Yes! How dare they create such a violent game where the user has fun *beating* a *poor*, *defenseless* *BALL* only to be *smashed* by the opposing paddle right back at the abuser! The horror I say! Won't someone please think of the children!?...and it gets worse! The ball wasn't even round! It was *square*! Pointy edges! (end sarcasm)
Err, I misread your earlier post and thought that you were critisizing my post, that was my mistake. XD It was only after I re-read that I realized you were talking about the parent story and not my post (I missed the "news" part, dur hur. ~_~).
Anyway, to some up what I was saying, I wasn't saying stereotypes were a "good thing (tm)", just saying that overall the original poster was overreacting. Stereotypes aren't inherently racist/sexist, but like you said they definitely can be depending on their usage, making the user more at fault. I mentioned in my previous post that do to the majority of posters being men, the usage of the stereotype is quite biased in one direction. I think you got that point nailed though.
Anyway, sorry for that mixup, most of that was geared towards my thought that you were critisizing y post, not what was originally said by commander lunch foods, I thought perhaps you were the previous poster, that was my bad. Thanks for further clarifying, sorry.
Uhhhh, don't put words into our mouths. I said that it is a common stereotype followed by a large number of teenage girls. I did NOT say that every female follows these stereotypes. Before responding, please do some research on "stereotypes", and read some articles on studies about the youth of today.
"Regardless of whether it's intended as a joke or not, it is sexist, and I don't find it funny."
Fine, you don't like it, you're entitled to your opinion, I personally think they went a little overboard as well, but calling someone sexist is a very sharp comment. You're baseing your opinion solely on the fact that they were making fun of a stereotype, not the people that follow it, not the female gender, just the basic patterns and ideals that make up this common stereotype. This never has, and never did, and never will have anything to do with insulting the the female gender.
My issue is less with the colour scheme and more with news posts like this one. This is basically implying all women are stupid. If your teenage sister writes like this post, then slashdot is basically implying that all women have the mentality of a teenage girl.
If you're going to insult someone, please, please learn how to read into sentences better than you have. As far as I can see, all you're trying to do is pick out the most negative meaning you can twist my sentence to mean, and given I don't have 300 flame posts yet, perhaps you should try going through and reading it again. I wasn't implying anything larger from that sentence, I implied that it was a very real stereotype.
"and more worried about what society has done to your gender and what a majority of teenage girls of this age have become."
Okay, that sentence wasn't very clear, i'll rewrite it for you: "You should be less worried about puns against stereotypes, and more about the image that society is presenting to the teenage female gender as "beautiful" and "attractive". Many young girls will do almost anything to try and be attractive to others and fit in, guys do it too, but the extremity (sp?) of the image portrayed to young women is horrible. Every day teenage girls starve themselves to death just because they want to look pretty. They get painful and disfiguring plastic surgery just so they can try to fit in. Not only am I, in my view, not sexist, i'm quite the opposite, but I don't take such out front and offending moves as to blatently insult someone without thinking about it first.
You post about "blonde jokes" and "dumb women" jokes. I hate those kinds of jokes. I don't tell them to anyone, and i'm all frowns if they tell them to me, but I don't attack them for it. Is it really worth the argument? No. The article is right, those kinds of jokes are offensive, but this was never about being offensive to women, ever. My brother and a number of his friends use AIM speak as well, it's not just the teenage female gender that is affected by this stereotype, it affects men as well. This was meant to be a simple play on the stereotype, just like if someone was to make a joke about l33t-speak. The people that use l33t-speak are still around, but just because they use it, is that to say every single one of them is stupid? No. The jokes made here today are hardly meant to insult your gender, however do to the fact that, as you helpfully noted, the slashdot crowd is so completely made up of almost all men, the sections of the stereotype that were most opposite to us were used. I think the joke was to create a site themed to make fun of, not as much the stereotype enveloping the female youth today, but as a direct counter of the stereotype about geek men being losers and never having girlfriends, after all this is a geek news site right?
