I'm interested in what was going on 2006-2010 when games were being released as art. Small indie games with floating glowing objects, very non traditional game play, beautiful surreal aesthetics. I can't think of a single reference. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Well, parent was about the best post I read. Confirmed my doubts about not splitting up the installations... I guess this is my best option at this moment in time, so here we go. Thanks Slashdot, thanks Zmobie.
Not only that, he's asking the wrong forum. If you have questions about all these Microsoft technologies, why not go to the experts at Microsoft and ask them? That's what you're paying all that money for with that MSDN account. I'm sure they'll be happy to advise you on how to proceed.
If you can't afford an MSDN account, then you really have no business doing MS development work. If you're working with MS technologies at work, they're supposed to provide that stuff for you.
Well, they gave all that stuff away for free when I was in college. I had every thing I could ever want and fully functional software and immense support from MS reps and faculty, and now it's been a few years and I don't have all that.
I don't see the harm in asking how other people configure a development environment in their home. I couldn't make up my mind, so I couldn't act. Reading the responses will inevitably bias me to favor one option over another. This is the perfect forum to get that information, however ignorant or primitive or unprofessional my question is. I know I'm stupid. I know I should know how to do this and be able to do this. Hence ask Slashdot.
The problem is that when you start installing dev tools, you end up with system services installed.
If you're using a computer for any significant music production you should probably make sure that it's only used for that. You don't want some bullshit printer driver or Java trying to run an update while you're recording & ruining the take.
Right. Getting the machine set up for music production was enough trouble the first time around.
Why does Slashdot marvel at this? The technology to create these tunnels is nothing new, in fact, Slashdot has featured all kinds of stories in the past concerning Mexican cartels involving no impressive technological acheivement, so... why does Slashdot keep running these stories? What is so worthy of news here? What are the cartels doing that hasn't already been done and why does slashdot pay them so much attention for doing it??
How about this: Run a story about the technology being developed to thwart these maniacs, eh? I only got spied on today. The cartels only just killed some innocent mother's young son, and two dozen more like him today. Murder is their technology. Surely the good guys deserve some press here as well, Slashdot?
For 2,000 years the human nose (standard equipment on most humans) was not the correct way to detect foul and spoiled milk? We were drinking bad milk the whole time, or what? My bad milk detector? No production cost, and zero use cost.
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You know, the field that verifies theories without experiments? How many experiment designs are published that conclude the only outcome of the experiment, hypothetically speaking, without real world results? Photons that split into alternate dimensions (carrying energy with them) and also send messages backwards in time, it's all on paper and considered fact, but no experiments have been done to prove it... does that now sound like craziness to anyone but me?
Sometimes our clients are mom and pop shops. Right now I'm working with the county whose budget for software alone is $800 this fiscal year, $4,000 for hardware. That's the budget for the county department I'm with. Fortunately the consulting budget is any dollars, so I can offset the cost of upgrading their software with that, but still.... Not everyone you work with understands the benefit of running an up to date setup.
1) Where the heck did they hide the option to set which version of.NET I want to target for my build? Argh.
2) what's a good free code editor or IDE for C# or F# that still does projects/solutions, source control (maybe), and let's me control the resource and assembly files on my own as well as regulate the build process too (i.e. command-line or integrated build tool)? cos I'm not liking 2013 or 2012 VS and MSbuild that MS offers right now is for 4.5.1x only. What if I want to compile a single source file and I don't want the stupid dev command line or MSbuild to do it for me?
He can't interfere with the operation of a school. Those laws are applied hundreds of times each day by schools across the country. That's why you can get sent to the office for being disruptive. At the very least, that's what this is, it is disruptive. And also possibly intimidating. It's not much different when gangsters drive past you with the the trigger-finger gesture. Be honest. Would you feel threatened if your classmate were drawing pictures of you dead? Don't lie. Would you feel threatened if your classmate celebrated images of your fictional death by sharing them with others? Liar. Yes you would. That's why this kid is getting punished, and he should be.
