The Portland city council was going to pass a "sit-lie" ordinance, which I think would charge you with tresspassing just for standing on the sidewalk even. They wanted to use it not only against homeless, but also against political protesters etc.
They never voted on it. There was a lot of negative public comment. But a little later the mayor decided that existing law already supported such a concept, and she initiated a change in police policy.
It was a little more lienent. It gave you permission to stay in a location for 6 hours or something. Soon after this some people planned a demonstration for an entire weekend that would move every couple hours or so.
So in Portland we are still resisting the idea that undesireables don't have a right to exist, or at least be on the street.
I remember hearing a quote from Bill O'Reilly from when he visited Portland that he was shocked that we allowed homeless people to be visible. I guess we should be moving them to camps. Happy camps.:) That would take care of the problem.
Of course the law also says they don't have to tell you they've gone through your records, and it has penalties to imprison anyone who does tell you.
I've heard people say that there are no credible challenges to the "PATRIOT" Act. Maybe that's because most of the people this has been abused against are forbidden from being told by someone else, or talking to anyone if they know themselves.
How are we supposed to challenge the constitutionality of this if we can't even talk about our being investigated under provisions of the law that we wish to challenge?
Maybe the solution to the 419 scam is to flood the market with counterfeit Nigerian money. No, that doesn't make any sense. It would just make them more desperate for US Dollars.....
But maybe you could just create a fake picture of piles of money to send back to the people who spam us saying "No thanks, I already got millions in cold hard cash." Even fake videos. Or just use the pictues/videos that the Nigerian scammers send to marks back to them?
um.... never mind. I don't know what I was thinking.
why such a story is posted when this is self-evident than someone is going to refute the very content of the story ?
Common sense isn't all that common, and understanding of statistics even less so. Sure, we know the statistics of the mainstream media, let alone the RIAA puppets, is a joke, but what about "regular people."
Then again, even if the "regular people" believe this statistic, what good would it do the RIAA? Well, it might put more of the fear of lawsuits into them. My girlfriend worries that I might get sued, even though it is about the same odds as winning the lottery and I don't share RIAA music. Maybe the RIAA is hoping for a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It seems futile to refute RIAA propaganda, but as they say, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Or is it just meant to allow us to put some more sarcasms to the RIAA ? I still wonder.
Sarcasm of the RIAA can be entertaining. Articles about the RIAA attract readers.
Seriously... what would happen if everyone here went rogue, said "fuck it", and just actively blew away spammers (online, mind you, we don't need any gun-toting geeks for the love of god)?
Spammers aren't just evil for selling addresses, they are evil for making up about 3/4 of the ones that they do sell, and anyone who buys a CD with email addresses on it should be aware of that.
Would they be more or less evil if 100% of the email addresses they sold were bogus?
The reference to RIAA is not about their use of encryption in the form of DRM.
When I read the/. headline, I thought it was saying that the RIAA has come out with a combination cryptography and spyware. That is to say, the RIAA was promoting cryptography that like the government and clipper, they would be able to override.
In this context....
Note, of course, that the RIAA companies are the types whose security has been foiled by such stunning feats of ingenuity as writing on a CD with a magic marker
Would mean that people adopting such software would neither have privacy, but that the spyware portion could probably be broken too.
Then I bothered to read the actual article (What a concept.) and discovered that what the article is really about is that because of RIAA lawsuits, the majority of the internet community has become concerned about real privacy. So the RIAA isn't providing software but motivation for privacy.
Goes to show it pays to actually RTFA.
But now that the Federal Appeals Court has ruled that the RIAA cannot compel ISPs to name their customers, this might be a moot point.
Which is more discreet? A flock of HUGE FUCKING EAGLES, or two little Hobbits sneaking into Mordor and dumping it into Mount Doom? How could Gandalf do that when he died fighting the Balrog in Moria? He was nowhere near Frodo by the time he returned. Next.
I think Radagast would have been better for getting help from the Eagles.
OK, here's a plan. You get most of the BIG EAGLES to fly around Barad-dur. Their going "Caw! Caw! (or whatever noise Eagles make) Hey Sauron! Look outside! We're not only flying in your airspace, but we're FUCKING in your airspace! Caw! Caw! Caw!"
Meanwhile, the one eagle that isn't fucking in mid-air is flying Frodo to Orodruin. Drops the ring along with the stupid hobit into the volcano.
