"You know what? I'm sick of this sort of thing. Guess what guys, Apple is in it for the money! They're not running a charity here. Yes, they locked in with another company, it's their prerogative. When you create a product you get to decide if someone is going to exclusively sell it, that's the way it works. No one is forcing you to buy the iPhone. Yeah, it's a create phone, but other phones get the job done just fine."
a. People are entitled to their opinions, just like the one you just expressed.
b. If everybody sat quietly and didn't express their views, Apple would have no idea why some of the market isn't purchasing their product.
c. Just because you're happy with it doesn't mean everybody else in the world should be.
"you didnt say anythign the first time! you just said its all already out there and your ignorant for not having read it."
Heh. I was talking about my original post. You dismissed it and since then your mind's been closed. (Even to the point that you conveniently ignored it just to take another poke at me!) Show me that you're actually going to pay attention to what I said, and I'd be happy to answer your question. It's all on you, man. If you won't make a move towards civility, don't continue stooping to hypocriscy.
Lemme know if you wanna meet me halfway. Otherwise, have a good weekend.:)
"You're extremely good at avoiding nay real discussion and facts and simply making personal attacks..."
Heh. Yeah yeah. I know all about that debate tactic. That's cool. If you'd like to demonstrate some listening ability, I'd be happy to discuss this. If you'd like to continue under the delusion that a large group of people spontaneously and without cause waved their torches and pitchforks at Sony, so be it. Just remember that I started this off with a dicsussion and you immediately replied with demonstratable ignorance of Sony's silliness over the last year. "Lets list their crimes: (SCE) 1. They made a console you dont like....." You'll pardon me for not accepting responsibility for your dissatisfaction.
"you say theres all this shit they they did after e3 or whatever thats just awful and the devil's work..."
I didn't liken anything to "Devil's Work". I said their PR is bad.
"its just a console you dont like! thats all it comes down to! it has games you dont like!"
I don't have a problem with the console. It's the company that has been making stupid mistakes lately.
"as far as i can tell your reply comes down to "they did all this other stuff but i cant be bothered mentioning it and were not all bashing them, oh btw your ignorant."
Cute interpretation of what I said, but okay. Fine. Whatever. I didn't go into detail for two reasons: First is that all that information's out there. Considering how dismissive you've been so far, I didn't think my doing reseach work for you would end up being worthwhile. Second, I don't think you would have trusted me. I think you would have argued with me instead of just reading the information and figuring out why other people interpret it the way they do. I'm not interested in convincing you to dislike Sony, but I think you would have interpreted it that way. If you go find that info on your own, at least you'll look at it from that perspective instead of using it in a game of verbal kombat with me.
"and you fail to see all that all the things sony has done amount to a console with poor design choices, some broken promises and PR lies. Oh no! they promised a game and now its not coming out! They promised a feature and it didnt end up happening! That happens with nearly every technology product."
Right, but that's not what Sony's getting its chops busted for. I've already gone into detail about this in my first post and you dismissed it. Oh well.
"...and if you dont like a product dont buy it. sony isnt forcing you to upgrade from a ps2 to a ps3."
In other words, people that disagree with you should just shut up. Right. The reason you think the fanboys are crazy is that you don't understand it like they do. I'm not saying you have to agree with it, but I think you need to go back and take another look at what Sony's done. It's not some shared haullucination.
"oh and, sillyness? 33% PERCENT OF UNITS ARE DEFECTIVE."
On a note unrelated to this discussion, I don't think this number is true. I think the number's unusually high (10% maybe), but I seriously doubt it's 33. Unfortunately, some of the XBOX news gets tainted like the Sony news does. It's hard to take extreme stories on either side seriously.
"im not really gonna bother saying much more until you come with more than just "you're ignorant"
I don't know why you expect more of me than that when you're not listening to anything I'm saying. I'm not spending a whole lot of energy on this while you're saying things like "its just a console you dont like! thats all it comes down to! it has games you dont like!" All that stuff has been regurgitated so many times here I honestly don't see how somebody who reads Slashdot everyday can be unaware of it. If you really want to know, start asking questions and stop putting words in people's mouthes.
