You will be agreed with by many, many Canadians regarding this. Our refugee policies are under attack internally and have been for a while because we've basically been far too generous to anyone who wants to come here: If you make it to Canadian soil (legally or not) you basically then have all the rights and priviledges of any Canadian, with the same rights to a free trial, healthcare, etc.
Canadians alway seem pissed off if the US media pays too much or not enough attention to them.
The whole point of mentioning the relief efforts in Canada was that while the US media has found no time to mention that (which is totally fine and I wouldn't expect it because it's about helping, not about getting credit for it), they DO find time to mention that the terrorists may have come through Canada, and when they compress the story down into a point, that point stands above all of the rest (despite also hearing that they had New Jersey licenses and they were staying in Portland, Maine: Compress that story down and that gets excluded and it ends up being "Terrorists came from Canada"). No matter what you think the US has a really, really bad habit of always looking externally to throw blame. I'm reading now that these people may have gone to school in the US, and some may actually have been US citizens, but that's just too hard to fathom so look outside the borders and fire up the cruise missiles.
So cool your jets a little. The US media has not mentioned Canada's generous offers since they are little busy right now. BTW they have not much mentioned offers from either countries either.
No they haven't, but then again they don't share thousands of miles of border or the biggest trade relationship with other countries either. Yet I'll guarantee you that when they do mention other countries it will be Germany, or France, etc. (This has already happened already BTW) The US of A is an incredible country and I have a lot of friends there, but if you don't believe that the US tries to understate Canada then you are blind, and when we are given attention it's to mention that terrorists happened to fly through here, or for a journalist to actually ask our Prime Minister if we're GETTING FOOD to stranded airlines on our runways ("Uh, sorry we don't have any extra. They'll have to starve"). That is where the paradox lies: Either ignore us, or don't ignore us, but don't just bring up our name in a negative way.
This is a conversation and I will bring up what I'm noticing as a Canadian (that's the whole conversation), and I apologize if that post wasn't about *YOU*. Personally I usually have no problem with the US media ignoring Canada : We're a small country so really it only makes sense (and conversely obviously we pay a lot of attention to the US: It's a large country hence it plays a big part. No biggie). My problem was that the times I have heard mention of Canada it has been ridiculous: For example I just watched on CNN a reporter interviewing Jean Chretien (the Prime Minister) and he actually asked him if we're getting food to the people on the planes "stranded" here. I mean seriously that question just blows me away. The other time I heard about Canada is in reference to the fact that people who flew out of Boston may have come through Canada: Indeed when the story of all of the information is compressed into a tidbit it ends up ignoring the car, the luggage, Boston, Portland, and ends up being "Terrorists may have gotten into the US from Canada". Perhaps you (and several others obviously) didn't notice this, but I did because it seems like a really bizarre point to make the most important point.
but I'm sad to say that I don't think your statement that `the vast majority are horrified' is accurate
I am not Muslim or of Arab descent, yet this statement is very forboding: There are millions upon millions of Muslims in the world, and to most of the sects suicide is never acceptable. To most of them they may disagree with the US' position in Israel (just like most Jewish people would disagree instantly if the US took the Palestinians side), and that is something that is encouraged in most Western nations because that's what democracy and freedom is all about, but that doesn't mean they support killing anyone or any of these actions. While the media showed small groups of people of Palestinians rejoicing, do you really think these couple of dozen people represent the majority? Secondly remember that these people live in a very unpleasant place and their life is gunfight after gunfight with the Israelis, and many of them have very short lifespans. I don't think they can be used as a fair account of Muslim or Arab beliefs.
Afghanistan has been openly harbouring a known terrorist though, and while people worry about a US over-reaction, really the US has been INCREDIBLY restrained in the past couple of years: The USS Cole, the two US embassies, and the attempt to blow up some or all of the Las Angelas airport during the millenium celebrations. We have no idea what, if any, attacks have been thwarted by intelligence (which is the problem with them: The more successful they are the less they are appreciated).