In closing, I do not like sexist jokes, I don't intend on sounding sexist, however it is people that go off on things like this that make the imaginary gap between our genders eve
Oh come on. If he actually meant to be sexist, that's one thing, but this can also very easily be a pun on the stereotypical way a large number of teenage girls actually act. Just because of this it doesn't mean he's automatically insulting all members of the female gender. If you are so arrogant to think that every event like this is an attack directly on your gender, then you need to grow up and learn to think critically. Even if he meant this event to be sexist, which I really doubt, then would he even do it on such a large scale? Do you honestly give the mods such little credit in the common sense department? Come on now.
As far as stereotypes go, this is a very real one, I have a teenage sister and friends that follow many parts of this stereotype. You should be less worried about overreacting because you didn't actually read between the lines, and more worried about what society has done to your gender and what a majority of teenage girls of this age have become.
As far as funny goes, this was meant as a joke. If he were to theme it after all of the stereotypes surrounding what "real man" is for example. There would be people for an against that as well, but that doesn't change the fact that it was done in jest. He wasn't trying to insult a gender. He was merely poking fun at a popular stereotype. If you're incapable of thinking for yourself and need to follow these stereotypes for acceptance, then that's your problem, not ours.
My gender has plenty of these stereotypes as well, but we'll leave that for when someone posts disapprovingly after the mods decide to theme slashdot after macho men, football players, etc, etc.
I'm not trying to say you follow any of these at all, merely giving you plenty of what if questions as food for though. I appologize if you take any of this negatively, but I aim to inform, not to insult.
Anyway, happy "april first", As in "april fools day".
What's that Lassy?! Timmy fell down the well?! Dear god! Someone call an excorsist, three horses, a priest, and get me a bottle of marshmallow fluff! Pronto!
I'd heard the other definition from other Slashdotters I believe (I don't remember, but hey, sounds like something they would say), but as far as considering it a word, I haven't ever considered acronyms as words myself. I've usually just thought of them as pointers to phrases (like function prototypes to functions), but I digress. Anyway, i'm off topic as it is so, thanks for pointing that out.
It's an acronym, not a word. It stands for "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt", it's a marketing term, and can also be defined as (if you really want to) "Fucked Up Disinformation" if you like that better. It's no more a word than "LOL" or "ROFL". I mean this as a correction, not a flame, so please don't take it negatively. I do however agree with the frequent overuse of the acronym.
Ah, I usually just pipe to it and thought it may follow a similar action when moving directly to a device file, my bad. Thank you for the civil answer. Glad people don't always answer with flames on slashdot.
Really? I thought leetspeak was for newbies.:P Please refrain from such dumb comments and usage of such horrible slang. However seriously, yes, you can, I know that, but I personally doubt anyone with even a thimble of sense uses that method primarily if only because it's a waste of keystrokes and time. Though to go along with your statement, perhaps it's/dev/null and pipes that should be added to the list instead. They both have multitudes of uses of which many people take for granted. (pipes don't have as much to do with this, but they are another equally underrated mechanism)
First off, please stop being such a jerk, we didn't ask for it, we didn't curse at you, and frankly I don't care for your attitude. Secondly, his response was a jest in response to your flame of open office. Do us all a favor, please don't post further until you get some anger management because flames are about as interesting to read as cereal boxes, and last I checked, cursing isn't a "cool thing".
