"But seriously - if you are going to claim that your earth based adaptive optics system will deliver sharper images than Hubble - show us a comparison."
Google does get something in return -- it takes a cut from app sales. The forced bundling of their search with their store is just a way to capitalize on their market dominance in one area to retain it in another. That's what Microsoft historically did, and Google does the same.
So why can't I have access to the Google Play store without Google's search bar? Don't you think that's Google flexing their Android market dominance to keep their search dominance?
(For example, I'm in the market for a new iPhone stand, and there's a nice $10 aluminum one on Amazon and I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.)
What, this one? If that's the case, you can buy it direct. Most things on Amazon are available elsewhere, like eBay, direct, or Asian market sites like AliExpress.
99.99999999% of the time, the yellow price tags had the same price as the white tags we removed from the shelf. They'd just raised the "regular" price in the computer so that they could put it "on sale" for the same price.
Yeah, I don't think your links show anything more than "someone said it on the internet". Sorry. But feel free to provide creditable citations! I'm always willing to listen.
I'm not going to go through all the claims in the lolcow.wiki. Too long and too detailed, and misses the forest for the trees. Here's my summary of Brianna "Stayed Home" Wu:
"She" inserted herself into the GamerGate issue by making fun of gg'ers.
"She", in return, was made fun of on 8chan. One of the posts contained her address and a threat. This post was quickly deleted by mods.
"She" went on a hysterical media tour, claiming she had to flee her home.
"She" was so afraid for her life, that she posted on Twatter where she would be at a public convention.
"She" gave multiple interviews from her home while claiming she was in hiding.
Such a list would go a long way highlighting the people with a good idea that can actually be realize, and bring more money to those who are truly deserving.
That's what professional investors are for. I never understood the Kickstarter craze. You want me to plunk down some money, assume all the risk, and my only reward is the product if it's actually made and some token gift? How about giving me a share of the profits instead?
Given that the tax only applied to companies which make $20M+ per year, and was only $275 per employee, I can't see how it would have pushed any businesses out of the city. If you found out that your electric bill was $1 more than you expected, would you move out of your house?
Could those businesses have afforded this special tax? Almost certainly. Do you think the tax would have stopped there? Almost certainly not. Amazon and their counterparts are stopping a precedent before it gets started.
I can "trivially disallow" nesting errors by counting +1 for each { and -1 for each }.
You mean you're going to manually do that every time you look at a piece of code, and ignore the indentation? No, you're not. That's why bugs exist because of misleading indentation.
Of course, you introduce a new class of errors by having space+tab and tab+space look the same but not be considered so by the compiler.
I agree, I do not like Python's implementation. I think they should have disallowed mixing of spaces and tabs. Of course, when it comes to reading code, C (or pick your favorite language) has always had trouble with tabs vs. spaces.
I don't deny that C has faults but they're irrelevant to the matter at hand, which is that making indentation significant is crap.
It's relevant, because C was used to dismiss Python as a language on a single issue in which C has its own problems, including many more. If you act like a hypocrite, as "drinkypoo" did, I'll point it out.
C and its descendants have good reasons for their insanity, like backwards compatibility, and efficiency.
The backwards compatibility is understandable, which basically says the multitude of bug-prone design choices are enshrined into the language forever. The efficiency reasons are overused as an excuse for a language that is pretty terrible with regards to consistency or avoidable bug-prone design decisions.
Python has no good reasons for its insanity
Actually, the bug-prone issues of languages like C where semantics does not match presentation is one of the reasons Python chose the path it did, so it's quite funny that you choose C to bash Python with in this example. C is considered a liberation from the tyranny of rigid indents, but it brought its own problems.
I personally would have preferred if Python kept the braces but disallowed misleading indentation, but I'm not going to dismiss the entirety of the language over that one issue.
Indentation shouldn't need to match semantics. That's what punctuation is for. Indentation is for the benefit of humans.
Err, since the presentation of the code is for humans, to allow bugs due to human-prone errors that can trivially be disallowed is nonsensical. You could keep the punctuation and disallow for the misleading indentation. Obviously Python eschewed that option, but let's not pretend that buggy code should be tolerated if we can avoid it trivially by the compiler.
P.S. Bagging on the GP for choosing C as an example is pathetic.
No, what's pathetic is using C as your comparison, when C is so demonstrably bad.
Python doesn't stop people from writing poor-quality code
No language does, but it does prevent code where indentation does not match semantics. Beyond that, there are many, many C-style errors that are avoided in languages like Python, errors that traditional C apologists shrug aside and make noises about programmers not blaming their tools.