Something else to think about: Some people respond to apparently credible threats to personal safety with preemptive violent strikes of their own....
The method outlined by Doctorow in the linked article would not work, and here is why.
1) They (the government) consider not only the speech of disclosure, but the intent to disclose, and probably therefore the means of conveying the message that constitutes an act of disclosure. When an actual NSL is issued, I would bet the method described in this article could be regarded as an act of disclosure by way of clandestine communication. You would get in trouble for doing this if you were subject to a NSL gag order.
2) Doctorow's method is more particular than the Librarian's method. It actually does involve arrangement of a designee to receive information specifically related to government intel queries. It plainly establishes both intent and expressly indicates means to convey the state of intel inquiries to special parties. The DMS cannot be restrained from publishing anything, but those receiving the gag order conceivably could be prosecuted for communicating with the DMS service.
Finally, and most importantly, the agencies already note that disruption of electronic communication services (like account suspension, website shutdowns, and so on) can be regarded as signals to special parties that an investigation is under way. So, they (the NSA, FBI, whoever) forbid peculiar irregularities in habits of service when they issue nondisclosures. As far as Doctorow's method is concerned, you would likely be prohibited from failing to update your information to the dead-mans-switch in any way other than routine so as not to indicate you have been asked to provide intel information. See, you're providing a service to the DMS, disruption of which service might reveal a security investigation is underway: you can't do that, and they say so in their letters.
Look, I'm not writing about whether it is right or wrong for the NSA to do this, nor whether it is right or wrong for us to expose these situations. I'm just saying, it may seem like a cute little language game for solo citizens, but real companies can't afford to violate a NSL or any other gag order, and that's why they don't do it, plain and simple. The language of the law is pretty clear about why disclosure is prohibited, and violating that law looks to have some pretty severe consequences. Especially if the FBI or NSA or whoever is right when they say that disclosure is a threat to security, and then you're in a world of hurt because your unnecessary expression of speech actually did jeaopardize an investigation where intelligence of a credible threat was real. That's why currently it's up to the courts to remove a gag order, which they can do, if the NSL is BS. Your right to speech is intact; it just has to be reviewed and upheld before you can exercise it. Wait... that doesn't sound right...
However, while the article's method is dubious I think its underlying premise is worthy of further examination. You've tried to find a way to hide the fact of disclosure, or at least put it into legal safe zone. That won't work. Perhaps find a way to hide intent of disclosure?
Please, enough about this guy already. Everyone knows there are way worse violation of human rights in the world perpetrated by far worse governments than our own against people who will NEVER have a chance to escape, so why are we giving this guy so much attention? He wants to goto countries with civil rights abuse records so astonishing and atrocious, it makes America look like an oasis in a desert! Sure, but the NSA, etc. etc. Yea, well you have running water, clothes, a car, job or prospects, food, shelter, health, medicine, a family, a right to vote, and after all that upset over the NSA, hey, you didn't stop using the internet or your phone. So they must not be wrecking your human rights that much, and I'm led to believe you can't be that affected or distrubed by it, so maybe be quiet about it ok? Your actions speak louder than your words. If you are so paranoid and you feel like your rights are so infringed, what are you doing readling slashdot online on a saturday morning or afternoon? Shouldn't you be sweeping your house for bugs, building a bunker maybe, and calling all your representatives in washington?
Meanwhile, our fingers are not enough to count the list of real human rights tragedies occurring elsewhere in the world right now, but hey, this Snowden guy, yea, he's the person whose rights are in the utmost peril here.
I don't want to pay $32 USD for the paper. Am I the only one who can't figure out what they proved and how? The paper's abstract doesn't help much to balance the media's interpretation.
This isn't news. It's been MS strategy for ages to give discounts to public and private organizations. It's a fine strategy. and it's not like Apple in the 80's because Apple software back then didn't run on a thousand different devices from a thousand different vendors, each potentially offering different features than the others, without breaking my existing software "ecosystem".