This is a horrendous situation and I hope most of the people got out of the buildings before the collapse. As a Canadian they might as well have hit Toronto because it feels the same. While the US media has ignored it there have been lines at blood banks across Canada, and every Canadian city has offered to help however they can (and they are actually offering for real. Toronto prepared 15 EMS teams with ambulances and all of the equipment ready to go on NY's request, and our hospitals and air ambulances prepared to take any overflow that might exist).
Having said that it is INCREDIBLY irritating seeing the natural habit of pointing to easy solutions to get the knee jerk solutions : For instance every report has been making a BIG deal about 2 of the people possibly having come from Canada (though strangely apparently they had New Jersey licenses from preliminary reports). Guess what: They flew FROM US airports, and they apparently had UAE passports, so could someone tell me why this "Canadian connection" is given such relevance? Secondly during the attack all attention was immediately placed on international flights despite the fact that the four flights were originating and destined in the US, but of course it's easy to think of foreign airports as lax versus the super secure impenetrable US airports. I just had to get this off my chest because while I would do anything for New York right now, it's hard to tolerate the habit of looking outwards for blame. As a caucasian I really feel for anyone of Middle Eastern descent as all of them are being painted with the same brush and people should remember that not every Muslim is a terrorist, and not every Middle Eastern descended person thinks this is cool: The vast majority are horrified.
Hence the message! Do YOU know how long it takes to evacuate a 120 story building? I have absolutely no clue. I do know that there was roughly an hour or more between the initial strike and the collapse, so I'm hoping many did get out.
1) How long does it take to evacuate one? Presume it's by stairs on the first one given that the elevators were likely blown out of service immediately.
2) Would they have evacuated the first hit building immediately? This sounds absurd but often people seem to have a "whatever" attitude, so I wonder if anyone from there knows if an evacuation started immediately.
3) Would they have simultaneously evacuated the second building? Don't they share a common section at the bottom?
My questions are because I'm unwilling to think that 40,000 people in the building = 40,000 deaths. There was a good period of time between the first plane hitting and the second hitting, and then a period of time before the buildings collapsed. It is my hope that many survived and made it out.
My point was specifically stating that this isn't a "so what", nor am I justifying it or the purpose of it whatsoever: My point is that saying this means nothing is absurd. Personally my gut reaction is that it should be reacted to with an immense military response coupled with highly trained execution squads.
Oh absolutely I agree with this. This absolutely infuriates me and as a Canadian I would do anything for the US right now (such as search and rescue, blood donation, or if it came to it taking up arms). However this changes everything: You can guarantee there'll be a lot of changes in air travel after this.
The purpose of terrorism is to strike fear in the average persons heart : "YOU could be next" is the premise. If you think they've been ineffective doing this then you're insane. Mind you I have no doubt that a lot of bombs will be dropping imminently (presuming it wasn't an internal attack. Internal attacks usually aren't "suicide" attacks though), but to say that these people haven't achieved anything is silly.
Seriously though while it's easy to say you mocked up a 3D model of something, that can be quite difficult to do with complex parts, and or parts with complex interior areas. What I'm curious is if there's a complementary capable 3D scanner in which you can drop a metal/plastic part and it'll create a 3D model...but the part might have interior complexity as well (i.e. not just a sphere rectangle or prism, but rather something like a outer planetary gear, etc).
When I was younger I use to hike through an area of natural land beyond a shooting range: It was staggering to see the shotgun pellets forming a 1"+ thick layer (sounds like an exaggeration but it is not: After many years of use this stuff really adds up) in the ground and streams, and of course as it oxidizes every bit of that is flowing into the groundwater.
I have actually missed legitimate messages that were important because they were lost amist the noise of spams. There is absolutely no question in my mind that effective as soon as possible: All spam (even "opt-in" spam) must contain a header that cannot be modified (perhaps two): "Opt-in advertisement", "Advertisement". Under no conditions may the sender modify this. This should literally be a UN convention that countries sign onto (just like the various other international laws). If Bulevia decides that they don't need to follow it to get the token spammer taxes, they should be cut of/filtered from international pipes. It is bad enough to get sent unsolicited advertisements, but when the senders intentionally mask the subject to pretend that it's a reply, something else, etc. that is criminal in my mind: They're wasting my time. Additionally all spammers must check and obey a universal opt-out list: Not 10,000,000 different lists that ebb and flow to make it convoluted to get yourself off their list.
