That is how it should be read I think. To start 200 instances of your Java proggie you pretty much did the same thing as starting 200 threads in single virtual machine. These threads show in ps output as operating system processes and they map entire address space of virtual machine which is why their sizes are identical.
Memory usage of Java actually scales very nicely with silly number of threads. A couple of months ago I created a small server which opened lots of listener sockets in their own threads.
With one thread the size of the virtual machine about 40 megs which pretty much for a simple application but when I created more server threads the amount of added memory was very small. With 100 listener threads it was like 60 megs, with 400 it was 80 megs and finally with 3000 server threads the amount of used memory was only 290megs! It is true that these threads were not actually doing anyting except listening on their sockets but I thing it is very impressive nevertheless.
It is a well known fact that you are a xbox fanboy and/or astroturf, but touting Live in this context???
These games are supposed to played in with friends in the same room, with lots of beer. Who the hell would like to play fighting games on internet anyway?
"But, but XBox 360 can do that too!!". I know, I know.
WW1 was not the first, nor would it have been the last war fought in Europe.
Of course not, europe has been in a state of war since the end of the last ice age. What made WW1 siginificant that US intervention changed the end result to something else than a stalemate (whis was the end result of most conflicts in europe before that). Balance of power you see. "The war that ends all wars" was not the kind of futile bloodfest that it could and should have been. Because of (probably well meaning) US intervention, other side won quite handsomely and that sow the seeds for much larger destruction later on.
Those "big bully" -references are mostly reactions to US actions in 1950's and onwards. I wouldn't call them well meaning at all. Imperialistic, vicious and murderous are words that come to mind to describe them.
"America should have minded her own business and stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917. Had we made peace then there would have been no collapse in Russia followed by Communism, no breakdown in Italy followed by Fascism, and Germany would not have signed the Versailles Treaty, which has enthroned Nazism in Germany. If America had stayed out of the war, all these 'isms' wouldn't today be sweeping the continent of Europe and breaking down parliamentary government - and if England had made peace early in 1917, it would have saved over one million British, French, American, and other lives."
Well I'm not sure whether they are corrupt or just monumentally stupid. Anyhow, there is European Anti-Software Patent Bribe Pledge Drive running at the wery moment. An interesting approach indeed, at the very least it could raise some eyebrows if enough money is pledged so consider donating. I've done my share.
When the president of the Country puts the most famous, richest person in the country into a prison cell for basically just that - being rich and thus dangerous (well Hodorkovskiy sort of was aiming at the president's position) and the company is now going to be sold at 1/10th of the value to the buddies of the president and to those who will share some of the wealth, what the hell do you expect from the people? Respect copyrights? HA!
To be fair this same person was running a company that was being sold to westeners at 1/10 of the value in the privatization craze during early 90's. It is somewhat understandable that russians want to get their property back.
And yes, the guy may have broken the law in the process too.
Indeed, If I rememember correctly this bribe issue originates to US govt's ex-bedfellow Ahmed Chalabi who splurted it out at one point during runup for a war.
It's not factual and has been discredited but it always comes up when some fool is defending the war on public forums. I bet Fox news and CNN made huge headlines out of it.
Well since everyone is asking something in this thread I'll ask too:)
Is it possible to open link in next available tab in mozilla? You see, I may have tabs 1 and 2 reserved for browsing slashdot, 1:st tab for main level comments and 2:nd tab for comment threads. I would like to open threads to 2:nd tab just by clicking a link, not by drag & drop.
I know its possible to open a link into a new tab but I dont want that because I may have tabs 3,4,5 etc. reserved for something else.
Well the numbers are not necessarily that outlandish. Of course there are many many instances where people download same SDK for different machines and different jobs even. In this case numbers are misleading of course.
But on the other hand system administrators in bigger organizations tend to download the SDK to some network drive and point that location to developers. This SDK is then installed in several developer machines. In this case single download means many developers.
It is very difficult to count user base for something that is freely available. Number of downloads is the best estimate Sun really has.
"This time there was evidence that might point to that direction......and this time one is able to infer from big-mouth-Darl's words that it may be Sun."
Now that is pretty weak statement eh? It may be Sun, it may be someone else, I don't care really. If it's Sun (which I strongly doubt) they deserve all the flak they can get from slashbots but until then they should be left alone I think.
About my aggressiveness: Maybe I've just grown tired of conspiracy theorists and slashbots throwing their pseudo-intelligent and baseless rants as something worthwhile. This used to be a good site years ago you know.
