Encryption was moved from the Munitions list to the Commerce list in 1996 "because of
the increasingly widespread use of encryption products for the
legitimate protection of the privacy of data and communications
in nonmilitary contexts"
"November 15, 1996: Encryption products that presently are or would be
designated in Category XIII of the United States Munitions
List and regulated by the Department of State pursuant to
the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2778 et seq.) shall
be transferred to the Commerce Control List,"
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>>> What it doesn't offer - Local space for your photos, MP3's etc.
I need to add that if they offer an OS for existing PC's, they can use the hard drives and freed up 5GB that XP hoarded for MP3's and Photos!
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I take your point on the bandwidth thing. Should Google suddenly expand it's free wi-fi nation wide AND offer a thin client that connects for free, not only are they taking MSFTs customer but they're undercutting the crap out of the Telco's and ISP's as well.
Peacing together the thoughts from this thread I can now see that it is not hard for Google to offer the following. Now that we (think we) know what they already have, and what we have heard they've expressed interest in:
- A super thin client (Google VNC BIOS / Damn Small / similar)
- A super cheap computer - or free OS that sets you free from Windows!
- Free Wi-Fi / free connectivity for Google users, therefore no ISP charges (all that dark fiber they own starts to get used, as well as that mother huge data centre)
- A full range of Web based (thin client) apps, suited to the home user
- No maintenance for the user - no viruses, mal-ware etc, and very good spam filtering
- Slightly better privacy than some of the other providers (e.g AOL)
What it doesn't offer - Local space for your photos, MP3's etc.
I think this has some merit. It'd certainly shake up the Internet 'industry' in the USA particularly the Telco's and DLS providers - but they've had their chance. (Think back to when the ISP forced your browser to their home page, and required you use their services. They had all the opportunity in the world to get it right, but didn't. I have no sympathy for them)
You could be onto something. That is possibly what that huge 'secret' data center is all about. It's one huge server for us to be plugged in as thin clients.
Really? I live just out of Dallas (Rockwall County) and all of the local restaurants (Saltgrass, Snuffers, Applebees) do this routinely. They ask for my drivers licence and swipe it through the register. Someone told me it was because its a dry county that its part of the Uni-Card system. - But at the end of the day, they are swiping my drivers licence into the register.
>>>The quick bit of searching I did indicates that they used iVotronic voting machines.
Oh, that changes everything.
I originally had "Diebold or whoever", but thought it doesn't really matter who's brand I put down the principle is the same... but you know what they say about 'assume'. But thanks for clearing that up and taking the time to research it for me, with the following statement i aim to correct my previous error.:
I guess iVotronic and the people who know they'll be drawn into any investigation will be digging up the dirt on Randy Wooten as fast as they can.
>>> "Also, words here could also be FRAUD and LIE - as in: what proof does he have that he voted for himself and isn't in this just for his "15 minutes of fame by saying he DID vote for himself"._I_ want to get on the news too - maybe I'LL go tell the newsers that MY vote doesn't seem to show in the newspaper tallies either.
I know you are just playing devils advocate, but how I read your statement is that you are saying 'you trust this guy less than Diebold'.... mmm
Would his sworn testimony in front of a grand jury make a difference to you? Anyway, I'm sure Diebold have already started their Private Investigations to get as much dirt on this guy as they can, so if it does go to court the muck is certainly well raked. They'll be doing anything they can to discredit this guy, if they haven't already *sent the boys around* - capiesh?
I'd be interested in the Moderator who marked this "Troll" explaining why he/she did so. And I suggest they read the moderator guidelines before responding.
>>>"No, this incident is probably not an example of electronic voter fraud."
How can you say that???? This is most certainly an major indicator that something is very wrong. Whether it be one person or 100,000, if a vote is missing there is a problem. It would be very hard to prove 100,000 votes were manipulated so this one known vote missing is probably the best indicator you will get. If someone did manipulate the machine they made the fatal mistake of not registering a 'minimum' vote count against a candidate.
this comment makes it sound like its his own fault as he didn't cast a paper vote: "Poinsett County Election Commissioner Junaway Payne said...'The votes were cast on an electronic voting machine, but paper ballots were available.'"
