I'm arguing that Apple has a monopoly on "computers that will run Mac OS" and "Mac OS".
BMW certainly has a monopoly on the M5. So who doesn't have a monopoly on a car model? Believe it or not, there are examples of cars that are made by more than one company, the European VM Bug comes to mind.
Now, does BMW have a monopoly on "Roads that M5s drive on"? No.
The point is that Apple/Max OS is vendor lockin. The argument that at least Apple isn't a monopoly is junk.
I've been a long time Redhat user, both on the server AND desktop (yeah, that's right, desktop).
After Redhat's new policy on Redhat Linux was announced, I knew I had to switch. Why? Redhat had made it clear it didn't want me as a customer.
I need patches and that's it, I don't need hand holding and I don't need a 5 year plan (if that really turns out to hold). I'd gladly pay for patches, but the Enterprise options are why too expensive both for my current workplace and me personally. Fedora sounds like a good idea, looks good for messing around. But serious server work? No thanks.
I read you load and clear Redhat, so I'm moving on.
I looked at all the distros and kicked the tires. Gentoo is promising, but not mature enough (portage needs some work and not just technical). Slackware, well, I started with Slackware and I just can't go back. Debian (stable mind you) takes a little getting used to, but it's heart is in the right place and I look forward to being a contributing member of the community.
No. I can think of several alternatives. Then I can think of dozen of different motherboard vendors. Then I can think of dozens of different vendors for cases, motherboards, RAM, hard drives. Then I CAN'T think of the hundreds of vendors that offer further accessories and peripherials.
I don't think someone is Evil for running OS X. I do think that running Apple/OSX is vendor lock in and vendor lock in is Evil to ME. And to ME, it is certainly not "So what?".
BTW, the NASA reference was to "If there is a whole in the wing, SO WHAT, nothing we can do. So why even check". Which is about the most Evil thing I've ever heard.
So, you admit that Apple has a monopoly on Apple computers and operating systems? Well, that was big of you.
Apple is a monopoly, choosing Apple hardware is still vendor lock in. You may follow up with the "So what?" argument. Then I will follow up with the "It certainly matters" and so on. But how about we skip that part?
"Apple as a company is not an angel. But its not a monoply and is leverging open source an contributing back to the open source community."
Wrong. Flat wrong. Apple is the ultimate monopoly. Name one other company that sells Apple computers. Name one other company that sells Mac OS.
When the mac clones were being sold, there was a brief time when Apple was no longer a monopoly. Then they woke up.
You're very correct about Apple leveraging Open Source. And you're right, they do contribute SOME back. Too bad they keep some of it to themselves, like the parts addressing their hardware.
Who said anything about swapping the drives as the only option?
How about cloning the system to a USB drive, then on to the target system?
How about over a network connection?
All this is simple, boot the target (or source!) with any of a number of LiveCDs, copy copy copy, twiddle a file or two, done. Oh...this would require an OS that let's you DO those kinds of things. But certainly doable with the stuff I choose to run.
You have missed my point. It is easy for us, being water-dependant, in a world filled with an abundance of water-dependant organisms, to see how water is useful to life and to be able to see how this special property of water is good for that, so on and so forth. That does NOT mean that Life Depends on Water.
As you acknowledge, life doesn't HAVE to be based on water. But it certainly is easier to think that life does depend on water, given our (meaning Earth-based) makeup and understanding.
Oh, I suppose the United States should have shelved the whole of idea of a free nation and just stayed an English Colony?
Please pull your head out of the sand. Thoughtful, coordinated change is good. There is certainly room in SMTP for improvement, all we need do is reach a consensus on what to do and then get it done. There are several proposals in the works, such as SPF, MS DNS records (or RMX), which all do the same thing: provide a way for a single domain to say "My mail is sent from such and such IP". An excellent idea, fairly easy to implement and solves the real problem: fraudulent mail headers.