I can understand where she's coming from, but not everyone learns the same way. Some people are quick hand note takers, and some are quicker at typing. Some people are better at organizing and utilizing hand written notes and some aren't. I for one use my laptop to take notes a lot, and to write reports, and do a large number of other things. Digital notes are easy to organize and recall at later dates, as well as search through. Forcing a student to use a pencil won't do much else than force them to sit and become a note taking zombie, it doesn't mean they'll learn more simply because you force them to take the slower method. I think she went a tad overboard at flat out banning them. The fact still stands that they did pay for the class, if they fail because they were playing solitaire all class, that's their problem, not hers, I doubt they would have gotten more out of the class if the laptops were banned to begin with given their total lack of interest. If they are interrupting the class, that's one thing, if they're disturbing you in some way that's one thing as well, but outright banning them on such personal grounds is not the way to go about it. Forcing them to learn your way will most of the time only put up road blocks, I personally wouldn't want to be the cause of someone's failure. Some of you say "well he can't take a laptop to a court", okay, and i'd like to note that this isn't a court, this is merely a school for learning, who said he was going to take a laptop to court? He's partaking in the process of becoming a lawyer (or whatever he may be trying for). When you were learning in 3rd grade and you had school paid lunches, chalkboards, supplies, and a professor, are they going to let you bring those? I somehow doubt it. Next up some said it was "interfering with the teacher", okay, how? The relatively silent typing? The jealousy of having a piece of technology he/she doesn't? Were they playing loud music? Were they distracting other students? You say "interfering", but all you seem to have here is a professors personal opinion getting in the way of her own teaching. After that someone said "teachers teach teaching". Uh...right, because people all obviously learn the same way don't they? Show me the international standard that our brains all adhere to and i'll call it a day. The most common notetaking practice is a teacher rambles on and on for an hour or so expecting you to take good notes of everything. How does any of that instigate "thinking and analyzing"? If you decide to ask questions during the note taking session, who will have more information to actually think and analyze? The people who were allowed to take notes their way? I'm not saying they should be allowed to inscribe notes on the wall in their own blood because they can do it faster (spare me the sarcasm). Or the ones struggling to keep up because you force them to conform to your ideals? Some people have been screaming "respect your professors", but you seem to forget that professors don't know everything either, just because they may know a considerable amount in their field doesn't mean an electrical engineer can tell you how to oil paint.
(P.S. Only reply if you have something meaningful to say, purposeful misinterpretation gets boring real quick.)
Heh, it was a joke, sorry I didn't make it more obvious. I just figured that the growth rate of the Halo game fanbase would work perfectly when compared to the adoption rate of iTunes. No worries.
Chances are that they're following the age old corporate habit of following completely unreliable and sometimes unrelated statistics. For example, downloads doesn't equal users (See: Browsers, Chat clients, Websites, etc), discovering more bugs doesn't make the product insecure (See: Browser and Operating system security debates.), etc. However 9 times out of 10, someone will make an outrageous claim based on these statistics, and people, not knowing better, will write articles about it. In the end it's just publicity.
Quite true, and given the number of iPod users that readily advocate it, the adoption rate is high enough i'm sure. Real...I don't have much to say about Real products. At least nothing that hasn't already been said.
I think it's a reference to the success of the XBox game Halo, and the maddening fanboys that grew up all around it. Though I suppose that could be taken rather negatively.
It's notable that in some of these cases, you aren't the one actually doing the buying. You have to go through your supervisor, which goes to his boss, which goes to his boss for permission, then checks the budget, then goes back to your supervisor, then (while miraculously not checking with you much at all) goes to another department (whoever does the purchases), which then take your boss's boss's notes, and attempts to interpret them while trying to understand everything said boss left out. You can respond to this and say "Well that's stupid" and "They don't do that", but i've seen it happen quite enough. The moral of this story? Please go to the people that know what they're doing before ordering, this may be a request in vain though. I'd rather communicate directly, or write the request myself than let my management's, management's, management write their obscure version of what I said.
(P.S. In one of said cases, the media services department wanted firewire cards, so they decided to go to the quick fix video guy that asks google for everything. He didn't even check with us to see what interfaces the new machines we were buying had, he ended up buying a PCI-X card, with Firewire 800 and USB2.0. The computers we recieved/were recieving, had USB2.0 already, and PCI-E. I had no chance to intervene at all, this took place completely without my knowledge. However, that's not the worst of it, he managed to convince management that buying a $250 PCI-X card and sticking it in a normal PCI slot, was somehow not wasteful at all, I protested, but instead they had me install the cards and forget about it. I've had to live with his quick fixes for a while now, and the budget suffers. Management never seems to trust the right people, and to top it off, he's a brown noser that drives the boss's wife places when he's busy.)
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You sound strangely like a Microsoft marketing employee trying to sell me Windows Vista actually.
Yes! How dare they create such a violent game where the user has fun *beating* a *poor*, *defenseless* *BALL* only to be *smashed* by the opposing paddle right back at the abuser! The horror I say! Won't someone please think of the children!? ...and it gets worse! The ball wasn't even round! It was *square*! Pointy edges! (end sarcasm)
...and they got it.