I don't want ANYONE to think it's EVER ethically or legally justifiable to bug my personal residence, or the personal residence of anyone else.
How do people like this activist justify it for themselves, but disallow it for everyone else? You don't want to be spied on, but you can do some spying yourself?
Intuitively I don't think that would be useful in the long term. I think they would get *some* data from edge cases, as people shift from one demographic to the other, but for the most part, they wouldn't get good data from the demographic as a whole. I mean, I only seek out or tolerate variation to my recreational media sources when that source is no longer an option or I become suddenly disinterested and need a change. Like my music tastes have varied consistent along with my age consistent with most demarcations of marketing demographics used by the industry.
I listened to punk ages 15-18. I listened to youth crew ages 18-22. I listened to metalcore 22-26. Now I listen to emo-rock. A lot of models say these age groups are when genre interests do not change, but that those who go from one group to the other, their genre interests DO change. When I was 20, do you think I would have ever sought out emo-rock? I don't go out of my way to discover new stuff when I'm settled in the middle of my demographic. I've already got my tv line-up figured out for the week. Why go pilot voting? What's my incentive? Why give up my already valuable time? How often do your entertainment needs change?
Besides, TV is not like movies and books. I have never been captivated by a single TV episode, but I have thoroughly rejected a lot of series based on a single episode. I've also thought a series was worthless but after repeated exposure I became a fan. Now, books, I can always tell if I'm going to like something within a few pages. I can always tell with movies whether I've made a mistake.
You might say that the episodic novel strategy on Amazon is similar to TV series' production and distribution, but I disagree. Just think: TV shows utilize multiple directors, writers, producers, plotlines, cast, character, setting (depending on the type of show); it's unpredictable, what draws us to books is cohesive of some element, like a character development or continuing conflict waiting to be resolved. A lot of tv series can make fans based on viewing a randomly selected episode; cohesion may be a necessary element of tv show, but it is not the primary draw.
I'm sure their house mathematicians, psychologists, risk managers, and marketers have already told the execs that it won't work. Hopefully their outside consultants also will agree.
So what you're saying is that voice to text systems don't allow me to say "nah mean nah'm saying" like i would with everybody else in the car. great. then fucking give me a call and dont text me, fool, and also when I pull up I'm the grey not the silver silverando and you need exact change, brotha and keep your friends aside less they got scrilla i don't care to know they name does they got scrilla? doesn't matter fool, who texts a dealer en route, fool, that shit is dangerous, and doesn't nah what the fuck i mean, definitely doesn't nah what the fuck i mean, so here's your phone, here is your face, I know, i know, i know the phone is in shambles, and it seems a damn shame your face does not match. Leroy take this subhuman away from me, and make him and his friends reach a state where they understand the state of their phones, and they understand the risk of texting to me while i'm already on the mobile. Leroy, Leroy, please. Leave them alive at least. Oh, Leroy, the UN should be stopping you once you have a go at it, yea? Listen we werent here, goodbye, Sam was it? Doesn't matter don't text me while I drive I know it won't happen now...
My parents' ISP issued router came down with a case of malware. The ISP kept putting them into walled-garden claiming botnet activity, and after months and months of this, I intervened. upon my investigation (which also took months) and thanks to their reluctant but cooperative security team, we determined it was not the only connected device that had the malware, but the router itself. And only because I "hacked" into it at some point and observed the malware in action, and reported my results back to the ISP. I thought my method (though it required some circumvention) was an intentional feature of the router. I didn't realize it was a vulnerability. Not at the time. I mean how do they remotely configure your router while on call or live chat with them? How can they expect me to think I can't do the same thing myself?
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I'm interested in what was going on 2006-2010 when games were being released as art. Small indie games with floating glowing objects, very non traditional game play, beautiful surreal aesthetics. I can't think of a single reference. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Well, parent was about the best post I read. Confirmed my doubts about not splitting up the installations... I guess this is my best option at this moment in time, so here we go. Thanks Slashdot, thanks Zmobie.
