Had WWIII broken out and I and guys like me not been there you'd never have been born, son. Do you bitch about the week the combat soldiers sit in the field, bored out of their minds, between firefights? I was keeping your parents safe, moron, just as I was when driving a tractor on the flightline, hauling shit to the planes. Do you have any fucking idea how hard it was to hook a pintle hook to some of thet gear? Some of it was so heavy I didn't pull it to the tractor, I pulled the tractor to it. BY HAND.
It was thirty five years ago. Those planes aren't there any more. The cold war ended twenty years ago, and the cold war was the only reason for those secrets to be secret. IT DOESN'T MATTER TODAY.
Hell, I used to not even mention Beale's name, damned near everything was top secret. But once the Soviets collapsed, the cold war ended and SAC was disbanded, it no longer mattered.
And, no one needs to know how fast she really traveled during missions or how high she really flew...
Well, that is one of many things I won't talk about. Especially how high the ceiling was. But the number of blackbirds at Beale a third of a century ago is irrelavent today.
I'm pretty sure NASA is still using blackbirds, saw something about it on NOVA a few years ago.
love the BUF, she's still flying, and whine all you want about something better, she does her job! understand the job then you'll understand the platform
It isn't me whining for something new, it's the kids who think everything new is always better than everything old. The BUFs are still useful and used.
You would never have heard of either of them if a) both of Gates' parents were IBM lawyers and b) the other guy... Nolan Bushnell? Can't remember, but another guy who was offered the OS contract got tired of IBM's arrogant BS and walked away from a fortune, only to have Gates and Allen get it.
software that has also had fixes and service packs applied does NOT run on 11 year old machines
It sounds to me like Microsoft should hire some Linux programmers to work on their OSes then, the guys they have now must be barely competent at what they do. When I first got XP I think I was running 64 megs. Talk about bloat!
I'm running kubuntu 11.10 on an old machine right now. Its maximum memory is a gig, I have 750 meg in it. It runs videos streamed from the net without stuttering, all while doing other useful work.
I'm not sure how big a hard drive I can put in it, it was nonfunctional when it was given to me, with a trashed hard drive and the CPU fan had come unplugged. I stuck an old 80 gig in it, will probably need to get a bare bones box when I fill that drive (I'm using my other computer for most storage). When I do, that one will be used to sample audio from the newer computer. 7 whole legal CDs a week for free every Sunday night at KSHE. Still very useful.
They really screwed up with the minidisk; the nice thing about them was that they would fit in a shirt pocket, and they held (iirc) 250 mb, which is 250 floppies worth of data in the same sized medium as a floppy. You could easily fit a couple of CDs worth of music if compressed to MP3 or Ogg on one. Their problem was they wouldn't work in a slot-based CD player, like in a car where they would have been incredibly handy (car MP3 players hadn't taken off yet).
Of course, I stopped using them after Somy rooted my computer when my daughter played a music CD in it. I'm not stupid enough to buy computer gear from a company that would deliberately install malware on their paying customers' machines.
You do realize that the 3.5 inch floppy came AFTER the 5 inch floppy, which came after the eight inch floppy, right? And that I didn't say a 3.5 inch floppy?
The earliest floppy disks, developed in the late 1960s, were 8 inches (200 mm) in diameter;[1] they became commercially available in 1971.[2] These disks and associated drives were produced and improved upon by IBM and other companies such as Memorex, Shugart Associates, and Burroughs Corporation.[3] The term "floppy disk" appeared in print as early as 1970,[4] and although in 1973 IBM announced its first media as "Type 1 Diskette" the industry continued to use the terms "floppy disk" or "floppy".
In 1976, Shugart Associates introduced the first 5 1â4-inch FDD. By 1978 there were more than 10 manufacturers producing such FDDs. There were competing floppy disk formats, with hard and soft sector versions and encoding schemes such as FM, MFM and GCR. The 5 1/4 inch format displaced the 8-inch one for most applications, and the hard sectored disk format disappeared. In 1984, IBM introduced the 1.2 MB dual sided floppy disk along with its AT model. IBM started using the 720 kB double density 3.5" microfloppy disk on its Convertible laptop computer and the 1.44 MB high density version with the PS/2 line in 1986. These disk drives could be added to older PC models. In 1988 IBM introduced a drive for 2.88 MB "DSED" diskettes in its top-of-the-line PS/2 models but this was a commercial failure.