Obviously Sony has done it a lot more 'constantly' than the other two this time around, their PR tanked.
"1. They made a console you dont like....."
This is why you don't understand what all the 'bashing' is about. You don't have a clue what's been going on. You actually think that one morning I woke up and thought "Hmm.. it'd be fashionable for me to hate Sony today for no reason." As near as I can figure, you've been avoiding even the most mainstream video game news over the last 18 months. Now, it may sound like I'm just being dismissive of what you're saying. Well, sorry, but if you really want to kick people in the butt to re-evaluate the PS3 you're not going to get anywhere by saying "I don't understand what all the fuss is about, you're just a fanboy." The PS3 had a lot of positive momentum going for it until E3 '06. That's when they first shot themselves in the foot. Maybe you'd like to browse through the news archives and see what all the fuss was about?
"I hardly see how this is worthy of all the bashing and crap they get on slashdot. Im not a fanboy but i can see customer attitude is starting to affect console makers and having a large impact on sales. I want more people buying ps3's so i can get some goddman games. i dont want it to turn into the dreamcast of this generation, minus the the good games. Im not going to start arguing pro ps3 but you cnat deny its a great piece of hardware, its not a piece of crap."
I agree with you that the hardware has some impressive graphical power. Throw lots of money at it, and sure, you can make the numbers of the specs go up.
"Its sounds old, but i cant even list the amount of things microsoft has done in the past year that are far worse than that. Why arent we out bashing them, boycotting their products and givign them a hard time, i mean they pretty much MAKE people buy their crap, and it IS crap. i know some of us do."
That's something else you should look into. Despite the silliness surrounding Microsoft and the XBOX 360 (i.e. Defective units...), they've still made an interesting and affordable game machine.
"Anyway i just dotn see why you feel the need to bash them so much when theres so many companies out there that are far worse. they made the ps3, made some design mistakes, and had a ceo who said some stupid things."
As I said, you're not seeing all of the saga surrounding Sony. You should look into that. As for bashing, I'd hardly call my post bashing. You're not going to get anywhere on this topic if you run around to people who have a different opinion from you and say "You're just bashing". I could accuse you of being the exact opposite, you know. "You'll let Sony do whatever they want and you'll cheer them on." You wouldn't care much for me saying that, right? Whatever. Go do a little research before taking potshots at people.
"We get it, they've changed their minds. Yes, you're oh-so-witty for pointing out how Sony's doing a quick about-face. Because, y'know, never before in history has a company realized that they made a mistake and then gone back to correct it."
Ah, if only that was the whole story. The 'mistake' they made was they didn't want to pay licensing fees over the patent. Instead of just being upfront about that, they first claimed that their motion sensitive controller wouldn't work with Immersion's rumble technology.. When the Wii controller came out that supported motion sensing and rumble, Immersion made it public they had informed Sony about how to resolve that issue, then Sony fired back and said that rumble technology was last-gen.
Sony didn't simply make a mistake and correct it. They fought it kicking and screaming. If Sony hadn't been so negatively noisy about it, the Dual Shock 3 would barely have made the news.
"A man won't get arrested for indecent exposure for being topless on the beach, so women should be afforded that as well. Equal protection under the law and all that."
"Hrmmmm.... looking at the "device" from the images on the link makes me think the police overreacted. Come on now.... holding her at gunpoint?"
That's a no-win situation. If they don't stop her, and if she went kablooey, there'd be all sorts of people demanding to know why they didn't. It's human nature, really. When something tragic happens, we try to figure out how to prevent it. Sometimes that goes to silly extremes.
"Granted, it was likely not the smartest move on her part..."
It was't a smart move at all. Realistically speaking, with all this paranoia flying around, she had no reasonable reason to think she'd get through without legal trouble.
"Why is it that airports have special significance?"
a. It's happened before. b. They've threatened to do it again. c. Airplanes can be made into nasty instruments of destruction.
"Would you say that "I'm shocked and appalled that somebody would wear this type of device to a college campus"?"
Since there isn't paranoia flying around about colleges getting bombed, this isn't a fair question. You have to understand that lots of people were spooked rather bad, and they're still trying to cope with what to do about it. There is a constant barrage of threats for similar attacks down the road. What are they supposed to do, not take them seriously? Nobody has an answer as to what to do about it.
