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How sad. I never even had a C-64 when a youngster. I had to learn machine code on a Dragon 32 (6809 processor so not so bad!)
But still, I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one.
Quoth: "Next they'll be demanding fees for listening to the radio while driving to work. The publishing industry will stop at nothing to fraudulently demand fees for others' works."
Hey! Have you been listening in to our strategy planning meetings? That's breaking our copyright, y'know!
Since it used the scientific method? Don't take my word for it - try reading some papers on working memory, psychophysics or the statistics of psychometrics to realise that psychs have to have a stronger understanding of the scientific method than most other scientists. FYI, read the real papers not the type of nonsense that comes from critical analysis.
Quoth: "So why aren't we all wearing goggles (and wearing spandex) and looking like the characters in "The Lawnmower Man"? Is it because micro-displays never got good enough? Or something else?"
Because Apple haven't released a product with it causing all competitors to shit themselves?
Don't assume that ideologues about abortion are all pro-lifers. I've met quite a few pro-choicers who are ideologues (public example, Polly Toynbee, a noted Guardian writer, admitting that women have the perfect right to demand an abortion minutes before normal time of birth). The justification is that an unborn child is part of the woman's body and has no rights even if it is perfectly capable of living independently (and would be doing so within minutes). This is when the unborn child does feel pain, has as much sentience as any new born, and is about to have an existence independent of the mother.
I am a scientist - I have a PhD from a 5* dept rated highest in research in the UK - which (assuming the validity of the RAEs) puts it as one of the best in the world. This included authors published in Nature and even a Fellow of the Royal Society (who chaired my PhD - and fell asleep!).
But when I was younger, I used to play rugby. I could go out drinking with friends, form good relationships with the opposite sex, have lots of friends and have a generally great time. Now, I have my own successful business and make lots of money.
So I would criticise your complaint in two ways.
1) Why are you drawing people into a dichotomy of two groups - intellectuals (the geeks who do science) and the non-intellectuals (everyone else who do sports / liberal arts) when there are many people who qualify for both groups according to your definition.
2) Why do you insist that intellectuals are incapable of sporting / social activities?
Your attitude is one of the most frustrating aspects of those who consider themselves 'geeks' - it's the snobbishness and arrogant belief that being a geek (of your definition) is superior. You really need to get out more and start living some real life. Do you realise that intelligent people out there exist who really enjoy sports and being sociable?
I can't help but feel that your biggest problem is yourself. It may be that you just don't realise that you are socially difficult to deal with, more so than you find everyone else difficult to deal with. We all had to learn that the world won't conform exactly to our desires, we had to adapt, change and learn how to deal with it. Why should you be different? I doubt you're any more intelligent than many people who deal successfully with it, despite your false dichotomy.
The most intelligent people I know also participate well in sports and have great social lives.
Son, just learn to be human. It's what you are and there's a life out there to be lived. Try to see the world from other people's point of view and remember that they can quite easily be right about things and that you're intrinsically no better than anyone else.
I saw Ghandi speak once. All I could focus on was this skinny little guy with glasses (with glasses?!) and an adult nappy standing at the front drinking nothing. I lost interest in him from then on too.
Lynx? You pussy. I use wget and parse the HTML with my *eyes* cos I'm so hard and cool and geeky, so git awf my lawn you nancy-boy and prance around with your new iPad somewhere else.
Eeeh, nobbut like when I were young though, I used tut paper cards and tape... Eee, it were grand!
Sorry for responding to myself but I should point out that $2000 for a laptop that I *know* lets me do any day job I can get is worth way more. $2000? That's 3 days work. I can lose more than that by only having a PC.
Pro-creativity: this isn't just pro-photography but anyone chained by work reasons to stuff like Adobe CS suite. Yeah it's crap but you try convincing clients that they need to change software for their entire workflow and see how long you keep the client.
btw, I know CSX is on Windows but I've had to work at places that used only OSX software but never at places with PC only software. It's a business decision, plain and simple. I'd prefer using Slackware on a custom power-monster (used for my NLP research side-line) but I'm not the one paying for my time and knowledge.
