Once you realize that, their lack of "customer service" isn't surprising in the least. So long as you're not paying for the service, you're not a customer.
The only 'Customer Service' reps users can expect to see from Facebook are essentially border collies.
Apple ain't what it used to be -- people need to grow up and move on. But where?
That is a perplexing question. Where should self-important middle-intelligence people who want to band together and claim to be the top-intelligence elite gather next?
It's so typical to see people like you with your 'Apple vs. the World' and 'Apple vs. whichever close competitor' mindset.
The resurgence of Apple fucktards is just staggering. Let me be the first to inform you that your type has been around since about 1984 when Mr. Jobs announced the 'Hacker Proof' Macintosh in jubilant tones at a press conference.
A sociologist could probably do a study and determine that 'contrary elite' behavior is a common human tendency. We all remember the arrogant fuck on the block who had the Schwinn bike while we all had our Huffy and Sears bikes. It isn't anything new.
The sad thing is how badly it's polluted the Slashdot community in the last several years.
Sorry to burst your self-importance bubble, but there really ISN'T some big board with a little blinking red light representing your instantaneous (or even stored) location. This is for marketing trends.
Then they need to publish and enforce a strict data retention policy. The logged data needs to be wiped completely every 24 hours, specifically as soon as their 'innocent' purpose has been served. And the wiping needs to be verifiable with some third party involved in auditing the process.
And, full fucking disclosure would be nice, but we know how important stealthy little games are for our friend the cancerous coke dealer.
All Apple would have left are the employees they've bought in through acquisitions. The old-bones types who tried, and tried, and tried again to write that fabled 'next generation operating system' in the 90's are the old Apple team. They were replaced when Apple threw in the towel and just allowed themselves to be taken over by the NeXT team.
Amen, Barton. Obfuscation through walls of text is a scummy way to slip clauses past consumers. Too bad every company does it today.
It's only fair if it goes both ways. I routinely say 'yeah, yeah, of course' when I click through huge bodies of text to get a piece of software to do what I paid for. I expect that a precedent is being set by this practice. So I'm just waiting for said 'licenses' to eventually be declared null and void because of the common practice of click-through without reading.
In fact, we can all help the process along by just clicking through. Say 'yeah, yeah, sure' while doing it.
Second, what I consider the 'good stuff' from Motorola continues on at Freescale and ON-Semi.
A lot of companies are competitive, and indeed surpass, Intel in microprocessors. There are so many other segments of the microprocessor biz than 'that big main chip in my PeeCee.' There are a hell of a lot more Freescale parts speced into the automotive market than Intel parts. Does Intel make any processors at all for that market segment?
It's a serious mistake to couple 'dumb' with discrete semiconductors in any fashion. High speed is ALWAYS about analog, and about high quality discrete semiconductors. Motorola's RF component lineup has always been top notch. They sort of ran things in many segments of that biz for a long long time.
The ensuing meltdown will make the last recession look like child's play.
Wouldn't China be, er.... diluting the value of their US reserves pretty drastically with a move like that? I think they're more economically vulnerable, as a government, than the US is.
This is more of a show that if US shows up to defend Taiwan, the China can cripple US military without resorting to nuclear weapons.
Well, not really. They can cripple US civillian's TomToms, leading to some yelling and confusion on the freeways. I forsee several hundred 80-year-old men in mini-vans crumpling their fenders.
If it's going to be 'geopolitical good guys and bad guys' debate, then it should probably be 'amount of pollution/percentage of world food supply produced' measure. The US is one of the world's breadbaskets, a net exporter of food.
Of course, for some, this too is probably a 'bad thing' because when people get fed they tend to breed more people.
We're trying to broaden the discussion out, to be about anechoic testing.
Now, I know this is apple.slashdot.org and not the regular geek site, so we're bound to have trolls like you trying to drag the topic back down into 'apple vs. whatever' screech sessions. But can you give it a break?
One of the things that makes it obvious that they're not really that serious about testing is that they've just stuck it in a building on the main Apple campus.
Good Anechoic Testing facilities are strategically located in ideal geographical sites, which are always far away from civilization or in low spots so that spurious RF interference isn't a problem. For the best grade of testing, they put the labs waaaaay off somewhere. It's a lonely job working in that sort of facility, and they're usually special third party outfits because it's so specialized and expensive.
But big companies also like to have an amount of inhouse capability. Apple uses the 'secrecy' aspect of their product development as part of their marketing, so they probably don't like to ship out much testing to outside firms with more expertise. I hope Apple isn't claiming these labs are the only place they do testing.
The really bizarre thing is I've had an iPhone 4 since day 1, I've seen the glitch and until I got a case it had been affecting my data connections, but I still really like this phone! Is Apple turning us all into battered wives?
You said 'data connections' which indicates you use it a lot as a non-cellphone. I am much the same and in fact that's why I own an iPod Touch rather than an iPhone. For my purposes a wifi connection is suitable and the connectivity far less expensive, so my cellphone is an inexpensive throwaway model.