"Is all this paranoia actually making us safer?"
That depends on your school of thought. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11. Either the US has succeeded in thwarting them or they haven't tried again. I couldn't tell you. The reality, though, is that it has happened and there is desire for it to happen again. For that reason, they cannot in good concscience not to something. As I said before, there's no good answer presenting itself.
"It is not hard to imagine any number of amazingly effective scenarios that terrorists could use that would be far more effective than focusing on airports, so quit with all of the panic reactions already."
Obviously the terrorists thought an airplane would be the best way to do it before, so they're forced now to pursue a less ideal way to cause trouble. I think that's the goal and it's working.
"But the law says "Adult with person under 18 == Jail Time." Period."
Ah, okay, fair point. I have a point I want to reply to here, but I concede on this one.
"By your logic, the punishment for a male teacher who was infertile should be much less than for a male teacher who was fertile."
By your logic, a man who doesn't wear a shirt at the beach should be arrested for indecent exposure. What? No...? Okay. Extreme arguments are silly, I think we both agree on that. Men and women are biologically and anatomically different. Okay, you got me on the statuatory punishment, but for the remainder, this point still stands. Chauvinism isn't the only reason in the world why two different punishments would be handed out to two different sexes for the same offense. Nor does that inequity automatically mean 'unfair' or that justice isn't blind. We live complex lives in a complex world and even if 'justice' did run purely on logic and fact, we'd still have a hard time perceiving it as fair.
"But the law doesn't make those distinctions and yet it is unevenly enforced (which was my ironic point)."
I agree with you, but I think your example is bad. The big problem with teen sex is pregnancy. If the teacher gets pregnant, oh well, she's an adult and she should know better. (At least that's how the law sees it.) If a 15 year old female studen gets pregnant, she's not of age to make that choice or meet that responsibility, and it messes up her life. From the pregnancy perspective, the two aren't the same. There are other ways to look at this, too, and the result still is different consequences.
If the consequences are different, punishment under the law is different. That's why this is a bad example.
As I said, I agree with you, but your example just doesn't work. Personally, I would have brought up Paris Hilton's whopping 4 days in jail. Celebrities are treated differently from common-folk, and not for anatomical reasons.;)
"Hmm, let's see...I recently got the entire second season box set from rightstuf.com for like $70. $4x26 episodes = $104 to buy the series on XBL. Plus mine are on DVD, so I can play them, you know, just about anywhere (with or without breaking the encryption)."
Yeah, if you already know you like it and want to get it, the season DVD approach is preferred. Somebody like me, though, hasn't seen a lot of anime and would enjoy sampling it. I dig the idea of spending $4 and getting an episode to watch right away. (as opposed to going to the store and buying more than I want...) It's not the most economical thing in the world, but if I spent $70 for the whole season and didn't like it... well that doesn't make much economical sense, either.
Yeah, in theory. Also, in theory, you can wear gloves to prevent your fingerprints from being left at the scene of a crime. Yet, in a lot of cases, they're found anyway.
"Detailed specs from Raytheon's patent filing show that the gun essentially plays Britney Spears' new single at an extremely high volume in a concentrated "cone of pain.""
I read somewhere that the're using K-Fed as a stun setting.
"It's a game and Blu-Ray player. I play games and Blu-Rays on it."
Exactly. That includes games and movies that are coming in the future. In an extreme case, if Sony suddenly folded up shop on the whole PS3 thing, I seriously seriously doubt you'd be anything but pissed off about it.
"I didn't buy it thinking it had feature X and then later find out it didn't. I checked before I bought it."
That's great. But you still didn't buy a system without some form of trust with them. In the case of a game console, you trust that more games to your liking will be published, you trust that their online services will work, you trust that their systems will last a few years, etc. It may not bother you personally if you cannot believe the words coming from their press-releases, but that doesn't mean everybody else should just take everything they say at face value.