I think the GP meant that OS X and Linux have reasonably effective (opinions may differ on how effective) GUI sitting on top of a Unix or Unix-like system. All the Unix tools are there on the command line if wanted in both systems, but the GUI can be more useful to most folks because they can explore for things (like how to change network) rather than having to sit down and read a man page (because I'm sure that only the minority of people want to have that knowledge - most just want it to work).
The problem is that the minute there is even the slightest sign of 'western' involvement, it plays into the hands of the incumbents. Gadaffi can point to the sky and say, "Look! They are bombing us". There does not have to be a single piece of truth in it - the cry alone will be listened to. The US has has too many dealing with Gadaffi to be trusted by anyone there. The US is despised and has no moral authority as far as the Libyans (and most Arabs) are concerned. involvement will likely result in things getting worse.
Libya is going through a revolution and I hope for Libya's sake that it is over quickly and that they can establish a political and economic that they like (which is harder than the battle). Many countries have been through this: Britain had bloody civil wars, the US had its war of independence, and so on. You can't 'give' independence to anyone - they have to take it for themselves otherwise they are not independent.
If you want to be on the side of good, then recognise that it's their problem to sort out. But be ready to help if a stable and decent system is established and they ask for help. Then, give them what they ask for and no more, then back off and leave them to work out their new country.
Yes, we are going to be in the ME for a long time. It's time that all western govts began to re-establish respect (which will take a long time, believe me), and the best way to do this is to this is to be on the side of good which right now means backing off.
Proviso: Am not OP
1. Very few people actively seek approval - it's a social thing with subtle cues. You may not notice or care but lots do. Either way, it's getting OT. I don't by macs for approval. With my way of thinking, busting open a plain laptop with Slackware would be the coolest thing but it doesn't really matter to me.
2a. Yes I would if I was sure they would work as well. Sign me up!
2b. You could. I wouldn't because:
2b i. I might want to resell it - yeah, I'm sure you'd be happy to buy a scratched computer but most people would want a discount. My aim would be to maximise the sale. Therefore, I try to treat my goods (not just Apple computers) carefully so that I can sell for as much as possible.
2b ii. I couldn't be arsed to waste my time in doing this. If the logo was a sticker, then maybe (I've removed many 'made for Windows' -type stickers, but scratching off a logo just to prove your point - it sounds like Adrian Mole and friends wearing red socks under normal socks as a protest. Like the GP said, would you buy a car and then spend hours scratching off all the manufacturers identifying marks. People who do this are far more concerned about "image" than those who don't give a monkeys. I had a friend like this: he never said he was anti-fashion but that he didn't care what clothes he wore. However, he spent more time shopping for down at heel clothes and getting ready to go out than anyone else I know. Methinks you care more for image than you realise.
2c. how things look / sound is mine.
Names aren't important to me - as a photographer, I use Fed cameras rather than Leicas even though I have enough cash to afford either. My phone until last year was a flip-top motorola V220, not cool these days by any means.
So Tolkien's son was 14 when he died of a writing-related illness after being forced into writing major pieces of fantasy literature? And then all the wealth he earned was stolen by the state before it could be inherited?
Poor analogy. A better one is, "So if your father spends a significant amount of his spare time lovingly crafting a fake world for his own enjoyment which unexpectedly turns out to be a big seller. Upon his death, his children (aged between 53 and 44 years of age) benefitted enormously from continued sales of his work across the world along with a percentage of some major movies and associated merchandising which made then *very* rich indeed."
Quoth: "What is the incentive to earn wealth if you're not entitled to use it how you wish -- including making your family comfortable?"
To spend it yourself? Besides, money was *never* the motivation for Tolkien. He worked on it for decades before making a penny. It was a labour of love.
So you're asking why would a company want 100% profits from 40% (say) of the market that Android has when they can go for 100% profits from 40% PLUS 70% profits from the 30% (say) of the market for that iDevices have?
Or in other words, why would a company want to make more money by making their service available to more paying customers?
So there's another sign of a veteran Unix admin: bitching about Canonical (or anything less than 20-30 years old) even when they're nothing to do with the complaint...
When looking for a local business, I often search for the name and town of the company. All well and good. But I often find that the first few links (sometimes even pages) are crammed with business directory sites. I really would prefer to use the proper company's website.
