows) has a better immune system (AV software). Macs and Windows are more like cats and dogs; they don't get the same diseases.
As to your cave man eating raw meat, dying from eating raw meat is far more recent. Fifty years ago you could safely eat raw hamburger, chicken, or eggs with little risk of food poisoning and in fact many people enjoyed chicken and hamburgers cooked rare, but ranching methods have changed drastically. We use to make eggnog -- it's a mixture of raw egg yolk, milk, sugar, and cinnamon. It was traditionally used on Christmas because raw egg yolk contains an emzyme that combats hangovers, but try that today and you'll be far more miserable the next day, because one in three eggs now has salmonella.
If you fed a cave man a raw steak from today's grocery store, he'd get as sick as you would.
His point was that both were bad Governors, so Texans are prone to vote for the wrong candidates. And Bush lost the popular vote for President, in 2004 he lost in a landslide in Illinois with only 25% of the votes, so you can't say that the Aerican voter is as bad as Texas voters.
(That said, we've elected some really REALLY bad Governors here in Illinois, our last two are in prison right now).
It never was funny or clever, it was just plain evil and the GP had a valid point -- someone should have gone to prison for XCP.
Are you a troll or a shill? Just wondering... I was bitten by this and will never again buy anything from Sony. Anyone who would buy electronics from someone who would install malware on their eqipment is the biggest fool in the world.
In every other part of IT, 'ease of use' is almost diametrically opposed to 'secure'.
So, you're saying that my kubuntu box is less secure than my Win 7 box? Because Windows frustrates the hell out of me, the kubuntu box just keeps chugging along without problems. Example: Bluetooth. I bought a dongle to move pictures from my phone, and it came with no Linux install disk. After installing the software on my Win 7 box and rebooting twice, it was flaky but worked. Linux? I just plugged the dongle in and it worked. Fifteen minutes of installation and reboots vs one second to plug it in. At least once a month and often more often I have to install Windows patches and reboot, often several times. With Linux the notification pops up and I click it and continue doing whatever it was that I turned the PC on for in the first place.
MS's vaunted useability is a myth propagated by those who grew up with Windows. Those of us whose first computer was tape driven and BASIC/Assembly-based, then DOS, then Windows, had no problem at all using Linux. Ten years ago there were driver issues, but I haven't seen them in a long, long time.
Until recently, mac users refused to believe this piece of wisdom, pointing to the lack of viruses and malware, and (erroneously) concluding that it was because their OS of choice was somehow more resiliant to such attacks.
Macs are more resiliant; you won't get a virus on one. But this is a trojan, not a virus. I don't care what OS you're using, if I can convince you to install a piece of software as root, I own your computer.
It doesn't matter if you're running Windows, iOS, or even NSA Linux, if you're downloading warez you're putting yourself at risk. Most Linux users won't touch a piece of software that isn't in the repository. I'm not so sure about Mac users.
You assume that the MAFIAA doesn't want you getting a free copy of Metallica's "Free Speech for the Dumb" or Paramount's "Star Trek VII". That's not what they really fear. What the RIAA fears is independants who aren't on their labels; a pirated copy of Metallica doesn't cost them a dime, but if you download that indie title, like it, and buy it, that's money that doesn't go to the RIAA for their crap.
And I'm sure the MPAA is scared shitless of Star Wreck. Better than most crap Hollywood produces, was shot for a few thousand bucks, and given away free at the link above (you can also buy a copy). The MAFIAA can't compete with independants; MAFIAA crap is too expensive to produce to be able to compete.
So they scream "piracy" and try to shut down their competetion's only form of advertising and distribution.
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Not necessarily an idiot, but ignorantly uneducated and aliterate. Ignorance != stupidity.
No, "aliterate" wasn't a misspelling or typo.
Like this?
Newton wasn't the first to say that.
the metaphor was first recorded in the twelfth century and attributed to Bernard of Chartres.[1] It was famously uttered by seventeenth-century scientist Isaac Newton (see below), as the statement "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
It's officlai /. is durnk.
You drank slashdot?
From TFS: "The idea behind the 'Know Me' program is that by using Google Images to ID passengers". They're not searching by name, they're searching for your name. They simply won't find yours.
But hell, I googled my 81 year old dad's name and found his picture and baby picture, and he's never used a computer in his life. Apparently a distant relative had been doing genealogy research and posting it. I found his mother there, too.
Try googling your full name and see what happens. You'll be shocked at what you find. Ever buy a house? If so, your full name is on the internet.
Mine's pretty much factory-stock. I suspect that the reason it crashes is my accessing data files from my other computer using Samba. Explorer is designed to not work on a network without W7Pro, but if I make a directory a shared directory KDE accesses its files like they were local files.
On the whole, it's IMO the best OS MS has come up with. But I miss many of KDE's features on the Windows machine.
Doh!!!