Not only that, he's asking the wrong forum. If you have questions about all these Microsoft technologies, why not go to the experts at Microsoft and ask them? That's what you're paying all that money for with that MSDN account. I'm sure they'll be happy to advise you on how to proceed.
If you can't afford an MSDN account, then you really have no business doing MS development work. If you're working with MS technologies at work, they're supposed to provide that stuff for you.
Well, they gave all that stuff away for free when I was in college. I had every thing I could ever want and fully functional software and immense support from MS reps and faculty, and now it's been a few years and I don't have all that.
I don't see the harm in asking how other people configure a development environment in their home. I couldn't make up my mind, so I couldn't act. Reading the responses will inevitably bias me to favor one option over another. This is the perfect forum to get that information, however ignorant or primitive or unprofessional my question is. I know I'm stupid. I know I should know how to do this and be able to do this. Hence ask Slashdot.
The problem is that when you start installing dev tools, you end up with system services installed.
If you're using a computer for any significant music production you should probably make sure that it's only used for that. You don't want some bullshit printer driver or Java trying to run an update while you're recording & ruining the take.
Right. Getting the machine set up for music production was enough trouble the first time around.
They don't take up resources when they're not running...
Well, ... now I know...
I don't know if this is a good application of the word "rationality".
Why does Slashdot marvel at this? The technology to create these tunnels is nothing new, in fact, Slashdot has featured all kinds of stories in the past concerning Mexican cartels involving no impressive technological acheivement, so... why does Slashdot keep running these stories? What is so worthy of news here? What are the cartels doing that hasn't already been done and why does slashdot pay them so much attention for doing it??
How about this: Run a story about the technology being developed to thwart these maniacs, eh? I only got spied on today. The cartels only just killed some innocent mother's young son, and two dozen more like him today. Murder is their technology. Surely the good guys deserve some press here as well, Slashdot?
For 2,000 years the human nose (standard equipment on most humans) was not the correct way to detect foul and spoiled milk? We were drinking bad milk the whole time, or what? My bad milk detector? No production cost, and zero use cost.
You know, the field that verifies theories without experiments? How many experiment designs are published that conclude the only outcome of the experiment, hypothetically speaking, without real world results? Photons that split into alternate dimensions (carrying energy with them) and also send messages backwards in time, it's all on paper and considered fact, but no experiments have been done to prove it... does that now sound like craziness to anyone but me?
Sometimes our clients are mom and pop shops. Right now I'm working with the county whose budget for software alone is $800 this fiscal year, $4,000 for hardware. That's the budget for the county department I'm with. Fortunately the consulting budget is any dollars, so I can offset the cost of upgrading their software with that, but still.... Not everyone you work with understands the benefit of running an up to date setup.
EOT right here everyone. Solutions already exist, these novel approaches are unnecessary.
I also find myself having to use 2.0 a lot too.
1) Where the heck did they hide the option to set which version of .NET I want to target for my build? Argh.
2) what's a good free code editor or IDE for C# or F# that still does projects/solutions, source control (maybe), and let's me control the resource and assembly files on my own as well as regulate the build process too (i.e. command-line or integrated build tool)? cos I'm not liking 2013 or 2012 VS and MSbuild that MS offers right now is for 4.5.1x only. What if I want to compile a single source file and I don't want the stupid dev command line or MSbuild to do it for me?
He can't interfere with the operation of a school. Those laws are applied hundreds of times each day by schools across the country. That's why you can get sent to the office for being disruptive. At the very least, that's what this is, it is disruptive. And also possibly intimidating. It's not much different when gangsters drive past you with the the trigger-finger gesture. Be honest. Would you feel threatened if your classmate were drawing pictures of you dead? Don't lie. Would you feel threatened if your classmate celebrated images of your fictional death by sharing them with others? Liar. Yes you would. That's why this kid is getting punished, and he should be.