It would make a lot more sense that to have a troop of eagles fucking in mid-air on a path to Orodruin.
No, I guess the censors wouldn't have let him get away with that in the 1950s.
OK, Why didn't they just take the ring to the Grey Havens, and then to Valinor, where one of the Valar could probably destroy it. I mean they created the fscking world, you think they could destroy a ring that was made by one of the Maiar.
Oh yea, it wouldn't be a very interesting story if they had done it that way.
(Moderation -1 Very Very Silly) (I was going to post this AC but WTF.) (Note: I don't normally make bad puns about HUGE FUCKING EAGLES.)
As long as I'm being vulgar....
There is evidence to prove both Democrats and Republicans are lying cocksuckers. Vote independently.
I go to political demonstrations but I don't carry signs because I hate sound bite politics. Then I saw Sparky[tm] the Wonder Penguin holding a sign that said simply "Bush is a Wanker."
I suppose I could carry a sign that says that on one side and "Democrats and Republicans are lying cocksuckers." on the other side.
OK, one final silly "what if they" theory: What if they built a time machine and killed Celebrimbor before he helped Sauron, or maybe just told him, "Sauron's a bad dood. Don't help him to make the most evil ring in the entire universe OK dood. Remember the shit that went down just because your grandfather made those jewels. Find a safer hobby, like macrame. Stay out of jewelry, it has a bad history in your family."
Note to anyone thinking of looking at the pictures.... I took the risk of looking at them myself and they are safe. They are not goatse pictures or anything.
But I think the real question is, did Saddam have KaZaA lItE on his laptop?
# Either 1+1=4 or 1+1=12. # It is not the case that 1+1=4. # Therefore 1+1=12.
You are either with George W. Bush, or you are with the terrorists. (Many of whom were directly supported by multiple members of GWB's administration durring the 1980s)
Sorry, I'm not with GWB or the terrorists. They are all assholes.
Bush comes out on top because he was in favor of having one less dictator than you and willing to act on it.
Funny how his father was unwilling to act on it back in 1991. The infrastructure of Iraq was already destroyed. Saddam's troops were not loyal to him. You would almost think that politicians supported dictators who rule with an Iron Fist.
Not to mention, Saddam was a bad guy long before he invaded Kuwait. The radical-left and others were against Saddam long before he offically became the enemy of the United States. Just listen to the song VX Gas Attack by Skinny Puppy, released in 1988.
"The War is illegal because it was never declared."
The war is as legal as the war in 1991, because it is the same war. It was a new battle, but the same war.
The war was not declared in 1991 either. And I think we should have declared war in 1991. As the one armed man on the Simpson's says, "That way anything you do is nice and legal."
I also think that it was criminal for the US to liberate Kuwait, bomb Iraq back to the stone age, and not liberate Iraq from Saddam at the same time. But as Thomas Friedman said, our politicians wanted a dictator in Iraq who would rule with an Iron Fist. Even though he was officially our enemy, he fit the bill of Dictator with an Iron Fist. That's why he was left in power. The best of all worlds for US Politicians, the worst of all worlds for Iraqi civilians.
Note that the lack of a declaration of war is also a complaint in the Libertarian Party Statment about Operation Iraqi Liberation.
Anyone ever wonder why our government never bothers to formally declare war anymore?
Who do you really want to buy songs from? iTunes with its coolness factor or from Wal-Mart where that stupid smiling face can show you around and shoot arrows at your song prices so that they go from 99 cents to 89 cents.
Not to mention that Wal-Mart has a reputation for selling (unlabeled) censored versions of albums in their stores.
(Another comment posted randomly through meta-moderation.)
(And because of this I have not yet RTFA, is buymusic.com owned by Wal-Mart?)
Plaid Hippopatamus Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Rotund-mammals.
I'm not sure, but google thinks Hippopatamus is spelled Hippopotamus. HTH.
I was half-tempted to enter your definition for PHASER into Acronym Finder's database. Just a mouse-click away in fact.
I wonder how long it will be until the police are bombarding protestors with billions and billions of plaid Hippopotami. At least we wouldn't have to worry about alien invasions anymore. They would steer clear of our planet after our development of Hippopotamus technology.
"Oh, no, officer, this rocket is for humanitarian purposes only! And as a gift to all mankind, I've posted the plans online so that other humanitarians can build rockets of their own! What could be wrong with that?"
It would probably be easier to explain it as being for religious purposes.
