There is nothing to say they won't tell, that's why we work in IT... we can just send anonymous emails regarding others in our company.
Perhaps we're abusing the power somewhat? Nah... we're all stuck up on the bloody stage to make sure we perform right, we might as well make use of the power we have...
We have a policy where I work. If you're good at what you do, we hire you. Out of a team, about 15% of them are female. This is merely because they had the better qualifications and the people skills necessary for the positions they were going for.
An interesting point to note in my company is that there are no mixed race people. We are all white native-english speakers. Racism? Perhaps. But if we get someone in here who we can't easily convey an idle conversation idea too, how are we to be expected to get them to code as we wish?
I once witnessed one of my office's receptionists get hung up on because she was an Islander. Hell, she was one of the nicest people I know, but even I had issues talking to her for lack of understanding. The biggest issue we have is with th e huggy-feely department (Human Resources) demanding that we have equal opportunity. That's great, but I hate to say it, when your in an environment you don't want to have a complete curve ball thrown at you... if I were the only white guy in a team of asian-heritage coders, I would fully expect the same sort of treatment.
Each race/gender has their place, but to call someone racist for ensuring their team works well together and there are minimal communication problems?
You come out of school cocky, but still aware that you don't know a lot at all, but then they have a boss who basically makes them feel like they don't know anything about their chosen profession and kills their confidence
Happened to me, until I remembered that I chose security as my profession and started idly dropping threats where people could hear. It was risky, but I was ready to leave anyway... words that made it to the boss, who has sinced realised that most people who work in IT are crazy and that he can't treat people like that. The department has been better since I started posting BOFH stories on the internal website...
Indeed, despite their choice of language, they have it in one.
Just because, in this case, the judge won't understand it, or the company thinks they stand to lose money from letting it be seen, doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to see it... my latest GPS device (a TomTom) has an Open Source system on it, runs on Linux. Thankfully, I don't understand it, and I don't want to, its not my field. BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, if for a second I didn't trust the machine, I could take a look and know exactly what it was doing.
With a voting machine this should be an integral part of the trust process... we know how the box where we slip our voting slips works... why should we not know how the machine we punch our answers into work the same way?
Exactly, a good example could be all the vulnerabilities/virii appearing around the Apple market, now that they have come to the fore, let's all bitch about them and try to bring them down.
I guess the biggest part is, we are geeks of the internet, and most of us spent school being the underdog... it's like I'm getting my own back against that dead-shit bully from high school...
Being a bit of a racist sadistic guy, I certainly would if I had the idea and coded GUI.
what the fsck was Wal-Mart thinking when they agreed to sell it ?
Probably something along the lines of "hmm... america didn't do so hot in Iraq... I reckon a few people would buy this to feel better" or something to that tune.
Hell, someone get me a copy to Australia and I'll buy it.
This is serious in the same way one could be serious on, for example, OpenBSD. Just because they have root on a system doesn't necessarily mean game over. If I run at a high security level on my router and/or firewall then users can't modify the rules, and they can't load kernel modules to include things like the bpf for sniffing.
With this kind of exploit its possible that it could be leveraged to bypass these... THAT is why it is a problem. If you think root is the end of the world for your system, your missing some important bits of information.
Being kicked in the balls is simpler and much more enjoyable. PLUS you can tell what the person who is doing the kicking is saying to you without a translation tool...
There is a problem with this that I noticed a few months ago when we implemented a similar system. If I might take a moment to slide slightly off topic:
RCPT TO: Address (conforms to company standard) firstnamelastname@company.com RCPT TO: Address (User Error): firstname.lastname@company.com RCPT TO: Address (Spam): lastnamefirstnamelastname@company.com
My solution came in the form of trigram's (an algorithm I uncovered in some ruby code and converted to C). A trigram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigram involves matching blocks of three characters and checking these against the legitimate user name. I found that this dramatically reduces our incoming Spam, but allows for those users who add the extraneous character to the email. Based on a probability rating depending on the number of difference's the email is continued, or the SMTP Proxy kills it off with a RSET.