'm only sad that so many people have based their projects on Python, because it means that they have subjected many others to their madness.
The way Raenex has framed these statements, closes the door to any reasonable discord.
I stated my case plainly and with supporting references, in response to a one-sided diatribe against the right.
Your defense of the intolerant muslim ban is to say that, yes, you are intolerant?
Your defense of mass importation of an intolerant and violent culture is... to say to not do so would be intolerant?? All this concern for LGBT and women's rights flies out the window when it comes to this issue. Strange, isn't it?
You're just making shit up.
All my statements were supported by references. Who's the one attempting reasonable discord? Certainly not you.
I don't see anything on the "left" that is attempting selective immigration by religion or origin
You provide no argument to oppose the claim or defend LGBT people, but just point out that you are absolutely and certainly ostracizing at least the trans portion of those. Isn't this simply confirming your intolerance?
I made a case that the defense of LGBT issues has gone well past the point of reasonableness. You think it's "intolerance" that biological women don't want to have biological men who "identify" as women hanging around them with their genitals hanging out. Does this seem reasonable to you?
Where was BLM mentioned?
That's what has pushed the whole "police brutality" narrative for the past several years.
Are you rounding them all up under the generic "the left" again?
"The left" has indeed adopted and heavily pushed the phony Black Lies Matter narrative, which itself was founded by leftists who idolized the black nationalist, communist, and fugitive cop-killer Assata Shakur.
The article you use as evidence states that there was bias found in police use of force.
A whopping 18%. Now let's talk about how blacks commit many times more violent crime than whites, which is their real problem. Less crime, less interaction with the police, less black on black crime.
If they're illegals, they can't vote.
You completely ignored the part about the US Census. Why should illegals help determine the outcome of the Congress and the Electoral College?
Furthermore, illegals technically "can't work" either, yet they do so via fraudulent means.
How does that relate to voter disenfranchisement, which you have not commented on?
I commented that minorities, who are supposedly being disenfranchised, actually have majority support for voter id laws. Disenfranchisement happens when people who are not eligible to vote do so, by usurping rights exclusively limited to citizens.
Yes, abortion is a divisive issue, but you're using it to wedge us apart here.
I'm not the one who brought it up. I was responding to somebody using it to tar the right as "intolerant" of "womens rights", while ignoring the human life being terminated. Of course it's a complicated issue, and you can make a reasoned case for either side.
I don't know how we'll ever heal this country
I don't know either. We certainly won't by harassing
If the same thing happens to a piece of C code, a) it still works and b) you can run it through indent to get back something human-understandable. Python has to exist in the real world where things like this happen. The people who defend this characteristic of Python clearly do not live where the rest of us live.
It's amusing that you choose C to bash this particular aspect of Python with. In the real world, C is prone to all sorts of all-too-common human errors, including bugs that results from code not matching the semantics implied by indentation.
C defendants have always put the onus on the programmer, the need for more training or higher quality programmers. But here you are passing final judgment on Python because of what amounts to an annoyance.
this is about the heart of our election process, about how much influence foreign interference had
Huh, you mean like a foreign agent hired by the DNC and the Clinton campaign to conduct a smear campaign against the opposition candidate?
"Steele, who is British, did far more than simply provide opposition research to the Democratic National Committee. He was able to make sure it reached the most influential people possible in politics, media and government to shape and influence the growing narrative of the 2016 presidential election. In other words, as a skilled professional intelligence officer, Steele ran a full-spectrum information operation against the United States. One could even call it information warfare."
But let's not stop there! Did he have help from Obama's DOJ? Why, yes, he did!
"The Nunes memo also showed then-associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr back-channeled additional material from Steele into the DOJ while working with Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and her replacement, Rod Rosenstein. Ohr's wife Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS, the firm that commissioned the dossier, on Steele's project. Ohr's wife would be especially valuable in that she would be able to clandestinely supply info to corroborate what Steele told the FBI and, via her husband, know to tailor what she passed to the questions DOJ had. The FBI did not disclose the role of Ohr's wife, who speaks Russian and has previously done contract work for the CIA, to the FISA court."
The left aren't the ones making travel bans for muslims.
Islam is the most intolerant, violent, and supremacist religion on Earth. Sane people want to limit immigration, which is not a right, from this violent and supremacist culture. The left wants to import them in massive numbers, and will call you an "Islamophobe" and "xenophobe" if you don't.
