I could think of lots of neat nasty tricks to do with that.
So could thousands of malicious but not 'criminal' (in a monetary sense) crackers. The idea of being able to remotely thermite-explode a data center has a certain appeal, ya know. (Preferably when the data center is chock full of people who consider Windows appropriate to run on Servers.)
Who in their right mind keeps important files on a laptop?
Really stupid people. An example would be the typical HR Representative for a company. You know, the woman who sends an email to everybody in the company by writing it with Word and dragging the Word.doc file into an email as an attachment.
There have been numerous instances in the last year of laptops from cretins like this being stolen that had the social security numbers of thousands of employees on them.
Said stupid people, and the kind of management who brings them 'on board,' need to be sued into poverty; they won't be able to do the same social damage when living in a $70 a week rooming house.
You forgot the sorting cost. You need to separate the bronze cents from the bronze-plated zinc cents. The weight and specific gravity of the two types of cent are different, but you need some efficient cheap way of sorting them.
And the end result of your melting operation is bronze, not copper.
You were wise to mention the 'across the boarder' bit since it's illegal to salvage US Cents for their metal. I suspect if your operation scaled up to the point where it was significant, there would be legal repercussions.
You don't need a 'smith's education' for this project. Any dumb art student can be taught to operate a forge to melt bronze.
There's nothing wrong with a market where speculators take a pounding. At least it isn't like the 1920's USSR where speculators were lined up and shot. Yes, it's a fine state of affairs when that particular class of 'suits' is bleeding money...
I know. I was just trying to post as ridiculous a distortion of history as I could and stir up some Britsh pride in the process. I know that the Sinclair machines were designed and produced in the UK, and that the 'Timex' machines were kind of a bastardization.
I had a Sinclair 2068 at one point, right in the middle of America.
I have Windows 95 diskettes in my collection of old Microsoft junk. I have both the 5-1/4" and the 3-1/2" release. If you copy all the 5-1/4" diskettes into a directory and burn it to CDROM you have a complete no-frills copy of the Windows 95 installer that doesn't have Internet anything on it (no Internet Explorer). Further, it doesn't ask for a CD-Key or try to 'fingerprint' itself like images of the 3-1/2" install set does. But that's just deep arcana about Windows 95 install binaries.
I once happened upon one disk out of an install set of Microsoft Office (probably 4.2) on low density 5-1/4" disks. It was numbered something like 'Disk 47.' What a HORROR it would have been to install Office from that huge pile of diskettes. ("Error reading diskette 58. Abort, Retry, Fail?")
I thought the Timex Z80 was a computer that an organization of enteupreurs in Singapore designed, and when it was successful, Clive Sinclair bought the rights from Timex to produce a local version of in England.
It's laughable to see people who seem to accept that 'DOS' machines are 'historic microcomputer' machines. It goes to show that there be young folk here.
It's a rising phenomenon. 'Vintage' copies of Windows 3.1 on eBay, etc. etc.
A VAX system can run a fairly old-school UNIX, and Microvaxes use microprocessors, not discrete logic, so are on-topic to this discussion. A machine capable of 'old school UNIX' (like, say, 4.3BSD-Quasijarus [harhan.org]) is fairly easy to bring up.
And some of the later-model Vaxen are easy-to-handle desktop boxes. Look up a MicroVAX 3100 or something of that nature. They're just as 'historic' as a lot of the stuff (Amiga 500s ?!?!) people are rambling about here.
Every search engine was MILES behind Google. They came along, and all of a sudden you could find what you wanted.
And I contend that the 'breakthrough' at Google was that they scaled up and captured the market. There are no 'magic google sprinklies' that have caused their success. There's no 'magick' arcana that only Google understands. There is, though, a cult of Google mysticism, and a large following of mystic worshippers of the company, but that's typical of any operating religion. This site happens to be the host of the slashbot sect of The Google Religion.