A variant on the Sony design, introduced in 1982 by a large number of manufacturers, was then rapidly adopted; by 1988 the 3 1â2-inch was outselling the 5 1â4-inch.[6]
Maybe I should say something about my lawn here... BTW, mods, you moderate an almost incorrect statement as "informative"?
Where do you guys come up with this drivel? There was never a shift to ICBMs, MAD was a multi-pronged tool involving B-52s, submarines, and ICBMs. All three had the Soviets in their crosshairs from the time they were first developed (ICBMs around 1960, the Nautalis launched and B52s operational in 1954) until the Soviet Union collapsed, after which the Strategic Air Command was disbanded. It was less than ten years between B52s and ICBMs.
Does it have the XCP trojan installed by default? Will they sell you 5 tb and take four of them back with the first "upgrade"?
No, thanks. I'd rather use floppies than buy ANYTHING from Sony. I wish everyone else would stop shoveling money at these evil people as well. I doubt there's a less trustworthy entity on the planet.
Damn, I'm going to have to RTFA. Was it a counterfeit? If so, the Thai guy was in the wrong. If not, he owned it and should be able to sell it, burn it, give it away, do any damned thing he wanted with it, any damed where he wanted to. This "only for sale in country X" bullshit pisses me off no end. Aren't we supposed to be the home of the free? WTF? I can't use my own property as I see fit?
B-52s were the atomic bomb delivery system of choice long before either of those two.
Wikipedia disagrees with you, and so does my memory of events (I was born in 1952) unless you count six years later as being "long after." I suppose when you're 20, six years is a pretty long time. The B52 and the nuclear sub were operational in 1954, the ICBM in 1960. I visited an ICBM facility when I was in the cub scouts.
"The key to success is being polite, awesome, and human".
I doubt Bill gates or Steve Ballmer are any of those three things, yet they're both incredibly successful. The true key to success is plain old fashioned dumb luck, coupled with hard work. I never met a single wealthy person who could have become wealthy without extremely good luck.
To be fair, when you're rushing to work because you're not disciplined enough to leave on time, you're endangering the lives of everyone on the highway. That's a little more important than how fast the FCC gets its requested data.
You're not just risking a fine, you're risking your life, and everyone else's. Slow the fuck down, boy.
That's a very good point. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that the Constitution Party (also on enough ballots to win the last Presidential election) would probably be for copyright reform.
I can't vote for them amy more than the asses and elephants, though, becaus eof their stance on drugs. Someone you love smokes pot and you're going to vote for someone who wants your loved ones in jail? I'll stick to the Greens and Libbies until we get a viable Pirate Party.
Your history is faulty. The Atlas A first flew on 11 June 1957. R-7A was first flown in December 1959, and declared fully operational in September 1960.
I remember visiting an ICBM facility when I was in the Cub Scouts, probably about 1960. Meanwhile, they also had submarines with nukes, and there were more B-52 than I could count when I was stationed at Beale in 1975, all loaded with nukes.
You can get a B-52 into the air a lot faster than you can launch an ICBM (no longer than it takes to drive the pilot to the plane), and once in the air it's not easy to shoot down. If a nuke hits the ICBM launcher before it launches, it's game over.
They loose hundreds of millions on every production? IIRC, they loosed 95 million on T2, and Mel Gibson loosed 65 million of his own money on Passion. What movie have they loosed hundreds of millions on?
They're not Buffs, they're BUFs. BUF is an acronym for Big Ugly Fucker. And they were loaded with nukes since they first hit the tarmac; I was stationed at a base with atomic BUFs..