So, yes, changes in the source rsync tree would trickle down to all the mirrors. It wouldn't actually compromise those servers, in the root-on-the-box sense, but they would be serving compromised data.
This would be fine assuming no software was emerged, if one of those 20 happened to 'emerge -u system' and there WAS packages amiss, that would be bad and not cleaned up by an emerge sync.
Would be a good thing to see if notifying those 20 people was possible.
APNIC just says Korea, that's good enough for me. Oh, KP (Korea, Democratic People's Republic) would be North Korea? My bad...
Just because most North Koreans don't have Internet access doesn't mean there aren't machines to exploit for SPAM purposes. I'll keep an eye out for KP.
If it were just another Linux portal, the site would be fine.
However, Linux Gazette (the concept) has a history, a history of being a monthly webzine. I've looked forward to being able to browse each issue, not having to be in a hurry lest I miss something. And the archives make for good reference material.
The change would be the same as if Slashdot came out once a month. That doesn't make sense either, does it?
Slashdot Mirror
Yes, I'll accept those.
I'm arguing that Apple has a monopoly on "computers that will run Mac OS" and "Mac OS".
BMW certainly has a monopoly on the M5. So who doesn't have a monopoly on a car model? Believe it or not, there are examples of cars that are made by more than one company, the European VM Bug comes to mind.
Now, does BMW have a monopoly on "Roads that M5s drive on"? No.
The point is that Apple/Max OS is vendor lockin. The argument that at least Apple isn't a monopoly is junk.
Dictionary.com
"Exclusive control by one group of the means of producing or selling a commodity or service"
I'd like to buy a computer running Mac OS X. Name me three vendors that make such a computer.
Thanks for playing.
I've been a long time Redhat user, both on the server AND desktop (yeah, that's right, desktop).
After Redhat's new policy on Redhat Linux was announced, I knew I had to switch. Why? Redhat had made it clear it didn't want me as a customer.
I need patches and that's it, I don't need hand holding and I don't need a 5 year plan (if that really turns out to hold). I'd gladly pay for patches, but the Enterprise options are why too expensive both for my current workplace and me personally. Fedora sounds like a good idea, looks good for messing around. But serious server work? No thanks.
I read you load and clear Redhat, so I'm moving on.
I looked at all the distros and kicked the tires. Gentoo is promising, but not mature enough (portage needs some work and not just technical). Slackware, well, I started with Slackware and I just can't go back. Debian (stable mind you) takes a little getting used to, but it's heart is in the right place and I look forward to being a contributing member of the community.
I'm limited to two processor vendors?
No. I can think of several alternatives. Then I can think of dozen of different motherboard vendors. Then I can think of dozens of different vendors for cases, motherboards, RAM, hard drives. Then I CAN'T think of the hundreds of vendors that offer further accessories and peripherials.
I don't think someone is Evil for running OS X. I do think that running Apple/OSX is vendor lock in and vendor lock in is Evil to ME. And to ME, it is certainly not "So what?".
BTW, the NASA reference was to "If there is a whole in the wing, SO WHAT, nothing we can do. So why even check". Which is about the most Evil thing I've ever heard.
So, you admit that Apple has a monopoly on Apple computers and operating systems? Well, that was big of you.
Apple is a monopoly, choosing Apple hardware is still vendor lock in. You may follow up with the "So what?" argument. Then I will follow up with the "It certainly matters" and so on. But how about we skip that part?
Is an iBook considered inexpensive?
I've got Gentoo running quite nicely on a G3 Powerbook, complete with wireless and sleep/suspend.
"Apple as a company is not an angel. But its not a monoply and is leverging open source an contributing back to the open source community."
Wrong. Flat wrong. Apple is the ultimate monopoly. Name one other company that sells Apple computers. Name one other company that sells Mac OS.
When the mac clones were being sold, there was a brief time when Apple was no longer a monopoly. Then they woke up.
You're very correct about Apple leveraging Open Source. And you're right, they do contribute SOME back. Too bad they keep some of it to themselves, like the parts addressing their hardware.