Sun is not my empolyer. Thing is that you just reiterated for N:th time the fact that someone has paid for SCO and after that you started speculating it might be Sun.
If you had *any* proof about this payer you post would have been interesting, now it is just genuine FUD and karmawhoring. But./ is famous of that.
I wish that too, but it will not happen, unless direct collusion can be proven. I doubt it ever will. Remember, MS has the best, most experienced legal team in the business (they need it). There is no way to prove that they gave SCO money to pursue the case, even though that is almost certainly true.
They also seem to have the most arrogant and incompetent management in business. All that is needed is an innocent admission from SCO managers that MSFT actually engouraged them to pull this stunt in some meeting and a *huge* pile of crap will hit the fan.
Cut that shit! There are terrorists because of western meddling in middle east. Period.
Not because "They are just jealous because of our prosperity" or whatever excuse happens to be popular at the moment.
Face it, countries are different, cultures are different and force feeding your own True Way will only create anger which spurs terrorism. Some people will never get it.
From what I have heard or read about these experiments is that they (robots) are equipped with neural networks and not programmed in a sense computers are programmed novadays.
Instead, in the beginning of their life cycles the robots are equipped with certain "instincts" like need to get food (electricity from electric plugs) or need to protect themselves (not colliding with walls or other robots) etc.
Then they (robots) are just left alone buzzing around and learning about their environment like animals do. Fascinating and disturbing at the same time...
From the BBC article: "IBM announced it will offer German Government offices deep discounts on computer systems based on Linux, rather than Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows operating system. "
Yes, german *parliament* will have windows desktops and linux servers, it has been done deal for quite some time. This is another story. Seems to me german government is extending its linux usage to other offices as well.
>With PC developers looking at the XBox as an opportunity to expand their marketplace - you can bet they are not going to be too eager to use OpenGL and cut themselves off from the XBox-platform.
And I bet ISV:s commited to XBox really appreciate the way MS is going to bundle their *own* games with XBox. Oh well, it's not out of my pockets.
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Thats funny, the Quake3 benchmarks I've seen were pretty much equal on M$ and Linux. On low resolutions Linux Quake was actually slightly faster. O
And besides, I think Mozilla looks real cool with the Aqua theme I downloaded. Only problem I have is that it freezes when I try to download 78,000 headers from alt.binaries.images. n high resolutions windows quake was faster (nothing dramatic though). So this is a video driver issue really.
All you need to do is to check how government manipulates the numbers... The numbers behind the lies
That is how it should be read I think. To start 200 instances of your Java proggie you pretty much did the same thing as starting 200 threads in single virtual machine. These threads show in ps output as operating system processes and they map entire address space of virtual machine which is why their sizes are identical.
Memory usage of Java actually scales very nicely with silly number of threads. A couple of months ago I created a small server which opened lots of listener sockets in their own threads.
With one thread the size of the virtual machine about 40 megs which pretty much for a simple application but when I created more server threads the amount of added memory was very small. With 100 listener threads it was like 60 megs, with 400 it was 80 megs and finally with 3000 server threads the amount of used memory was only 290megs!
It is true that these threads were not actually doing anyting except listening on their sockets but I thing it is very impressive nevertheless.
It is a well known fact that you are a xbox fanboy and/or astroturf, but touting Live in this context???
These games are supposed to played in with friends in the same room, with lots of beer. Who the hell would like to play fighting games on internet anyway?
"But, but XBox 360 can do that too!!". I know, I know.
WW1 was not the first, nor would it have been the last war fought in Europe.
Of course not, europe has been in a state of war since the end of the last ice age. What made WW1 siginificant that US intervention changed the end result to something else than a stalemate (whis was the end result of most conflicts in europe before that). Balance of power you see. "The war that ends all wars" was not the kind of futile bloodfest that it could and should have been. Because of (probably well meaning) US intervention, other side won quite handsomely and that sow the seeds for much larger destruction later on.
Those "big bully" -references are mostly reactions to US actions in 1950's and onwards. I wouldn't call them well meaning at all. Imperialistic, vicious and murderous are words that come to mind to describe them.
"America should have minded her own business and stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917. Had we made peace then there would have been no collapse in Russia followed by Communism, no breakdown in Italy followed by Fascism, and Germany would not have signed the Versailles Treaty, which has enthroned Nazism in Germany. If America had stayed out of the war, all these 'isms' wouldn't today be sweeping the continent of Europe and breaking down parliamentary government - and if England had made peace early in 1917, it would have saved over one million British, French, American, and other lives."