"Master boot record. It's what's for breakfast!"
Err, I misread your earlier post and thought that you were critisizing my post, that was my mistake. XD It was only after I re-read that I realized you were talking about the parent story and not my post (I missed the "news" part, dur hur. ~_~).
Anyway, to some up what I was saying, I wasn't saying stereotypes were a "good thing (tm)", just saying that overall the original poster was overreacting. Stereotypes aren't inherently racist/sexist, but like you said they definitely can be depending on their usage, making the user more at fault. I mentioned in my previous post that do to the majority of posters being men, the usage of the stereotype is quite biased in one direction. I think you got that point nailed though.
Anyway, sorry for that mixup, most of that was geared towards my thought that you were critisizing y post, not what was originally said by commander lunch foods, I thought perhaps you were the previous poster, that was my bad. Thanks for further clarifying, sorry.
Uhhhh, don't put words into our mouths. I said that it is a common stereotype followed by a large number of teenage girls. I did NOT say that every female follows these stereotypes. Before responding, please do some research on "stereotypes", and read some articles on studies about the youth of today.
"Regardless of whether it's intended as a joke or not, it is sexist, and I don't find it funny."
Fine, you don't like it, you're entitled to your opinion, I personally think they went a little overboard as well, but calling someone sexist is a very sharp comment. You're baseing your opinion solely on the fact that they were making fun of a stereotype, not the people that follow it, not the female gender, just the basic patterns and ideals that make up this common stereotype. This never has, and never did, and never will have anything to do with insulting the the female gender.
My issue is less with the colour scheme and more with news posts like this one. This is basically implying all women are stupid. If your teenage sister writes like this post, then slashdot is basically implying that all women have the mentality of a teenage girl.
If you're going to insult someone, please, please learn how to read into sentences better than you have. As far as I can see, all you're trying to do is pick out the most negative meaning you can twist my sentence to mean, and given I don't have 300 flame posts yet, perhaps you should try going through and reading it again. I wasn't implying anything larger from that sentence, I implied that it was a very real stereotype.
"and more worried about what society has done to your gender and what a majority of teenage girls of this age have become."
Okay, that sentence wasn't very clear, i'll rewrite it for you: "You should be less worried about puns against stereotypes, and more about the image that society is presenting to the teenage female gender as "beautiful" and "attractive". Many young girls will do almost anything to try and be attractive to others and fit in, guys do it too, but the extremity (sp?) of the image portrayed to young women is horrible. Every day teenage girls starve themselves to death just because they want to look pretty. They get painful and disfiguring plastic surgery just so they can try to fit in. Not only am I, in my view, not sexist, i'm quite the opposite, but I don't take such out front and offending moves as to blatently insult someone without thinking about it first.
You post about "blonde jokes" and "dumb women" jokes. I hate those kinds of jokes. I don't tell them to anyone, and i'm all frowns if they tell them to me, but I don't attack them for it. Is it really worth the argument? No. The article is right, those kinds of jokes are offensive, but this was never about being offensive to women, ever. My brother and a number of his friends use AIM speak as well, it's not just the teenage female gender that is affected by this stereotype, it affects men as well. This was meant to be a simple play on the stereotype, just like if someone was to make a joke about l33t-speak. The people that use l33t-speak are still around, but just because they use it, is that to say every single one of them is stupid? No. The jokes made here today are hardly meant to insult your gender, however do to the fact that, as you helpfully noted, the slashdot crowd is so completely made up of almost all men, the sections of the stereotype that were most opposite to us were used. I think the joke was to create a site themed to make fun of, not as much the stereotype enveloping the female youth today, but as a direct counter of the stereotype about geek men being losers and never having girlfriends, after all this is a geek news site right?
In closing, I do not like sexist jokes, I don't intend on sounding sexist, however it is people that go off on things like this that make the imaginary gap between our genders eve
Oh come on. If he actually meant to be sexist, that's one thing, but this can also very easily be a pun on the stereotypical way a large number of teenage girls actually act. Just because of this it doesn't mean he's automatically insulting all members of the female gender. If you are so arrogant to think that every event like this is an attack directly on your gender, then you need to grow up and learn to think critically. Even if he meant this event to be sexist, which I really doubt, then would he even do it on such a large scale? Do you honestly give the mods such little credit in the common sense department? Come on now.