As others have said in various forum threads on this topic recently, the real heavy and experienced 'serious business' cellphone users gravitate away from the ATT network and from Apple's phones. The Apple lineup isn't even really designed for this market. It's a casual phone for casual users designed in parallel with an 'entertainment platform' for mass market consumers. Apple decided that's what they wanted to sell and it's only fair to acknowledge that and not expect more from them.
A lot of the iPhone market at this point is made up of gadgeteers and geeks, and people who buy what's fashionable. Many aren't really heavy cellphone users. It's not surprising that someone like you appreciates other stuff about it in spite of the 'warts' on it as a cell phone. I'd like to have one, too, but I'd want it untethered from monthly billing as a cellphone (for the camera, etc. that my iPod doesn't have.)
Historically, Motorola has been involved in RF testing to the level where they made the test equipment used in labs like these. They also made the critical semiconductors inside everybody's test equipment.
Comparing (historical**) Motorola to Apple as a technology firm is like comparing Mercedes-Bentz to Kia.
(** I say 'historical' because Motorola was 'brand split' and broken apart similar to the way H-P has been in recent times)
Apple is a 'design/marketing' company, not an 'engineering' company. The two types of companies have different approaches to design, and different forces within the company drive development.
H-P used to be an 'engineering' company, and Agilent kinda still is that part.
The sad thing is that the Woz cut his teeth at H-P back when it was one of THE premiere engineering companies. That might have a certain amount to do with why he now has little to do with Apple.
Many companies in many industries have a long term relationship with regulatory agencies (the FDA, the Underwriters Laboratory, etc.) and thus have accredited facilities to do their own certification testing. It always occurs with some amount of oversight by the outside agency. And it isn't something you can do as a newb to an industry, no matter how much $$$ you throw at it.
Apple is a newb to the RF design industry, BTW. Companies like Motorola have had FCC certified products for many decades.
So you are telling us that Apple has made a fake video of a BlackBerry Bold 9700 droping from 5 bars to 1 bar when held in a way that attenuates the signal? To "not take responsibility"? Are you on CrackBerry?
People aren't saying that, but it's not outside the realm of possibilities. Apple has really shitted in their pants on this one, to use a phrase some dude likes using.
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It used to work pretty good with sails. However, it's fussy and labor intensive.
The only 'Customer Service' reps users can expect to see from Facebook are essentially border collies.
I don't use Facebook, either.
However, a position like this sort of smack of the stereotypical Slashdot nerd boast:
"I watch no television at all."
(incidentally, I watch almost no television at all, but it's not a matter of pride to me)
There's already a native FarmVille app for the iP** devices. No need for Flash!
Apple ain't what it used to be -- people need to grow up and move on. But where?
That is a perplexing question. Where should self-important middle-intelligence people who want to band together and claim to be the top-intelligence elite gather next?
It's so typical to see people like you with your 'Apple vs. the World' and 'Apple vs. whichever close competitor' mindset.
The resurgence of Apple fucktards is just staggering. Let me be the first to inform you that your type has been around since about 1984 when Mr. Jobs announced the 'Hacker Proof' Macintosh in jubilant tones at a press conference.
A sociologist could probably do a study and determine that 'contrary elite' behavior is a common human tendency. We all remember the arrogant fuck on the block who had the Schwinn bike while we all had our Huffy and Sears bikes. It isn't anything new.
The sad thing is how badly it's polluted the Slashdot community in the last several years.
I can't wait to see the responses from the Worshipers explaining this one.
Thanks for answering the roll-call, dood.
Sorry to burst your self-importance bubble, but there really ISN'T some big board with a little blinking red light representing your instantaneous (or even stored) location. This is for marketing trends.
Then they need to publish and enforce a strict data retention policy. The logged data needs to be wiped completely every 24 hours, specifically as soon as their 'innocent' purpose has been served. And the wiping needs to be verifiable with some third party involved in auditing the process.
And, full fucking disclosure would be nice, but we know how important stealthy little games are for our friend the cancerous coke dealer.
All Apple would have left are the employees they've bought in through acquisitions. The old-bones types who tried, and tried, and tried again to write that fabled 'next generation operating system' in the 90's are the old Apple team. They were replaced when Apple threw in the towel and just allowed themselves to be taken over by the NeXT team.
Amen, Barton. Obfuscation through walls of text is a scummy way to slip clauses past consumers. Too bad every company does it today.
It's only fair if it goes both ways. I routinely say 'yeah, yeah, of course' when I click through huge bodies of text to get a piece of software to do what I paid for. I expect that a precedent is being set by this practice. So I'm just waiting for said 'licenses' to eventually be declared null and void because of the common practice of click-through without reading.
In fact, we can all help the process along by just clicking through. Say 'yeah, yeah, sure' while doing it.
First, it isn't even all of Motorola.
Second, what I consider the 'good stuff' from Motorola continues on at Freescale and ON-Semi.
