While I agree with you, its not just about stealing bandwith, it could be someone with a more nefarious intent. Instead of leeching a little badnwith, it more along the lines of trash the servers. So, in reality its just a few bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us.
Basically, I don't recommend deploying wireless to any type of network that you care about. Its just not there yet.
1. Apple comes out with cool software product 2. People who don't want to spend $1k for single piece of software clamour for Apple to port it to different operating systems 3. Apple sez "No way Jose" 4. Developers create clone of said software so people can use it cross platform 5. Apple attacks with lawyers 6.... 7. Profit
Honestly, unless Apple comes out with a x86 port this claim is one of the most anal around.
Of course, I wonder when Apple will send a letter to Microsoft demanding they stop production fo Windows?
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See, I like the idea of finding out if any washers/driers are open. It allows me to plan ahead and figure out when I should be there to grab an open one.
Also, maybe I could do a statisical analysis on when the mostly likely time would be to get a free one is. Or a SNMP trap when the dryer is done! Or a XML database of what clothes are being washed! Or a tachometer on the wryer so I know how fast its going! THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!!!
We've had payment here too. We have a central Debit system that works across vending machines, the food court, and the laundry system, its pretty handy. Too bad I'm moving off campus this year. Oh well, at least I'll have unfettered Internet access. ^_^
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Of course, this has already been done byt the Geeks at MIT
I was excited for Perl 6 when it was first starting out, then I reading about all the stuff that is going to change, and got worried. Now, after reading this, I've come to the conclusions that I am sticking with Perl 5, as for my Web stuff, I'm finally taking theplunge and learning PHP. Perl 6 is starting to become a completely different language, all y stuff works now, and I don't feel like porting.
...you will be be shouting something about the people being too stupid to govern themselves.
Well, duh... I think I've had that mindset since about 12.
If this comes to my state I will be the first one in line to lobby against it. People should be focusing their efforts on trying to get OSS to get adopted by its own merits rather then cramming it down people's throats. Everyone talks about free this and free that, what about free choice?
If I announced "as of tomorrow, I'm no longer buying any software that isn't open-sourced" would you rail on me for limiting my own choices? Or would that be "stupid"?
Nope, because you are doing it for yourself. Would I think you're taking a very narrow view of the world? yep.
If your work suddenly took a very narrow mindset of what software you can use is that good? "There is this package from Conglomocorp that we can use that fits our needs perfectly" "CAn't use it, we need to devlop our own solution." Its ludicrous to outlaw the best solution for a job. If OSS is so good, why do need a law that forces people to choose it?
I admin a heterogenus LAN over two site of about 200 comptuers each, we run a smattering of 9x/NT/2K/XP, the only reason We run the non-NT systems is becuase they are OEM and I don't want to be bothered by formatting a perfectly good install. NTFS in the NT4 installer can handle drives up to 2G in size, which IMHO is a good thing, because it allows you to toss all your data on another drive and if NT shits the bed, you can reform C: and not worry about D:.
The Service Pack is a problem, but anything above IE3 handles MSFT's site marginally (NT4 comes with IE2 by default) so it/is/ theoretically possible to run a computer with an old OS.
Yes, you will face this problem, but there are always ways around it, I have a friend still running Linux 1.X. Its all relative.:)
OK, how much of the public uses OSS? How much uses MSFT? So, if the public passed a law saying the govt could only use closed source software, would you be OK with that? After all, the public is the employer and they feel that the govt serves them better with MSFT only technology.
No one should be forced to use any type of software. Its stupid
OK, my divison does a lot of statistical research. Now, we use a program/language called SAS for crunching these numbers. Now, SAS has the market cornered for this product and is no way opening their product up, now, if this law was passed in MA a good chunk of my dept is SOL. Lots of programs (Its a interpreter) will now be unusable.
I'm not saying that Open Source is bad, hell SAS even has a port to Linux, but why must you shove something down peoples throats when it isn't the best solution?
You really are trying to make a decision that you are not informed on.
I can't read things I wrote 10 years ago - papers, documents, etc, b/c I just cannot find a machine that can read their format (Word 2.0).
True, but, nothing made you upgrade, my govt. job uses an ancient org chart program and no one really wants to upgrade because it works fine. Still you have a point.
I think the government should use open source software wherever there is choice
I never said the Govt. shouldn't use OSS, I just said that the Govt. shouldn't be forced to use OSS, I am a strong proponent of Linux/OSS at my job, but do I think that we should scrap everything and roll out a brand new environment? No way, it would cost major money and cause major headaches.
Is OSS good? Yes. Should govt use OSS? Hell yeah. Should someone be forced to use a certain type of software? Nope.
Now, I have this really neat gizmo hooked up to my laptop. I walk to to the kitchen for a glass of milk and a nice loose meat sandwich after not being able to connect to my favorite FTP server. While in the kitchen, I accidently walk beyond the leash range. The laptop encrypts my HDD. Now, after making my sandwich I walk back and can't use my laptop until it decrypts my entire HDD.
There are people in Government too, should they not be allow to choose whatever suits their job best? If someone found a VB application that does exactly what they want it to do, why should they be forced to use something that doesn't fit their needs correctly because it runs on a closed source system? Its unfair.
