You should install Ubuntu linux on her PC then. If she is just using the web and e-mail, your going to make her safe(er) from viruses and mal-ware. She can turn it on and off again all she likes too. Its not hard to transition either. My non-tech-savvy wife didnt even notice that i'd done anything, I jsut showed her the 'new place to click' for the web and e-mail.
(I also share your grandmothers concern of leaving windows on all the time without rebooting. -it aint good as some windows updates wont be applied and will bog down etc.)
Are you saying you cant trust Firefox because it is open source? Or are you quoting the whole statement?
I think that OpenOffice and FireFox are more trustworthy because they are Open Source. Any programmer (who knows what they are looking at) can examine open-source code for flaws, insecurity, or malicious intent. The same cannot be said for closed source.
You still have to get your open source apps from a reliable source (same as closed source)... I.e You should only download Firefox from Mozilla.com, and OpenOffice from Openoffice.org. That way, you can ensure no-one has added to the s/w (maliciously) and recompiled it for distibution. No differnt than getting some dodgy version of Windows off Limewire only to find its laden with viruses...
Exactly. I'd take the job of monitoring webservers / security camera's etc... Especially if I could do it from that house in the middle of Fiordland, New Zealand. Remote, peacefull. Bliss.
Until I put up a fence at my house people would walk through our yard stepping over the toys and around the garden furniture and BBQ. Its obvious that its our property, but even when we pointed it out ("hey! WTF are you doing there?", They'd have that dumb look of "oh, huh? what? oh, I didnt realize... I was looking for my tennis ball, cat, etc".
My point is that people will go where there are no barriers.
Now I have a fence and a hedge and they step over the hedge. I went outside one Saturday morning and a guy was in our back yard about 3 ft from by bedroom window flying a f*&kin Kite!!!
Yeah. I was in the middle of a Counter Strike:Source session where I was about to get a wicked knife kill... next thing.. pop "do you want to restart now or later" infront of the CS window... T-Dude turns around and pwnes me in the head with dualies..
Use of comical parody, being your post on/. on Sunday 23 Day of April in the year 2005, is a violation of the parody copyright with which our company holds.
If you wish to make a parody of someones post, we are able to licence this to you at a reasonable cost.
*I* sure as hell wouldn't pay $250 to sit in a hockey arena and watch a Madonna Concert. For that matter, I wouldn't pay that much to see a music act I really liked.
EXACTLY!!!!!! and because you didnt turn up Madonna blames it on P2P and does not face the fact that she is losing fans to another band...
Check this out:
People start to like an up and coming band thats $50 = Less people at Madonnas concert = "must be stealing music" = Jack up prices even higher for existing fans = lose more fans to cheaper bands = blame it on P2P.
I like what you've said and agree. ,
I work in the aviation industry and aircraft manufacturers release similar 'patches'. One operator of a certain aircraft (say B747) discovers a crack in a certain part of the wing, or a control cable that is jamming. They report this to Boeing, who then release a service buletin to all the users with all the details, inluding the approprite timeframe with which the inspection / modification must take place and steps required for the repair. It may be to inspect a part, it may be to ground the fleet and inspect for a major crack or replace a rudder control cable before next flight. ALL the details are provided which allows operators to have enough knowledge to make an educated decision on how many resources to put into fulfilling the service buletin, and if they cant fulfill it in the timeframe, what the risks are.
Without the vendor providing all the information, the end user does not know the risks they are opening themselves up to, and thus the ability to assess if its worth committing (valuable) resources to immeadiatly. An airplane may well require full testing of systems after the repair, perhaps even a test flight to ensure full functionality from before the repair.
In an ideal world, MS would provide all the information required, and IT departments would have unlimited resources to test the patch the second its released before deploying on their 'fleet'. Its not an ideal world, and IT departments dont have those kind of resources. The least MS can do is provide GOOD information to allow IT management to make an assessment of the risk they are exposing themselves and their company to. If MS dont want to give out that infomation, the least the can do is re-grade their criticality of updates. If the can gain the trust of the IT world that a critical patch is critical, and not over use it, that would go someway to providing the IT world with the ability to manage the resources to deploy these updates.