1) The company's website will have up to date information and more info like opening hours etc 2) The business directories often have/NO LINK WHATSOEVER/ to the company's site - just a sodding phone number. It's almost like they feel it's against the law to display a link to a company's website. 3) The business directory sites sometimes have the name and town and nothing else - wow, way to go. Tell me what I just searched for and nothing else. Thanks. Really useful there Einstein. 4) Using these directories, I would be using a search engine to go to - a search engine! (or as near as). Yeah - maybe if these directories could chain up and I could spend all f***ing day going around in circles (note the no hyperinks point above) 5) These directories are often full of crap - when the page loads, I'll see my own query loaded up in the directory's search box and then a really helpful and information message below "Sorry, we can't find anything that matches your query. Did you mean blah-dee-blah instead?" (poor recall) 6) Precision of returns is also poor. Lots of irrelevant company's are shown when something does come up for a query. I want local pizza delivery and they recommend car / auto parts. Wow, I was hungry but maybe what I really need are some brake pads? 7) These bloody things often appear *above* the website of the very company I'm looking for.
Although they're trying to be useful, they have a crap business model that doesn't nothing but get in my way.
Another one is review sites. Say you want to buy a camera and you want to read reviews. Yeah, there are pro reviews, but you want reviews by real users. So you type in the word 'review' as well. Up come a ton of returns from the search engine......most of which say, "Be the first one to write a review". I have honestly used that phrase as a Boolean NOT just to try and get some useful content.
Never mind though. As the rhyme goes:
"Oi can't read and Oi can't write,
But it don't really matter,
'Coz I come from the West Country,
And I can drive a tractor...."
Except of course that the Guardian is a British newspaper and can't be a preferred US outlet. Not saying that I disagree with your point about the NYT.
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I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one.
How sad. I never even had a C-64 when a youngster. I had to learn machine code on a Dragon 32 (6809 processor so not so bad!)
But still, I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one I want one.
Not fiberz man, tooobz! Tooobz!
So you're saying that people with autism are more likely to successfully pass on their genes to the next generation than people without?
Evidence, please.
Quoth: "Next they'll be demanding fees for listening to the radio while driving to work. The publishing industry will stop at nothing to fraudulently demand fees for others' works."
Hey! Have you been listening in to our strategy planning meetings? That's breaking our copyright, y'know!
Yours,
SABAM lawyers.
Since it used the scientific method? Don't take my word for it - try reading some papers on working memory, psychophysics or the statistics of psychometrics to realise that psychs have to have a stronger understanding of the scientific method than most other scientists. FYI, read the real papers not the type of nonsense that comes from critical analysis.
Quoth: "So why aren't we all wearing goggles (and wearing spandex) and looking like the characters in "The Lawnmower Man"? Is it because micro-displays never got good enough? Or something else?"
Because Apple haven't released a product with it causing all competitors to shit themselves?
Don't assume that ideologues about abortion are all pro-lifers. I've met quite a few pro-choicers who are ideologues (public example, Polly Toynbee, a noted Guardian writer, admitting that women have the perfect right to demand an abortion minutes before normal time of birth). The justification is that an unborn child is part of the woman's body and has no rights even if it is perfectly capable of living independently (and would be doing so within minutes). This is when the unborn child does feel pain, has as much sentience as any new born, and is about to have an existence independent of the mother.
Aww, diddums. Poor little you.
I am a scientist - I have a PhD from a 5* dept rated highest in research in the UK - which (assuming the validity of the RAEs) puts it as one of the best in the world. This included authors published in Nature and even a Fellow of the Royal Society (who chaired my PhD - and fell asleep!).
But when I was younger, I used to play rugby. I could go out drinking with friends, form good relationships with the opposite sex, have lots of friends and have a generally great time. Now, I have my own successful business and make lots of money.
So I would criticise your complaint in two ways.
1) Why are you drawing people into a dichotomy of two groups - intellectuals (the geeks who do science) and the non-intellectuals (everyone else who do sports / liberal arts) when there are many people who qualify for both groups according to your definition.
2) Why do you insist that intellectuals are incapable of sporting / social activities?