It is a sad state when everyone has to hide their email addresses because of these scumbags.
Just about every spam I've been getting over the past little bit has about 60% of the body full of disclaimers and justifications for the spam, and it usually indicates that somehow I have "opted-in" to their spam list. My favourite are the ones that include long rambling essays on how you can simply "delete the message" if you don't like it, and that it helped saved trees because the alternative was that they would direct mail: Give me a break. >99% of these shady, quasi-illegal scams (I still gotta pick up the several hundred university diplomas that are waiting for me, and that will earn the respect of family and friends) couldn't garner enough investment to send paper mailings to a small neighbourhood, let alone the millions they indiscriminately spam. And sure it sounds great that I can "just delete it", but when there's thousands of spammers sending out this crap "just deleting" turns into a pretty onerous job.
I am making no comments about a Linux distro, nor am I commenting on whether cars should include brakes: This is purely about Microsoft and their position in the marketplace.
Again the point is that MS REALLY wants to sell "better multimedia, a video recording package, and several other enhancements", but instead of selling the "Microsoft expansion pack" for Windows 98SE and seeing so so sales (not to mention actually having to compete with competitors: Make it stand on its own legs and it's amazing how many of those products would die miserably), they pull the MS monopoly trump card out of the deck and instead sell it as a "new user experience" parading it as a whole new OS: There is no way that the likes of Real, Kodak, etc. can compete with this. Furthermore MS starts the "version" police going to ensure that everyone is forced to upgrade to the latest version and pay their monopoly tax to pay for the development of "better multimedia, a video recording package, and several other enhancements". Therein lies the crunch.
There was a time when I would have agreed with you, but unfortunately I must respectfully disagree: The reason that most people have a problem with Microsoft bundling is that MS is using their monopoly in the desktop space to conquer every other niche of the software industry. Want to take over the home finance market? Spend billions developing a software product which you claim is "free" and then include it for "free" in the upgraded operating system which costs a $149 upgrade fee despite being only marginally different than the previous version (apart from the "free" home finance software). Now turn the screws by setting various completely unnecessary flags in distributed software to only work on said software (thereby FORCING your $149 "free" software on the market). Perhaps make some "Glindos XY Certified!" software monikers that all the hot software distributors want (slashing their own throats in the long run) that basically entails that their software checks if flag=Glindos XY and refuses to run otherwise.
That's the whole problem with all of the "free" software that MS is unleashing upon the world: Absolutely NONE of it is free (except for pirates), and this is proven out by the $10+ billion in profits MS is pulling in. The issue most people have is that MS is taking their position in the OS space and moving out to take over media, browsers, ISPs, etc.
Disclaimer : I am actually a Microsoft apologist. I have sent thousands of messages over the years claiming that Microsoft was being unfairly persecuted, and that it was in the consumers best interest, etc. Unfortunately that is no longer true. Billions of dollars were spent by consumers of the land on "Windows Me" which itself was truly a downgrade of Windows 98SE, so that Microsoft could recoup the cost of all of the "free" products that it has bequeathed upon the land.
After they download Operation Flashpoint (that game, er tactical simulation, absolutely KICKS ASS by the way) off of gnutella I'm sure it helped out their simulations quite a bit and helped "reduce costs".
Wow whose the racist here? Guess what: China and Indian are countries inhabited by Chinese and Indians (BTW: I am a Canadian). My point has nothing to do with race (I think that's remarkably clear) and everything to do with standard of living: People in lower standard of living countries naturally will accept much less (just as they'll accept chemical shops setting up shop and flooding the countryside with pollution: Just give us a penny and we're happy). The problem is when first world countries abuse that turning third world countries into sweat shops.
You're an idiot. Let me give you a piece of advice clown (in sanitation engineering I presume): The next time you pick on someone's grammar or spelling you might want to take a peek at your own barrage of misspelled, barely intelligible collections of dribble.