Oh, so you mean that somehow the RIAA/MPAA should be concerned about the thieves (not even gonna try and mince words here)
You just did. Theft deprives someone of their property, copyright infringement does not. Shoplifting a CD is stealing music, taking a file that someone else paid for and shared is not. Rather than "mincing words" you're choosing incorrect and inflammatory terminology. When you have to resort to that, your argument is an automatic failure.
All hands on deck for an emergency board meeting to discuss how we're going to deal with "customers" who weren't paying a dime before that are not going to pay a dime in the future...
Research says that pirates are the media companies' best customers, spending far more money than non-pirates. Piracy sells media.
Which is exactly why the MAFIAA hates file sharing -- it benefits the indies. Thanks to cheap recording and the internet, musicians no longer need the RIAA labels, and neither do their customers. The RIAA has radio, indie bands do not.
The MPAA must be shaking in its boots after Star Wreck - In The Pirkinning came out. The "music industry" is no longer needed, and it won't be long before the "movie industry" suffers the same fate.
I torrent all the time. Linux distros, indie music, my own book.
Only if they're in one of the 34 states that execute people. And most corporate deaths are negligent homicide, which I don't think is a capitaol offense in any state.
The USAF had far more than they're telling anybody. There were often two dozen on the ground at Utapao, and that was only one of three SAC bases in Thailand during the Vietnam war. One took off from there, loaded with bombs, every thirty seconds for the entire time we were in that war. There were far more than a hundred at Beale when I was stationed there, and there were a lot of SAC bases.
SAC was disbanded when the Soviets collapsed. I have no idea where the B-52 are now, Google Maps doesn't show a single one now.
If nothing else the sheer complexity of an advanced brain makes the results so unpredictable that from the outside the results of it existing or not are completely indistinguishable. If free will exists at all - it exists because our brains are so damn complex that despite being predetermined their outcomes are completely unpredictable.
Is there actually such a thing a chaos, or is chaos simply something that's too complex for modern math to formulate? I'm personally skeptical that free will actually exists. As you say, there is no scientific proof that I know of, nor is the term "free will" anywhere in the Christian bible that I've seen. Not sure what the Bhudddist or Hindi texts say.
Vegans should not take any medicine, period, or they're hypocrites. Me? I love steak. My PETA is "people eating tasty animals". I suspect that veganism is a form of mental illness, since (as you say), humans are omnivores.
And you're right about vegans' denial of fact -- they keep trying to convince people that meat is unhealthy, when the exact opposite is true.
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Had WWIII broken out and I and guys like me not been there you'd never have been born, son. Do you bitch about the week the combat soldiers sit in the field, bored out of their minds, between firefights? I was keeping your parents safe, moron, just as I was when driving a tractor on the flightline, hauling shit to the planes. Do you have any fucking idea how hard it was to hook a pintle hook to some of thet gear? Some of it was so heavy I didn't pull it to the tractor, I pulled the tractor to it. BY HAND.
Fuck off and die, anonymous asshole.
It was thirty five years ago. Those planes aren't there any more. The cold war ended twenty years ago, and the cold war was the only reason for those secrets to be secret. IT DOESN'T MATTER TODAY.
Hell, I used to not even mention Beale's name, damned near everything was top secret. But once the Soviets collapsed, the cold war ended and SAC was disbanded, it no longer mattered.
And, no one needs to know how fast she really traveled during missions or how high she really flew ...
Well, that is one of many things I won't talk about. Especially how high the ceiling was. But the number of blackbirds at Beale a third of a century ago is irrelavent today.
I'm pretty sure NASA is still using blackbirds, saw something about it on NOVA a few years ago.
love the BUF, she's still flying, and whine all you want about something better, she does her job! understand the job then you'll understand the platform
It isn't me whining for something new, it's the kids who think everything new is always better than everything old. The BUFs are still useful and used.
You would never have heard of either of them if a) both of Gates' parents were IBM lawyers and b) the other guy... Nolan Bushnell? Can't remember, but another guy who was offered the OS contract got tired of IBM's arrogant BS and walked away from a fortune, only to have Gates and Allen get it.