Your attitude is one of the most frustrating aspects of those who consider themselves 'geeks' - it's the snobbishness and arrogant belief that being a geek (of your definition) is superior. You really need to get out more and start living some real life. Do you realise that intelligent people out there exist who really enjoy sports and being sociable?
I can't help but feel that your biggest problem is yourself. It may be that you just don't realise that you are socially difficult to deal with, more so than you find everyone else difficult to deal with. We all had to learn that the world won't conform exactly to our desires, we had to adapt, change and learn how to deal with it. Why should you be different? I doubt you're any more intelligent than many people who deal successfully with it, despite your false dichotomy.
The most intelligent people I know also participate well in sports and have great social lives.
Son, just learn to be human. It's what you are and there's a life out there to be lived. Try to see the world from other people's point of view and remember that they can quite easily be right about things and that you're intrinsically no better than anyone else.
I saw Ghandi speak once. All I could focus on was this skinny little guy with glasses (with glasses?!) and an adult nappy standing at the front drinking nothing. I lost interest in him from then on too.
Lynx? You pussy. I use wget and parse the HTML with my *eyes* cos I'm so hard and cool and geeky, so git awf my lawn you nancy-boy and prance around with your new iPad somewhere else.
Eeeh, nobbut like when I were young though, I used tut paper cards and tape... Eee, it were grand!
Sorry for responding to myself but I should point out that $2000 for a laptop that I *know* lets me do any day job I can get is worth way more. $2000? That's 3 days work. I can lose more than that by only having a PC.
Pro-creativity: this isn't just pro-photography but anyone chained by work reasons to stuff like Adobe CS suite. Yeah it's crap but you try convincing clients that they need to change software for their entire workflow and see how long you keep the client. btw, I know CSX is on Windows but I've had to work at places that used only OSX software but never at places with PC only software. It's a business decision, plain and simple. I'd prefer using Slackware on a custom power-monster (used for my NLP research side-line) but I'm not the one paying for my time and knowledge.
I think the GP meant that OS X and Linux have reasonably effective (opinions may differ on how effective) GUI sitting on top of a Unix or Unix-like system. All the Unix tools are there on the command line if wanted in both systems, but the GUI can be more useful to most folks because they can explore for things (like how to change network) rather than having to sit down and read a man page (because I'm sure that only the minority of people want to have that knowledge - most just want it to work).
Wonderful anecdata. May I extrapolate? Apple stuff always fails before it should, and non-Apple stuff always works for ever.
And I would add that an enormous amount (quite probably the majority) of effective NLP software is open source too.
The problem is that the minute there is even the slightest sign of 'western' involvement, it plays into the hands of the incumbents. Gadaffi can point to the sky and say, "Look! They are bombing us". There does not have to be a single piece of truth in it - the cry alone will be listened to. The US has has too many dealing with Gadaffi to be trusted by anyone there. The US is despised and has no moral authority as far as the Libyans (and most Arabs) are concerned. involvement will likely result in things getting worse.
Libya is going through a revolution and I hope for Libya's sake that it is over quickly and that they can establish a political and economic that they like (which is harder than the battle). Many countries have been through this: Britain had bloody civil wars, the US had its war of independence, and so on. You can't 'give' independence to anyone - they have to take it for themselves otherwise they are not independent.
If you want to be on the side of good, then recognise that it's their problem to sort out. But be ready to help if a stable and decent system is established and they ask for help. Then, give them what they ask for and no more, then back off and leave them to work out their new country.
Yes, we are going to be in the ME for a long time. It's time that all western govts began to re-establish respect (which will take a long time, believe me), and the best way to do this is to this is to be on the side of good which right now means backing off.