As far as stereotypes go, this is a very real one, I have a teenage sister and friends that follow many parts of this stereotype. You should be less worried about overreacting because you didn't actually read between the lines, and more worried about what society has done to your gender and what a majority of teenage girls of this age have become.
As far as funny goes, this was meant as a joke. If he were to theme it after all of the stereotypes surrounding what "real man" is for example. There would be people for an against that as well, but that doesn't change the fact that it was done in jest. He wasn't trying to insult a gender. He was merely poking fun at a popular stereotype. If you're incapable of thinking for yourself and need to follow these stereotypes for acceptance, then that's your problem, not ours.
My gender has plenty of these stereotypes as well, but we'll leave that for when someone posts disapprovingly after the mods decide to theme slashdot after macho men, football players, etc, etc.
I'm not trying to say you follow any of these at all, merely giving you plenty of what if questions as food for though. I appologize if you take any of this negatively, but I aim to inform, not to insult.
Anyway, happy "april first", As in "april fools day".
What's that Lassy?! Timmy fell down the well?! Dear god! Someone call an excorsist, three horses, a priest, and get me a bottle of marshmallow fluff! Pronto!
I'd heard the other definition from other Slashdotters I believe (I don't remember, but hey, sounds like something they would say), but as far as considering it a word, I haven't ever considered acronyms as words myself. I've usually just thought of them as pointers to phrases (like function prototypes to functions), but I digress. Anyway, i'm off topic as it is so, thanks for pointing that out.
It's an acronym, not a word. It stands for "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt", it's a marketing term, and can also be defined as (if you really want to) "Fucked Up Disinformation" if you like that better. It's no more a word than "LOL" or "ROFL". I mean this as a correction, not a flame, so please don't take it negatively. I do however agree with the frequent overuse of the acronym.
Ah, I usually just pipe to it and thought it may follow a similar action when moving directly to a device file, my bad. Thank you for the civil answer. Glad people don't always answer with flames on slashdot.
Really? I thought leetspeak was for newbies. :P Please refrain from such dumb comments and usage of such horrible slang. However seriously, yes, you can, I know that, but I personally doubt anyone with even a thimble of sense uses that method primarily if only because it's a waste of keystrokes and time. Though to go along with your statement, perhaps it's /dev/null and pipes that should be added to the list instead. They both have multitudes of uses of which many people take for granted. (pipes don't have as much to do with this, but they are another equally underrated mechanism)
A good point, all hail the bit bucket
s/"In my day"/"Back in my Nam days"/g Fixed.
Apparently you and all your replies don't delete files often. I'd like to suggest adding "rm" to your lists.
...that we'll finally get "2 person solitaire"? Multiplayer pain is always the best. *snickers*
First off, please stop being such a jerk, we didn't ask for it, we didn't curse at you, and frankly I don't care for your attitude. Secondly, his response was a jest in response to your flame of open office. Do us all a favor, please don't post further until you get some anger management because flames are about as interesting to read as cereal boxes, and last I checked, cursing isn't a "cool thing".
I can understand where she's coming from, but not everyone learns the same way. Some people are quick hand note takers, and some are quicker at typing. Some people are better at organizing and utilizing hand written notes and some aren't. I for one use my laptop to take notes a lot, and to write reports, and do a large number of other things. Digital notes are easy to organize and recall at later dates, as well as search through. Forcing a student to use a pencil won't do much else than force them to sit and become a note taking zombie, it doesn't mean they'll learn more simply because you force them to take the slower method. I think she went a tad overboard at flat out banning them.
The fact still stands that they did pay for the class, if they fail because they were playing solitaire all class, that's their problem, not hers, I doubt they would have gotten more out of the class if the laptops were banned to begin with given their total lack of interest.
