It is true that doing so would not be a small undertaking (and if it ends up being as such, then for the love of god don't put it on the Internet if there's anything important being managed with such a system). However, one would assume that creating even a half decent system for CMS (whether it be content management, customer management, or any other sort of information gathering and organizing) would not be something you would accomplish in the run of a month (certainly not by oneself).
As for the huge user base and tools argument... I fail to see how that would be a bonus as opposed to building a system yourself. Who else would know how to set up such a system than the person who builds it?
And to finish, I will agree with your last few points. It takes a sizable team (or a single uber nerd) to be able to perform all of those things mentioned efficiently. And then let's not forget about the UI and the fact that most developers (myself included) have no talent whatsoever for end-user usability or aesthetics.
Actually, I'm rather familiar with a Java applet based CMS (the product in question is called Opera and it's used by various hotel chains). And from my experience with it I can understand why many would not want to use Java on the client side for CMS; it's frickin' slow.
... Make something from scratch? I can understand the usefulness of something done for you with documentation (though the poster said open source so we can somewhat scratch the documentation part out). But with CMS, I would think it'd be much more efficient to build the system to your needs, as opposed to tweaking something already out there.
Actually, they probably will concede and refund him to bring the charge down to the $0.72 he would of been charged had he been quoted correctly.
When an advertisement, pricing sticker, signage, or representative quotes one price but the product actually rings up as something else, more often than not (this meaning I've never seen one of the nots) the store will give the sticker price (even if it's not for that product!)
An example: A friend of mine went to a FutureShop to purchase a set of computer speakers and say the pricetag directly below the box said $67.00. When she went to buy it it showed the speakers cost well over $100. After showing the rep the sticker price and how it was misleading, she received the expensive equipment for the advertised rate.
This also happens in grocery stores when an item scans differently. Most stores will own their mistakes, but they have to be made to realize there was indeed a mistake. I pity this guy, I would of immediately asked when I would be seeing my credit for ~$72.
Actually, for the most part there had been a decent amount of female students in Comp.Sci. classes. However, it's seemed to decline a bit more recently. Whereas a couple years ago (I believe it was about five or six) the local college had an almost 50/50 ratio of men to women in the Computer Programming Technology/Analyst course. This past year there where no females whatsoever.
... is what I've been using for a while now when I want decent video and sound. I primarily use MSN Live for chat, but find that the video features have a tendency to lag alot, and get blurry so you tend to miss facial expressions. AIM is a good deal faster, but tends to be flakey.
Eyeball Chat runs quickly and there seems to be hardly any noticible lack of sync between audio and video.
I agree wholeheartidly with your point on Nintendo's previous prices (which is one of the reasons I think Nintendo will probably be top dog this run around the block), it still doesn't change the fact that people are complaining about Sony's pricing, but convieniently forgetting their prior systems.
I don't disagree that the PS3 is going to cost alot of money ($600 is alot for a system, no matter what you compare it to). I just find it funny how people forget the last two Playstations also came out excesivly expensive.
As a note: My quoted rough figures are also in CAD, which may of meant something back when those systems came out, but not anymore.
I'd just like to point out for you all the previous prices for Sony consoles:
PS2 release -> $600
Yeah, you remember when it first came out right? $600, system only, one controller, no memory card. Games were a good $60 a pop, and so was the frickin' memory card!
Oh, here's the fun one...
PSX original release, only in Sony Stores -> $600
I like that myself. I just love how no one remembers the fact that *all* of the Playstations in the past (save PSP, but that thing doesn't count anyway, it's a glorified portible DVD player) have been in the neighbourhood of $600.
I can also remember a few PS2 games in recent memory that cost roughly $70 (well, $69.99 + tax). I don't see why people complain about the price.
Personally, I'll wait until the second batch so they catch any exploders.
Simple, because both Vista and the X360 will be using the XNA framework and C#. With those in place, the game you write for Vista can be run on the X360 without any changes due to the use of the abstraction provided by XNA and.NET. The only possible downside to having to use those technologies might be the slight loss of performance due to the virtual machine, but I doubt it'll be noticible, especially on the X360 where Microsoft is 100% assured of what they're compiling to.
Judging from the sounds of things, you would be downloading it even if you're just idling. It's just giving you the option of playing while you download, so you don't have to sit and wait for it to go. I'd liken it to watch a streaming video on a website, only you get to keep it once it's finished streaming.
I guess you haven't noticed the trend on releasing consoles at a loss, huh? Also, I distinctly remember a certain console coming out for over $600 a while back, that was the PSX. Heck, I think a couple of the flops sold for even more than that.
PS3 will probably be somewhere in the pricerange of the XBox, if not a bit lower, for the sole reason of getting more units out. Sony doesn't care if they run at a loss for the first quarter/year. They'll make it back in spades afterwards.
In fac, you found one. This is sound advice for someone with so bleak an outlook on everything. You poor soul.
Cry your emo tears in the bathtub, it'll cost less.
I agree with the parent to an extent, but also the other post stating not to get a standard CS student. Get someone from an Analyst course/option. They're being trained to design a working project that can be used well into the future. They'll do it cheap to for all the same reasons stated earlier.