No doubt others would have thought of this, but I haven't been able to find it.
If an employee leaves and goes crazy later, and if you didn't change all his passwords when he left, then a regular change policy will avoid one problem. Of course it's more likely that a problem employee will strike back immediately. Or will have planted back doors before leaving.
Ours usually go crazy because of the IT Adminisitrators... they leave of their own accord:D That said, we have a policy in place where once a month (over a weekend) we fire up john the ripper on a couple of Quad Xeon servers. Any password that is cracked at the end of the weekend is reset to something unintelligable and the user is warned.
With the threat of having a password that looks like line noise the users have stopped picking stupid passwords. We still run the cracking process, but we have less of a reason too now. It is rare that we even check its logs at the end of the run now. Soon we'll be able to just get back to Prey or F.E.A.R. or (in my case) NetHack and not have to worry about our passwords. Fear will keep the local users in line. Fear of this perl script. http://insecure.org/stc/sti
Unfortunately for most, I only check my email three or four times a day... you have a higher chance of me moderating you on/. than an email response.
Why? Because I actually have a job to do. In the 15 minutes I have for my break from maintaining the network I do my own thing... I surf/. I browse the daily wtf... I don't have time for your email, your petty request for more disk space... I am a Network Administrator, not a PR representative for the using class.
I would be rather surprised if you couldn't get your wireless card to work in Linux. Hell, I don't think I have come across hardware yet that I have had to load drivers for. Maybe I got lucky, but even my nVidia gear works straight off the bat... which is more than I can say for Micro$oft.
Excuse me for going offtopic, it's not normally something I do.
What is the obsession with first post? Do you think it makes you look cool? It always intrigues me to surf/. at -1 for when I moderate so I tend to see a lot of this... what is the obsession? On the rare occaision I see a decent first post, the poster isn't screaming 'w00t w00t i gt fpst!' he is actually commenting on the article...
So I ask you, in a legitimate non-flaming manner: What is your obsession with first post? And why do a lot of you feel the need to post as an AC?
There is no "artificial intelligence". All intelligence that is called artificial intelligence is genuine.
It was always my understanding that it was called artificial intelligence because it was created by a being with actual intelligence (ok, so this doesn't really apply to the human race, but you get the idea)... it might still be "genuine" (Cross Ref: Windows Genuine Advantage) but it is still "artificial" because it was created by something that has a natural intelligence.
Arguably (if you believe that sort of thing) you are correct, because a human was created by a God... etc. etc.
I am getting sick and tired of the anonymous coward bullshit out there... so a couple of things that I feel need to be said
/. != digg Are you surprised?? /. is headed up by a core team of authors. It isn't the crappy mess of digg, (not flaming), nor is it the structured evil of bbc (flaming). It is headed up and maintained by a couple of people who actually have an interest in other things. Yes that's right, they are interested in other things.
Rather than trolling over/. (and yes I did bite) why don't you submit a story? It saves the bullshit everyone else has to deal with AND you can use your name for prestige and glory amongst your local AOL crew.
Yes I am posting with my real name? Screw these anonymous cowards
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There is nothing to say they won't tell, that's why we work in IT... we can just send anonymous emails regarding others in our company.
Perhaps we're abusing the power somewhat? Nah... we're all stuck up on the bloody stage to make sure we perform right, we might as well make use of the power we have...
We have a policy where I work. If you're good at what you do, we hire you. Out of a team, about 15% of them are female. This is merely because they had the better qualifications and the people skills necessary for the positions they were going for.
An interesting point to note in my company is that there are no mixed race people. We are all white native-english speakers. Racism? Perhaps. But if we get someone in here who we can't easily convey an idle conversation idea too, how are we to be expected to get them to code as we wish?
