It doesn't address anything. It's unenforceable and it lowers demand for their goods. The practical result will be that they pay even less people to do more work.
As long as people are willing to work for that amount, it's a problem that's not going to go away no matter what extreme and impractical scenario you run it through. What they need to do is lower their supply of labor. If the workers won't risk their lives for that little amount of money, then it won't matter what laws there are, what taxes are in place, or how ethical their clients are.
The third choice is that we specify in our contracts with foreign manufacturers that they are to use type X methods (safe but more expensive) than type Y methods (cheaper but poisonous to the workers) and that we are willing to pay the premium involved.
Less profit flows, fewer people get paid.
Sure they do. But when we're telling their bully, "here's the next payment, we don't care so long as we get our shiny toys", we are siding with their bully and that makes it a lot harder for them.
Then they sell to other people who don't give a shit. Meanwhile, fewer people have jobs at all because of lowered demand.
They have an excessive supply of labor. That is not our problem to solve and it is not one we CAN solve without buying heaps more stuff.
So is it their problem then that there are homeless people near where I live?
Seriously, the US is supposed to keep its nose out of everybody's business... but now we're supposed to set the example. So which is it? Do we starve them by not buying their products or do we exploit them by buying them?
Either is fine, but what are THEY doing to solve their OWN problems? Call that apathy if you like, but the critical factor that is being glossed over in order to criticize the US here is that they are allowing this to happen. It doesn't matter how many insightful-mod-bait rhetoric you spew, they still need to stand up and defend themselves.
The root of the problem is the same blissful, ignorant indifference that is causing the USA to become a soft-tyranny style police state. The products' marketing don't mention the working conditions that made it available at that price....
Our government takes steps to protect our workers and we expect the Chinese gov't to do the same. Of course we're apathetic, it's not our problem.
I'd be more worried about the fact that majority of consumers don't update their Acrobat Reader on PCs. Clicking "Update Later" button has become something you get to click every time you reboot the computer.
a.) That's like once a month.
b.) It INSISTS on closing ANY browser that's open, even folders with the same name as a browser in order to update.
Their behaviour is unwise, but it's understandable.
I’m paying $50 a month for a phone I rarely, if ever use... This is why I’m offering up 3 reasons why canceling your cell phone plan might be a good idea.
Whether it's technically possible to defeat the system isn't the issue. If you're trying to force kids' presence with technological measures rather than encourage leaning and enthusiasm socially, you're doing something wrong. Especially since this is talking about older kids. Try giving them something fun to do, instead of demanding they bio-retina-dna scan in after recess.
Though I agree, I have to admit they are learning some real-world problem solving skills, here. I mean, they should get SOME credit for understanding the finger-printing system enough to fool it.
Up to the point young Jennifer sees old Jennifer, old Jennifer can't remember seeing young Jennifer because it's not a done deal yet. Time is still in the process of being changed.
It's even messier than that. Young Jennifer will remember meeting Old Jennifer. Young Jennifer will turn into Old Jennifer. Old Jennifer will now react differently to meeting the new Young Jennifer. New Young Jennifer will become new Old Jennifer. This cycle will go on infinitely, hence the reality-destroying paradox (that may only be localized to our galaxy) the Doc warned about. There's a decent chance that 'surprise' wasn't the only factor in her trip to sleepyland.
You mean to tell me that in the movie about the time travelling, flying delorean, that runs variously on a fusion engine and stolen libyan plutonium, that there's something unrealistic about the plot of that movie? NOOOO! haha.
Tee hee. A slashdot nerd pretending he doesn't understand the concept of suspension of disbelief is furrrneee! ha ha ha *SnORt*
Notepad is my favorite specialty browser. You name the file (url).txt, and it instantly renders the website as a blank page- think of all the clutter you don't have to deal with! Plus, you can add in whatever text you want- ever wanted to make microsoft.com say "Linux rules!"? Well now you can! I can't imagine how anyone could want anything else.
The first thing people coming from FireFox will notice is the print feature really works!