WTF? Blame the guy for his own vote not being counted!!
">>>I wouldn't take this to be not allowing anyone access to the data, and I'm convinced that no judge in the world would interpret it this way."
Lets just hope you have a good lawyer who can put up a decent argument against a well versed set of 'anti-terror' lawyers, and prey that the judge you speak of owns an iPod. (you might want to hope you don't have the anarchists cookbook on your computer too).
But riddle me this Batman - if you submit a story to Slashdot about a new technology bill making denial of service attacks illegal, and the Governments site referenced in the article gets Slashdotted.... are you, by the new law, responsible?
At least one of these documents was previously available from the US Department of Justices website but now we get: >>>>"We are sorry, but we are unable to locate the page you requested on the Department of Justice Website."
The Wayback machine shows they had it as late as Dec 2005
>>> "Dying alone and forgotten of old age in some solitary cell as he watches his country move on (or fall apart or whatever happens) without him denies him even that."
Being in prison for the rest of his life gives his supporters time to overthrow a replacement government and then put him back in power. Once the death sentence is carried out, there is no coming back.
>>"got my parents a big-ass memory card and now and then, I copy all the pics off it. I then print out the good ones (Xerox Phaser 8550) and give them as gifts when they show up the next time. They're happy as the proverbial clams."
Thats a good idea.
My Mom has no problem importing the photos to Picasa (now that I set it up already) but I dont think she knows what a backup is. When she is visiting for Christmas I'll sign her up for Snapfish so its just a click and wait for the prints.
>>> I wouldn't worry about commercially sensitive information, For that to be a problem you would need to have the search done by a dishonest customes officer that has photograhic memory the buisness knowledge to reconise "valuable information", and the contacts with a competitor
If I worked for Apple and had data about a new product on my laptop (say the iPhone), and this dude went home and blogged on his anonymous blog, or told his brother 'hey cool new iPhone coming out' who then posted details about it, - release date, size, price, features - things not hard to remember... then yeah, i'd be worried. I'd prolly think I had a leak and start survallience on my board and the reporters they deal with....
>>>" If I was a customs agent I'd be looking for people partitioning half a 60GB iPod and"...."
I'm pretty sure that if you were a customs agent you would not be paid enough to have the training to check for this, nor would you have the time or resources, nor would it do any good."
I worded it that way to avoid someone accusing me of 'helping terrorism' by suggesting to do this, where i'm actually trying to offer a solution... really I am... really... I see you offer ways to curcumvent the process... why do you hate freedom?? (joke)
BZZZZZT Wrong. Commercial Encryption was transferred from the Munitions list to the Commerce List in 1996.
" Following upon the Administration's October 1 announcement, on
November 15, 1996, the President issued the Memorandum directing that
all encryption items controlled on the U.S. Munitions List, except
those specifically designed, developed, configured, adapted, or
modified for military applications, be transferred to the Commerce
Control List. "http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Crypto_export/961230_co mmerce.regs
If you got your hands on Military encryption technology for scrambling your pr0n, then there is prolly a leak at NRL.
>>> "I'm pretty sure my boss would rather not have a copy of the product's source floating around god knows where, even if it is encrypted"
I was expecting to see plenty of debate around this when I saw the article but no, most people were focused on hiding their mp3's and pr0n....
I travel the border occasionally and have carried commercially sensitive information that my employer would not like released - i.e tender documents / competing bid information / commercial contracts. I'm 100% sure the customs guy isn't willing to sign the NDE before he searches my laptop either!!
If someone is serious about smuggling illegal pr0n or ITAR restricted data, they're not going to have it on their laptop. And the Customs guy better be looking for a 'Blue pill' or making sure he's not in a Virtual Machine setup just for him.