Sir Winston Churchill, New York Enquirer, 1936
Well I'm not sure whether they are corrupt or just monumentally stupid. Anyhow, there is European Anti-Software Patent Bribe Pledge Drive running at the wery moment. An interesting approach indeed, at the very least it could raise some eyebrows if enough money is pledged so consider donating. I've done my share.
Can they be sued for this?
Indeed, If I rememember correctly this bribe issue originates to US govt's ex-bedfellow Ahmed Chalabi who splurted it out at one point during runup for a war.
It's not factual and has been discredited but it always comes up when some fool is defending the war on public forums. I bet Fox news and CNN made huge headlines out of it.
Well since everyone is asking something in this thread I'll ask too :)
Is it possible to open link in next available tab in mozilla? You see, I may have tabs 1 and 2 reserved for browsing slashdot, 1:st tab for main level comments and 2:nd tab for comment threads. I would like to open threads to 2:nd tab just by clicking a link, not by drag & drop.
I know its possible to open a link into a new tab but I dont want that because I may have tabs 3,4,5 etc. reserved for something else.
Well the numbers are not necessarily that outlandish. Of course there are many many instances where people download same SDK for different machines and different jobs even. In this case numbers are misleading of course.
But on the other hand system administrators in bigger organizations tend to download the SDK to some network drive and point that location to developers. This SDK is then installed in several developer machines. In this case single download means many developers.
It is very difficult to count user base for something that is freely available. Number of downloads is the best estimate Sun really has.
"This time there was evidence that might point to that direction... ...and this time one is able to infer from big-mouth-Darl's words that it may be Sun."
Now that is pretty weak statement eh? It may be Sun, it may be someone else, I don't care really. If it's Sun (which I strongly doubt) they deserve all the flak they can get from slashbots but until then they should be left alone I think.
About my aggressiveness: Maybe I've just grown tired of conspiracy theorists and slashbots throwing their pseudo-intelligent and baseless rants as something worthwhile. This used to be a good site years ago you know.
Sun is not my empolyer. Thing is that you just reiterated for N:th time the fact that someone has paid for SCO and after that you started speculating it might be Sun.
./ is famous of that.
If you had *any* proof about this payer you post would have been interesting, now it is just genuine FUD and karmawhoring. But
modded this flamebait as interesting??
Cut that shit! There are terrorists because of western meddling in middle east. Period.
Not because "They are just jealous because of our prosperity" or whatever excuse happens to be popular at the moment.
Face it, countries are different, cultures are different and force feeding your own True Way will only create anger which spurs terrorism. Some people will never get it.
It's also an inside joke in Finland. Mr Proper is (was?) a household cleanser just like Vim :)
And this guy being ex-employee of MS could it be that he is just puffing Palladium, The Slayer of all worms and viruses, to the masses?
Clever FUD indeed.
.. in some cases. But a HUGE blow to privacy and civil rights in general. I really don't think you could convince RMS with your singin' and dancin'.
From what I have heard or read about these experiments is that they (robots) are equipped with neural networks and not programmed in a sense computers are programmed novadays.
...
Instead, in the beginning of their life cycles the robots are equipped with certain "instincts" like need to get food (electricity from electric plugs) or need to protect themselves (not colliding with walls or other robots) etc.
Then they (robots) are just left alone buzzing around and learning about their environment like animals do. Fascinating and disturbing at the same time
From the BBC article: "IBM announced it will offer German Government offices deep discounts on computer systems based on Linux, rather than Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows operating system. "
Yes, german *parliament* will have windows desktops and linux servers, it has been done deal for quite some time. This is another story. Seems to me german government is extending its linux usage to other offices as well.
Redundant maybe, interesting definittely not. Read the following article from zdnet and come to tell us that Linux does not hurt MS.
>With PC developers looking at the XBox as an opportunity to expand their marketplace - you can bet they are not going to be too eager to use OpenGL and cut themselves off from the XBox-platform.
And I bet ISV:s commited to XBox really appreciate the way MS is going to bundle their *own* games with XBox. Oh well, it's not out of my pockets.
Thats funny, the Quake3 benchmarks I've seen were pretty much equal on M$ and Linux. On low resolutions Linux Quake was actually slightly faster. O And besides, I think Mozilla looks real cool with the Aqua theme I downloaded. Only problem I have is that it freezes when I try to download 78,000 headers from alt.binaries.images. n high resolutions windows quake was faster (nothing dramatic though). So this is a video driver issue really.
You mean like aRts on Linux/Unix?