I once witnessed one of my office's receptionists get hung up on because she was an Islander. Hell, she was one of the nicest people I know, but even I had issues talking to her for lack of understanding. The biggest issue we have is with th e huggy-feely department (Human Resources) demanding that we have equal opportunity. That's great, but I hate to say it, when your in an environment you don't want to have a complete curve ball thrown at you... if I were the only white guy in a team of asian-heritage coders, I would fully expect the same sort of treatment.
Each race/gender has their place, but to call someone racist for ensuring their team works well together and there are minimal communication problems?
You come out of school cocky, but still aware that you don't know a lot at all, but then they have a boss who basically makes them feel like they don't know anything about their chosen profession and kills their confidence
Happened to me, until I remembered that I chose security as my profession and started idly dropping threats where people could hear. It was risky, but I was ready to leave anyway... words that made it to the boss, who has sinced realised that most people who work in IT are crazy and that he can't treat people like that. The department has been better since I started posting BOFH stories on the internal website...
Business as usual then? DDoS attacks, the crackers finding ways to be one step ahead of the security team, and someone reading my email...
Yep, sounds like business as usual to me...
Indeed, despite their choice of language, they have it in one.
Just because, in this case, the judge won't understand it, or the company thinks they stand to lose money from letting it be seen, doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to see it... my latest GPS device (a TomTom) has an Open Source system on it, runs on Linux. Thankfully, I don't understand it, and I don't want to, its not my field. BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, if for a second I didn't trust the machine, I could take a look and know exactly what it was doing.
With a voting machine this should be an integral part of the trust process... we know how the box where we slip our voting slips works... why should we not know how the machine we punch our answers into work the same way?
Exactly, a good example could be all the vulnerabilities/virii appearing around the Apple market, now that they have come to the fore, let's all bitch about them and try to bring them down.
I guess the biggest part is, we are geeks of the internet, and most of us spent school being the underdog... it's like I'm getting my own back against that dead-shit bully from high school...
As opposed to TSQL or any of the other sorts? Or maybe the proprietry stuff in Oracle... which would be the first SQL...
You forgot "Choir Boys who said No"
Warning: Protestant Posting Detected
What kind of ass-hat would make a game like this
Being a bit of a racist sadistic guy, I certainly would if I had the idea and coded GUI.
what the fsck was Wal-Mart thinking when they agreed to sell it ?
Probably something along the lines of "hmm... america didn't do so hot in Iraq... I reckon a few people would buy this to feel better" or something to that tune.
Hell, someone get me a copy to Australia and I'll buy it.
Someone's obviously never forgotten to sleep their laptop before entering a big presentation...
Well obviously! Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to jump like that...
This is serious in the same way one could be serious on, for example, OpenBSD. Just because they have root on a system doesn't necessarily mean game over. If I run at a high security level on my router and/or firewall then users can't modify the rules, and they can't load kernel modules to include things like the bpf for sniffing.
With this kind of exploit its possible that it could be leveraged to bypass these... THAT is why it is a problem. If you think root is the end of the world for your system, your missing some important bits of information.
Oh come on, don't lie on /.
Being kicked in the balls is simpler and much more enjoyable. PLUS you can tell what the person who is doing the kicking is saying to you without a translation tool...
That's because 100m's aint that far for an hour travel ;)
There is a problem with this that I noticed a few months ago when we implemented a similar system. If I might take a moment to slide slightly off topic:
RCPT TO: Address (conforms to company standard) firstnamelastname@company.com
RCPT TO: Address (User Error): firstname.lastname@company.com
RCPT TO: Address (Spam): lastnamefirstnamelastname@company.com
My solution came in the form of trigram's (an algorithm I uncovered in some ruby code and converted to C). A trigram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigram involves matching blocks of three characters and checking these against the legitimate user name. I found that this dramatically reduces our incoming Spam, but allows for those users who add the extraneous character to the email. Based on a probability rating depending on the number of difference's the email is continued, or the SMTP Proxy kills it off with a RSET.