If I was a customs agent I'd be looking for people partitioning half a 60GB iPod and encrypting the other half with the data on it: "hey its a 30GB iPod". Then you better be looking for the the USB stick key-chain, ear rings, cufflinks, wristband, watch etc. Also the customs guy would have to rely on others (NSA) to catch e-mailing that encrypted file to yourself....
Someone above discussed exporting encryption technology... well if a 'bad man' has their hands on it - its already too late. I'm sure most of you have heard of Truecrypt - its free, open source and available world wide. Truecrypt also offers reasonable plausible deniability. Its also pretty hard to break. Just use that, then hide the data on a CD-R in your CD music album inside some files labelled "me_singing_creative_commons_songs.mp3"
Sure, they might catch some careless fools, - which goes toward justifying the laws and the processes. But its all just part of the 'security theatre' that Bruce Schneier talks about. It makes everyone feel safe because the TSA are doing something. Its the wrong thing, but its mighty comforting...... (to those that aren't under the magnifying glass.)
If you are a janitor, then pick the one with the least floor area.
If you are a security guard, Google is probably safer from disgruntled customers or workers going postal.
If you are a window cleaner, go with Google. I hear the chicks are hotter.
If you are a chef, go with Google, cos their food sounds pretty good.
If you are a maintenance tech, go with MSFT - rigid corporates are less likley to ride their scooters into the wall.
If you are a russian spy, work for MSFT. They are evil.
If you are an X-ray technician, WTF are you doing in IT....
>> "They're already complaining about traffic and you link to their site?!"
Now would be a good time for them to sign up for Google ad-words. ((never too late)
1. Have your site mistaken for someone else's because Googles purchased it
2. Start to recieve 'way to much' traffic that causes DDoS
3. Increase your bandwidth and sign up for Google ad-words
4. Profit!!! off the company that 'caused' the problem.
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Encryption was moved from the Munitions list to the Commerce list in 1996 "because of the increasingly widespread use of encryption products for the legitimate protection of the privacy of data and communications in nonmilitary contexts"
. htm
"November 15, 1996: Encryption products that presently are or would be designated in Category XIII of the United States Munitions List and regulated by the Department of State pursuant to the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2778 et seq.) shall be transferred to the Commerce Control List,"
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo_crypt_9611_memo
>>> What it doesn't offer - Local space for your photos, MP3's etc.
I need to add that if they offer an OS for existing PC's, they can use the hard drives and freed up 5GB that XP hoarded for MP3's and Photos!
I take your point on the bandwidth thing. Should Google suddenly expand it's free wi-fi nation wide AND offer a thin client that connects for free, not only are they taking MSFTs customer but they're undercutting the crap out of the Telco's and ISP's as well.
Peacing together the thoughts from this thread I can now see that it is not hard for Google to offer the following. Now that we (think we) know what they already have, and what we have heard they've expressed interest in:
- A super thin client (Google VNC BIOS / Damn Small / similar)
- A super cheap computer - or free OS that sets you free from Windows!
- Free Wi-Fi / free connectivity for Google users, therefore no ISP charges (all that dark fiber they own starts to get used, as well as that mother huge data centre)
- A full range of Web based (thin client) apps, suited to the home user
- No maintenance for the user - no viruses, mal-ware etc, and very good spam filtering
- Slightly better privacy than some of the other providers (e.g AOL)
What it doesn't offer - Local space for your photos, MP3's etc.
I think this has some merit. It'd certainly shake up the Internet 'industry' in the USA particularly the Telco's and DLS providers - but they've had their chance. (Think back to when the ISP forced your browser to their home page, and required you use their services. They had all the opportunity in the world to get it right, but didn't. I have no sympathy for them)
You could be onto something. That is possibly what that huge 'secret' data center is all about. It's one huge server for us to be plugged in as thin clients.
Really? I live just out of Dallas (Rockwall County) and all of the local restaurants (Saltgrass, Snuffers, Applebees) do this routinely. They ask for my drivers licence and swipe it through the register. Someone told me it was because its a dry county that its part of the Uni-Card system. - But at the end of the day, they are swiping my drivers licence into the register.