Question about Paypall. Can I go to Western Union, The UPS Store, or the Paypall store or whatever and create a paypall account with cash, and without giving them my personal information?
In an interview with a spammer, the spammer said that he had opened accounts with ISPs with anonymous pre-paid credit cards that you could purchase at convenience stores. This is an evil use but if they are still around it would be a good way to anonymously subscribe to online services like slashdot, where you trust them to have your IP address and opinions, but would rather they didn't know your name.
Anyone know if either of these options would work?
but will not allow private parties to sue spammers
Just to be sure, and because I'm too lazy right not to read through the legalese.... does the law explicitly prohibit private parties from suing spammers?
And then, what about state laws, I already read a comment that quoted: "This Act supersedes any stat-ute, regulation, or rule of a State or political subdivision of a State that expressly regulates the use of electronic mail to send commercial messages, except to the extent that any such statute, regulation, or rule prohibits falsity or deception in any portion of a commercial electronic mail message or information attached thereto."
but if an exception to this is rules that prohibits falsity or deception etc. would that mean that states could allow private parties for fraud and deception?
And how would this affect a private party from suing for a Denial of Service attack, which could be considered above and beyond "use of electronic mail"?
If this does limit spammers to using legitamite email addresses then at least I can update my procmail scripts to bounce email from entire domains that spam.
Regardless, I'm thinking of implementing a whitelist/greylist system.
And if I had a clean email address what I would do is not give out my real email address to anyone and use sneakemail to filter all my email. Even though I get a dozen spams a day, I still use sneakemail to see if anyone I do business with is giving away email addresses.
Of the official KaZaA people were able to block K++ users, would the people using K++ be able to connect to each other? In other words, would it sort of create 2 networks, one for official KaZaA users and the other for the KaZaA lite users?
(OK, I'm kinda re-itterating what you just said but I still want to ask the question.)
As you say, it might be counter-productive to block out content that Offical KaZaA users would want access to.
(OK, this seems redundant now but I still want to post this.)
Downloading mp3s for stuff I already own on vinyl
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I own a lot of vinyl. Probably around 500 lp records. I'd like to have them in digital format for ease of use. When I'm on a road trip I like to play CDs full of mp3s, so I don't have to change disks. So far I'm too lazy to hook up my turntable (and a pretty good one at that) to my computer. I probably will someday but I digress.
One of the reasons I want to do p2p stuff is to download songs that I already legally own in another format. 128kbps is OK for me. I've found some stuff, but not as much as I was expecting. (I'd like to download a lot of stuff from the old Wax Trax! catalog.)
I was also hoping to find more rare music that is impossible to buy for love or money. Unfortunately I've found that it is much easier to download top 40 crap than rare stuff.
I need to try other networks besides the Fast Track network. Anyone have advice on which networks are better for unpopular music?
(Is there a problem with your caps lock key? I noticed that the last 10 of your subject lines are in all caps.)
I hope there are some other triggers for this system, for example: Sending more than 20 email in 10 minutes The first time you log on to a new account would probably be more suspicious.
Or for the first month or two. I'm guessing a spammer would be willing to wait a week or two before sending out spam, but not to be a paying customer for multiple months before spamming.
For customers who have been using an account for over a year I would hope that they would be much more conservative before even investigating.
But for customers that are in their first month I think it would be a good thing for even more ISPs to investigate as is being proposed in this case. If spammers had to pay for an account for months before using it to spam that might make spam cost-prohibitive.
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only thing we can hope for is that they cross some MAFIA ties and get them involved. This might be the one solution that all of us are hpoing for...
Are you implying that the RIAA does not have ties of its own to the MAFIA?
The Portland city council was going to pass a "sit-lie" ordinance, which I think would charge you with tresspassing just for standing on the sidewalk even. They wanted to use it not only against homeless, but also against political protesters etc.
:) That would take care of the problem.
They never voted on it. There was a lot of negative public comment. But a little later the mayor decided that existing law already supported such a concept, and she initiated a change in police policy.
It was a little more lienent. It gave you permission to stay in a location for 6 hours or something. Soon after this some people planned a demonstration for an entire weekend that would move every couple hours or so.
So in Portland we are still resisting the idea that undesireables don't have a right to exist, or at least be on the street.
I remember hearing a quote from Bill O'Reilly from when he visited Portland that he was shocked that we allowed homeless people to be visible. I guess we should be moving them to camps. Happy camps.
