I'd say mod parent up but it's already modded through the roof. That comment pretty much says it all. Remember what VeriSign pulled just a couple of years ago? This is exactly the same thing, just with some extra beef wrapped around.
Another thing that bothers is - Does a system require Vista to run Office-07?
No, it will run just as well on Windows XP. Not sure about older versions of Windows...
There is no (decent?) age verification on MySpace, but I can not find any story saying the boy actually lied about his age. He lied about being a football team captain, but age? Not sure there.
As it should -- Gmail isn't passing on the X-Orig mailer field, which is why they got spamlisted. Just because they're big doesn't mean they don't need to play nice.
It seems as though they intend "proof of concept" to mean "Yes, it *IS* possible to manipulate this software with a virus, had we wanted to."
Congratulations. That's what it means indeed.
It's comical to see some of the rediculous things that go on in the closed source community. I like being able to change the ip address of a server if I have to. I don't need a license holding me back from doing that.
Well, in the closed source community, we just put that kind of stuff in config files instead of in the source code. You should try it.
People can spread all the FUD they want about open source,...
"... and I will do the same about closed source.". Yeap. I noticed.
Uh, only in DOS (Windows). In the rest of the universe, the OS does not handle files with text or "binary" differently.
Congratu-fscking-lations. Last time I checked, Office was running under Windows.. No?
Don't post when you're ignorant of the topic at hand. First off: I hate XML, so I can't believe I'm defending it here, but compare:
[snip]
Right. Insult first, fire irrelevant truth later. I'm not at all disagreeing with what you say (to the contrary), but it has nothing to do with my original point. Thank you, come again.
ODT XML files are binary files. So are old Word 2003.doc files. So are Microsoft's new XML files. So it's pointless to claim that a "binary" file format is faster than an XML file format.
When people say "binary files" they mean this as opposed to "text files", a seperation that stems from the ability to open a file for in "binary" or "textfile" modus in several APIs. Has to do with, amongst others, interpretation of control codes such as ^Z.
The other big mistake: file formats aren't fast or slow. The algorithms for reading and writing them are (or aren't) slow.
*slaps cheek* NO WAI!
You fail to see the point of what they're saying. They're saying a binary file, with a header and fixed data structures, are alot easier to read & parse than an XML file, which consists of structures of variable length, needs to be interpreted, etc etc etc. This is a problem with XML.
PlagiarismToday offers a thought-provoking article that frankly discusses concerns with plagiarism and rote content theft among bloggers. In the section entitled "Block quotes by the Dozen" the author mentions the so-called "gray area". That is PlagiarismToday's classification of the common blogger practice of re-using large blocks of text/content from the original article or source, even when the source is attributed." I agree completely.
This guy is so right!
I was just voiding the 'nothing in common' statement. Besides, where do you read the software maintenance time (updates etc) is included in the calculation? Is "Installing", "Updating",... equal to "Using" the software?
They have nothing in comment, except for in the first model you pay for the amount of time you are using the computer, and in the second model you... pay for the amount of time you are using the computer?
Computers at schools and libraries shouldn't be used for chatting or whatever those 'social networks' expect you to do, right? Around here it's an established rule that you're using those computers for research or educational surfing. Can't help but think that's somewhat normal.
I wouldn't be so sure. My sister-in-law died of cancer at the ripe-old age of 25, and I'm sure there are many other slashdotters that personally knew someone who died of cancer prior to reaching 30.
Good, so most slashdotters are safe for the next 15-20 years! Just kidding, you guys are hoots;)
Sad thing is that it still isn't transferrable to humans. From what I've read, it also works for pigs, rats and mice, but not humans.. Oh well, give or take another 20 years, I've got time...
Even if the extra content is included (making for a hefty download), that still doesn't justify the price tag, seeing how the download is locked to one machine.
Add to that the fact that they don't have any packaging/distribution costs, and the cost of the bandwidth is also limited thanks to the nature of BitTorrent.
On a side note, will this mean I'm going to download a bunch of movies which suddently run out of seeders when I'm at 99% ?
I'm not saying this is the way it should be interpreted, but when I read the post I thought it sounded as if Microsoft was saying that Office had features ODF did not support and so saving your document as ODF would open the possibility of losing those features.
Apart from that, this has been the case virtually every time you chose to export a document from whatever source to whatever format, so I don't really see why there is such a big fuzz about all of it. Having one dedicated format for 'office documents' is nice, and if you want to use the 'additional features', well, just save in the proprietary format. After all, how many of those features are used by real people in real life writing real documents?
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I'd say mod parent up but it's already modded through the roof. That comment pretty much says it all. Remember what VeriSign pulled just a couple of years ago? This is exactly the same thing, just with some extra beef wrapped around.
"Microsoft".. Check!
5 888437378&q=soulwax - hurray!
"iPod".. Check!
"Killer".. Check!
Hmm, this is missing "Google".. Wait, I'll throw in a link to a nice iPod commercial spoof hosted there! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=579193244
Another thing that bothers is - Does a system require Vista to run Office-07?