Hmmm, learn something new every day. Not much use any more, though, since we have thumb drives.
software that has also had fixes and service packs applied does NOT run on 11 year old machines
It sounds to me like Microsoft should hire some Linux programmers to work on their OSes then, the guys they have now must be barely competent at what they do. When I first got XP I think I was running 64 megs. Talk about bloat!
I'm running kubuntu 11.10 on an old machine right now. Its maximum memory is a gig, I have 750 meg in it. It runs videos streamed from the net without stuttering, all while doing other useful work.
I'm not sure how big a hard drive I can put in it, it was nonfunctional when it was given to me, with a trashed hard drive and the CPU fan had come unplugged. I stuck an old 80 gig in it, will probably need to get a bare bones box when I fill that drive (I'm using my other computer for most storage). When I do, that one will be used to sample audio from the newer computer. 7 whole legal CDs a week for free every Sunday night at KSHE. Still very useful.
They really screwed up with the minidisk; the nice thing about them was that they would fit in a shirt pocket, and they held (iirc) 250 mb, which is 250 floppies worth of data in the same sized medium as a floppy. You could easily fit a couple of CDs worth of music if compressed to MP3 or Ogg on one. Their problem was they wouldn't work in a slot-based CD player, like in a car where they would have been incredibly handy (car MP3 players hadn't taken off yet).
Of course, I stopped using them after Somy rooted my computer when my daughter played a music CD in it. I'm not stupid enough to buy computer gear from a company that would deliberately install malware on their paying customers' machines.
As long as it's not defending against a phantom menace it should work ok.
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Buying computer hardware from a company that has deliberately installed malware on their paying customers' computers is brain-dead stupid.
You do realize that the 3.5 inch floppy came AFTER the 5 inch floppy, which came after the eight inch floppy, right? And that I didn't say a 3.5 inch floppy?
Maybe I should say something about my lawn here... BTW, mods, you moderate an almost incorrect statement as "informative"?
Where do you guys come up with this drivel? There was never a shift to ICBMs, MAD was a multi-pronged tool involving B-52s, submarines, and ICBMs. All three had the Soviets in their crosshairs from the time they were first developed (ICBMs around 1960, the Nautalis launched and B52s operational in 1954) until the Soviet Union collapsed, after which the Strategic Air Command was disbanded. It was less than ten years between B52s and ICBMs.
You're not only redundant, you're wrong.
Does it have the XCP trojan installed by default? Will they sell you 5 tb and take four of them back with the first "upgrade"?
No, thanks. I'd rather use floppies than buy ANYTHING from Sony. I wish everyone else would stop shoveling money at these evil people as well. I doubt there's a less trustworthy entity on the planet.
Damn, I'm going to have to RTFA. Was it a counterfeit? If so, the Thai guy was in the wrong. If not, he owned it and should be able to sell it, burn it, give it away, do any damned thing he wanted with it, any damed where he wanted to. This "only for sale in country X" bullshit pisses me off no end. Aren't we supposed to be the home of the free? WTF? I can't use my own property as I see fit?
B-52s were the atomic bomb delivery system of choice long before either of those two.
Wikipedia disagrees with you, and so does my memory of events (I was born in 1952) unless you count six years later as being "long after." I suppose when you're 20, six years is a pretty long time. The B52 and the nuclear sub were operational in 1954, the ICBM in 1960. I visited an ICBM facility when I was in the cub scouts.
Seconded! I never heard of him before, why do people automatically assume that just because they know something, everyone else must, too?
"The key to success is being polite, awesome, and human".
I doubt Bill gates or Steve Ballmer are any of those three things, yet they're both incredibly successful. The true key to success is plain old fashioned dumb luck, coupled with hard work. I never met a single wealthy person who could have become wealthy without extremely good luck.
The "self-made man" is a myth.
To be fair, when you're rushing to work because you're not disciplined enough to leave on time, you're endangering the lives of everyone on the highway. That's a little more important than how fast the FCC gets its requested data.