Oh, that changes everything.
I originally had "Diebold or whoever", but thought it doesn't really matter who's brand I put down the principle is the same... but you know what they say about 'assume'. But thanks for clearing that up and taking the time to research it for me, with the following statement i aim to correct my previous error.:
I guess iVotronic and the people who know they'll be drawn into any investigation will be digging up the dirt on Randy Wooten as fast as they can.
>>> "Also, words here could also be FRAUD and LIE - as in: what proof does he have that he voted for himself and isn't in this just for his "15 minutes of fame by saying he DID vote for himself"._I_ want to get on the news too - maybe I'LL go tell the newsers that MY vote doesn't seem to show in the newspaper tallies either.
I know you are just playing devils advocate, but how I read your statement is that you are saying 'you trust this guy less than Diebold'.... mmm
Would his sworn testimony in front of a grand jury make a difference to you? Anyway, I'm sure Diebold have already started their Private Investigations to get as much dirt on this guy as they can, so if it does go to court the muck is certainly well raked. They'll be doing anything they can to discredit this guy, if they haven't already *sent the boys around* - capiesh?
I'd be interested in the Moderator who marked this "Troll" explaining why he/she did so. And I suggest they read the moderator guidelines before responding.
>>>"No, this incident is probably not an example of electronic voter fraud."
How can you say that???? This is most certainly an major indicator that something is very wrong. Whether it be one person or 100,000, if a vote is missing there is a problem. It would be very hard to prove 100,000 votes were manipulated so this one known vote missing is probably the best indicator you will get. If someone did manipulate the machine they made the fatal mistake of not registering a 'minimum' vote count against a candidate.
this comment makes it sound like its his own fault as he didn't cast a paper vote: ...'The votes were cast on an electronic voting machine, but paper ballots were available.'"
"Poinsett County Election Commissioner Junaway Payne said
WTF? Blame the guy for his own vote not being counted!!
">>>I wouldn't take this to be not allowing anyone access to the data, and I'm convinced that no judge in the world would interpret it this way."
Lets just hope you have a good lawyer who can put up a decent argument against a well versed set of 'anti-terror' lawyers, and prey that the judge you speak of owns an iPod. (you might want to hope you don't have the anarchists cookbook on your computer too).
But riddle me this Batman - if you submit a story to Slashdot about a new technology bill making denial of service attacks illegal, and the Governments site referenced in the article gets Slashdotted.... are you, by the new law, responsible?
At least one of these documents was previously available from the US Department of Justices website but now we get:
w ww.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
/ ag/trainingmanual.htm
>>>>"We are sorry, but we are unable to locate the page you requested on the Department of Justice Website."
The Wayback machine shows they had it as late as Dec 2005
Here it is folks, one of the very documents that can get you jailed, was published on the US DOJ website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20051213085938/http://
Full history here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.usdoj.gov
>>> "Dying alone and forgotten of old age in some solitary cell as he watches his country move on (or fall apart or whatever happens) without him denies him even that."
Being in prison for the rest of his life gives his supporters time to overthrow a replacement government and then put him back in power. Once the death sentence is carried out, there is no coming back.
>>"got my parents a big-ass memory card and now and then, I copy all the pics off it. I then print out the good ones (Xerox Phaser 8550) and give them as gifts when they show up the next time. They're happy as the proverbial clams."
Thats a good idea. My Mom has no problem importing the photos to Picasa (now that I set it up already) but I dont think she knows what a backup is. When she is visiting for Christmas I'll sign her up for Snapfish so its just a click and wait for the prints.
>>> I wouldn't worry about commercially sensitive information, For that to be a problem you would need to have the search done by a dishonest customes officer that has photograhic memory the buisness knowledge to reconise "valuable information", and the contacts with a competitor
If I worked for Apple and had data about a new product on my laptop (say the iPhone), and this dude went home and blogged on his anonymous blog, or told his brother 'hey cool new iPhone coming out' who then posted details about it, - release date, size, price, features - things not hard to remember... then yeah, i'd be worried. I'd prolly think I had a leak and start survallience on my board and the reporters they deal with....