While the analagy to aircraft is not everybodys way of thinking. Know that more and more safety critical systems are using MS products. Would you fly on an 'unpatched' 747? Would you ride on an 'unpatched' subway? Would you like it if the computer that monitors your credit and banking information at the local financial institution is unpatched? What if each case, the patch was not fully explained, deployed in a hurry and the system not fully tested, or not deployed at all? Crash, Crash, Crash. Game over.
I sent a friend of mine an e-mail, and i got an automated response saying that I have to reply to it for the e-mail to get through, it would then add me to his trusted list, or otherwise it would be marked as spam
So how will the 'genuine' banks and other financial institutions / ebay / paypal, react to that e-mail? Most automated emails, have a 'do_not_reply@provider.com' as their reply address...?
I think they overlap. The average household debt includes all the money owed by each household to any financial institution (includes American companies). The national debt is how much money the county owes other countries ( or the world bank). Government spending doesnt run up household debt till they raise the taxes and you have to borrow off your bank to pay them.
they could just name it a different name, more removed from Blackberry (as it uses different technology anyway). I'd pay money to see them call the Chineese product sold in the US "Crackberry", then see RIM cry like a girl "hey! thats our name!..... [thinks] oh no thats right, we dont like that name, quick, we better trademark it anyway...
most people over there [china] do not have enough money for electronic gizmos that nobody needs....
Neither do people in America.... that is why the average household debt is $84,000 and most families average $8,000 on credit cards. Americans cant afford the gadgets they buy, they are just willing to spend someone elses money.
In that sense, China is on a level playing field. They have to compete to pay off American Government officials exactly the same as everyone else. (Tobacco companies, Drug companies, Oil disributers and Defence Industy).
Well, a dance/techno rave is probably more appropriate, but exactly... that is my point...
(Although I dont believe that games influence behaviour - as long as you can tell the difference between what is real and what is not, and know the difference between right and wrong in the real world, you'll be ok. People that take gameplay to the real world are slightly unhinged anyway...
If video games influence our behaviour, then all those years of playing PacMan would have us running around in darkened rooms listening to repetitive music munching on pills...
True. I probably came across the wrong way. I do like ubuntu and have recommended it to friends and colleagues, and would without hesitation install it on my grandmothers PC if needed.
It is a good distro, i guess i was just too impatient and wanted it done. I should be blaming the app that i was trying to install, not ubuntu. I like the idea of the universe/multiverse thing, at least you can quickly and easily see what is available and not have to go searching for 'potentially dodgy' exe's...
Thank you for making me see the error of my ways.. i'll shut-up now.
or No operating system / Linux up to Win XP Pro for $8...?..
it its the latter.. wow. I really thought dell could push the cost down of there lowest PC's down if they ditched Windows.. but for an extra 8 bucks, no wonder no one changes.
If i'm a moron then you can obviously install MythTv and get it going using synaptic....
if you cant, then you too are a MORON.
Can you add the universe and multiverse with synaptic also? i must have missed that option..
Also, when i first turned it on, THIS MORON, had never heard the terms universe and multiverse... i just wanted the apps listed and they werent.
What the hell is with 'dependencies' i just want the thing to install the crap it needs., Synaptic says "certain dependencies are not available".. what then NON-MORON.
I'm not an idiot. I just didnt like having to re-learn command line crapola.
Ive installed ubuntu on my 'old' machine, with the hope of getting Mythtv up and running. Man, what a mission. It reminds me of the old MSDOS days except its now like learning it over, in French.
Once you are able to install everything without having to use the command line it'll be great.
I know some people like the command line, but I'm over it.
Changing the sources.list thing was hard enough the first time. Its ok now i've done it a couple of times, but how about putting it in a front end with some preferences! Sheesh.
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You should install Ubuntu linux on her PC then. If she is just using the web and e-mail, your going to make her safe(er) from viruses and mal-ware. She can turn it on and off again all she likes too. Its not hard to transition either. My non-tech-savvy wife didnt even notice that i'd done anything, I jsut showed her the 'new place to click' for the web and e-mail.