No doubt others would have thought of this, but I haven't been able to find it.
If an employee leaves and goes crazy later, and if you didn't change all his passwords when he left, then a regular change policy will avoid one problem. Of course it's more likely that a problem employee will strike back immediately. Or will have planted back doors before leaving.
:D That said, we have a policy in place where once a month (over a weekend) we fire up john the ripper on a couple of Quad Xeon servers. Any password that is cracked at the end of the weekend is reset to something unintelligable and the user is warned.
Ours usually go crazy because of the IT Adminisitrators... they leave of their own accord
With the threat of having a password that looks like line noise the users have stopped picking stupid passwords. We still run the cracking process, but we have less of a reason too now. It is rare that we even check its logs at the end of the run now. Soon we'll be able to just get back to Prey or F.E.A.R. or (in my case) NetHack and not have to worry about our passwords. Fear will keep the local users in line. Fear of this perl script. http://insecure.org/stc/sti
I'd fire that jackhole
/. than an email response.
/. I browse the daily wtf... I don't have time for your email, your petty request for more disk space... I am a Network Administrator, not a PR representative for the using class.
Unfortunately for most, I only check my email three or four times a day... you have a higher chance of me moderating you on
Why? Because I actually have a job to do. In the 15 minutes I have for my break from maintaining the network I do my own thing... I surf
Heh, and if I didn't want to do it on the internet, how stupid would I feel.
Laptop or Internet... Speed or Lag... Backups under my control, or trust a third party... Hmmm...
Well at least there will be less waste than the Avian Transport of yester year... Ref: http://coders.meta.net.nz/~perry/rfc/index-1149.ht ml RFC 1149 http://coders.meta.net.nz/~perry/rfc/index-2549.ht ml RFC 2549, and quicker too.
I would be rather surprised if you couldn't get your wireless card to work in Linux. Hell, I don't think I have come across hardware yet that I have had to load drivers for. Maybe I got lucky, but even my nVidia gear works straight off the bat... which is more than I can say for Micro$oft.
On a more serious note though..
;)
I always thought it was easier to just torture somebody for the password?
Who needs torture when there is vodka? Also, if they're like me you have two passwords, one overwrites the hard disk
Excuse me for going offtopic, it's not normally something I do.
/. at -1 for when I moderate so I tend to see a lot of this... what is the obsession? On the rare occaision I see a decent first post, the poster isn't screaming 'w00t w00t i gt fpst!' he is actually commenting on the article...
What is the obsession with first post? Do you think it makes you look cool? It always intrigues me to surf
So I ask you, in a legitimate non-flaming manner: What is your obsession with first post? And why do a lot of you feel the need to post as an AC?
Yeah, it probably belongs to the guy who would otherwise stand a snowball's chance of winning...
There is no "artificial intelligence". All intelligence that is called artificial intelligence is genuine.
It was always my understanding that it was called artificial intelligence because it was created by a being with actual intelligence (ok, so this doesn't really apply to the human race, but you get the idea)... it might still be "genuine" (Cross Ref: Windows Genuine Advantage) but it is still "artificial" because it was created by something that has a natural intelligence.
Arguably (if you believe that sort of thing) you are correct, because a human was created by a God... etc. etc.
Ok, I know this is off topic...
/. != digg Are you surprised??
/. is headed up by a core team of authors. It isn't the crappy mess of digg, (not flaming), nor is it the structured evil of bbc (flaming). It is headed up and maintained by a couple of people who actually have an interest in other things. Yes that's right, they are interested in other things.
/. (and yes I did bite) why don't you submit a story? It saves the bullshit everyone else has to deal with AND you can use your name for prestige and glory amongst your local AOL crew.
I am getting sick and tired of the anonymous coward bullshit out there... so a couple of things that I feel need to be said
Rather than trolling over
Yes I am posting with my real name? Screw these anonymous cowards