No Analogies do not have to be exact, but they should at least be representative. A business license can be revoked if you do not follow its terms and the license references those terms. A business license is actually designed to keep bad actors out of the business world. A marriage license cannot be revoked by the government unless you can prove it was obtained fraudulently. There are no other terms to follow throughout your marriage. A marriage license does not prevent in any way, shape, or form, prevent bad parenting. Thus, the whole "marriage" has a "conduit" for families or "raising" children argument is ill-founded.
The government also had an interest in property. Marriage, sanctioned by the government, basically gave men the right to rape and/or beat their wives. If a woman, before what...the 60's? went to the government for help or relief from their abusive husband...what happened? Nothing. She was his wife...he had a right to treat her that way! If a man raped his next door neighbour, he would be put on trial. But, if he raped his wife...well that was just her duty.
The business license will include a reference to all the regulations that the CEO must abide by. Your analogy is false.
I never said marriage was about inheritance. I said it was about the exchange of property "i.e. women." One man gives over his daughter to another man. That is the tradition of marriage. You cannot deny this.
Then if you don't support the ban of single parenthood, why support the ban of gay marriage? Neither of them have such a negative impact on families that they merit a ban.
I said you were ignorant because you admitted to as much. You said you were not an expert on the issue of what was the best parental relationship for raising children. I took your word for it. I say you are afraid because you are willing to exclude gays from marriage simply because you do not know the effect they will have on children.
Also, if western governments are interested in marriage as a "conduit" for families - please indicate to me where it states on your marriage license that you agree to be a good parent? Its not there, know why? The government is not issuing a parenting license or a family license.
Well then, my reasoning still holds. From about the Rennaissance on, to about the 1960's, the reason for a western government to recognise marriages was for the exchange of property...and fees.
Also, if people are so concerned about the "raising" of children...why not have the government ban single parenthood? From the tone of your posts...I'm guessing that you don't think that is such a bad idea. You are ignorant and afraid, that is no reason to deny gays the right to marriage.
I think you have a pretty sanitised idea of the history of marriage. Marriage:
Man has daughter. Man realises that he can only have so many daughters around to clean the yard and gather wood or roots to eat. After awhile all his daughters become a strain on his resources. So, Man decides to ship daughter off to neighbour and even decides to sweeten the pot with a couple of goats. This tradition slowly takes hold and finally people in authority (usually clerics), decide to get in on the action for a piece of the pie. Clerics say to Man: If you want to give your daughter away, you must have their union witnessed by us - for a fee of course (say, a couple of chickens). If union is not witnessed by us, they shall burn for all eternity.
Marriage was never about "social values" or the "social fabric." It was about the exchange of property and it was, and still is, a cash grab. It wasn't until the last 40 years or so (during women's lib.) that marriage changed into a contract between two people - the spouses.
Also, if your description of marriage is true...(but its not) what then is the argument to exclude gays? Gays are just as capable as anyone else to raise a family. It's called adoption.
Cool, I suggest the FutureShop first. I was just there two or three days ago. I haven't been to the Bay in a couple of Weeks. Again, no hard drives for sale though...kinda shitty.
I'm a little late on this and I can't figure out if this board has private messaging...but oh well. I've seen 360's in the Futureshop out in the SouthKeys Shopping centre. I've also seen some in the Bay's toy department at the Rideau Centre (its in the basement and out of the way - usually dead). But, all the 360's I've seen are core only. And, I haven't seen the hard drive for sale. So there are some around - just not any premium ones. Hope this helps.
And yes, I did shop around for that 6800Gt. But, by the same token, the original xbox cost $700 (before tax!) when it came out here (much like our australian friend mentioned above - the us dollar was worth much more back then) and the ps2 was over $500.
He's probably not from the U.S. Mine cost $550 canadian when I got it(two months after release). Tab after taxes...$630. With the exchange rate at the time, that's $530 U.S. (or $460 U.S. before tax).
I understand your point, but somedays when I take the bus from Ottawa to Montreal I just really fucking want to get to Montreal. Other days, I want to just take a ride and enjoy the scenery. Either way, the 'fun' is in getting to Montreal...I just have a different attitude about it.
I don't think either game will be mutually exclusive. You can play both and find what you need.
I'm thinking he probably works on some sort of assembly line and "installs" 1000 motherboards a month (something like that). Also, the components he's described seem to be more suited for desktops not servers...so I don't really know why his advice applies in this situation.