You're in music and design? In the 3 story building I work in there's a mainframe (unsure as to who built it, they had an IBM a decade ago), a whole lot of Windows computers, and no Macs at all. When you have to deploy thousands of PCs, you just don't go out and buy the most expensive ones on the market on a whim.
Your office is not the average office.
I have to agree with the other respondant to your comment, you're really showing your ignorance. I have a Linux tower and a Win7 notebook. I used to have an identical notebook that got stolen, I'd installed kubuntu on it and it had no issues whatever. In fact, after I installed Linux it took five minutes to figure out how to disable the tap to click "feature"; it took months to find where MS had hidden it.
It's been a long, long time since I've had any issues whatever in Linux. I only go to the command promt if I need to reset the root password (I have a Linux app on CD that will reset a Windows Admin passsword). The Linux box uses the TV as a monitor, the cordless keyboard's batteries have been dead for months; I rarely use it. I can do almost everything with just a mouse, including trade files with the Windows box (the Windows box won't network with another Windows box unless there's the pro edition running on the network somewhere).
You have your analogy exactly backwards. The Windows PC needs constant maintenance. When I bought a bluetooth dongle I had to install software and reboot twice. I plugged it into the Linux box and it just worked. At least once a month I have to download Windows patches, install them (and usually have to enter the admin password to do so), and reboot, often several times. On the Linux box, when there's a patch available a window pops up, I click once and go on doing what it was I was doing.
On the rare occasion I shut the Linux box off, when it reboots it comes back exactly like it was. I actually avoid updating the Windows box because I don't want to reopen all the files and apps and browser tabs; I almost always let it hibernate.
If I want new software on the Windows box I have to run an install program, click through quite a few boxes, and reboot. With Linux I fetch it from the repository and go on working.
If I install hardware in a Windows box I have to install drivers. Linux finds the drivers for me and installs them automatically, in the background.
Seriously, Windows is the twenty year old rusted pickup truck that has no AC or power anything and a manual shift and clutch. Linux is a Porche that's unfortunately painted piss yellow and shit brown (Windows is prettier).
Windows has only two advantages for a home computer user: better games, and NetFlix. Linux wins in every other category. Its drawback for the average joe is that he can't buy a PC with it preinstalled; normal people don't install OSes.
And I have in fact replaced Windows with Linux on folks' computers when the registry was so trashed it barely ran, and in every case they were impressed with its features and astounded that they'd never heard of it before. I'd traded their pretty but primitive pickup truck with an Escalade painted an ugly color.
Python is a language. It's a tool to build other tools with, including data analysis tools.
My freedom to install software on my computer is not less important than some OEM's freedom to restrict what software runs on their products.
THEIR products? You paid for them, they're yours. I'd say you have every right to do anything you damned well please on your own equipment, and the vendor has no rights whatever after he has your cash. His rights are completely unimportant, yours are supremely important.
This is like Ford saying you're only allowed to use Firestone tires, Goodrich aren't allowed.
It's madness to go along with this evil bullshit.
And you are a blathering idiot if you actually believe MS engineers are not some of the best software engineers in the world.
And you're not paying attention if you do. BSODs? Linux never had one. Random crashes? I don't know of Apple suffering from this, but Explorer crashes at least once a week on my Win 7 notebook.
Sorry, fool, try out another OS and you'll see just how damned bad MS "engineers" are.
My view is that a statist is a derogatory term...
Your view is worthless when it comes to defining words. Here's what the dictionary says:
Wikipedia:
There's absolutely no point in arguing about definitions when there are dictionaries and encyclopedias.
You're confusing coffee with cocaine. Coffee doesn't cause heart disease. It does, however, protect you against the most common skin cancers and can help stave off your brain's aging.
There is nothing whatever wrong with coffee.
You may, we don't. The feds do NOT have much say over voting, that is left to the individual states. Here in Illinois there's a paper trail, probably because of our long history of election fraud. AFAIK Florida still uses punch cards.
Any election reform is up to your state's legislators, not the feds.
Stop poisoning the discourse by giving Microsoft such a disproportionate share of the hate. Adobe's just as bad, and Oracle's a lot worse. Why don't you rail against them?
Because the discussion is about Microsoft. Don't worry, the next Adobe or Oracle article posted will get their share of venom.
Why don't we talk about how, once Windows is gone, our only practical choice will be between a walled garden or an operating system that's philosophically dominated by the toxic, vapid musings of a man who literally believes that it is better to let your children starve to death than ply your trade as a software developer?
That sounded a bit trollish (how you got modded up is beyond me), but I'm going to assume you're serious. There is no "Linux" and nobody dominates it. There's Red Hat, Ubuntu, Mint, Mandriva, and a host of other Linuxes. Plus there are Gnome, KDE, and other desktops to choose from.
Your "let your children starve to death than ply your trade as a software developer" sounds like a rant from the RIAA. If my software is better than yours and I'm giving it away, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Find a job you're better at, it's only your own lazy selfishness that lets your children starve. You sound like Lars complaining about the guy sitting on the corner with a guitar singing his own compositions, for free! Do you have something agaisnt my posting original SF on Slashdot in my journal because it makes some SF writer's children starve? WTF is wrong with you???