"If any company is guilty of that kind of thing, it's Microsoft, BTW. I don't think people bought their 360 thinking it would crap-out on them. "
Boy do I agree with that. You should NOT have to feel like you need to purchase that Best Buy warrantee when you buy a system. Evil.
"You may want to be in love with the company that makes your game console. I don't have that requirement."
Right. If you have a PS3 right now, you purchased it as an investment. That means the stuff they do down the road is important to you. You care whether you're part of a flame war or not.
"Why should anyone care why? If you knew why, would your games would be more fun? What's the specific benefit to knowing why"
You'd care if the company selling you stuff was lying to you, right? No? Okay, you're a good little consumer keeping the economy alive. I admire that.
"You can't, um, just buy or not buy a product based on what it does versus what you want and how much money it costs. Hate is required. Needed."
Amusingly, I wouldn't be replying to a post right now if you took your own advice.
"Way to go. What a zinger! You really zinged them."
That's funny if.. like.. you don't know the whole history of the SIXAXIS/Rumble story. To everybody else, it's yet another example of how Sony's been tripping over its arrogance over the last two years. Instead of just saying "We don't want to pay the licensing for it, and we don't think our customers will mind..." they spouted several different stories from technical problems with the unit to claiming it's not a big deal anyway. So yes, you're right, that'll teach them to promote their choices as the best ones, that is when they choose to be dishonest.
There actually are several reasons why Sony's been hard to take seriously lately. A bunch of people didn't spontaneously wake up with a craving to hate them.
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"You know what? I'm sick of this sort of thing. Guess what guys, Apple is in it for the money! They're not running a charity here. Yes, they locked in with another company, it's their prerogative. When you create a product you get to decide if someone is going to exclusively sell it, that's the way it works. No one is forcing you to buy the iPhone. Yeah, it's a create phone, but other phones get the job done just fine."
a. People are entitled to their opinions, just like the one you just expressed.
b. If everybody sat quietly and didn't express their views, Apple would have no idea why some of the market isn't purchasing their product.
c. Just because you're happy with it doesn't mean everybody else in the world should be.
"you didnt say anythign the first time! you just said its all already out there and your ignorant for not having read it."
:)
Heh. I was talking about my original post. You dismissed it and since then your mind's been closed. (Even to the point that you conveniently ignored it just to take another poke at me!) Show me that you're actually going to pay attention to what I said, and I'd be happy to answer your question. It's all on you, man. If you won't make a move towards civility, don't continue stooping to hypocriscy.
Lemme know if you wanna meet me halfway. Otherwise, have a good weekend.
You dismissed what I said the first time around, why should I expect something different this time?
I've been waiting for you to show some signs of listening. The ball's in your court.
"You're extremely good at avoiding nay real discussion and facts and simply making personal attacks..."
...." You'll pardon me for not accepting responsibility for your dissatisfaction.
Heh. Yeah yeah. I know all about that debate tactic. That's cool. If you'd like to demonstrate some listening ability, I'd be happy to discuss this. If you'd like to continue under the delusion that a large group of people spontaneously and without cause waved their torches and pitchforks at Sony, so be it. Just remember that I started this off with a dicsussion and you immediately replied with demonstratable ignorance of Sony's silliness over the last year. "Lets list their crimes: (SCE) 1. They made a console you dont like.
"you say theres all this shit they they did after e3 or whatever thats just awful and the devil's work..."
I didn't liken anything to "Devil's Work". I said their PR is bad.
"its just a console you dont like! thats all it comes down to! it has games you dont like!"
I don't have a problem with the console. It's the company that has been making stupid mistakes lately.
"as far as i can tell your reply comes down to "they did all this other stuff but i cant be bothered mentioning it and were not all bashing them, oh btw your ignorant."
Cute interpretation of what I said, but okay. Fine. Whatever. I didn't go into detail for two reasons: First is that all that information's out there. Considering how dismissive you've been so far, I didn't think my doing reseach work for you would end up being worthwhile. Second, I don't think you would have trusted me. I think you would have argued with me instead of just reading the information and figuring out why other people interpret it the way they do. I'm not interested in convincing you to dislike Sony, but I think you would have interpreted it that way. If you go find that info on your own, at least you'll look at it from that perspective instead of using it in a game of verbal kombat with me.