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No Analogies do not have to be exact, but they should at least be representative. A business license can be revoked if you do not follow its terms and the license references those terms. A business license is actually designed to keep bad actors out of the business world. A marriage license cannot be revoked by the government unless you can prove it was obtained fraudulently. There are no other terms to follow throughout your marriage. A marriage license does not prevent in any way, shape, or form, prevent bad parenting. Thus, the whole "marriage" has a "conduit" for families or "raising" children argument is ill-founded. The government also had an interest in property. Marriage, sanctioned by the government, basically gave men the right to rape and/or beat their wives. If a woman, before what...the 60's? went to the government for help or relief from their abusive husband...what happened? Nothing. She was his wife...he had a right to treat her that way! If a man raped his next door neighbour, he would be put on trial. But, if he raped his wife...well that was just her duty.
The business license will include a reference to all the regulations that the CEO must abide by. Your analogy is false. I never said marriage was about inheritance. I said it was about the exchange of property "i.e. women." One man gives over his daughter to another man. That is the tradition of marriage. You cannot deny this. Then if you don't support the ban of single parenthood, why support the ban of gay marriage? Neither of them have such a negative impact on families that they merit a ban. I said you were ignorant because you admitted to as much. You said you were not an expert on the issue of what was the best parental relationship for raising children. I took your word for it. I say you are afraid because you are willing to exclude gays from marriage simply because you do not know the effect they will have on children.
Also, if western governments are interested in marriage as a "conduit" for families - please indicate to me where it states on your marriage license that you agree to be a good parent? Its not there, know why? The government is not issuing a parenting license or a family license.
Well then, my reasoning still holds. From about the Rennaissance on, to about the 1960's, the reason for a western government to recognise marriages was for the exchange of property...and fees. Also, if people are so concerned about the "raising" of children...why not have the government ban single parenthood? From the tone of your posts...I'm guessing that you don't think that is such a bad idea. You are ignorant and afraid, that is no reason to deny gays the right to marriage.
I think you have a pretty sanitised idea of the history of marriage. Marriage: Man has daughter. Man realises that he can only have so many daughters around to clean the yard and gather wood or roots to eat. After awhile all his daughters become a strain on his resources. So, Man decides to ship daughter off to neighbour and even decides to sweeten the pot with a couple of goats. This tradition slowly takes hold and finally people in authority (usually clerics), decide to get in on the action for a piece of the pie. Clerics say to Man: If you want to give your daughter away, you must have their union witnessed by us - for a fee of course (say, a couple of chickens). If union is not witnessed by us, they shall burn for all eternity. Marriage was never about "social values" or the "social fabric." It was about the exchange of property and it was, and still is, a cash grab. It wasn't until the last 40 years or so (during women's lib.) that marriage changed into a contract between two people - the spouses. Also, if your description of marriage is true...(but its not) what then is the argument to exclude gays? Gays are just as capable as anyone else to raise a family. It's called adoption.
Cool, I suggest the FutureShop first. I was just there two or three days ago. I haven't been to the Bay in a couple of Weeks. Again, no hard drives for sale though...kinda shitty.
I'm a little late on this and I can't figure out if this board has private messaging...but oh well. I've seen 360's in the Futureshop out in the SouthKeys Shopping centre. I've also seen some in the Bay's toy department at the Rideau Centre (its in the basement and out of the way - usually dead). But, all the 360's I've seen are core only. And, I haven't seen the hard drive for sale. So there are some around - just not any premium ones. Hope this helps.
And yes, I did shop around for that 6800Gt. But, by the same token, the original xbox cost $700 (before tax!) when it came out here (much like our australian friend mentioned above - the us dollar was worth much more back then) and the ps2 was over $500.
He's probably not from the U.S. Mine cost $550 canadian when I got it(two months after release). Tab after taxes...$630. With the exchange rate at the time, that's $530 U.S. (or $460 U.S. before tax).
Have fun reading all the bitching and moaning about the latest konfabulator release.
I understand your point, but somedays when I take the bus from Ottawa to Montreal I just really fucking want to get to Montreal. Other days, I want to just take a ride and enjoy the scenery. Either way, the 'fun' is in getting to Montreal...I just have a different attitude about it. I don't think either game will be mutually exclusive. You can play both and find what you need.
I'm thinking he probably works on some sort of assembly line and "installs" 1000 motherboards a month (something like that). Also, the components he's described seem to be more suited for desktops not servers...so I don't really know why his advice applies in this situation.