If Windows wasn't so annoying, why in the hell would anyone install Linux in the first place?
Intel had the bright idea back in the nineties and it was soundly rejected; Intel got a lot of bad publicity and backed off. Then MS came up with "Palladium" ten years ago and it, too, was soundly rejected and MS got yet another black eye.
WTF, people?? FIGHT THIS MADNESS!! This is yet another round of MS's war against all other OSes. This is MS wanting to control YOUR computer. This has no upsides whatever, and is all bad.
Gees, ten years isn't that long, have you folks forgotten already?
This was in the fall of 2012
Huh??? That's a few months in the future. Do you drive a DeLorean?
it's more true to say that a quarter of you are idiots and half of you are dangerously apathetic.
When both candidates want you in prison and both seem to be terrible candidates in many other ways and neither shows any positive traits whatever and you don't realise that there are 3 more viable parties, why bother showing up? Dogshit sandwich or catshit sandwich? Nah, I'm not that hungry.
Not apathy, simply acceptance of the facts and resignation. Me? I split my vote between the Greens and Libbies, voting for the one who's the least batshit insane. It's the same as voting "none of the above".
Your analogy has quite a few flaws. You are in effect saying that the cave man (windows) has a better immune system (AV software). Macs and Windows are more like cats and dogs; they don't get the same diseases.
As to your cave man eating raw meat, dying from eating raw meat is far more recent. Fifty years ago you could safely eat raw hamburger, chicken, or eggs with little risk of food poisoning and in fact many people enjoyed chicken and hamburgers cooked rare, but ranching methods have changed drastically. We use to make eggnog -- it's a mixture of raw egg yolk, milk, sugar, and cinnamon. It was traditionally used on Christmas because raw egg yolk contains an emzyme that combats hangovers, but try that today and you'll be far more miserable the next day, because one in three eggs now has salmonella.
If you fed a cave man a raw steak from today's grocery store, he'd get as sick as you would.
His point was that both were bad Governors, so Texans are prone to vote for the wrong candidates. And Bush lost the popular vote for President, in 2004 he lost in a landslide in Illinois with only 25% of the votes, so you can't say that the Aerican voter is as bad as Texas voters.
(That said, we've elected some really REALLY bad Governors here in Illinois, our last two are in prison right now).
It never was funny or clever, it was just plain evil and the GP had a valid point -- someone should have gone to prison for XCP.
Are you a troll or a shill? Just wondering... I was bitten by this and will never again buy anything from Sony. Anyone who would buy electronics from someone who would install malware on their eqipment is the biggest fool in the world.
In every other part of IT, 'ease of use' is almost diametrically opposed to 'secure'.
So, you're saying that my kubuntu box is less secure than my Win 7 box? Because Windows frustrates the hell out of me, the kubuntu box just keeps chugging along without problems. Example: Bluetooth. I bought a dongle to move pictures from my phone, and it came with no Linux install disk. After installing the software on my Win 7 box and rebooting twice, it was flaky but worked. Linux? I just plugged the dongle in and it worked. Fifteen minutes of installation and reboots vs one second to plug it in. At least once a month and often more often I have to install Windows patches and reboot, often several times. With Linux the notification pops up and I click it and continue doing whatever it was that I turned the PC on for in the first place.
MS's vaunted useability is a myth propagated by those who grew up with Windows. Those of us whose first computer was tape driven and BASIC/Assembly-based, then DOS, then Windows, had no problem at all using Linux. Ten years ago there were driver issues, but I haven't seen them in a long, long time.
Until recently, mac users refused to believe this piece of wisdom, pointing to the lack of viruses and malware, and (erroneously) concluding that it was because their OS of choice was somehow more resiliant to such attacks.
Macs are more resiliant; you won't get a virus on one. But this is a trojan, not a virus. I don't care what OS you're using, if I can convince you to install a piece of software as root, I own your computer.
It doesn't matter if you're running Windows, iOS, or even NSA Linux, if you're downloading warez you're putting yourself at risk. Most Linux users won't touch a piece of software that isn't in the repository. I'm not so sure about Mac users.
You assume that the MAFIAA doesn't want you getting a free copy of Metallica's "Free Speech for the Dumb" or Paramount's "Star Trek VII". That's not what they really fear. What the RIAA fears is independants who aren't on their labels; a pirated copy of Metallica doesn't cost them a dime, but if you download that indie title, like it, and buy it, that's money that doesn't go to the RIAA for their crap.
And I'm sure the MPAA is scared shitless of Star Wreck. Better than most crap Hollywood produces, was shot for a few thousand bucks, and given away free at the link above (you can also buy a copy). The MAFIAA can't compete with independants; MAFIAA crap is too expensive to produce to be able to compete.
So they scream "piracy" and try to shut down their competetion's only form of advertising and distribution.