How does not making these signatures part of the public record prevent the elections office from verifying them?
Are they going to verify that they exist, or that they signed them? I'm just thinking it'd give people a chance to say "I didn't sign this!" I'm going to be honest here, I watch too much Simpsons. I'm imagining dead people 'signing' these petitions.
In this case, the big fear is about being outed. The harassment isn't going to come from the gay community. It's what some signers wil have to deal with in their own community when their boy toy spots their name on the petition.
Question: Without transparency, what stops people from signing petitions with made up names?
What mystery? We hear that Voorwerp Voorwerp Voorwerp sound whenever that stupid police box appears. There's no mystery except nobody knows what the owner's name is.
Fry/Leela are great because the characters are well written. Each has issues of abandonment and isolation within the greater society at large which act as a common bond.
Besides, I think most of us can relate to her thinking he's nice but not finding him attractive cos he can't stop acting like a dork.
Yeah, the one centered south of Mexicali on Easter Sunday. That was a 7-something, really shook us good down here in San Diego. Now that one made the front page.
A friend of mine in San Diego called a bunch of bowling alleys and asked if any of the pins had been knocked down. They all said no. When asked 'why' she said she just wanted to know how that counted in the game. Heh.
Here in southern California, a mere 5.5 would hardly even arouse anyone's interest. Probably make page 1 of the local section unless the Padres made a big trade; then it would be relegated to page 2.
We had a 6 something earthquake a couple of months ago here in LA. It was one of those slowy-rolly ones that really only cranks up the scale that high because they last a while. I could hear people in other apartments going 'WooO!!!" like they were riding their wild apartment.
We actually tried to continue our meeting but then they finally got to our floor to check it out they found us and told us to leave. As you can guess, no more work is really being done today.
You know, as a resident of Southern California, I don't get many opportunities to call anybody else a weenie*...
It doesn't make sense for Ford to be making both cars and trucks. It means they have to have at least two separate lines for most of the components. They should just merge the two concepts.
Why couldn't you write an analogy we can all understand? I drive an El Camino, you insensitive clod!!
Just think how much better the world would be if that stinking pile of fail that is Opera and its 2-3 idiots who use the piece of shit browser didn't exist.
Well, to start with, you'd be reading about the world with a more primitive browser.
Why can't record and movie companies follow that example?
They don't understand that as long as people are having fun the money will roll towards them. What kills me is 10 years ago Paramount was trying to take down screen grabs of Star Trek from fan sites.
Was the product defective? Was the product exactly as it was advertised when sold? I'm sorry, but I see nothing criminal in the fact that a store isn't obligated to accept returns on things that are neither faulty nor were sold under fraudulent terms (and no, the fact that you didn't like it doesn't make the sale fraudulent).
Go buy 'White Noise' on DVD, watch it, then tell us how much you support the no-returns policy.
I guess what I don't understand is why the 'matter' is that important to you when you can do more with the digital and maintenance is an issue. (Pretending, of course, that there is no DRM. Believe me, I understand your qualms with that.) I think that's why this conversation keeps going in circles. Although if it's entirely about the fact that they won't sell it without DRM, then I totally understand you and mostly agree.
I graduated from highschool in 2008; every few months the county would roll out a new filtering system designed to block myspace/facebook/sourceforge/other questionable stuff. It would take the tech students about 15 minutes to figure out either a new workaround or modify an old one to get around the new filter. This would then filter down to the technologically illiterate kids in a about a month, prompting the release of a new blocking system. Repeat process. The end use of this was we wound up running an apache server off a flash drive on one machine which everyone would ssh to locally using firefox's proxy settings and that "server" would connect to a home server which acted as the gateway. Kids will find a way around it, so I doubt it will work for long in schools.
All I could think while reading this is "wow, all those students learned a lot about how networks work!"
Call me a doomist or anarchist but I think this kind of government encroachment on "non-fundamental" freedoms is a near certainty
Oh we totally see eye to eye here. Partly for 'evil' reasons and partly because this country's so stinkin huge that technology will undoubtedly be called in to make the basic every day runnings of the gov't easier. I only disagree with the bit about the two-way license plates. I'm actually kinda surprised that on-star isn't mandatory on all vehicles by now. Heh.
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The government employs people to check names. I know because my wife did that for a little while.
How do they check? Do they look in the phone book and see a matching name, or do they call them and ask if they have signed that petition?
Yes, I understand this. That's the point of the question. If the petition becomes public record, then it's possible to investigate this.
How does not making these signatures part of the public record prevent the elections office from verifying them?
Are they going to verify that they exist, or that they signed them? I'm just thinking it'd give people a chance to say "I didn't sign this!" I'm going to be honest here, I watch too much Simpsons. I'm imagining dead people 'signing' these petitions.
In this case, the big fear is about being outed. The harassment isn't going to come from the gay community. It's what some signers wil have to deal with in their own community when their boy toy spots their name on the petition.
Question: Without transparency, what stops people from signing petitions with made up names?