That's a little different from what Yahoo has done. Yahoo gave them a forum to reveal themselves, under the assumption that they were safe to express their opinion. And then sold them out to the authorities. That is far more odious than just shutting down the forum and not providing a phony 'free speech' honeypot.
A VAX system can run a fairly old-school UNIX, and Microvaxes use microprocessors, not discrete logic, so are on-topic to this discussion. A machine capable of 'old school UNIX' (like, say, 4.3BSD-Quasijarus) is fairly easy to bring up.
And some of the later-model Vaxen are easy-to-handle desktop boxes. Look up a MicroVAX 3100 or something of that nature.
I would think narrowing the range to 1976-1979 might be far more interesting. It was when the 'plastic box, bought in department store' stuff came on the scene that things became less interesting.
Yes, you've honed the issue down to where we can agree. The store owner needed to ask them to leave. They were 'guilty of trespass' the second the owner's whim changed, though. You don't have to see the kids throwing rocks at the koi in your backyard garden pond for them to have trespassed to be there. The crime of trespassing doesn't require the property owner to tag the individual for the crime to have been committed. But in the case this whole thread is about, there is a presumption that visitors to the store are welcomed in.
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I could think of lots of neat nasty tricks to do with that.
So could thousands of malicious but not 'criminal' (in a monetary sense) crackers. The idea of being able to remotely thermite-explode a data center has a certain appeal, ya know. (Preferably when the data center is chock full of people who consider Windows appropriate to run on Servers.)
A displayless laptop, or one with no i/o in it at all, would be equally useful and almost as secure.
Who in their right mind keeps important files on a laptop?
.doc file into an email as an attachment.
Really stupid people. An example would be the typical HR Representative for a company. You know, the woman who sends an email to everybody in the company by writing it with Word and dragging the Word
There have been numerous instances in the last year of laptops from cretins like this being stolen that had the social security numbers of thousands of employees on them.
Said stupid people, and the kind of management who brings them 'on board,' need to be sued into poverty; they won't be able to do the same social damage when living in a $70 a week rooming house.
You forgot the sorting cost. You need to separate the bronze cents from the bronze-plated zinc cents. The weight and specific gravity of the two types of cent are different, but you need some efficient cheap way of sorting them.
And the end result of your melting operation is bronze, not copper.
You were wise to mention the 'across the boarder' bit since it's illegal to salvage US Cents for their metal. I suspect if your operation scaled up to the point where it was significant, there would be legal repercussions.
You don't need a 'smith's education' for this project. Any dumb art student can be taught to operate a forge to melt bronze.
Who gets the last laugh then, eh!?
The attendant at the budget-class nursing home gets the last laugh, while your ex is down in Florida enjoying the sun.
There's nothing wrong with a market where speculators take a pounding. At least it isn't like the 1920's USSR where speculators were lined up and shot. Yes, it's a fine state of affairs when that particular class of 'suits' is bleeding money...
I know. I was just trying to post as ridiculous a distortion of history as I could and stir up some Britsh pride in the process. I know that the Sinclair machines were designed and produced in the UK, and that the 'Timex' machines were kind of a bastardization.
I had a Sinclair 2068 at one point, right in the middle of America.
I have Windows 95 diskettes in my collection of old Microsoft junk. I have both the 5-1/4" and the 3-1/2" release. If you copy all the 5-1/4" diskettes into a directory and burn it to CDROM you have a complete no-frills copy of the Windows 95 installer that doesn't have Internet anything on it (no Internet Explorer). Further, it doesn't ask for a CD-Key or try to 'fingerprint' itself like images of the 3-1/2" install set does. But that's just deep arcana about Windows 95 install binaries.
I once happened upon one disk out of an install set of Microsoft Office (probably 4.2) on low density 5-1/4" disks. It was numbered something like 'Disk 47.' What a HORROR it would have been to install Office from that huge pile of diskettes. ("Error reading diskette 58. Abort, Retry, Fail?")