I think the Weekly World News deserves more than a 3.
Without them Batboy: the Musical would never have made it to the stage.
Then I look up the website and they have a blurb from the NYP: "An Instant Classic!"
Then again, the USA Today blurb says: "A Wacky, Whimsical, and Hip Tour de Force."
Does anybody actually say that? It sounds made up to me.
Of course the law also says they don't have to tell you they've gone through your records, and it has penalties to imprison anyone who does tell you.
I've heard people say that there are no credible challenges to the "PATRIOT" Act. Maybe that's because most of the people this has been abused against are forbidden from being told by someone else, or talking to anyone if they know themselves.
How are we supposed to challenge the constitutionality of this if we can't even talk about our being investigated under provisions of the law that we wish to challenge?
Maybe the solution to the 419 scam is to flood the market with counterfeit Nigerian money. No, that doesn't make any sense. It would just make them more desperate for US Dollars.....
But maybe you could just create a fake picture of piles of money to send back to the people who spam us saying "No thanks, I already got millions in cold hard cash." Even fake videos. Or just use the pictues/videos that the Nigerian scammers send to marks back to them?
um.... never mind. I don't know what I was thinking.
why such a story is posted when this is self-evident than someone is going to refute the very content of the story ?
Common sense isn't all that common, and understanding of statistics even less so. Sure, we know the statistics of the mainstream media, let alone the RIAA puppets, is a joke, but what about "regular people."
Then again, even if the "regular people" believe this statistic, what good would it do the RIAA? Well, it might put more of the fear of lawsuits into them. My girlfriend worries that I might get sued, even though it is about the same odds as winning the lottery and I don't share RIAA music. Maybe the RIAA is hoping for a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It seems futile to refute RIAA propaganda, but as they say, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Or is it just meant to allow us to put some more sarcasms to the RIAA ? I still wonder.
Sarcasm of the RIAA can be entertaining.
Articles about the RIAA attract readers.
Is this new?
Seriously... what would happen if everyone here went rogue, said "fuck it", and just actively blew away spammers (online, mind you, we don't need any gun-toting geeks for the love of god)?
What about Eric Raymond?
On second thought, guns are too subtle.
How about we attack spammers with Trebuchets?
Or fling spammers into walls with a Trebuchet?
Spammers aren't just evil for selling addresses, they are evil for making up about 3/4 of the ones that they do sell, and anyone who buys a CD with email addresses on it should be aware of that.
Would they be more or less evil if 100% of the email addresses they sold were bogus?
See Rule #3
And only after posting this do I notice the subject line. Doh!
Maybe it is the Gilbert and Sullivan I'm listening to right now messing with my head. Time to change the music.
The reference to RIAA is not about their use of encryption in the form of DRM.
/. headline, I thought it was saying that the RIAA has come out with a combination cryptography and spyware. That is to say, the RIAA was promoting cryptography that like the government and clipper, they would be able to override.
When I read the
In this context....
Note, of course, that the RIAA companies are the types whose security has been foiled by such stunning feats of ingenuity as writing on a CD with a magic marker
Would mean that people adopting such software would neither have privacy, but that the spyware portion could probably be broken too.
Then I bothered to read the actual article (What a concept.) and discovered that what the article is really about is that because of RIAA lawsuits, the majority of the internet community has become concerned about real privacy. So the RIAA isn't providing software but motivation for privacy.
Goes to show it pays to actually RTFA.
But now that the Federal Appeals Court has ruled that the RIAA cannot compel ISPs to name their customers, this might be a moot point.
Interesting article nonetheless.
Which is more discreet? A flock of HUGE FUCKING EAGLES, or two little Hobbits sneaking into Mordor and dumping it into Mount Doom?
How could Gandalf do that when he died fighting the Balrog in Moria? He was nowhere near Frodo by the time he returned. Next.
I think Radagast would have been better for getting help from the Eagles.
OK, here's a plan. You get most of the BIG EAGLES to fly around Barad-dur. Their going "Caw! Caw! (or whatever noise Eagles make) Hey Sauron! Look outside! We're not only flying in your airspace, but we're FUCKING in your airspace! Caw! Caw! Caw!"
Meanwhile, the one eagle that isn't fucking in mid-air is flying Frodo to Orodruin. Drops the ring along with the stupid hobit into the volcano.