What mystery? We hear that Voorwerp Voorwerp Voorwerp sound whenever that stupid police box appears. There's no mystery except nobody knows what the owner's name is.
No offense, but wise people read them to know what they're getting into.
You're exposing yourself to humiliation down the road.
Yeah... this topic is soOOOoo worth all the discussion.
Fry/Leela are great because the characters are well written. Each has issues of abandonment and isolation within the greater society at large which act as a common bond.
Besides, I think most of us can relate to her thinking he's nice but not finding him attractive cos he can't stop acting like a dork.
The DS has proven that Nintendo doesn't have to have the prettiest graphics to be successful.
I had a chance to play with one at E3. Actually, it is quite pretty.
Oops... I farted.
Sell! Sell! Sell!!
Yeah, the one centered south of Mexicali on Easter Sunday. That was a 7-something, really shook us good down here in San Diego. Now that one made the front page.
A friend of mine in San Diego called a bunch of bowling alleys and asked if any of the pins had been knocked down. They all said no. When asked 'why' she said she just wanted to know how that counted in the game. Heh.
p.s. Nice Duck Tales reference.
Glad it's not the later.
Yeah, me too. We're at now, now. We'll be at then, soon, but whatever you're seeing now is happening now.
It's only "a large truck going by" if you're not really that close to the epicenter..
Uh, no, not really. They give you readings for the magnitude of where you are. That 6.5 earthquake in Seattle was a 2.5 in Portland.
Here in southern California, a mere 5.5 would hardly even arouse anyone's interest. Probably make page 1 of the local section unless the Padres made a big trade; then it would be relegated to page 2.
We had a 6 something earthquake a couple of months ago here in LA. It was one of those slowy-rolly ones that really only cranks up the scale that high because they last a while. I could hear people in other apartments going 'WooO!!!" like they were riding their wild apartment.
If you felt this quake, it would be great to put your location in the title of your comments, below -- with lat/long coordinates even better.
...but do NOT post your zip+4 code, as that would be a huge invasion of privacy. :D
We actually tried to continue our meeting but then they finally got to our floor to check it out they found us and told us to leave. As you can guess, no more work is really being done today.
You know, as a resident of Southern California, I don't get many opportunities to call anybody else a weenie*...
* :)
Why do all of my favorite sites(/.,ars,reddit) seem to be declining in quality so rapidly, and in unison?
As of the time I posted this, this article has 325 comments. Slashdot is ad-driven. Us noisy fanboys are Slashdot's gravy train.
It doesn't make sense for Ford to be making both cars and trucks. It means they have to have at least two separate lines for most of the components. They should just merge the two concepts.
Why couldn't you write an analogy we can all understand? I drive an El Camino, you insensitive clod!!
Just think how much better the world would be if that stinking pile of fail that is Opera and its 2-3 idiots who use the piece of shit browser didn't exist.
Well, to start with, you'd be reading about the world with a more primitive browser.
Why can't record and movie companies follow that example?
They don't understand that as long as people are having fun the money will roll towards them. What kills me is 10 years ago Paramount was trying to take down screen grabs of Star Trek from fan sites.
And this is a surprise why?
They're being better educated by breaking the rules. :P
Was the product defective? Was the product exactly as it was advertised when sold? I'm sorry, but I see nothing criminal in the fact that a store isn't obligated to accept returns on things that are neither faulty nor were sold under fraudulent terms (and no, the fact that you didn't like it doesn't make the sale fraudulent).
Go buy 'White Noise' on DVD, watch it, then tell us how much you support the no-returns policy.
I guess what I don't understand is why the 'matter' is that important to you when you can do more with the digital and maintenance is an issue. (Pretending, of course, that there is no DRM. Believe me, I understand your qualms with that.) I think that's why this conversation keeps going in circles. Although if it's entirely about the fact that they won't sell it without DRM, then I totally understand you and mostly agree.
I graduated from highschool in 2008; every few months the county would roll out a new filtering system designed to block myspace/facebook/sourceforge/other questionable stuff. It would take the tech students about 15 minutes to figure out either a new workaround or modify an old one to get around the new filter. This would then filter down to the technologically illiterate kids in a about a month, prompting the release of a new blocking system. Repeat process. The end use of this was we wound up running an apache server off a flash drive on one machine which everyone would ssh to locally using firefox's proxy settings and that "server" would connect to a home server which acted as the gateway. Kids will find a way around it, so I doubt it will work for long in schools.
All I could think while reading this is "wow, all those students learned a lot about how networks work!"
Call me a doomist or anarchist but I think this kind of government encroachment on "non-fundamental" freedoms is a near certainty
Oh we totally see eye to eye here. Partly for 'evil' reasons and partly because this country's so stinkin huge that technology will undoubtedly be called in to make the basic every day runnings of the gov't easier. I only disagree with the bit about the two-way license plates. I'm actually kinda surprised that on-star isn't mandatory on all vehicles by now. Heh.