I thought the Timex Z80 was a computer that an organization of enteupreurs in Singapore designed, and when it was successful, Clive Sinclair bought the rights from Timex to produce a local version of in England.
It's laughable to see people who seem to accept that 'DOS' machines are 'historic microcomputer' machines. It goes to show that there be young folk here.
It's a rising phenomenon. 'Vintage' copies of Windows 3.1 on eBay, etc. etc.
A VAX system can run a fairly old-school UNIX, and Microvaxes use microprocessors, not discrete logic, so are on-topic to this discussion. A machine capable of 'old school UNIX' (like, say, 4.3BSD-Quasijarus [harhan.org]) is fairly easy to bring up.
And some of the later-model Vaxen are easy-to-handle desktop boxes. Look up a MicroVAX 3100 or something of that nature. They're just as 'historic' as a lot of the stuff (Amiga 500s ?!?!) people are rambling about here.
Every search engine was MILES behind Google. They came along, and all of a sudden you could find what you wanted.
And I contend that the 'breakthrough' at Google was that they scaled up and captured the market. There are no 'magic google sprinklies' that have caused their success. There's no 'magick' arcana that only Google understands. There is, though, a cult of Google mysticism, and a large following of mystic worshippers of the company, but that's typical of any operating religion. This site happens to be the host of the slashbot sect of The Google Religion.
Nothing more.
That's not going to work for search.
Sure it is! Remember, 'disk compression was hard' in it's time, too. So have a lot of 'solved problem' tasks that are now now surmounted.
That's a little different from what Yahoo has done. Yahoo gave them a forum to reveal themselves, under the assumption that they were safe to express their opinion. And then sold them out to the authorities. That is far more odious than just shutting down the forum and not providing a phony 'free speech' honeypot.
A SYM-1 is a reasonable alternative, since Synertek was the second-source producer of the 6502.
Not as cultish a single-board and fairly easy to acquire on eBay.
A VAX system can run a fairly old-school UNIX, and Microvaxes use microprocessors, not discrete logic, so are on-topic to this discussion. A machine capable of 'old school UNIX' (like, say, 4.3BSD-Quasijarus) is fairly easy to bring up.
And some of the later-model Vaxen are easy-to-handle desktop boxes. Look up a MicroVAX 3100 or something of that nature.
I would think narrowing the range to 1976-1979 might be far more interesting. It was when the 'plastic box, bought in department store' stuff came on the scene that things became less interesting.
China is at least pretty clear about what they want, and upfront.
I take it you're posting your message from China. You clearly know a lot about the place.
The mainframe is not the hardware you want when it comes to getting the math on.
Similarly, the embedded controller in my mouse is not the hardware you want when it comes to getting the math on.
But what was your point?
EMC, one of the market leaders in SANs was formerly part of Data General.
Data General wasn't a Mainframe vendor. They produced Minicomputers, not mainframes.
All that link provided was a redirect to a snopes page.
But if ever there were two technologies that the government would block from commercial adoption, these would be them.
Indeed, and hence they're the 'technologies' that nuts and cranks happily weave into their stories.
They're (ever so) slightly more up-to-date on the Space Shuttle than that.
There was a problem earlier, though, when a metric chamberpot was installed in error...
Yes, you've honed the issue down to where we can agree. The store owner needed to ask them to leave. They were 'guilty of trespass' the second the owner's whim changed, though. You don't have to see the kids throwing rocks at the koi in your backyard garden pond for them to have trespassed to be there. The crime of trespassing doesn't require the property owner to tag the individual for the crime to have been committed. But in the case this whole thread is about, there is a presumption that visitors to the store are welcomed in.
Of course, first I'd actually have to own a polo shirt...
The polo shirt is the 'business casual' uniform of choice. If you don't own one, you are either a 'suit' or still in school.
(or a dirty hippie, but let's not go there...)