(I also share your grandmothers concern of leaving windows on all the time without rebooting. -it aint good as some windows updates wont be applied and will bog down etc.)
Are you saying you cant trust Firefox because it is open source? Or are you quoting the whole statement?
I think that OpenOffice and FireFox are more trustworthy because they are Open Source. Any programmer (who knows what they are looking at) can examine open-source code for flaws, insecurity, or malicious intent. The same cannot be said for closed source.
You still have to get your open source apps from a reliable source (same as closed source)... I.e You should only download Firefox from Mozilla.com, and OpenOffice from Openoffice.org. That way, you can ensure no-one has added to the s/w (maliciously) and recompiled it for distibution. No differnt than getting some dodgy version of Windows off Limewire only to find its laden with viruses...
Exactly. I'd take the job of monitoring webservers / security camera's etc... Especially if I could do it from that house in the middle of Fiordland, New Zealand. Remote, peacefull. Bliss.
Until I put up a fence at my house people would walk through our yard stepping over the toys and around the garden furniture and BBQ. Its obvious that its our property, but even when we pointed it out ("hey! WTF are you doing there?", They'd have that dumb look of "oh, huh? what? oh, I didnt realize... I was looking for my tennis ball, cat, etc".
My point is that people will go where there are no barriers.
Now I have a fence and a hedge and they step over the hedge. I went outside one Saturday morning and a guy was in our back yard about 3 ft from by bedroom window flying a f*&kin Kite!!!
Those that get through are not spam. Its the internet becoming aware and trying to communicate with you. You are the chosen one.
Yeah. I was in the middle of a Counter Strike:Source session where I was about to get a wicked knife kill... next thing.. pop "do you want to restart now or later" infront of the CS window... T-Dude turns around and pwnes me in the head with dualies..
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Use of comical parody, being your post on
If you wish to make a parody of someones post, we are able to licence this to you at a reasonable cost.
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*I* sure as hell wouldn't pay $250 to sit in a hockey arena and watch a Madonna Concert. For that matter, I wouldn't pay that much to see a music act I really liked.
EXACTLY!!!!!! and because you didnt turn up Madonna blames it on P2P and does not face the fact that she is losing fans to another band...
Check this out:
People start to like an up and coming band thats $50 = Less people at Madonnas concert = "must be stealing music" = Jack up prices even higher for existing fans = lose more fans to cheaper bands = blame it on P2P.
I like what you've said and agree. , I work in the aviation industry and aircraft manufacturers release similar 'patches'. One operator of a certain aircraft (say B747) discovers a crack in a certain part of the wing, or a control cable that is jamming. They report this to Boeing, who then release a service buletin to all the users with all the details, inluding the approprite timeframe with which the inspection / modification must take place and steps required for the repair.
It may be to inspect a part, it may be to ground the fleet and inspect for a major crack or replace a rudder control cable before next flight. ALL the details are provided which allows operators to have enough knowledge to make an educated decision on how many resources to put into fulfilling the service buletin, and if they cant fulfill it in the timeframe, what the risks are.
Without the vendor providing all the information, the end user does not know the risks they are opening themselves up to, and thus the ability to assess if its worth committing (valuable) resources to immeadiatly. An airplane may well require full testing of systems after the repair, perhaps even a test flight to ensure full functionality from before the repair.
In an ideal world, MS would provide all the information required, and IT departments would have unlimited resources to test the patch the second its released before deploying on their 'fleet'. Its not an ideal world, and IT departments dont have those kind of resources. The least MS can do is provide GOOD information to allow IT management to make an assessment of the risk they are exposing themselves and their company to. If MS dont want to give out that infomation, the least the can do is re-grade their criticality of updates. If the can gain the trust of the IT world that a critical patch is critical, and not over use it, that would go someway to providing the IT world with the ability to manage the resources to deploy these updates.