Engaging customer base = good. However, simply because something works on the micro level doesn't mean it scales to the macro level. I somehow doubt that having hundreds of artists flood 4chan would result in all of them getting increases in sales.
If this were a new thing you might have a point. However, in Japan they have their own equivalent of comic-con and people make their own fan-zines and sell them for a profit. It's technically illegal but they never get shut down. The reason is that excitement over a franchise is still excitement over a franchise. This was known over 10 years ago but nobody over here is paying attention to it. It's amusing to me because the same country that's known for its $4 cups of coffee is under the impression people will go to extremes to avoid paying money for stuff.
Engaging your customer base is good for business...
People looking for entertainment spend more money when they have more fun. That's one of the main reasons actual losses due to piracy aren't calculatable.
I apologize, that was an error on my part. That was in reference to your comment about Steve Jobs and his desire to get rid of windowing.
Time will tell I guess. If you look at the Mac App Store guidelines, you'll see that Apple are moving very definitely in the direction of iOS in terms of control over binaries on their platform and guiding developers to use just one tool-chain. There are a lot of clauses in there (including the exclusion of Java) which are very unusual for a desktop OS.
Sure, but the logic doesn't follow that OSX will be locked down to where you can only use the app store. It's like watching a guy remove a wheel from his bike and claiming he's converting it into an exercise bicycle, even though he has a perfectly nice one already in his garage. It doesn't make sense because he already has one and it's a deceptively huge leap from bicycle to exer-cycle. He could take a jackhammer to the nearby bike path and cast votes to make it illegal to ride bicycles on the street and that STILL wouldn't say he's actually making an excer-cycle. They're not connected. It's tempting to think they are, but they're not, even if he does end up doing just that.
Well, take this with a grain of salt, but this [zdnet.com] would indicate he's done some programming. He's believed to have written a BASIC interpreter
There's some interesting stuff in his Wikipedia page, too. However, you've already said enough to validate my point. You also managed to write a really nice rebuttal to a bunch of stuff I didn't say. Heh.
And yet, that's what they're doing for Lion - adding app signing, deprecating other languages and toolchains, adding mandatory sandboxing (at present it's only the Mac Store agreement, watch it spread)
As to changing the desktop UI - I suspect you're a lot more wedded to menu bars and windows than Jobs is.
That is an odd conclusion to draw considering the origins of iOS.
...that's why deprecating Java and banning Java from the app store is an important clue that they're headed towards iOS in spirit...
Sony bashing is fun, and pretty much always well deserved, but saying the playstation controller is worse than a controller that had not one, not two, but three different ways of holding it, depending on which buttons you wanted to use, is just stupid.
Worse than the GameCube controllers, and worse than the N64 controllers.
That wasn't hard to do, both those controllers were at the top of their respective generations.
Why go to all the trouble of hardware hacks and improvements on technology that is that old? There are better ways.
The best way is to use the hardware that the software natively runs on. The specs of the machine aren't what makes an emulator 'reliable'. You should try playing with MAME and 90's video games a bit and you'll be a much better judge of what the 'better ways' are.
...and Steve is probably itching to reinvent UIs again and tell us we don't need overlapping windows and a menu bar after all (both integral to desktop OSs up to now).
This alone should be a big blinking clue that the path you're wandering down isn't making that much sense.
Making OSX work like iOS right now is a good deal more work than just mucking around with UI calls. You have to disable running of interpreted languages, completely sandbox each app, disable making files 'executable', and a whole slew of other things that the OS in its current design philosophy is taking for granted. It's stupid and it makes no sense to do that when iOS is already there.
The best clue you're ever going to get that they're headed that way is if they release a 'netbook' or an iMac running iOS. Until that happens, it's just earn-an-insightful-mod fiction.
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It doesn't address anything. It's unenforceable and it lowers demand for their goods. The practical result will be that they pay even less people to do more work.
As long as people are willing to work for that amount, it's a problem that's not going to go away no matter what extreme and impractical scenario you run it through. What they need to do is lower their supply of labor. If the workers won't risk their lives for that little amount of money, then it won't matter what laws there are, what taxes are in place, or how ethical their clients are.