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It is true that doing so would not be a small undertaking (and if it ends up being as such, then for the love of god don't put it on the Internet if there's anything important being managed with such a system). However, one would assume that creating even a half decent system for CMS (whether it be content management, customer management, or any other sort of information gathering and organizing) would not be something you would accomplish in the run of a month (certainly not by oneself).
As for the huge user base and tools argument... I fail to see how that would be a bonus as opposed to building a system yourself. Who else would know how to set up such a system than the person who builds it?
And to finish, I will agree with your last few points. It takes a sizable team (or a single uber nerd) to be able to perform all of those things mentioned efficiently. And then let's not forget about the UI and the fact that most developers (myself included) have no talent whatsoever for end-user usability or aesthetics.
Actually, I'm rather familiar with a Java applet based CMS (the product in question is called Opera and it's used by various hotel chains). And from my experience with it I can understand why many would not want to use Java on the client side for CMS; it's frickin' slow.
... Make something from scratch? I can understand the usefulness of something done for you with documentation (though the poster said open source so we can somewhat scratch the documentation part out). But with CMS, I would think it'd be much more efficient to build the system to your needs, as opposed to tweaking something already out there.
Actually, they probably will concede and refund him to bring the charge down to the $0.72 he would of been charged had he been quoted correctly.
When an advertisement, pricing sticker, signage, or representative quotes one price but the product actually rings up as something else, more often than not (this meaning I've never seen one of the nots) the store will give the sticker price (even if it's not for that product!)
An example:
A friend of mine went to a FutureShop to purchase a set of computer speakers and say the pricetag directly below the box said $67.00. When she went to buy it it showed the speakers cost well over $100. After showing the rep the sticker price and how it was misleading, she received the expensive equipment for the advertised rate.
This also happens in grocery stores when an item scans differently. Most stores will own their mistakes, but they have to be made to realize there was indeed a mistake. I pity this guy, I would of immediately asked when I would be seeing my credit for ~$72.
Actually, for the most part there had been a decent amount of female students in Comp.Sci. classes. However, it's seemed to decline a bit more recently. Whereas a couple years ago (I believe it was about five or six) the local college had an almost 50/50 ratio of men to women in the Computer Programming Technology/Analyst course. This past year there where no females whatsoever.
... is what I've been using for a while now when I want decent video and sound. I primarily use MSN Live for chat, but find that the video features have a tendency to lag alot, and get blurry so you tend to miss facial expressions. AIM is a good deal faster, but tends to be flakey.
Eyeball Chat runs quickly and there seems to be hardly any noticible lack of sync between audio and video.
I agree wholeheartidly with your point on Nintendo's previous prices (which is one of the reasons I think Nintendo will probably be top dog this run around the block), it still doesn't change the fact that people are complaining about Sony's pricing, but convieniently forgetting their prior systems. I don't disagree that the PS3 is going to cost alot of money ($600 is alot for a system, no matter what you compare it to). I just find it funny how people forget the last two Playstations also came out excesivly expensive. As a note: My quoted rough figures are also in CAD, which may of meant something back when those systems came out, but not anymore.
I'd just like to point out for you all the previous prices for Sony consoles: PS2 release -> $600 Yeah, you remember when it first came out right? $600, system only, one controller, no memory card. Games were a good $60 a pop, and so was the frickin' memory card! Oh, here's the fun one... PSX original release, only in Sony Stores -> $600 I like that myself. I just love how no one remembers the fact that *all* of the Playstations in the past (save PSP, but that thing doesn't count anyway, it's a glorified portible DVD player) have been in the neighbourhood of $600. I can also remember a few PS2 games in recent memory that cost roughly $70 (well, $69.99 + tax). I don't see why people complain about the price. Personally, I'll wait until the second batch so they catch any exploders.
New Brunswick is the same way. I think it's pretty similar across Canada.
Simple, because both Vista and the X360 will be using the XNA framework and C#. With those in place, the game you write for Vista can be run on the X360 without any changes due to the use of the abstraction provided by XNA and .NET. The only possible downside to having to use those technologies might be the slight loss of performance due to the virtual machine, but I doubt it'll be noticible, especially on the X360 where Microsoft is 100% assured of what they're compiling to.
Judging from the sounds of things, you would be downloading it even if you're just idling. It's just giving you the option of playing while you download, so you don't have to sit and wait for it to go. I'd liken it to watch a streaming video on a website, only you get to keep it once it's finished streaming.
Have fun playing D&D by yourself. Let me know when it gets published.
I guess you haven't noticed the trend on releasing consoles at a loss, huh? Also, I distinctly remember a certain console coming out for over $600 a while back, that was the PSX. Heck, I think a couple of the flops sold for even more than that. PS3 will probably be somewhere in the pricerange of the XBox, if not a bit lower, for the sole reason of getting more units out. Sony doesn't care if they run at a loss for the first quarter/year. They'll make it back in spades afterwards.
In fac, you found one. This is sound advice for someone with so bleak an outlook on everything. You poor soul. Cry your emo tears in the bathtub, it'll cost less.
I agree with the parent to an extent, but also the other post stating not to get a standard CS student. Get someone from an Analyst course/option. They're being trained to design a working project that can be used well into the future. They'll do it cheap to for all the same reasons stated earlier.