They aren't the ones ostracizing LGBT people.
The left wants 99.9% of society to re-engineer itself to recognize the delusions of the 0.1% of transgender people. Some guy "identifies" as a woman, and he wants to hang out with biological women with his male genitalia hanging out.
They aren't the ones advocating for police brutality.
Black Lies Matter was a phony narrative that did not stand up to scrutiny. The end result has been dead cops and more dead blacks due to less policing in crime-ridden neighborhoods.
They aren't the ones trying to disenfranchise minorities from voting.
The left wants to disenfranchise American citizens by flooding the country with illegals and making it harder to reserve rights for American citizens. That's why they put up a big stink when the US Census was going to ask about citizenship status, because they're afraid illegals won't be counted for congressional representation and the electoral college.
By the way, even the majority of minorities support voter id laws.
They aren't the ones pushing against womens rights to control their reproductive systems.
Just ignore the human life that's terminated by these "womens rights".
You think the left is intolerant?
Yes, I think harassing people in public, hounding them out of their jobs, and shutting down their free speech events is massively intolerant.
When over 90% of black people and the majority of other minorities vote for the left it's because they think (correctly) that the right is actively working against them.
Tell you what, go ahead and tell a conservative christian that you are gay and that jesus is a lie and see what happens to you.
For fuck's sake, "piss christ" was an actual thing, and nothing happened. Do you know what would happen if you actually performed this experiment? They would probably politely tell you to stop bothering them.
Now go post a sign that says, "It's okay to be white", and see what happens.
GooTube can't solve the problem because they are part of the problem. The only way to "solve" the problem is to just get out of the way, and let users decide for themselves. Nobody can be trusted with the banhammer.
Ban CNN's account for a week when they post a bullshit story, and this will be resolved pretty quickly
You're under the delusion that GooTube actually cares about truth. They have their own biases and agenda. I'm tired of all these tech platforms deciding that users need to be told who to listen to.
You're rabid. The leftist mainstream media has been pumping out "news" stories with an anti-Trump agenda ever since he won the primaries. Some of it is so obviously slanted and shallow that it's quite laughable, like the Japan fish-feeding episode.
But the biggest sins of the leftist mainstream media is that they ignore stories that don't fit the narrative. That's why a lefty professor from a liberal college had to go on Fox News to share his story about Evergreen.
Slashdot Mirror
why the snark?
"But seriously - if you are going to claim that your earth based adaptive optics system will deliver sharper images than Hubble - show us a comparison."
But seriously - if you are going to claim that your earth based adaptive optics system will deliver sharper images than Hubble - show us a comparison.
Try reading the article:
https://www.eso.org/public/uni...
Google does get something in return -- it takes a cut from app sales. The forced bundling of their search with their store is just a way to capitalize on their market dominance in one area to retain it in another. That's what Microsoft historically did, and Google does the same.
I'd guess it has more to due with a lack of proper heat sinks than vents. There's only so much you can do with such a thin chassis.
Is that you, Louis?
Google's supposed anti competition tactics
So why can't I have access to the Google Play store without Google's search bar? Don't you think that's Google flexing their Android market dominance to keep their search dominance?
And how many people actually run these tools? There's something to be said for having compiler-checked semantics.
You worked there. Did you report it? Did you document it? Did you raise a stink to the public? Or did you just collect your paycheck and move on?
(For example, I'm in the market for a new iPhone stand, and there's a nice $10 aluminum one on Amazon and I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.)
What, this one? If that's the case, you can buy it direct. Most things on Amazon are available elsewhere, like eBay, direct, or Asian market sites like AliExpress.
99.99999999% of the time, the yellow price tags had the same price as the white tags we removed from the shelf. They'd just raised the "regular" price in the computer so that they could put it "on sale" for the same price.
This practice is illegal.
Yeah, I don't think your links show anything more than "someone said it on the internet". Sorry. But feel free to provide creditable citations! I'm always willing to listen.
I'm not going to go through all the claims in the lolcow.wiki. Too long and too detailed, and misses the forest for the trees. Here's my summary of Brianna "Stayed Home" Wu:
Such a list would go a long way highlighting the people with a good idea that can actually be realize, and bring more money to those who are truly deserving.
That's what professional investors are for. I never understood the Kickstarter craze. You want me to plunk down some money, assume all the risk, and my only reward is the product if it's actually made and some token gift? How about giving me a share of the profits instead?
