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Yahoo Rejects Microsoft Search Offer
mytrip writes to mention a Financial Times article detailing Microsoft's apparent interest in Yahoo!, and Yahoo!'s rude reaction to their interest. From the article: "The fight is on between the three internet search titans, after Yahoo's Terry Semel laid down the gauntlet to Microsoft saying the software giant's recently elevated ambitions in the search arena were a lost cause. 'My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance. The search business has been formed,' he said in an interview with the New Yorker's Ken Auletta."
"The search business has been formed", that was what I heard when Yahoo was teh king, and guess who came in and took over the search business?
Virtual Betting on Facebook for non-geeks.
"famous last words"
And I'm not sure who I dislike more at this point.
At least Microsoft hasn't been handing political prisoners over to the Chinese government.
Yahoo rules :-D.
"My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance. The search business has been formed,' he said in an interview with the New Yorker's Ken Auletta."
Nice...
"My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance. The search business has been formed,"
I dunno, that sounds similar to the boasts made by almost every large company head right before they get their ass handed to them by someone.
I hate Yahoo search, I REALLY hate MSN search... If they had combined I may have spontaneously combusted from the new, dangerously high levels of hatred coursing through my veins. That was close.
MS Rep: Hey baby, how 'bout lettin' big daddy in on a piece o' that action?
Y! Rep: Oh no you dit'in! Oh no you dit'in! (gesticulates the talk-to-the-hand)
Slashdot? Oh, I just read it for the articles.
TWW
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
Be very afraid. One thing that sets Microsoft apart from many of its competitors is persistence when it comes to products and technologies that are important to Microsoft's core business. Add to that the fact that MS has a huge multi-billion $$ war chest and their dominant position in the operating systems and web browsers and you see that they have not only the will but also the resources to be persistent. This battle won't be over any time soon.
"My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance. The search business has been formed..."
As far as I recall, The Internet Browser business was formed when Netscape dominated the field.
How long did it take for them to be wiped out by a free bundled package? All Microsoft have to do is add a "Search" button on their standard desktop and claim it is an integral part of their operating system.
don't see what Yahoo really has to gain with MSN? I like google so I use it. My Girl Friend prefers Yahoo. And I am sure someone out there prefers MSN. But most of the sites they all have. If I find one search method is becoming to tedious then I use an other one. Combining Yahoo and MSN would hurt Yahoo. First there is the people who just don't use MS. Stuff when possible which would be around 10% of the population (Figuring most Linux users and Apple users alternative OS users, and windows users who are afraid of Microsoft dominance but only know windows. ). Yahoo will need to split their advertising dollars with MS. Any software improvements probably wont affect the bottom line. And it will do nothing against Google. Google is a verb in the english language now. When the company branding becomes imbedded in the culture it is difficult to change it. Like Jello and Kleenex other companies can sell similar products but the culture still thinks of the brand name. Going with Yahoo will only benefit MS. And at best Yahoo will loose nothing, but in reality yahoo my loose more.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
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People Talking in Movie shows.. people smoking in bed.. people voting republican.. GIVE THEM A BOOT TO THE HEAD!
The only search engine with less traffic than Microsoft's is AOL's, and a number of more obscure ones.
Yahoo is receiving more than twice their traffic, and likely ad revenue potential as well.
There'd be a lot to win for Microsoft if joining forces with Yahoo, but I'm not sure Yahoo would sacrifice their image. If their managers have any sense, they know it's important to preserve your identity, especially if you're quite far ahead.
This just looks like a cry for help from Microsoft's side, now that their second (?) "Google Killer" with "Live Search" (a very idiotic name too; why not "Microsoft Search"?) has probably failed just as bad as their updated MSN Search they did a few years back.
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I predict this will probably appear in the news in the next few weeks.
"And in a surprising move, Microsoft has chosen to make live.com the default homepage any new Internet Explorer installation."
Microsoft 1, Yahoo -screwed-
'My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance. The search business has been formed,'
Because Microsoft's entire history hasn't been one of moving in to an area where other people have worked out how to do things and then doing them better/cheaper/faster.
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If he had googled for "dictionary impartial" he would not have made such an egregious error. ZB
While MS might have problems breaking into a full search system, there is a ton of room for a company that can do one thing really well.
Look at ISO Hunt. They picked an area and really cached in on it.
My advice to MS: become the best video game search engine out there. It'd be really easy. Have a box to search and buttons to look for reviews, purchace, FAQs/walkthroughs, and cheats.
Hell, you could pick anything. But do one thing and do it really well.
I'd rather you do it wrong, than for me to have to do it at all.
Apparently the authors didn't bother to check the site that points to. This "mytrip" who wrote that in left a nice little URL to their homepage apparently, which was just copied and pasted into the article pointing you to their nice little commercial website. Apparently, any commercial website wanting hits can expect to just submit an article suggestion. Next thing you know, Slashdot will be taken over by all the little commercial websites wanting their own free advertising on a site so well known for the hits it generates that it is it's own term -- Slashdotted. (Guess you'd better be confident in your servers before doing that mind.)