It would make a lot more sense that to have a troop of eagles fucking in mid-air on a path to Orodruin.
No, I guess the censors wouldn't have let him get away with that in the 1950s.
OK, Why didn't they just take the ring to the Grey Havens, and then to Valinor, where one of the Valar could probably destroy it. I mean they created the fscking world, you think they could destroy a ring that was made by one of the Maiar.
Oh yea, it wouldn't be a very interesting story if they had done it that way.
(Moderation -1 Very Very Silly)
(I was going to post this AC but WTF.)
(Note: I don't normally make bad puns about HUGE FUCKING EAGLES.)
As long as I'm being vulgar....
There is evidence to prove both Democrats and Republicans are lying cocksuckers. Vote independently.
I go to political demonstrations but I don't carry signs because I hate sound bite politics. Then I saw Sparky[tm] the Wonder Penguin holding a sign that said simply "Bush is a Wanker."
I suppose I could carry a sign that says that on one side and "Democrats and Republicans are lying cocksuckers." on the other side.
OK, one final silly "what if they" theory:
What if they built a time machine and killed Celebrimbor before he helped Sauron, or maybe just told him, "Sauron's a bad dood. Don't help him to make the most evil ring in the entire universe OK dood. Remember the shit that went down just because your grandfather made those jewels. Find a safer hobby, like macrame. Stay out of jewelry, it has a bad history in your family."
At least one already has. For Windoze anyway....
I've been planning on using linux tools to do this kinda stuff but, $12 is a pretty good price, if for whatever reason I wanted to do this in Windoze.
Have you tried this product? Is it good?
Note to anyone thinking of looking at the pictures....
I took the risk of looking at them myself and they are safe.
They are not goatse pictures or anything.
But I think the real question is, did Saddam have KaZaA lItE on his laptop?
You cannot be anti-invasion and anti-Saddam
Description of False Dilemma
# Either 1+1=4 or 1+1=12.
# It is not the case that 1+1=4.
# Therefore 1+1=12.
You are either with George W. Bush, or you are with the terrorists.
(Many of whom were directly supported by multiple members of GWB's administration durring the 1980s)
Sorry, I'm not with GWB or the terrorists. They are all assholes.
Bush comes out on top because he was in favor of having one less dictator than you and willing to act on it.
Funny how his father was unwilling to act on it back in 1991. The infrastructure of Iraq was already destroyed. Saddam's troops were not loyal to him. You would almost think that politicians supported dictators who rule with an Iron Fist.
Not to mention, Saddam was a bad guy long before he invaded Kuwait. The radical-left and others were against Saddam long before he offically became the enemy of the United States. Just listen to the song VX Gas Attack by Skinny Puppy, released in 1988.
"The War is illegal because it was never declared."
The war is as legal as the war in 1991, because it is the same war. It was a new battle, but the same war.
The war was not declared in 1991 either.
And I think we should have declared war in 1991.
As the one armed man on the Simpson's says, "That way anything you do is nice and legal."
I also think that it was criminal for the US to liberate Kuwait, bomb Iraq back to the stone age, and not liberate Iraq from Saddam at the same time. But as Thomas Friedman said, our politicians wanted a dictator in Iraq who would rule with an Iron Fist. Even though he was officially our enemy, he fit the bill of Dictator with an Iron Fist. That's why he was left in power. The best of all worlds for US Politicians, the worst of all worlds for Iraqi civilians.
Note that the lack of a declaration of war is also a complaint in the Libertarian Party Statment about Operation Iraqi Liberation.
Anyone ever wonder why our government never bothers to formally declare war anymore?
Who do you really want to buy songs from? iTunes with its coolness factor or from Wal-Mart where that stupid smiling face can show you around and shoot arrows at your song prices so that they go from 99 cents to 89 cents.
Not to mention that Wal-Mart has a reputation for selling (unlabeled) censored versions of albums in their stores.
(Another comment posted randomly through meta-moderation.)
(And because of this I have not yet RTFA, is buymusic.com owned by Wal-Mart?)
In fact, under an old contract with IBM, they own exclusive rights to CICS/MVS.
Did they gain the rights when someone at IBM clicked through a EULA?
(Posting randomly through meta-moderration.)
Plaid Hippopatamus Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Rotund-mammals.
I'm not sure, but google thinks Hippopatamus is spelled Hippopotamus. HTH.