A lot of companies are competitive, and indeed surpass, Intel in microprocessors. There are so many other segments of the microprocessor biz than 'that big main chip in my PeeCee.' There are a hell of a lot more Freescale parts speced into the automotive market than Intel parts. Does Intel make any processors at all for that market segment?
At the start of the company, the "Motorola" was actually a vacuum tube car radio.
It's a serious mistake to couple 'dumb' with discrete semiconductors in any fashion. High speed is ALWAYS about analog, and about high quality discrete semiconductors. Motorola's RF component lineup has always been top notch. They sort of ran things in many segments of that biz for a long long time.
End fascism now.
La-dee-dah
"Visualize Whirled Peas"
(and of course)
"We shall not be moved" (always sung while being hauled to the wagons by the police)
The ensuing meltdown will make the last recession look like child's play.
Wouldn't China be, er.... diluting the value of their US reserves pretty drastically with a move like that? I think they're more economically vulnerable, as a government, than the US is.
My spokesperson says: "Who the fuck started the whole star wars hype?"
George Lucas, obviously. Did you miss that somehow?
This is more of a show that if US shows up to defend Taiwan, the China can cripple US military without resorting to nuclear weapons.
Well, not really. They can cripple US civillian's TomToms, leading to some yelling and confusion on the freeways. I forsee several hundred 80-year-old men in mini-vans crumpling their fenders.
If it's going to be 'geopolitical good guys and bad guys' debate, then it should probably be 'amount of pollution/percentage of world food supply produced' measure. The US is one of the world's breadbaskets, a net exporter of food.
Of course, for some, this too is probably a 'bad thing' because when people get fed they tend to breed more people.
We're trying to broaden the discussion out, to be about anechoic testing.
Now, I know this is apple.slashdot.org and not the regular geek site, so we're bound to have trolls like you trying to drag the topic back down into 'apple vs. whatever' screech sessions. But can you give it a break?
One of the things that makes it obvious that they're not really that serious about testing is that they've just stuck it in a building on the main Apple campus.
Good Anechoic Testing facilities are strategically located in ideal geographical sites, which are always far away from civilization or in low spots so that spurious RF interference isn't a problem. For the best grade of testing, they put the labs waaaaay off somewhere. It's a lonely job working in that sort of facility, and they're usually special third party outfits because it's so specialized and expensive.
But big companies also like to have an amount of inhouse capability. Apple uses the 'secrecy' aspect of their product development as part of their marketing, so they probably don't like to ship out much testing to outside firms with more expertise. I hope Apple isn't claiming these labs are the only place they do testing.
The really bizarre thing is I've had an iPhone 4 since day 1, I've seen the glitch and until I got a case it had been affecting my data connections, but I still really like this phone! Is Apple turning us all into battered wives?
You said 'data connections' which indicates you use it a lot as a non-cellphone. I am much the same and in fact that's why I own an iPod Touch rather than an iPhone. For my purposes a wifi connection is suitable and the connectivity far less expensive, so my cellphone is an inexpensive throwaway model.
As others have said in various forum threads on this topic recently, the real heavy and experienced 'serious business' cellphone users gravitate away from the ATT network and from Apple's phones. The Apple lineup isn't even really designed for this market. It's a casual phone for casual users designed in parallel with an 'entertainment platform' for mass market consumers. Apple decided that's what they wanted to sell and it's only fair to acknowledge that and not expect more from them.
A lot of the iPhone market at this point is made up of gadgeteers and geeks, and people who buy what's fashionable. Many aren't really heavy cellphone users. It's not surprising that someone like you appreciates other stuff about it in spite of the 'warts' on it as a cell phone. I'd like to have one, too, but I'd want it untethered from monthly billing as a cellphone (for the camera, etc. that my iPod doesn't have.)
Historically, Motorola has been involved in RF testing to the level where they made the test equipment used in labs like these. They also made the critical semiconductors inside everybody's test equipment.
Comparing (historical**) Motorola to Apple as a technology firm is like comparing Mercedes-Bentz to Kia.
(** I say 'historical' because Motorola was 'brand split' and broken apart similar to the way H-P has been in recent times)
Apple is a 'design/marketing' company, not an 'engineering' company. The two types of companies have different approaches to design, and different forces within the company drive development.
H-P used to be an 'engineering' company, and Agilent kinda still is that part.
The sad thing is that the Woz cut his teeth at H-P back when it was one of THE premiere engineering companies. That might have a certain amount to do with why he now has little to do with Apple.
Many companies in many industries have a long term relationship with regulatory agencies (the FDA, the Underwriters Laboratory, etc.) and thus have accredited facilities to do their own certification testing. It always occurs with some amount of oversight by the outside agency. And it isn't something you can do as a newb to an industry, no matter how much $$$ you throw at it.
Apple is a newb to the RF design industry, BTW. Companies like Motorola have had FCC certified products for many decades.
People aren't saying that, but it's not outside the realm of possibilities. Apple has really shitted in their pants on this one, to use a phrase some dude likes using.