If you're an engineer (in the intelligence work sense. I presume you're not saying that in the janitorial sense) then you are absolutely ripe for being replaced by the Chinese/Indians, so prepare for downsizing. Intelligence work can almost always be done less expensively in third world countries.
It is intriguing that you refer to my third sentence as "incoherent" because of the lack of a comma given the numerous unmentioned mistakes in your original post. Always funny seeing the pot calling the kettle black.
A huge number of firms have been farming out development work to India, and while the results have largely been dismal, it has been a major asset to management in North America to "put programmers in their place" ("Gee Tom maybe we should farm out our development to India...what's that? We're a pure software company? Oh well it's the management that makes this company!"). I don't doubt that there are a lot of very smart people in India, and I think it's great that they are finding a market in this, but it is sad that the reason that they're competitive is because of the extremely low standard of living that most Indians live in.
The reality, as mentioned in another post, is that with the increasingly wired world there is no reason why almost any job can't be farmed out to countries where the standard of living is so bad that they'll happily take $1/hour: Why not move the HR department to Haiti. Middle management should go to China (oh wait: Middle Management are the people who so often believe themselves to be the heart of the operation...couldn't ever replace THEM...oh hey, they're the MOST replacable), accounting should go to Peru. Hey while we're at it why don't we just undermine the entire basis of the advanced nations and all lower our standard of living to India's, then we'll be hyper competitive!
P.S. I mean no disrespect to India, however the standard of living is significantly lower than North America.
Either you're a fool, or this is an enormous troll. The reality is that ANY job in North America can be done by someone in some shithole country for minimum wage, so please tell us what it is that you do that makes you so down on software developers? This is all simply a decision of whether we want to pull the world up to us (I'm speaking as a North American), or pull ourselves down to other countries and it's amazing how many completely clueless and useless in management and/or sales seem willing to sell out and push us down to third world status.
When I was a young-un I made a throwing star out of an old pizza cutter and it was WICKED (and very accurate): I'd embed it into the wall with ease (thankfully not cutting into the wiring...), though of course I then covered this area with posters.
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You will be agreed with by many, many Canadians regarding this. Our refugee policies are under attack internally and have been for a while because we've basically been far too generous to anyone who wants to come here: If you make it to Canadian soil (legally or not) you basically then have all the rights and priviledges of any Canadian, with the same rights to a free trial, healthcare, etc.
Canadians alway seem pissed off if the US media pays too much or not enough attention to them.
The whole point of mentioning the relief efforts in Canada was that while the US media has found no time to mention that (which is totally fine and I wouldn't expect it because it's about helping, not about getting credit for it), they DO find time to mention that the terrorists may have come through Canada, and when they compress the story down into a point, that point stands above all of the rest (despite also hearing that they had New Jersey licenses and they were staying in Portland, Maine: Compress that story down and that gets excluded and it ends up being "Terrorists came from Canada"). No matter what you think the US has a really, really bad habit of always looking externally to throw blame. I'm reading now that these people may have gone to school in the US, and some may actually have been US citizens, but that's just too hard to fathom so look outside the borders and fire up the cruise missiles.
So cool your jets a little. The US media has not mentioned Canada's generous offers since they are little busy right now. BTW they have not much mentioned offers from either countries either.
No they haven't, but then again they don't share thousands of miles of border or the biggest trade relationship with other countries either. Yet I'll guarantee you that when they do mention other countries it will be Germany, or France, etc. (This has already happened already BTW) The US of A is an incredible country and I have a lot of friends there, but if you don't believe that the US tries to understate Canada then you are blind, and when we are given attention it's to mention that terrorists happened to fly through here, or for a journalist to actually ask our Prime Minister if we're GETTING FOOD to stranded airlines on our runways ("Uh, sorry we don't have any extra. They'll have to starve"). That is where the paradox lies: Either ignore us, or don't ignore us, but don't just bring up our name in a negative way.