Something else to think about: Some people respond to apparently credible threats to personal safety with preemptive violent strikes of their own. ...
The method outlined by Doctorow in the linked article would not work, and here is why.
1) They (the government) consider not only the speech of disclosure, but the intent to disclose, and probably therefore the means of conveying the message that constitutes an act of disclosure. When an actual NSL is issued, I would bet the method described in this article could be regarded as an act of disclosure by way of clandestine communication. You would get in trouble for doing this if you were subject to a NSL gag order.
2) Doctorow's method is more particular than the Librarian's method. It actually does involve arrangement of a designee to receive information specifically related to government intel queries. It plainly establishes both intent and expressly indicates means to convey the state of intel inquiries to special parties. The DMS cannot be restrained from publishing anything, but those receiving the gag order conceivably could be prosecuted for communicating with the DMS service.
Finally, and most importantly, the agencies already note that disruption of electronic communication services (like account suspension, website shutdowns, and so on) can be regarded as signals to special parties that an investigation is under way. So, they (the NSA, FBI, whoever) forbid peculiar irregularities in habits of service when they issue nondisclosures. As far as Doctorow's method is concerned, you would likely be prohibited from failing to update your information to the dead-mans-switch in any way other than routine so as not to indicate you have been asked to provide intel information. See, you're providing a service to the DMS, disruption of which service might reveal a security investigation is underway: you can't do that, and they say so in their letters.
Look, I'm not writing about whether it is right or wrong for the NSA to do this, nor whether it is right or wrong for us to expose these situations. I'm just saying, it may seem like a cute little language game for solo citizens, but real companies can't afford to violate a NSL or any other gag order, and that's why they don't do it, plain and simple. The language of the law is pretty clear about why disclosure is prohibited, and violating that law looks to have some pretty severe consequences. Especially if the FBI or NSA or whoever is right when they say that disclosure is a threat to security, and then you're in a world of hurt because your unnecessary expression of speech actually did jeaopardize an investigation where intelligence of a credible threat was real. That's why currently it's up to the courts to remove a gag order, which they can do, if the NSL is BS. Your right to speech is intact; it just has to be reviewed and upheld before you can exercise it. Wait... that doesn't sound right...
However, while the article's method is dubious I think its underlying premise is worthy of further examination. You've tried to find a way to hide the fact of disclosure, or at least put it into legal safe zone. That won't work. Perhaps find a way to hide intent of disclosure?
Please, enough about this guy already. Everyone knows there are way worse violation of human rights in the world perpetrated by far worse governments than our own against people who will NEVER have a chance to escape, so why are we giving this guy so much attention? He wants to goto countries with civil rights abuse records so astonishing and atrocious, it makes America look like an oasis in a desert! Sure, but the NSA, etc. etc. Yea, well you have running water, clothes, a car, job or prospects, food, shelter, health, medicine, a family, a right to vote, and after all that upset over the NSA, hey, you didn't stop using the internet or your phone. So they must not be wrecking your human rights that much, and I'm led to believe you can't be that affected or distrubed by it, so maybe be quiet about it ok? Your actions speak louder than your words. If you are so paranoid and you feel like your rights are so infringed, what are you doing readling slashdot online on a saturday morning or afternoon? Shouldn't you be sweeping your house for bugs, building a bunker maybe, and calling all your representatives in washington?
Meanwhile, our fingers are not enough to count the list of real human rights tragedies occurring elsewhere in the world right now, but hey, this Snowden guy, yea, he's the person whose rights are in the utmost peril here.
I don't want to pay $32 USD for the paper. Am I the only one who can't figure out what they proved and how? The paper's abstract doesn't help much to balance the media's interpretation.
This isn't news. It's been MS strategy for ages to give discounts to public and private organizations. It's a fine strategy. and it's not like Apple in the 80's because Apple software back then didn't run on a thousand different devices from a thousand different vendors, each potentially offering different features than the others, without breaking my existing software "ecosystem".