There are lots of programs that people are familiar and comfortable with and there should be no law mandating that they can't use them. You shouldn't criticize these guys until you stop doing the same thing.
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UF used to be part of my daily Webcomic reading habit, I remember spending close to an entire day reading the archives when I first read it. Then, about a year or two ago, it just stopped being funny. The storylines really just started getting into childish "Windows Sucks! Ha!". Honestly, I don't see how people can still read it.
I have the first book, because there are some good storylines from the first few years, but after that it really started to go downhill. Now I read Sluggy Freelance and I feel much cleaner.
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While I agree with you, its not just about stealing bandwith, it could be someone with a more nefarious intent. Instead of leeching a little badnwith, it more along the lines of trash the servers. So, in reality its just a few bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us.
Basically, I don't recommend deploying wireless to any type of network that you care about. Its just not there yet.
1. Apple comes out with cool software product ...
2. People who don't want to spend $1k for single piece of software clamour for Apple to port it to different operating systems
3. Apple sez "No way Jose"
4. Developers create clone of said software so people can use it cross platform
5. Apple attacks with lawyers
6.
7. Profit
Honestly, unless Apple comes out with a x86 port this claim is one of the most anal around.
Of course, I wonder when Apple will send a letter to Microsoft demanding they stop production fo Windows?
See, I like the idea of finding out if any washers/driers are open. It allows me to plan ahead and figure out when I should be there to grab an open one.
Also, maybe I could do a statisical analysis on when the mostly likely time would be to get a free one is. Or a SNMP trap when the dryer is done! Or a XML database of what clothes are being washed! Or a tachometer on the wryer so I know how fast its going! THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!!!
Yeah, I'm a geek, how could you tell?
We've had payment here too. We have a central Debit system that works across vending machines, the food court, and the laundry system, its pretty handy. Too bad I'm moving off campus this year. Oh well, at least I'll have unfettered Internet access. ^_^
Of course, this has already been done byt the Geeks at MIT
Yes, but it is still incorrect grammar.
You mean like the fix that was out August 22nd?
No biggie, but did you take that sig from me? Not that it matters, I jsut want to see if I actuallys tarted a trend. :)
I was excited for Perl 6 when it was first starting out, then I reading about all the stuff that is going to change, and got worried. Now, after reading this, I've come to the conclusions that I am sticking with Perl 5, as for my Web stuff, I'm finally taking theplunge and learning PHP. Perl 6 is starting to become a completely different language, all y stuff works now, and I don't feel like porting.
Yeah but it only works on pay phones for some reason.
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Been there, done that, T-Shirt's on back-order.
/is/ theoretically possible to run a computer with an old OS.
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I admin a heterogenus LAN over two site of about 200 comptuers each, we run a smattering of 9x/NT/2K/XP, the only reason We run the non-NT systems is becuase they are OEM and I don't want to be bothered by formatting a perfectly good install. NTFS in the NT4 installer can handle drives up to 2G in size, which IMHO is a good thing, because it allows you to toss all your data on another drive and if NT shits the bed, you can reform C: and not worry about D:.
The Service Pack is a problem, but anything above IE3 handles MSFT's site marginally (NT4 comes with IE2 by default) so it
Yes, you will face this problem, but there are always ways around it, I have a friend still running Linux 1.X. Its all relative.
OK, how much of the public uses OSS? How much uses MSFT? So, if the public passed a law saying the govt could only use closed source software, would you be OK with that? After all, the public is the employer and they feel that the govt serves them better with MSFT only technology.
No one should be forced to use any type of software. Its stupid
OK, my divison does a lot of statistical research. Now, we use a program/language called SAS for crunching these numbers. Now, SAS has the market cornered for this product and is no way opening their product up, now, if this law was passed in MA a good chunk of my dept is SOL. Lots of programs (Its a interpreter) will now be unusable.
I'm not saying that Open Source is bad, hell SAS even has a port to Linux, but why must you shove something down peoples throats when it isn't the best solution?
You really are trying to make a decision that you are not informed on.
Now, I have this really neat gizmo hooked up to my laptop. I walk to to the kitchen for a glass of milk and a nice loose meat sandwich after not being able to connect to my favorite FTP server. While in the kitchen, I accidently walk beyond the leash range. The laptop encrypts my HDD. Now, after making my sandwich I walk back and can't use my laptop until it decrypts my entire HDD.
Wouldn't this just be annoying?
There are people in Government too, should they not be allow to choose whatever suits their job best? If someone found a VB application that does exactly what they want it to do, why should they be forced to use something that doesn't fit their needs correctly because it runs on a closed source system? Its unfair.
There are lots of programs that people are familiar and comfortable with and there should be no law mandating that they can't use them. You shouldn't criticize these guys until you stop doing the same thing.
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UF used to be part of my daily Webcomic reading habit, I remember spending close to an entire day reading the archives when I first read it. Then, about a year or two ago, it just stopped being funny. The storylines really just started getting into childish "Windows Sucks! Ha!". Honestly, I don't see how people can still read it.
I have the first book, because there are some good storylines from the first few years, but after that it really started to go downhill. Now I read Sluggy Freelance and I feel much cleaner.
For those who like Computer Comics I recomend Angst Technology and (whenever Jeff gets out of his "I want to be a
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