No, it will run just as well on Windows XP. Not sure about older versions of Windows...
Parent reminded me of a specific scene from That 70's Show, if anyone used to watch that (yea, it's crap now):
[some executive announces the start of a Q&A round]
"Just so we're clear, the 'Q' stands for Questions and the 'A' for Answers."
I still don't understand why people consider this a good thing...
There is no (decent?) age verification on MySpace, but I can not find any story saying the boy actually lied about his age. He lied about being a football team captain, but age? Not sure there.
Money money money...
As it should -- Gmail isn't passing on the X-Orig mailer field, which is why they got spamlisted. Just because they're big doesn't mean they don't need to play nice.
I bet he just wants to make sure he makes it into heaven after all...
.. what we're really concerned about: Høw many møøses gøt killed?
That's why God invented Print Versions: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vis ta/print.html
It seems as though they intend "proof of concept" to mean "Yes, it *IS* possible to manipulate this software with a virus, had we wanted to."
Congratulations. That's what it means indeed.
I new copyright law was passed in July last year, as mentioned on Linux Reviews, but that doesn't really answer the question "Why now?".
It's comical to see some of the rediculous things that go on in the closed source community. I like being able to change the ip address of a server if I have to. I don't need a license holding me back from doing that.
...
Well, in the closed source community, we just put that kind of stuff in config files instead of in the source code. You should try it.
People can spread all the FUD they want about open source,
"... and I will do the same about closed source.". Yeap. I noticed.
Uh, only in DOS (Windows). In the rest of the universe, the OS does not handle files with text or "binary" differently.
Congratu-fscking-lations. Last time I checked, Office was running under Windows.. No?
Don't post when you're ignorant of the topic at hand. First off: I hate XML, so I can't believe I'm defending it here, but compare:
[snip]
Right. Insult first, fire irrelevant truth later. I'm not at all disagreeing with what you say (to the contrary), but it has nothing to do with my original point. Thank you, come again.
+5 Insightful? Oh PLEASE!
.doc files. So are Microsoft's new XML files. So it's pointless to claim that a "binary" file format is faster than an XML file format.
ODT XML files are binary files. So are old Word 2003
When people say "binary files" they mean this as opposed to "text files", a seperation that stems from the ability to open a file for in "binary" or "textfile" modus in several APIs. Has to do with, amongst others, interpretation of control codes such as ^Z.
The other big mistake: file formats aren't fast or slow. The algorithms for reading and writing them are (or aren't) slow.
*slaps cheek* NO WAI!
You fail to see the point of what they're saying. They're saying a binary file, with a header and fixed data structures, are alot easier to read & parse than an XML file, which consists of structures of variable length, needs to be interpreted, etc etc etc. This is a problem with XML.
PlagiarismToday offers a thought-provoking article that frankly discusses concerns with plagiarism and rote content theft among bloggers. In the section entitled "Block quotes by the Dozen" the author mentions the so-called "gray area". That is PlagiarismToday's classification of the common blogger practice of re-using large blocks of text/content from the original article or source, even when the source is attributed." I agree completely.
This guy is so right!
I was just voiding the 'nothing in common' statement. Besides, where do you read the software maintenance time (updates etc) is included in the calculation? Is "Installing", "Updating", ... equal to "Using" the software?
They have nothing in comment, except for in the first model you pay for the amount of time you are using the computer, and in the second model you... pay for the amount of time you are using the computer?
Oh, right...
Computers at schools and libraries shouldn't be used for chatting or whatever those 'social networks' expect you to do, right? Around here it's an established rule that you're using those computers for research or educational surfing. Can't help but think that's somewhat normal.
I wouldn't be so sure. My sister-in-law died of cancer at the ripe-old age of 25, and I'm sure there are many other slashdotters that personally knew someone who died of cancer prior to reaching 30.
;)
Good, so most slashdotters are safe for the next 15-20 years! Just kidding, you guys are hoots
Sad thing is that it still isn't transferrable to humans. From what I've read, it also works for pigs, rats and mice, but not humans.. Oh well, give or take another 20 years, I've got time...
Even if the extra content is included (making for a hefty download), that still doesn't justify the price tag, seeing how the download is locked to one machine.
Add to that the fact that they don't have any packaging/distribution costs, and the cost of the bandwidth is also limited thanks to the nature of BitTorrent.
On a side note, will this mean I'm going to download a bunch of movies which suddently run out of seeders when I'm at 99% ?
I'm not saying this is the way it should be interpreted, but when I read the post I thought it sounded as if Microsoft was saying that Office had features ODF did not support and so saving your document as ODF would open the possibility of losing those features.
Apart from that, this has been the case virtually every time you chose to export a document from whatever source to whatever format, so I don't really see why there is such a big fuzz about all of it. Having one dedicated format for 'office documents' is nice, and if you want to use the 'additional features', well, just save in the proprietary format. After all, how many of those features are used by real people in real life writing real documents?
Does KOffice have features OOo/StarOffice don't have? Is it's performance better? If not, their point is still valid.