The third choice is that we specify in our contracts with foreign manufacturers that they are to use type X methods (safe but more expensive) than type Y methods (cheaper but poisonous to the workers) and that we are willing to pay the premium involved.
Less profit flows, fewer people get paid.
Sure they do. But when we're telling their bully, "here's the next payment, we don't care so long as we get our shiny toys", we are siding with their bully and that makes it a lot harder for them.
Then they sell to other people who don't give a shit. Meanwhile, fewer people have jobs at all because of lowered demand.
They have an excessive supply of labor. That is not our problem to solve and it is not one we CAN solve without buying heaps more stuff.
So is it their problem then that there are homeless people near where I live?
Seriously, the US is supposed to keep its nose out of everybody's business... but now we're supposed to set the example. So which is it? Do we starve them by not buying their products or do we exploit them by buying them?
Either is fine, but what are THEY doing to solve their OWN problems? Call that apathy if you like, but the critical factor that is being glossed over in order to criticize the US here is that they are allowing this to happen. It doesn't matter how many insightful-mod-bait rhetoric you spew, they still need to stand up and defend themselves.
The root of the problem is the same blissful, ignorant indifference that is causing the USA to become a soft-tyranny style police state. The products' marketing don't mention the working conditions that made it available at that price....
Our government takes steps to protect our workers and we expect the Chinese gov't to do the same. Of course we're apathetic, it's not our problem.
I'd be more worried about the fact that majority of consumers don't update their Acrobat Reader on PCs. Clicking "Update Later" button has become something you get to click every time you reboot the computer.
a.) That's like once a month.
b.) It INSISTS on closing ANY browser that's open, even folders with the same name as a browser in order to update.
Their behaviour is unwise, but it's understandable.
I’m paying $50 a month for a phone I rarely, if ever use... This is why I’m offering up 3 reasons why canceling your cell phone plan might be a good idea.
*smirk*
Whether it's technically possible to defeat the system isn't the issue. If you're trying to force kids' presence with technological measures rather than encourage leaning and enthusiasm socially, you're doing something wrong. Especially since this is talking about older kids. Try giving them something fun to do, instead of demanding they bio-retina-dna scan in after recess.
Though I agree, I have to admit they are learning some real-world problem solving skills, here. I mean, they should get SOME credit for understanding the finger-printing system enough to fool it.
It wasn't taken down at MS's request.
If I created a botnet, then used it to force all the computers to run Folding@Home. Would I still be evil?
Yes.
I wager 1,000,000 quatloos that it won't be released that month.
What software project two years out would likely make that date? Reaaaaaaaal 'Insightful'.
Up to the point young Jennifer sees old Jennifer, old Jennifer can't remember seeing young Jennifer because it's not a done deal yet. Time is still in the process of being changed.
It's even messier than that. Young Jennifer will remember meeting Old Jennifer. Young Jennifer will turn into Old Jennifer. Old Jennifer will now react differently to meeting the new Young Jennifer. New Young Jennifer will become new Old Jennifer. This cycle will go on infinitely, hence the reality-destroying paradox (that may only be localized to our galaxy) the Doc warned about. There's a decent chance that 'surprise' wasn't the only factor in her trip to sleepyland.
You mean to tell me that in the movie about the time travelling, flying delorean, that runs variously on a fusion engine and stolen libyan plutonium, that there's something unrealistic about the plot of that movie? NOOOO!
haha.
Tee hee. A slashdot nerd pretending he doesn't understand the concept of suspension of disbelief is furrrneee! ha ha ha *SnORt*
Notepad is my favorite specialty browser. You name the file (url).txt, and it instantly renders the website as a blank page- think of all the clutter you don't have to deal with! Plus, you can add in whatever text you want- ever wanted to make microsoft.com say "Linux rules!"? Well now you can! I can't imagine how anyone could want anything else.
The first thing people coming from FireFox will notice is the print feature really works!
Theft? Speaking of spin....