I was half-tempted to enter your definition for PHASER into Acronym Finder's database. Just a mouse-click away in fact.
I wonder how long it will be until the police are bombarding protestors with billions and billions of plaid Hippopotami. At least we wouldn't have to worry about alien invasions anymore. They would steer clear of our planet after our development of Hippopotamus technology.
"Oh, no, officer, this rocket is for humanitarian purposes only! And as a gift to all mankind, I've posted the plans online so that other humanitarians can build rockets of their own! What could be wrong with that?"
It would probably be easier to explain it as being for religious purposes.
Just paint an Alpha and an Omega on it.
Question about Paypall.
Can I go to Western Union, The UPS Store, or the Paypall store or whatever and create a paypall account with cash, and without giving them my personal information?
In an interview with a spammer, the spammer said that he had opened accounts with ISPs with anonymous pre-paid credit cards that you could purchase at convenience stores. This is an evil use but if they are still around it would be a good way to anonymously subscribe to online services like slashdot, where you trust them to have your IP address and opinions, but would rather they didn't know your name.
Anyone know if either of these options would work?
but will not allow private parties to sue spammers
Just to be sure, and because I'm too lazy right not to read through the legalese.... does the law explicitly prohibit private parties from suing spammers?
And then, what about state laws, I already read a comment that quoted: "This Act supersedes any stat-ute, regulation, or rule of a State or political subdivision of a State that expressly regulates the use of electronic mail to send commercial messages, except to the extent that any such statute, regulation, or rule prohibits falsity or deception in any portion of a commercial electronic mail message or information attached thereto."
but if an exception to this is rules that prohibits falsity or deception etc. would that mean that states could allow private parties for fraud and deception?
And how would this affect a private party from suing for a Denial of Service attack, which could be considered above and beyond "use of electronic mail"?
If this does limit spammers to using legitamite email addresses then at least I can update my procmail scripts to bounce email from entire domains that spam.
Regardless, I'm thinking of implementing a whitelist/greylist system.
And if I had a clean email address what I would do is not give out my real email address to anyone and use sneakemail to filter all my email. Even though I get a dozen spams a day, I still use sneakemail to see if anyone I do business with is giving away email addresses.
Of the official KaZaA people were able to block K++ users, would the people using K++ be able to connect to each other? In other words, would it sort of create 2 networks, one for official KaZaA users and the other for the KaZaA lite users?
(OK, I'm kinda re-itterating what you just said but I still want to ask the question.)
As you say, it might be counter-productive to block out content that Offical KaZaA users would want access to.
(OK, this seems redundant now but I still want to post this.)
I own a lot of vinyl. Probably around 500 lp records. I'd like to have them in digital format for ease of use. When I'm on a road trip I like to play CDs full of mp3s, so I don't have to change disks. So far I'm too lazy to hook up my turntable (and a pretty good one at that) to my computer. I probably will someday but I digress.
One of the reasons I want to do p2p stuff is to download songs that I already legally own in another format. 128kbps is OK for me. I've found some stuff, but not as much as I was expecting. (I'd like to download a lot of stuff from the old Wax Trax! catalog.)
I was also hoping to find more rare music that is impossible to buy for love or money. Unfortunately I've found that it is much easier to download top 40 crap than rare stuff.
I need to try other networks besides the Fast Track network. Anyone have advice on which networks are better for unpopular music?
(Is there a problem with your caps lock key? I noticed that the last 10 of your subject lines are in all caps.)
I hope there are some other triggers for this system, for example: Sending more than 20 email in 10 minutes The first time you log on to a new account would probably be more suspicious.
Or for the first month or two. I'm guessing a spammer would be willing to wait a week or two before sending out spam, but not to be a paying customer for multiple months before spamming.
For customers who have been using an account for over a year I would hope that they would be much more conservative before even investigating.
But for customers that are in their first month I think it would be a good thing for even more ISPs to investigate as is being proposed in this case. If spammers had to pay for an account for months before using it to spam that might make spam cost-prohibitive.
I used to live in an apartment next to a schizophrenic guy. He left his dirty clothes scattered all over his apartment.
Is having dirty clothes scattered all over your house a sign of schizophrenia? Is seeing faces in them schizophrenia?
Or is the real question not the dirty laundry, or the seeing of faces, but the believing the faces are real and wacking your laundry.
Then again, some people's laundry does need to be wacked.
Is that the way I say that? I dunno how to say it.