This is a conversation and I will bring up what I'm noticing as a Canadian (that's the whole conversation), and I apologize if that post wasn't about *YOU*. Personally I usually have no problem with the US media ignoring Canada : We're a small country so really it only makes sense (and conversely obviously we pay a lot of attention to the US: It's a large country hence it plays a big part. No biggie). My problem was that the times I have heard mention of Canada it has been ridiculous: For example I just watched on CNN a reporter interviewing Jean Chretien (the Prime Minister) and he actually asked him if we're getting food to the people on the planes "stranded" here. I mean seriously that question just blows me away. The other time I heard about Canada is in reference to the fact that people who flew out of Boston may have come through Canada: Indeed when the story of all of the information is compressed into a tidbit it ends up ignoring the car, the luggage, Boston, Portland, and ends up being "Terrorists may have gotten into the US from Canada". Perhaps you (and several others obviously) didn't notice this, but I did because it seems like a really bizarre point to make the most important point.
but I'm sad to say that I don't think your statement that `the vast majority are horrified' is accurate
I am not Muslim or of Arab descent, yet this statement is very forboding: There are millions upon millions of Muslims in the world, and to most of the sects suicide is never acceptable. To most of them they may disagree with the US' position in Israel (just like most Jewish people would disagree instantly if the US took the Palestinians side), and that is something that is encouraged in most Western nations because that's what democracy and freedom is all about, but that doesn't mean they support killing anyone or any of these actions. While the media showed small groups of people of Palestinians rejoicing, do you really think these couple of dozen people represent the majority? Secondly remember that these people live in a very unpleasant place and their life is gunfight after gunfight with the Israelis, and many of them have very short lifespans. I don't think they can be used as a fair account of Muslim or Arab beliefs.
Afghanistan has been openly harbouring a known terrorist though, and while people worry about a US over-reaction, really the US has been INCREDIBLY restrained in the past couple of years: The USS Cole, the two US embassies, and the attempt to blow up some or all of the Las Angelas airport during the millenium celebrations. We have no idea what, if any, attacks have been thwarted by intelligence (which is the problem with them: The more successful they are the less they are appreciated).
This is a horrendous situation and I hope most of the people got out of the buildings before the collapse. As a Canadian they might as well have hit Toronto because it feels the same. While the US media has ignored it there have been lines at blood banks across Canada, and every Canadian city has offered to help however they can (and they are actually offering for real. Toronto prepared 15 EMS teams with ambulances and all of the equipment ready to go on NY's request, and our hospitals and air ambulances prepared to take any overflow that might exist).
Having said that it is INCREDIBLY irritating seeing the natural habit of pointing to easy solutions to get the knee jerk solutions : For instance every report has been making a BIG deal about 2 of the people possibly having come from Canada (though strangely apparently they had New Jersey licenses from preliminary reports). Guess what: They flew FROM US airports, and they apparently had UAE passports, so could someone tell me why this "Canadian connection" is given such relevance? Secondly during the attack all attention was immediately placed on international flights despite the fact that the four flights were originating and destined in the US, but of course it's easy to think of foreign airports as lax versus the super secure impenetrable US airports. I just had to get this off my chest because while I would do anything for New York right now, it's hard to tolerate the habit of looking outwards for blame. As a caucasian I really feel for anyone of Middle Eastern descent as all of them are being painted with the same brush and people should remember that not every Muslim is a terrorist, and not every Middle Eastern descended person thinks this is cool: The vast majority are horrified.
Hence the message! Do YOU know how long it takes to evacuate a 120 story building? I have absolutely no clue. I do know that there was roughly an hour or more between the initial strike and the collapse, so I'm hoping many did get out.
1) How long does it take to evacuate one? Presume it's by stairs on the first one given that the elevators were likely blown out of service immediately.
2) Would they have evacuated the first hit building immediately? This sounds absurd but often people seem to have a "whatever" attitude, so I wonder if anyone from there knows if an evacuation started immediately.
3) Would they have simultaneously evacuated the second building? Don't they share a common section at the bottom?
My questions are because I'm unwilling to think that 40,000 people in the building = 40,000 deaths. There was a good period of time between the first plane hitting and the second hitting, and then a period of time before the buildings collapsed. It is my hope that many survived and made it out.
My point was specifically stating that this isn't a "so what", nor am I justifying it or the purpose of it whatsoever: My point is that saying this means nothing is absurd. Personally my gut reaction is that it should be reacted to with an immense military response coupled with highly trained execution squads.