I don't want ANYONE to think it's EVER ethically or legally justifiable to bug my personal residence, or the personal residence of anyone else.
How do people like this activist justify it for themselves, but disallow it for everyone else? You don't want to be spied on, but you can do some spying yourself?
It might be able to withstand the wind, but what about flying cows and other debris carried by the wind?
Intuitively I don't think that would be useful in the long term. I think they would get *some* data from edge cases, as people shift from one demographic to the other, but for the most part, they wouldn't get good data from the demographic as a whole. I mean, I only seek out or tolerate variation to my recreational media sources when that source is no longer an option or I become suddenly disinterested and need a change. Like my music tastes have varied consistent along with my age consistent with most demarcations of marketing demographics used by the industry.
I listened to punk ages 15-18. I listened to youth crew ages 18-22. I listened to metalcore 22-26. Now I listen to emo-rock. A lot of models say these age groups are when genre interests do not change, but that those who go from one group to the other, their genre interests DO change. When I was 20, do you think I would have ever sought out emo-rock? I don't go out of my way to discover new stuff when I'm settled in the middle of my demographic. I've already got my tv line-up figured out for the week. Why go pilot voting? What's my incentive? Why give up my already valuable time? How often do your entertainment needs change?
Besides, TV is not like movies and books. I have never been captivated by a single TV episode, but I have thoroughly rejected a lot of series based on a single episode. I've also thought a series was worthless but after repeated exposure I became a fan. Now, books, I can always tell if I'm going to like something within a few pages. I can always tell with movies whether I've made a mistake.
You might say that the episodic novel strategy on Amazon is similar to TV series' production and distribution, but I disagree. Just think: TV shows utilize multiple directors, writers, producers, plotlines, cast, character, setting (depending on the type of show); it's unpredictable, what draws us to books is cohesive of some element, like a character development or continuing conflict waiting to be resolved. A lot of tv series can make fans based on viewing a randomly selected episode; cohesion may be a necessary element of tv show, but it is not the primary draw.
I'm sure their house mathematicians, psychologists, risk managers, and marketers have already told the execs that it won't work. Hopefully their outside consultants also will agree.
So what you're saying is that voice to text systems don't allow me to say "nah mean nah'm saying" like i would with everybody else in the car. great. then fucking give me a call and dont text me, fool, and also when I pull up I'm the grey not the silver silverando and you need exact change, brotha and keep your friends aside less they got scrilla i don't care to know they name does they got scrilla? doesn't matter fool, who texts a dealer en route, fool, that shit is dangerous, and doesn't nah what the fuck i mean, definitely doesn't nah what the fuck i mean, so here's your phone, here is your face, I know, i know, i know the phone is in shambles, and it seems a damn shame your face does not match. Leroy take this subhuman away from me, and make him and his friends reach a state where they understand the state of their phones, and they understand the risk of texting to me while i'm already on the mobile. Leroy, Leroy, please. Leave them alive at least. Oh, Leroy, the UN should be stopping you once you have a go at it, yea? Listen we werent here, goodbye, Sam was it? Doesn't matter don't text me while I drive I know it won't happen now...
Please, do expound as to why your stated fact is important here.
My parents' ISP issued router came down with a case of malware. The ISP kept putting them into walled-garden claiming botnet activity, and after months and months of this, I intervened. upon my investigation (which also took months) and thanks to their reluctant but cooperative security team, we determined it was not the only connected device that had the malware, but the router itself. And only because I "hacked" into it at some point and observed the malware in action, and reported my results back to the ISP. I thought my method (though it required some circumvention) was an intentional feature of the router. I didn't realize it was a vulnerability. Not at the time. I mean how do they remotely configure your router while on call or live chat with them? How can they expect me to think I can't do the same thing myself?
don't mess around, don't fool around, don't look around and don't back down!
/oblig ninety pound wuss reference. emoviolence that fueled those 18 hour coding sessions in my youth!