Given that the tax only applied to companies which make $20M+ per year, and was only $275 per employee, I can't see how it would have pushed any businesses out of the city. If you found out that your electric bill was $1 more than you expected, would you move out of your house?
Could those businesses have afforded this special tax? Almost certainly. Do you think the tax would have stopped there? Almost certainly not. Amazon and their counterparts are stopping a precedent before it gets started.
I can "trivially disallow" nesting errors by counting +1 for each { and -1 for each }.
You mean you're going to manually do that every time you look at a piece of code, and ignore the indentation? No, you're not. That's why bugs exist because of misleading indentation.
Of course, you introduce a new class of errors by having space+tab and tab+space look the same but not be considered so by the compiler.
I agree, I do not like Python's implementation. I think they should have disallowed mixing of spaces and tabs. Of course, when it comes to reading code, C (or pick your favorite language) has always had trouble with tabs vs. spaces.
I don't deny that C has faults but they're irrelevant to the matter at hand, which is that making indentation significant is crap.
It's relevant, because C was used to dismiss Python as a language on a single issue in which C has its own problems, including many more. If you act like a hypocrite, as "drinkypoo" did, I'll point it out.
C and its descendants have good reasons for their insanity, like backwards compatibility, and efficiency.
The backwards compatibility is understandable, which basically says the multitude of bug-prone design choices are enshrined into the language forever. The efficiency reasons are overused as an excuse for a language that is pretty terrible with regards to consistency or avoidable bug-prone design decisions.
Python has no good reasons for its insanity
Actually, the bug-prone issues of languages like C where semantics does not match presentation is one of the reasons Python chose the path it did, so it's quite funny that you choose C to bash Python with in this example. C is considered a liberation from the tyranny of rigid indents, but it brought its own problems.
I personally would have preferred if Python kept the braces but disallowed misleading indentation, but I'm not going to dismiss the entirety of the language over that one issue.
Indentation shouldn't need to match semantics. That's what punctuation is for. Indentation is for the benefit of humans.
Err, since the presentation of the code is for humans, to allow bugs due to human-prone errors that can trivially be disallowed is nonsensical. You could keep the punctuation and disallow for the misleading indentation. Obviously Python eschewed that option, but let's not pretend that buggy code should be tolerated if we can avoid it trivially by the compiler.
P.S. Bagging on the GP for choosing C as an example is pathetic.
No, what's pathetic is using C as your comparison, when C is so demonstrably bad.
Python doesn't stop people from writing poor-quality code
No language does, but it does prevent code where indentation does not match semantics. Beyond that, there are many, many C-style errors that are avoided in languages like Python, errors that traditional C apologists shrug aside and make noises about programmers not blaming their tools.
'm only sad that so many people have based their projects on Python, because it means that they have subjected many others to their madness.
*snort* Keep on ignoring the madness of C.
The way Raenex has framed these statements, closes the door to any reasonable discord.
I stated my case plainly and with supporting references, in response to a one-sided diatribe against the right.
Your defense of the intolerant muslim ban is to say that, yes, you are intolerant?
Your defense of mass importation of an intolerant and violent culture is... to say to not do so would be intolerant?? All this concern for LGBT and women's rights flies out the window when it comes to this issue. Strange, isn't it?
You're just making shit up.
All my statements were supported by references. Who's the one attempting reasonable discord? Certainly not you.
I don't see anything on the "left" that is attempting selective immigration by religion or origin
Oh, really?
You provide no argument to oppose the claim or defend LGBT people, but just point out that you are absolutely and certainly ostracizing at least the trans portion of those. Isn't this simply confirming your intolerance?
I made a case that the defense of LGBT issues has gone well past the point of reasonableness. You think it's "intolerance" that biological women don't want to have biological men who "identify" as women hanging around them with their genitals hanging out. Does this seem reasonable to you?
Where was BLM mentioned?
That's what has pushed the whole "police brutality" narrative for the past several years.
Are you rounding them all up under the generic "the left" again?
"The left" has indeed adopted and heavily pushed the phony Black Lies Matter narrative, which itself was founded by leftists who idolized the black nationalist, communist, and fugitive cop-killer Assata Shakur.
The article you use as evidence states that there was bias found in police use of force.
A whopping 18%. Now let's talk about how blacks commit many times more violent crime than whites, which is their real problem. Less crime, less interaction with the police, less black on black crime.
If they're illegals, they can't vote.
You completely ignored the part about the US Census. Why should illegals help determine the outcome of the Congress and the Electoral College?
Furthermore, illegals technically "can't work" either, yet they do so via fraudulent means.