So, you're response to the argument "Apple is not open" is "So what?".
Do you work for NASA?
In case you didn't notice, most folks consider Windows the more evil option than OS X. Try going DOWN the scale, to Linux, *BSD and friends.
Horse Pucky.
Who said anything about swapping the drives as the only option?
How about cloning the system to a USB drive, then on to the target system?
How about over a network connection?
All this is simple, boot the target (or source!) with any of a number of LiveCDs, copy copy copy, twiddle a file or two, done. Oh...this would require an OS that let's you DO those kinds of things. But certainly doable with the stuff I choose to run.
Well, so much for my bargain shopping on Ebay!!
Next they'll have a story about putting items in the wrong category...uhh, never mind.
Call me crazy, but I think the ROCKET SCIENTISTS probably covered garbled data in the design.
Now unit conversion, that's a whole different ballgame.
You must not have even used a Northgate keyboard.
Ah, the good old days.
99% of the keyboards today are all crap.
From the definitions:
"Average temperature: Mean temperature of the body over the entire surface in Kelvin."
"Diurnal temperature range: Temperature range over an average day in Kelvin."
One would assume the Diurnal is also over the entire body.
So, these quick stats don't really apply to a single point on Mars.
You have missed my point. It is easy for us, being water-dependant, in a world filled with an abundance of water-dependant organisms, to see how water is useful to life and to be able to see how this special property of water is good for that, so on and so forth. That does NOT mean that Life Depends on Water.
As you acknowledge, life doesn't HAVE to be based on water. But it certainly is easier to think that life does depend on water, given our (meaning Earth-based) makeup and understanding.
Which is all from the point of view of a water-needing lifeform.
A different element would probably seem just a useful to a lifeform based on said element.
Until we find one, we might as well go with what we know (as mentioned), yet keep an open mind.
Oh, I suppose the United States should have shelved the whole of idea of a free nation and just stayed an English Colony?
Please pull your head out of the sand. Thoughtful, coordinated change is good. There is certainly room in SMTP for improvement, all we need do is reach a consensus on what to do and then get it done. There are several proposals in the works, such as SPF, MS DNS records (or RMX), which all do the same thing: provide a way for a single domain to say "My mail is sent from such and such IP". An excellent idea, fairly easy to implement and solves the real problem: fraudulent mail headers.
Actually, the ebuilds are shell scripts.
md5sum is no protection if they are never checked.
Don't confuse ebuild with spec files from RPM, though RPMs can contain hostile scripts as well.
The rsync server has the ebuilds, correct? There's not a lot of security in an ebuild, given that it's just a script, running as root.
:)
Granted, nothing probably happened. Reasonably, no one was affected. No big deal.
Unless one of the 20 was me.
The rsync servers sync with...rsync!
So, yes, changes in the source rsync tree would trickle down to all the mirrors. It wouldn't actually compromise those servers, in the root-on-the-box sense, but they would be serving compromised data.
This would be fine assuming no software was emerged, if one of those 20 happened to 'emerge -u system' and there WAS packages amiss, that would be bad and not cleaned up by an emerge sync.
Would be a good thing to see if notifying those 20 people was possible.
APNIC just says Korea, that's good enough for me. Oh, KP (Korea, Democratic People's Republic) would be North Korea? My bad...
:)
Just because most North Koreans don't have Internet access doesn't mean there aren't machines to exploit for SPAM purposes. I'll keep an eye out for KP.
Someone mod me Stupid.
If this is North Korea's attempt to get off my black list, it's a failure.
:)
Is that where the Iraqi information minister ended up?
If it were just another Linux portal, the site would be fine.
However, Linux Gazette (the concept) has a history, a history of being a monthly webzine. I've looked forward to being able to browse each issue, not having to be in a hurry lest I miss something. And the archives make for good reference material.
The change would be the same as if Slashdot came out once a month. That doesn't make sense either, does it?
A few tidbits from the other side.