While the analagy to aircraft is not everybodys way of thinking. Know that more and more safety critical systems are using MS products. Would you fly on an 'unpatched' 747? Would you ride on an 'unpatched' subway? Would you like it if the computer that monitors your credit and banking information at the local financial institution is unpatched? What if each case, the patch was not fully explained, deployed in a hurry and the system not fully tested, or not deployed at all? Crash, Crash, Crash. Game over.
I sent a friend of mine an e-mail, and i got an automated response saying that I have to reply to it for the e-mail to get through, it would then add me to his trusted list, or otherwise it would be marked as spam
So how will the 'genuine' banks and other financial institutions / ebay / paypal, react to that e-mail? Most automated emails, have a 'do_not_reply@provider.com' as their reply address...?
I think they overlap. The average household debt includes all the money owed by each household to any financial institution (includes American companies). The national debt is how much money the county owes other countries ( or the world bank). Government spending doesnt run up household debt till they raise the taxes and you have to borrow off your bank to pay them.
they could just name it a different name, more removed from Blackberry (as it uses different technology anyway). I'd pay money to see them call the Chineese product sold in the US "Crackberry", then see RIM cry like a girl "hey! thats our name!..... [thinks] oh no thats right, we dont like that name, quick, we better trademark it anyway...
most people over there [china] do not have enough money for electronic gizmos that nobody needs....
Neither do people in America.... that is why the average household debt is $84,000 and most families average $8,000 on credit cards. Americans cant afford the gadgets they buy, they are just willing to spend someone elses money.
In that sense, China is on a level playing field. They have to compete to pay off American Government officials exactly the same as everyone else. (Tobacco companies, Drug companies, Oil disributers and Defence Industy).
Anyone suggested Google translate?
so your saying if they used three they would've gotten away with it - if it wasnt for those pesky kids!!!
Word up! Right on!
Well, a dance/techno rave is probably more appropriate, but exactly... that is my point...
(Although I dont believe that games influence behaviour - as long as you can tell the difference between what is real and what is not, and know the difference between right and wrong in the real world, you'll be ok. People that take gameplay to the real world are slightly unhinged anyway...
I've said it once, and I'll say it again:
If video games influence our behaviour, then all those years of playing PacMan would have us running around in darkened rooms listening to repetitive music munching on pills...
True. I probably came across the wrong way. I do like ubuntu and have recommended it to friends and colleagues, and would without hesitation install it on my grandmothers PC if needed.
It is a good distro, i guess i was just too impatient and wanted it done. I should be blaming the app that i was trying to install, not ubuntu.
I like the idea of the universe/multiverse thing, at least you can quickly and easily see what is available and not have to go searching for 'potentially dodgy' exe's...
Thank you for making me see the error of my ways.. i'll shut-up now.
Was that Win XP home up to Pro for $8?
or No operating system / Linux up to Win XP Pro for $8
it its the latter.. wow. I really thought dell could push the cost down of there lowest PC's down if they ditched Windows.. but for an extra 8 bucks, no wonder no one changes.
If i'm a moron then you can obviously install MythTv and get it going using synaptic....
if you cant, then you too are a MORON.
Can you add the universe and multiverse with synaptic also? i must have missed that option..
Also, when i first turned it on, THIS MORON, had never heard the terms universe and multiverse... i just wanted the apps listed and they werent.
What the hell is with 'dependencies' i just want the thing to install the crap it needs., Synaptic says "certain dependencies are not available".. what then NON-MORON.
I'm not an idiot. I just didnt like having to re-learn command line crapola.
Nuf said.
Maybe they'll cover it on Law & Order in a few weeks and we'll all know how it works
My thoughts exactly.
I just hope someone posts the sinopsis and outcome at
I hear you and I aggree.
Ive installed ubuntu on my 'old' machine, with the hope of getting Mythtv up and running. Man, what a mission. It reminds me of the old MSDOS days except its now like learning it over, in French.
Once you are able to install everything without having to use the command line it'll be great.
I know some people like the command line, but I'm over it.
Changing the sources.list thing was hard enough the first time. Its ok now i've done it a couple of times, but how about putting it in a front end with some preferences! Sheesh.
you are giving the car manufactures bad ideas....