Engaging customer base = good. However, simply because something works on the micro level doesn't mean it scales to the macro level. I somehow doubt that having hundreds of artists flood 4chan would result in all of them getting increases in sales.
If this were a new thing you might have a point. However, in Japan they have their own equivalent of comic-con and people make their own fan-zines and sell them for a profit. It's technically illegal but they never get shut down. The reason is that excitement over a franchise is still excitement over a franchise. This was known over 10 years ago but nobody over here is paying attention to it. It's amusing to me because the same country that's known for its $4 cups of coffee is under the impression people will go to extremes to avoid paying money for stuff.
Engaging your customer base is good for business...
People looking for entertainment spend more money when they have more fun. That's one of the main reasons actual losses due to piracy aren't calculatable.
Sorry, what does this refer to?
I apologize, that was an error on my part. That was in reference to your comment about Steve Jobs and his desire to get rid of windowing.
Time will tell I guess. If you look at the Mac App Store guidelines, you'll see that Apple are moving very definitely in the direction of iOS in terms of control over binaries on their platform and guiding developers to use just one tool-chain. There are a lot of clauses in there (including the exclusion of Java) which are very unusual for a desktop OS.
Sure, but the logic doesn't follow that OSX will be locked down to where you can only use the app store. It's like watching a guy remove a wheel from his bike and claiming he's converting it into an exercise bicycle, even though he has a perfectly nice one already in his garage. It doesn't make sense because he already has one and it's a deceptively huge leap from bicycle to exer-cycle. He could take a jackhammer to the nearby bike path and cast votes to make it illegal to ride bicycles on the street and that STILL wouldn't say he's actually making an excer-cycle. They're not connected. It's tempting to think they are, but they're not, even if he does end up doing just that.
Well, take this with a grain of salt, but this [zdnet.com] would indicate he's done some programming. He's believed to have written a BASIC interpreter
There's some interesting stuff in his Wikipedia page, too. However, you've already said enough to validate my point. You also managed to write a really nice rebuttal to a bunch of stuff I didn't say. Heh.
Honestly, why do all of you perpetuate this bullshit that Bill actually designed or wrote anything?
Look it up.
Anybody got something more definitive?
No programmer would ever, in the history of computing, say any amount of resources is enough?
And yet, that's what they're doing for Lion - adding app signing, deprecating other languages and toolchains, adding mandatory sandboxing (at present it's only the Mac Store agreement, watch it spread)
As to changing the desktop UI - I suspect you're a lot more wedded to menu bars and windows than Jobs is.
That is an odd conclusion to draw considering the origins of iOS.
...that's why deprecating Java and banning Java from the app store is an important clue that they're headed towards iOS in spirit...
No, it isn't.
Geeks have a pasion for gadgets that actually do something....
Hahaha!
Sony bashing is fun, and pretty much always well deserved, but saying the playstation controller is worse than a controller that had not one, not two, but three different ways of holding it, depending on which buttons you wanted to use, is just stupid.
I don't own or use any of them...
*Smirk*
Worse than the GameCube controllers, and worse than the N64 controllers.
That wasn't hard to do, both those controllers were at the top of their respective generations.
Why go to all the trouble of hardware hacks and improvements on technology that is that old? There are better ways.
The best way is to use the hardware that the software natively runs on. The specs of the machine aren't what makes an emulator 'reliable'. You should try playing with MAME and 90's video games a bit and you'll be a much better judge of what the 'better ways' are.
...and Steve is probably itching to reinvent UIs again and tell us we don't need overlapping windows and a menu bar after all (both integral to desktop OSs up to now).
This alone should be a big blinking clue that the path you're wandering down isn't making that much sense.
Making OSX work like iOS right now is a good deal more work than just mucking around with UI calls. You have to disable running of interpreted languages, completely sandbox each app, disable making files 'executable', and a whole slew of other things that the OS in its current design philosophy is taking for granted. It's stupid and it makes no sense to do that when iOS is already there.
The best clue you're ever going to get that they're headed that way is if they release a 'netbook' or an iMac running iOS. Until that happens, it's just earn-an-insightful-mod fiction.