If they are interrupting the class, that's one thing, if they're disturbing you in some way that's one thing as well, but outright banning them on such personal grounds is not the way to go about it. Forcing them to learn your way will most of the time only put up road blocks, I personally wouldn't want to be the cause of someone's failure.
Some of you say "well he can't take a laptop to a court", okay, and i'd like to note that this isn't a court, this is merely a school for learning, who said he was going to take a laptop to court? He's partaking in the process of becoming a lawyer (or whatever he may be trying for). When you were learning in 3rd grade and you had school paid lunches, chalkboards, supplies, and a professor, are they going to let you bring those? I somehow doubt it.
Next up some said it was "interfering with the teacher", okay, how? The relatively silent typing? The jealousy of having a piece of technology he/she doesn't? Were they playing loud music? Were they distracting other students? You say "interfering", but all you seem to have here is a professors personal opinion getting in the way of her own teaching.
After that someone said "teachers teach teaching". Uh...right, because people all obviously learn the same way don't they? Show me the international standard that our brains all adhere to and i'll call it a day.
The most common notetaking practice is a teacher rambles on and on for an hour or so expecting you to take good notes of everything. How does any of that instigate "thinking and analyzing"? If you decide to ask questions during the note taking session, who will have more information to actually think and analyze? The people who were allowed to take notes their way? I'm not saying they should be allowed to inscribe notes on the wall in their own blood because they can do it faster (spare me the sarcasm). Or the ones struggling to keep up because you force them to conform to your ideals? Some people have been screaming "respect your professors", but you seem to forget that professors don't know everything either, just because they may know a considerable amount in their field doesn't mean an electrical engineer can tell you how to oil paint.
(P.S. Only reply if you have something meaningful to say, purposeful misinterpretation gets boring real quick.)
Heh, it was a joke, sorry I didn't make it more obvious. I just figured that the growth rate of the Halo game fanbase would work perfectly when compared to the adoption rate of iTunes. No worries.
Chances are that they're following the age old corporate habit of following completely unreliable and sometimes unrelated statistics. For example, downloads doesn't equal users (See: Browsers, Chat clients, Websites, etc), discovering more bugs doesn't make the product insecure (See: Browser and Operating system security debates.), etc. However 9 times out of 10, someone will make an outrageous claim based on these statistics, and people, not knowing better, will write articles about it. In the end it's just publicity.
Quite true, and given the number of iPod users that readily advocate it, the adoption rate is high enough i'm sure. Real...I don't have much to say about Real products. At least nothing that hasn't already been said.
I think it's a reference to the success of the XBox game Halo, and the maddening fanboys that grew up all around it. Though I suppose that could be taken rather negatively.
...if it has anything to do with the fact that everyone and their dog I see these days owns an ipod. Hmm.
One word: Boredom.
Not if I get it first! *grabs all the hardware he can carry and runs for the stairs*
It's notable that in some of these cases, you aren't the one actually doing the buying. You have to go through your supervisor, which goes to his boss, which goes to his boss for permission, then checks the budget, then goes back to your supervisor, then (while miraculously not checking with you much at all) goes to another department (whoever does the purchases), which then take your boss's boss's notes, and attempts to interpret them while trying to understand everything said boss left out. You can respond to this and say "Well that's stupid" and "They don't do that", but i've seen it happen quite enough. The moral of this story? Please go to the people that know what they're doing before ordering, this may be a request in vain though. I'd rather communicate directly, or write the request myself than let my management's, management's, management write their obscure version of what I said.
(P.S. In one of said cases, the media services department wanted firewire cards, so they decided to go to the quick fix video guy that asks google for everything. He didn't even check with us to see what interfaces the new machines we were buying had, he ended up buying a PCI-X card, with Firewire 800 and USB2.0. The computers we recieved/were recieving, had USB2.0 already, and PCI-E. I had no chance to intervene at all, this took place completely without my knowledge. However, that's not the worst of it, he managed to convince management that buying a $250 PCI-X card and sticking it in a normal PCI slot, was somehow not wasteful at all, I protested, but instead they had me install the cards and forget about it. I've had to live with his quick fixes for a while now, and the budget suffers. Management never seems to trust the right people, and to top it off, he's a brown noser that drives the boss's wife places when he's busy.)