"and you fail to see all that all the things sony has done amount to a console with poor design choices, some broken promises and PR lies. Oh no! they promised a game and now its not coming out! They promised a feature and it didnt end up happening! That happens with nearly every technology product."
Right, but that's not what Sony's getting its chops busted for. I've already gone into detail about this in my first post and you dismissed it. Oh well.
"...and if you dont like a product dont buy it. sony isnt forcing you to upgrade from a ps2 to a ps3."
In other words, people that disagree with you should just shut up. Right. The reason you think the fanboys are crazy is that you don't understand it like they do. I'm not saying you have to agree with it, but I think you need to go back and take another look at what Sony's done. It's not some shared haullucination.
"oh and, sillyness? 33% PERCENT OF UNITS ARE DEFECTIVE."
On a note unrelated to this discussion, I don't think this number is true. I think the number's unusually high (10% maybe), but I seriously doubt it's 33. Unfortunately, some of the XBOX news gets tainted like the Sony news does. It's hard to take extreme stories on either side seriously.
"im not really gonna bother saying much more until you come with more than just "you're ignorant"
I don't know why you expect more of me than that when you're not listening to anything I'm saying. I'm not spending a whole lot of energy on this while you're saying things like "its just a console you dont like! thats all it comes down to! it has games you dont like!" All that stuff has been regurgitated so many times here I honestly don't see how somebody who reads Slashdot everyday can be unaware of it. If you really want to know, start asking questions and stop putting words in people's mouthes.
"what company doesnt lie on a constant basis?"
...."
Obviously Sony has done it a lot more 'constantly' than the other two this time around, their PR tanked.
"1. They made a console you dont like.
This is why you don't understand what all the 'bashing' is about. You don't have a clue what's been going on. You actually think that one morning I woke up and thought "Hmm.. it'd be fashionable for me to hate Sony today for no reason." As near as I can figure, you've been avoiding even the most mainstream video game news over the last 18 months. Now, it may sound like I'm just being dismissive of what you're saying. Well, sorry, but if you really want to kick people in the butt to re-evaluate the PS3 you're not going to get anywhere by saying "I don't understand what all the fuss is about, you're just a fanboy." The PS3 had a lot of positive momentum going for it until E3 '06. That's when they first shot themselves in the foot. Maybe you'd like to browse through the news archives and see what all the fuss was about?
"I hardly see how this is worthy of all the bashing and crap they get on slashdot. Im not a fanboy but i can see customer attitude is starting to affect console makers and having a large impact on sales. I want more people buying ps3's so i can get some goddman games. i dont want it to turn into the dreamcast of this generation, minus the the good games. Im not going to start arguing pro ps3 but you cnat deny its a great piece of hardware, its not a piece of crap."
I agree with you that the hardware has some impressive graphical power. Throw lots of money at it, and sure, you can make the numbers of the specs go up.
"Its sounds old, but i cant even list the amount of things microsoft has done in the past year that are far worse than that. Why arent we out bashing them, boycotting their products and givign them a hard time, i mean they pretty much MAKE people buy their crap, and it IS crap. i know some of us do."
That's something else you should look into. Despite the silliness surrounding Microsoft and the XBOX 360 (i.e. Defective units...), they've still made an interesting and affordable game machine.
"Anyway i just dotn see why you feel the need to bash them so much when theres so many companies out there that are far worse. they made the ps3, made some design mistakes, and had a ceo who said some stupid things."
As I said, you're not seeing all of the saga surrounding Sony. You should look into that. As for bashing, I'd hardly call my post bashing. You're not going to get anywhere on this topic if you run around to people who have a different opinion from you and say "You're just bashing". I could accuse you of being the exact opposite, you know. "You'll let Sony do whatever they want and you'll cheer them on." You wouldn't care much for me saying that, right? Whatever. Go do a little research before taking potshots at people.
"We get it, they've changed their minds. Yes, you're oh-so-witty for pointing out how Sony's doing a quick about-face. Because, y'know, never before in history has a company realized that they made a mistake and then gone back to correct it."