Proviso: Am not OP 1. Very few people actively seek approval - it's a social thing with subtle cues. You may not notice or care but lots do. Either way, it's getting OT. I don't by macs for approval. With my way of thinking, busting open a plain laptop with Slackware would be the coolest thing but it doesn't really matter to me. 2a. Yes I would if I was sure they would work as well. Sign me up! 2b. You could. I wouldn't because: 2b i. I might want to resell it - yeah, I'm sure you'd be happy to buy a scratched computer but most people would want a discount. My aim would be to maximise the sale. Therefore, I try to treat my goods (not just Apple computers) carefully so that I can sell for as much as possible. 2b ii. I couldn't be arsed to waste my time in doing this. If the logo was a sticker, then maybe (I've removed many 'made for Windows' -type stickers, but scratching off a logo just to prove your point - it sounds like Adrian Mole and friends wearing red socks under normal socks as a protest. Like the GP said, would you buy a car and then spend hours scratching off all the manufacturers identifying marks. People who do this are far more concerned about "image" than those who don't give a monkeys. I had a friend like this: he never said he was anti-fashion but that he didn't care what clothes he wore. However, he spent more time shopping for down at heel clothes and getting ready to go out than anyone else I know. Methinks you care more for image than you realise. 2c. how things look / sound is mine. Names aren't important to me - as a photographer, I use Fed cameras rather than Leicas even though I have enough cash to afford either. My phone until last year was a flip-top motorola V220, not cool these days by any means.
So Tolkien's son was 14 when he died of a writing-related illness after being forced into writing major pieces of fantasy literature? And then all the wealth he earned was stolen by the state before it could be inherited?
Poor analogy. A better one is, "So if your father spends a significant amount of his spare time lovingly crafting a fake world for his own enjoyment which unexpectedly turns out to be a big seller. Upon his death, his children (aged between 53 and 44 years of age) benefitted enormously from continued sales of his work across the world along with a percentage of some major movies and associated merchandising which made then *very* rich indeed."
Quoth: "What is the incentive to earn wealth if you're not entitled to use it how you wish -- including making your family comfortable?"
To spend it yourself? Besides, money was *never* the motivation for Tolkien. He worked on it for decades before making a penny. It was a labour of love.
So you're asking why would a company want 100% profits from 40% (say) of the market that Android has when they can go for 100% profits from 40% PLUS 70% profits from the 30% (say) of the market for that iDevices have?
Or in other words, why would a company want to make more money by making their service available to more paying customers?
Beats me...
May he's likening his thought process to eating. Y'know, food goes in sh!t comes out...
So there's another sign of a veteran Unix admin: bitching about Canonical (or anything less than 20-30 years old) even when they're nothing to do with the complaint...
When looking for a local business, I often search for the name and town of the company. All well and good. But I often find that the first few links (sometimes even pages) are crammed with business directory sites. I really would prefer to use the proper company's website.
1) The company's website will have up to date information and more info like opening hours etc /NO LINK WHATSOEVER/ to the company's site - just a sodding phone number. It's almost like they feel it's against the law to display a link to a company's website.
2) The business directories often have
3) The business directory sites sometimes have the name and town and nothing else - wow, way to go. Tell me what I just searched for and nothing else. Thanks. Really useful there Einstein.
4) Using these directories, I would be using a search engine to go to - a search engine! (or as near as). Yeah - maybe if these directories could chain up and I could spend all f***ing day going around in circles (note the no hyperinks point above)
5) These directories are often full of crap - when the page loads, I'll see my own query loaded up in the directory's search box and then a really helpful and information message below "Sorry, we can't find anything that matches your query. Did you mean blah-dee-blah instead?" (poor recall)
6) Precision of returns is also poor. Lots of irrelevant company's are shown when something does come up for a query. I want local pizza delivery and they recommend car / auto parts. Wow, I was hungry but maybe what I really need are some brake pads?
7) These bloody things often appear *above* the website of the very company I'm looking for.
Although they're trying to be useful, they have a crap business model that doesn't nothing but get in my way.
Another one is review sites. Say you want to buy a camera and you want to read reviews. Yeah, there are pro reviews, but you want reviews by real users. So you type in the word 'review' as well. Up come a ton of returns from the search engine... ...most of which say, "Be the first one to write a review". I have honestly used that phrase as a Boolean NOT just to try and get some useful content.
Your on /. - it doesn't matter.
Never mind though. As the rhyme goes: "Oi can't read and Oi can't write, But it don't really matter, 'Coz I come from the West Country, And I can drive a tractor...."
Except of course that the Guardian is a British newspaper and can't be a preferred US outlet. Not saying that I disagree with your point about the NYT.