>>>" If I was a customs agent I'd be looking for people partitioning half a 60GB iPod and" ...."
I'm pretty sure that if you were a customs agent you would not be paid enough to have the training to check for this, nor would you have the time or resources, nor would it do any good."
I worded it that way to avoid someone accusing me of 'helping terrorism' by suggesting to do this, where i'm actually trying to offer a solution... really I am... really... I see you offer ways to curcumvent the process... why do you hate freedom?? (joke)
BZZZZZT Wrong. Commercial Encryption was transferred from the Munitions list to the Commerce List in 1996.
o mmerce.regs
" Following upon the Administration's October 1 announcement, on November 15, 1996, the President issued the Memorandum directing that all encryption items controlled on the U.S. Munitions List, except those specifically designed, developed, configured, adapted, or modified for military applications, be transferred to the Commerce Control List. " http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Crypto_export/961230_c
If you got your hands on Military encryption technology for scrambling your pr0n, then there is prolly a leak at NRL.
>>> "I'm pretty sure my boss would rather not have a copy of the product's source floating around god knows where, even if it is encrypted"
I was expecting to see plenty of debate around this when I saw the article but no, most people were focused on hiding their mp3's and pr0n....
I travel the border occasionally and have carried commercially sensitive information that my employer would not like released - i.e tender documents / competing bid information / commercial contracts. I'm 100% sure the customs guy isn't willing to sign the NDE before he searches my laptop either!!
If someone is serious about smuggling illegal pr0n or ITAR restricted data, they're not going to have it on their laptop. And the Customs guy better be looking for a 'Blue pill' or making sure he's not in a Virtual Machine setup just for him.
If I was a customs agent I'd be looking for people partitioning half a 60GB iPod and encrypting the other half with the data on it: "hey its a 30GB iPod". Then you better be looking for the the USB stick key-chain, ear rings, cufflinks, wristband, watch etc. Also the customs guy would have to rely on others (NSA) to catch e-mailing that encrypted file to yourself....
Someone above discussed exporting encryption technology... well if a 'bad man' has their hands on it - its already too late. I'm sure most of you have heard of Truecrypt - its free, open source and available world wide. Truecrypt also offers reasonable plausible deniability. Its also pretty hard to break. Just use that, then hide the data on a CD-R in your CD music album inside some files labelled "me_singing_creative_commons_songs.mp3"
Sure, they might catch some careless fools, - which goes toward justifying the laws and the processes. But its all just part of the 'security theatre' that Bruce Schneier talks about. It makes everyone feel safe because the TSA are doing something. Its the wrong thing, but its mighty comforting...... (to those that aren't under the magnifying glass.)
MOre than one...."And now, little man, I give the watch to you"
If the ads have little effect, would that go someway toward proving file sharing does not affect music purchases to the degree the RIAA claim it does?
do i have to explain everything...
Put the adsense in a separate frame loaded with with hidden 'video' related words.
You didnt say what your work area will be:
If you are a janitor, then pick the one with the least floor area.
If you are a security guard, Google is probably safer from disgruntled customers or workers going postal.
If you are a window cleaner, go with Google. I hear the chicks are hotter.
If you are a chef, go with Google, cos their food sounds pretty good.
If you are a maintenance tech, go with MSFT - rigid corporates are less likley to ride their scooters into the wall.
If you are a russian spy, work for MSFT. They are evil.
If you are an X-ray technician, WTF are you doing in IT....
--- I mean adsense ---
that is why i'm still in the '???' phase of making money - I have no clue.
>> "They're already complaining about traffic and you link to their site?!"
Now would be a good time for them to sign up for Google ad-words. ((never too late)
1. Have your site mistaken for someone else's because Googles purchased it
2. Start to recieve 'way to much' traffic that causes DDoS
3. Increase your bandwidth and sign up for Google ad-words
4. Profit!!! off the company that 'caused' the problem.