Ah, if only that was the whole story. The 'mistake' they made was they didn't want to pay licensing fees over the patent. Instead of just being upfront about that, they first claimed that their motion sensitive controller wouldn't work with Immersion's rumble technology.. When the Wii controller came out that supported motion sensing and rumble, Immersion made it public they had informed Sony about how to resolve that issue, then Sony fired back and said that rumble technology was last-gen.
Sony didn't simply make a mistake and correct it. They fought it kicking and screaming. If Sony hadn't been so negatively noisy about it, the Dual Shock 3 would barely have made the news.
"A man won't get arrested for indecent exposure for being topless on the beach, so women should be afforded that as well. Equal protection under the law and all that."
That wouldn't be equal protection.
"Hrmmmm.... looking at the "device" from the images on the link makes me think the police overreacted. Come on now.... holding her at gunpoint?"
That's a no-win situation. If they don't stop her, and if she went kablooey, there'd be all sorts of people demanding to know why they didn't. It's human nature, really. When something tragic happens, we try to figure out how to prevent it. Sometimes that goes to silly extremes.
"Granted, it was likely not the smartest move on her part..."
It was't a smart move at all. Realistically speaking, with all this paranoia flying around, she had no reasonable reason to think she'd get through without legal trouble.
"Why is it that airports have special significance?"
a. It's happened before.
b. They've threatened to do it again.
c. Airplanes can be made into nasty instruments of destruction.
"Would you say that "I'm shocked and appalled that somebody would wear this type of device to a college campus"?"
Since there isn't paranoia flying around about colleges getting bombed, this isn't a fair question. You have to understand that lots of people were spooked rather bad, and they're still trying to cope with what to do about it. There is a constant barrage of threats for similar attacks down the road. What are they supposed to do, not take them seriously? Nobody has an answer as to what to do about it.
"Is all this paranoia actually making us safer?"
That depends on your school of thought. There hasn't been a terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11. Either the US has succeeded in thwarting them or they haven't tried again. I couldn't tell you. The reality, though, is that it has happened and there is desire for it to happen again. For that reason, they cannot in good concscience not to something. As I said before, there's no good answer presenting itself.
"It is not hard to imagine any number of amazingly effective scenarios that terrorists could use that would be far more effective than focusing on airports, so quit with all of the panic reactions already."
Obviously the terrorists thought an airplane would be the best way to do it before, so they're forced now to pursue a less ideal way to cause trouble. I think that's the goal and it's working.
"But the law says "Adult with person under 18 == Jail Time." Period."
Ah, okay, fair point. I have a point I want to reply to here, but I concede on this one.
"By your logic, the punishment for a male teacher who was infertile should be much less than for a male teacher who was fertile."
By your logic, a man who doesn't wear a shirt at the beach should be arrested for indecent exposure. What? No...? Okay. Extreme arguments are silly, I think we both agree on that. Men and women are biologically and anatomically different. Okay, you got me on the statuatory punishment, but for the remainder, this point still stands. Chauvinism isn't the only reason in the world why two different punishments would be handed out to two different sexes for the same offense. Nor does that inequity automatically mean 'unfair' or that justice isn't blind. We live complex lives in a complex world and even if 'justice' did run purely on logic and fact, we'd still have a hard time perceiving it as fair.
"Do you think that becoming a father at 15 doesn't mess up your life?"
;)
Nope. Never said anything of the sort.
I dare you to go up to your mother and say you think pregnancy is just as much of a life-fuck for the father as it is for the mother.
"But the law doesn't make those distinctions and yet it is unevenly enforced (which was my ironic point)."
;)
I agree with you, but I think your example is bad. The big problem with teen sex is pregnancy. If the teacher gets pregnant, oh well, she's an adult and she should know better. (At least that's how the law sees it.) If a 15 year old female studen gets pregnant, she's not of age to make that choice or meet that responsibility, and it messes up her life. From the pregnancy perspective, the two aren't the same. There are other ways to look at this, too, and the result still is different consequences.
If the consequences are different, punishment under the law is different. That's why this is a bad example.
As I said, I agree with you, but your example just doesn't work. Personally, I would have brought up Paris Hilton's whopping 4 days in jail. Celebrities are treated differently from common-folk, and not for anatomical reasons.