You're not just risking a fine, you're risking your life, and everyone else's. Slow the fuck down, boy.
That's a very good point. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that the Constitution Party (also on enough ballots to win the last Presidential election) would probably be for copyright reform.
I can't vote for them amy more than the asses and elephants, though, becaus eof their stance on drugs. Someone you love smokes pot and you're going to vote for someone who wants your loved ones in jail? I'll stick to the Greens and Libbies until we get a viable Pirate Party.
Your history is faulty. The Atlas A first flew on 11 June 1957. R-7A was first flown in December 1959, and declared fully operational in September 1960.
I remember visiting an ICBM facility when I was in the Cub Scouts, probably about 1960. Meanwhile, they also had submarines with nukes, and there were more B-52 than I could count when I was stationed at Beale in 1975, all loaded with nukes.
You can get a B-52 into the air a lot faster than you can launch an ICBM (no longer than it takes to drive the pilot to the plane), and once in the air it's not easy to shoot down. If a nuke hits the ICBM launcher before it launches, it's game over.
The B52 was one part of a multi-pronged approach.
...and they have the chutspa (sp?) to call the pirates "thieves"!
They loose hundreds of millions on every production? IIRC, they loosed 95 million on T2, and Mel Gibson loosed 65 million of his own money on Passion. What movie have they loosed hundreds of millions on?
They're not Buffs, they're BUFs. BUF is an acronym for Big Ugly Fucker. And they were loaded with nukes since they first hit the tarmac; I was stationed at a base with atomic BUFs..
Oh, so you mean that somehow the RIAA/MPAA should be concerned about the thieves (not even gonna try and mince words here)
You just did. Theft deprives someone of their property, copyright infringement does not. Shoplifting a CD is stealing music, taking a file that someone else paid for and shared is not. Rather than "mincing words" you're choosing incorrect and inflammatory terminology. When you have to resort to that, your argument is an automatic failure.
All hands on deck for an emergency board meeting to discuss how we're going to deal with "customers" who weren't paying a dime before that are not going to pay a dime in the future...
Research says that pirates are the media companies' best customers, spending far more money than non-pirates. Piracy sells media.
Which is exactly why the MAFIAA hates file sharing -- it benefits the indies. Thanks to cheap recording and the internet, musicians no longer need the RIAA labels, and neither do their customers. The RIAA has radio, indie bands do not.
The MPAA must be shaking in its boots after Star Wreck - In The Pirkinning came out. The "music industry" is no longer needed, and it won't be long before the "movie industry" suffers the same fate.
I torrent all the time. Linux distros, indie music, my own book.
Get a clue.
Only if they're in one of the 34 states that execute people. And most corporate deaths are negligent homicide, which I don't think is a capitaol offense in any state.
The USAF had far more than they're telling anybody. There were often two dozen on the ground at Utapao, and that was only one of three SAC bases in Thailand during the Vietnam war. One took off from there, loaded with bombs, every thirty seconds for the entire time we were in that war. There were far more than a hundred at Beale when I was stationed there, and there were a lot of SAC bases.
SAC was disbanded when the Soviets collapsed. I have no idea where the B-52 are now, Google Maps doesn't show a single one now.
If nothing else the sheer complexity of an advanced brain makes the results so unpredictable that from the outside the results of it existing or not are completely indistinguishable. If free will exists at all - it exists because our brains are so damn complex that despite being predetermined their outcomes are completely unpredictable.
Is there actually such a thing a chaos, or is chaos simply something that's too complex for modern math to formulate? I'm personally skeptical that free will actually exists. As you say, there is no scientific proof that I know of, nor is the term "free will" anywhere in the Christian bible that I've seen. Not sure what the Bhudddist or Hindi texts say.
Vegans should not take any medicine, period, or they're hypocrites. Me? I love steak. My PETA is "people eating tasty animals". I suspect that veganism is a form of mental illness, since (as you say), humans are omnivores.
And you're right about vegans' denial of fact -- they keep trying to convince people that meat is unhealthy, when the exact opposite is true.