Oh absolutely I agree with this. This absolutely infuriates me and as a Canadian I would do anything for the US right now (such as search and rescue, blood donation, or if it came to it taking up arms). However this changes everything: You can guarantee there'll be a lot of changes in air travel after this.
The purpose of terrorism is to strike fear in the average persons heart : "YOU could be next" is the premise. If you think they've been ineffective doing this then you're insane. Mind you I have no doubt that a lot of bombs will be dropping imminently (presuming it wasn't an internal attack. Internal attacks usually aren't "suicide" attacks though), but to say that these people haven't achieved anything is silly.
Seriously though while it's easy to say you mocked up a 3D model of something, that can be quite difficult to do with complex parts, and or parts with complex interior areas. What I'm curious is if there's a complementary capable 3D scanner in which you can drop a metal/plastic part and it'll create a 3D model...but the part might have interior complexity as well (i.e. not just a sphere rectangle or prism, but rather something like a outer planetary gear, etc).
When I was younger I use to hike through an area of natural land beyond a shooting range: It was staggering to see the shotgun pellets forming a 1"+ thick layer (sounds like an exaggeration but it is not: After many years of use this stuff really adds up) in the ground and streams, and of course as it oxidizes every bit of that is flowing into the groundwater.
I have actually missed legitimate messages that were important because they were lost amist the noise of spams. There is absolutely no question in my mind that effective as soon as possible: All spam (even "opt-in" spam) must contain a header that cannot be modified (perhaps two): "Opt-in advertisement", "Advertisement". Under no conditions may the sender modify this. This should literally be a UN convention that countries sign onto (just like the various other international laws). If Bulevia decides that they don't need to follow it to get the token spammer taxes, they should be cut of/filtered from international pipes. It is bad enough to get sent unsolicited advertisements, but when the senders intentionally mask the subject to pretend that it's a reply, something else, etc. that is criminal in my mind: They're wasting my time. Additionally all spammers must check and obey a universal opt-out list: Not 10,000,000 different lists that ebb and flow to make it convoluted to get yourself off their list.
It is a sad state when everyone has to hide their email addresses because of these scumbags.
Just about every spam I've been getting over the past little bit has about 60% of the body full of disclaimers and justifications for the spam, and it usually indicates that somehow I have "opted-in" to their spam list. My favourite are the ones that include long rambling essays on how you can simply "delete the message" if you don't like it, and that it helped saved trees because the alternative was that they would direct mail: Give me a break. >99% of these shady, quasi-illegal scams (I still gotta pick up the several hundred university diplomas that are waiting for me, and that will earn the respect of family and friends) couldn't garner enough investment to send paper mailings to a small neighbourhood, let alone the millions they indiscriminately spam. And sure it sounds great that I can "just delete it", but when there's thousands of spammers sending out this crap "just deleting" turns into a pretty onerous job.
I am making no comments about a Linux distro, nor am I commenting on whether cars should include brakes: This is purely about Microsoft and their position in the marketplace.
Again the point is that MS REALLY wants to sell "better multimedia, a video recording package, and several other enhancements", but instead of selling the "Microsoft expansion pack" for Windows 98SE and seeing so so sales (not to mention actually having to compete with competitors: Make it stand on its own legs and it's amazing how many of those products would die miserably), they pull the MS monopoly trump card out of the deck and instead sell it as a "new user experience" parading it as a whole new OS: There is no way that the likes of Real, Kodak, etc. can compete with this. Furthermore MS starts the "version" police going to ensure that everyone is forced to upgrade to the latest version and pay their monopoly tax to pay for the development of "better multimedia, a video recording package, and several other enhancements". Therein lies the crunch.