"Because the law is blind and impartial."
A 15 year old female student can get pregnant. A 15 year old male student cannot.
I wonder how much of this has to do with the misconception that somebody can use Photoshop to extract a high resolution image from a crappy CCD cam.
Nar I haven't seen it. Thanks for the recommendation! :)
"Hmm, let's see...I recently got the entire second season box set from rightstuf.com for like $70. $4x26 episodes = $104 to buy the series on XBL. Plus mine are on DVD, so I can play them, you know, just about anywhere (with or without breaking the encryption)."
Yeah, if you already know you like it and want to get it, the season DVD approach is preferred. Somebody like me, though, hasn't seen a lot of anime and would enjoy sampling it. I dig the idea of spending $4 and getting an episode to watch right away. (as opposed to going to the store and buying more than I want...) It's not the most economical thing in the world, but if I spent $70 for the whole season and didn't like it... well that doesn't make much economical sense, either.
"Terrorists will now use gloves to make bombs."
Yeah, in theory. Also, in theory, you can wear gloves to prevent your fingerprints from being left at the scene of a crime. Yet, in a lot of cases, they're found anyway.
"Detailed specs from Raytheon's patent filing show that the gun essentially plays Britney Spears' new single at an extremely high volume in a concentrated "cone of pain.""
I read somewhere that the're using K-Fed as a stun setting.
"It's a game and Blu-Ray player. I play games and Blu-Rays on it."
Exactly. That includes games and movies that are coming in the future. In an extreme case, if Sony suddenly folded up shop on the whole PS3 thing, I seriously seriously doubt you'd be anything but pissed off about it.
"I didn't buy it thinking it had feature X and then later find out it didn't. I checked before I bought it."
That's great. But you still didn't buy a system without some form of trust with them. In the case of a game console, you trust that more games to your liking will be published, you trust that their online services will work, you trust that their systems will last a few years, etc. It may not bother you personally if you cannot believe the words coming from their press-releases, but that doesn't mean everybody else should just take everything they say at face value.
"If any company is guilty of that kind of thing, it's Microsoft, BTW. I don't think people bought their 360 thinking it would crap-out on them. "
Boy do I agree with that. You should NOT have to feel like you need to purchase that Best Buy warrantee when you buy a system. Evil.
"You may want to be in love with the company that makes your game console. I don't have that requirement."
Right. If you have a PS3 right now, you purchased it as an investment. That means the stuff they do down the road is important to you. You care whether you're part of a flame war or not.
"Why should anyone care why? If you knew why, would your games would be more fun? What's the specific benefit to knowing why"
You'd care if the company selling you stuff was lying to you, right? No? Okay, you're a good little consumer keeping the economy alive. I admire that.
"You can't, um, just buy or not buy a product based on what it does versus what you want and how much money it costs. Hate is required. Needed."
Amusingly, I wouldn't be replying to a post right now if you took your own advice.
"Or because the whole patent was a sham, that Microsoft bought into to prevent Sony from using it - ala SCO."
:)
Yeah, that makes sense. That's why Sony'll never rumble in their controllers. Oh wait...
"Of course if you're a Microsoft/XBox 360 fanboy, you won't care."
I'm not an XBOX fan, yet, I do not care. You'd look less like an overzealous Sony fan if you didn't jump to silly conclusions like that.
"Way to go. What a zinger! You really zinged them."
That's funny if.. like.. you don't know the whole history of the SIXAXIS/Rumble story. To everybody else, it's yet another example of how Sony's been tripping over its arrogance over the last two years. Instead of just saying "We don't want to pay the licensing for it, and we don't think our customers will mind..." they spouted several different stories from technical problems with the unit to claiming it's not a big deal anyway. So yes, you're right, that'll teach them to promote their choices as the best ones, that is when they choose to be dishonest.
There actually are several reasons why Sony's been hard to take seriously lately. A bunch of people didn't spontaneously wake up with a craving to hate them.
"I always thought of the wiimote as REALLY intended for something way more sexually explicit..."
You'd better disable the rumble feature before you chip your teeth!
KUPO!!!