Please slashdot editors, check the homepage before posting it for the world to see. For all you know someone could be linking to a site selling (yes selling) illegal child porn or something, and then you'd be up to your necks in it since that is the current buzz word in the courts.
Terry Semel of Yahoo! corporation was found dead this morning. At this point the cause of death is being attributed to a chair leg that is still lodged deeply inside the victim's skull. Police have ruled out accidental death and are compiling a list of suspects.
My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance,' [Yahoo's Terry Semel] said.
When asked for comment, Google's representative, CATS, said, "Ohhh, no, no, no. All your search are belong to us."
A couple of times now live.com has surprised me. My google fu is pretty strong, but sometimes, particularly when i'm not sure what someone might have called something specific, it can be a hassle to get something relevant. This last time I was looking for the code to skip directly to a human at Ameritrade, knowing that such repositories exist. Google seemed determined to give me crap. After looking 3 pages deep, and trying a couple of different google-jitsues, crap had won the day on google. I took my last google search over to live.com, boom first link. There was crap on the first page too, but right on top was EXACTLY what I was looking for. Not 3 pages deep, not 10 pages deep. And that's about the 3rd time it's happened.
I probably would never have tried if it wasn't for the haters on slashdot indirectly pimping it. (If idiots hate it can it be all bad?) I love google like I love comfortable old shoes. It's familiar, and it knows what I like. But they eventually breakdown, and you keep seeing those sharp new Air Jordans and you wonder if they really do up your game....
Also, Yahoo! is ass.
Read my comment. Third paragraph, third sentence.
Back in the day it would have taken a genius, but Microsoft got to borrow ideas that have been published by other people.
No one's published how Google is doing search. It's a trade secret. It won't be hard the moment that they do.
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Really, why should they?
I don't see what Yahoo has to gain by partnering with MSN. I like Google, so I use it. My girlfriend prefers Yahoo, and I am sure someone out there prefers MSN. But most sites can be found by all three. If I find that one search engine is becoming too tedious, I use another one.
Combining Yahoo and MSN would hurt Yahoo. First, about 10% of the population doesn't use MS stuff if they can avoid it (most Linux and Apple users, and Windows users who are afraid of Microsoft's dominance, but are only familiar with Windows). Second, Yahoo will have to split its advertising money with MS. Third, software improvements would probably not affect the bottom line. And it won't help their battle against Google.
By now, Google has become a verb in English. When a company's branding becomes so embedded in the culture, it is difficult to displace it. Like with 'Jello' and 'Kleenex' - other companies sell similar products but these are synonymous with the original brand names.
Partnering with Yahoo will only benefit MS, and, at best, Yahoo will lose nothing. But more probable is that Yahoo comes out on the losing side.
Bull, meet red rag..
Guess we know there's only one thing left for Microsoft to do... buy Google.
'My impartial advice to Microsoft is that you have no chance. The search business has been formed,'
Yeah, cuz he's got nothing to gain or lose in this battle... impartial my aunt Susie!
Other things like Launchcast, albeit Windows-only, only reinforce that view.
Obviously there's a search engine behind it to bring it all together, but I honestly see them as more a content provider.
...Google floated their IPO?
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This sounds familiar (Marc Andreessen).
Garry Williams
It is not like Yahoo! and Microsoft are even serious players in the search market. They've got less market share combined than Apple has in de desktop computer market.
One of them *might* gain market share if it introduces new technologies that makes its service much better than Google's. I don't see that happening anytime soon. Probably some startup company will take Google's crown when the introduce something that's really better.
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Second toughest guy quotes "You have no chance bear, the tough person in bar market is formed"
Meanwhile the toughest buy in the bar is buying a shotgun and bear hunting license, and getting to a safer shooting distance.
I'm a fiscal conservative, it's a pity we don't have a political party anymore
I remember earlier times of XBox Sony kind of publicly warned Microsoft that "electronic device business is very different".
I don't even dare to search news for "sony" "xbox" etc, perhaps an actual console fan/user find a link for it.
Microsoft ignored the warning and the first story came after Xbox ships in Japan that it actually SCRATCHED a certain type of DVDs physically.
It would be nice to keep some sort of competition out there. With games consoles, search, tv, and everything else, I don't want to end up giving more to Microsoft in a year than I do to the government in tax!
Does anyone really doubt that MS can (and will) scream ahead of Yahoo in market share in the coming years? Yahoo is a relic of the early interent, with little innovation on its side. Google is a whole other affair, where I don't see MS winning. At least not unless they do much something better than their live site.
What makes this different from all those other boasts?
It was spoken in Klingon, in a tone usually reserved before the drawing of bat'leths.
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As soon as MSN search produces somewhat usefull results (and now they do) they will have at least 50% market share among systems that have MSN search on default.
Personal estimate, wait for 2 years and see for yourself.
Digg mentions a video interview with Yahoo!'s CEO, Terry Semel. One of the topics was mentioned about this MS and search (e.g., no room in search market for MS, etc.).
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Microsoft and Yahoo should stop this stupid talk about merging (look at the mess Carly left behind at HP!) and both stick to what they do best:
* Microsoft at releasing buggy, overpriced operating systems years late.
* Yahoo on helping the Chinese Government jail people who seek freedom.
See title.
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