There was a time when I would have agreed with you, but unfortunately I must respectfully disagree: The reason that most people have a problem with Microsoft bundling is that MS is using their monopoly in the desktop space to conquer every other niche of the software industry. Want to take over the home finance market? Spend billions developing a software product which you claim is "free" and then include it for "free" in the upgraded operating system which costs a $149 upgrade fee despite being only marginally different than the previous version (apart from the "free" home finance software). Now turn the screws by setting various completely unnecessary flags in distributed software to only work on said software (thereby FORCING your $149 "free" software on the market). Perhaps make some "Glindos XY Certified!" software monikers that all the hot software distributors want (slashing their own throats in the long run) that basically entails that their software checks if flag=Glindos XY and refuses to run otherwise.
That's the whole problem with all of the "free" software that MS is unleashing upon the world: Absolutely NONE of it is free (except for pirates), and this is proven out by the $10+ billion in profits MS is pulling in. The issue most people have is that MS is taking their position in the OS space and moving out to take over media, browsers, ISPs, etc.
Disclaimer : I am actually a Microsoft apologist. I have sent thousands of messages over the years claiming that Microsoft was being unfairly persecuted, and that it was in the consumers best interest, etc. Unfortunately that is no longer true. Billions of dollars were spent by consumers of the land on "Windows Me" which itself was truly a downgrade of Windows 98SE, so that Microsoft could recoup the cost of all of the "free" products that it has bequeathed upon the land.
After they download Operation Flashpoint (that game, er tactical simulation, absolutely KICKS ASS by the way) off of gnutella I'm sure it helped out their simulations quite a bit and helped "reduce costs".
BTW: Don't pirate. If you like the game: buy it.
Wow whose the racist here? Guess what: China and Indian are countries inhabited by Chinese and Indians (BTW: I am a Canadian). My point has nothing to do with race (I think that's remarkably clear) and everything to do with standard of living: People in lower standard of living countries naturally will accept much less (just as they'll accept chemical shops setting up shop and flooding the countryside with pollution: Just give us a penny and we're happy). The problem is when first world countries abuse that turning third world countries into sweat shops.
You're an idiot. Let me give you a piece of advice clown (in sanitation engineering I presume): The next time you pick on someone's grammar or spelling you might want to take a peek at your own barrage of misspelled, barely intelligible collections of dribble.
If you're an engineer (in the intelligence work sense. I presume you're not saying that in the janitorial sense) then you are absolutely ripe for being replaced by the Chinese/Indians, so prepare for downsizing. Intelligence work can almost always be done less expensively in third world countries.
It is intriguing that you refer to my third sentence as "incoherent" because of the lack of a comma given the numerous unmentioned mistakes in your original post. Always funny seeing the pot calling the kettle black.
A huge number of firms have been farming out development work to India, and while the results have largely been dismal, it has been a major asset to management in North America to "put programmers in their place" ("Gee Tom maybe we should farm out our development to India...what's that? We're a pure software company? Oh well it's the management that makes this company!"). I don't doubt that there are a lot of very smart people in India, and I think it's great that they are finding a market in this, but it is sad that the reason that they're competitive is because of the extremely low standard of living that most Indians live in.
The reality, as mentioned in another post, is that with the increasingly wired world there is no reason why almost any job can't be farmed out to countries where the standard of living is so bad that they'll happily take $1/hour: Why not move the HR department to Haiti. Middle management should go to China (oh wait: Middle Management are the people who so often believe themselves to be the heart of the operation...couldn't ever replace THEM...oh hey, they're the MOST replacable), accounting should go to Peru. Hey while we're at it why don't we just undermine the entire basis of the advanced nations and all lower our standard of living to India's, then we'll be hyper competitive!
P.S. I mean no disrespect to India, however the standard of living is significantly lower than North America.
Either you're a fool, or this is an enormous troll. The reality is that ANY job in North America can be done by someone in some shithole country for minimum wage, so please tell us what it is that you do that makes you so down on software developers? This is all simply a decision of whether we want to pull the world up to us (I'm speaking as a North American), or pull ourselves down to other countries and it's amazing how many completely clueless and useless in management and/or sales seem willing to sell out and push us down to third world status.
Wow Trumpet is still around? Is that the same Trumpet Winsock people?
When I was a young-un I made a throwing star out of an old pizza cutter and it was WICKED (and very accurate): I'd embed it into the wall with ease (thankfully not cutting into the wiring...), though of course I then covered this area with posters.