How does that relate to voter disenfranchisement, which you have not commented on?
I commented that minorities, who are supposedly being disenfranchised, actually have majority support for voter id laws. Disenfranchisement happens when people who are not eligible to vote do so, by usurping rights exclusively limited to citizens.
Yes, abortion is a divisive issue, but you're using it to wedge us apart here.
I'm not the one who brought it up. I was responding to somebody using it to tar the right as "intolerant" of "womens rights", while ignoring the human life being terminated. Of course it's a complicated issue, and you can make a reasoned case for either side.
I don't know how we'll ever heal this country
I don't know either. We certainly won't by harassing
If the same thing happens to a piece of C code, a) it still works and b) you can run it through indent to get back something human-understandable. Python has to exist in the real world where things like this happen. The people who defend this characteristic of Python clearly do not live where the rest of us live.
It's amusing that you choose C to bash this particular aspect of Python with. In the real world, C is prone to all sorts of all-too-common human errors, including bugs that results from code not matching the semantics implied by indentation.
C defendants have always put the onus on the programmer, the need for more training or higher quality programmers. But here you are passing final judgment on Python because of what amounts to an annoyance.
this is about the heart of our election process, about how much influence foreign interference had
Huh, you mean like a foreign agent hired by the DNC and the Clinton campaign to conduct a smear campaign against the opposition candidate?
"Steele, who is British, did far more than simply provide opposition research to the Democratic National Committee. He was able to make sure it reached the most influential people possible in politics, media and government to shape and influence the growing narrative of the 2016 presidential election. In other words, as a skilled professional intelligence officer, Steele ran a full-spectrum information operation against the United States. One could even call it information warfare."
But let's not stop there! Did he have help from Obama's DOJ? Why, yes, he did!
"The Nunes memo also showed then-associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr back-channeled additional material from Steele into the DOJ while working with Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and her replacement, Rod Rosenstein. Ohr's wife Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS, the firm that commissioned the dossier, on Steele's project. Ohr's wife would be especially valuable in that she would be able to clandestinely supply info to corroborate what Steele told the FBI and, via her husband, know to tailor what she passed to the questions DOJ had. The FBI did not disclose the role of Ohr's wife, who speaks Russian and has previously done contract work for the CIA, to the FISA court."
None of these issues are going away.
Indeed.
Notice how facts are met with empty rhetoric.
The left aren't the ones making travel bans for muslims.
Islam is the most intolerant, violent, and supremacist religion on Earth. Sane people want to limit immigration, which is not a right, from this violent and supremacist culture. The left wants to import them in massive numbers, and will call you an "Islamophobe" and "xenophobe" if you don't.
They aren't the ones ostracizing LGBT people.
The left wants 99.9% of society to re-engineer itself to recognize the delusions of the 0.1% of transgender people. Some guy "identifies" as a woman, and he wants to hang out with biological women with his male genitalia hanging out.
They aren't the ones advocating for police brutality.
Black Lies Matter was a phony narrative that did not stand up to scrutiny. The end result has been dead cops and more dead blacks due to less policing in crime-ridden neighborhoods.
They aren't the ones trying to disenfranchise minorities from voting.
The left wants to disenfranchise American citizens by flooding the country with illegals and making it harder to reserve rights for American citizens. That's why they put up a big stink when the US Census was going to ask about citizenship status, because they're afraid illegals won't be counted for congressional representation and the electoral college.
By the way, even the majority of minorities support voter id laws.
They aren't the ones pushing against womens rights to control their reproductive systems.
Just ignore the human life that's terminated by these "womens rights".
You think the left is intolerant?
Yes, I think harassing people in public, hounding them out of their jobs, and shutting down their free speech events is massively intolerant.
When over 90% of black people and the majority of other minorities vote for the left it's because they think (correctly) that the right is actively working against them.
No, it's because they are on the Democrat welfare plantation.
Tell you what, go ahead and tell a conservative christian that you are gay and that jesus is a lie and see what happens to you.
For fuck's sake, "piss christ" was an actual thing, and nothing happened. Do you know what would happen if you actually performed this experiment? They would probably politely tell you to stop bothering them.
Now go post a sign that says, "It's okay to be white", and see what happens.
GooTube can't solve the problem because they are part of the problem. The only way to "solve" the problem is to just get out of the way, and let users decide for themselves. Nobody can be trusted with the banhammer.
Ban CNN's account for a week when they post a bullshit story, and this will be resolved pretty quickly
You're under the delusion that GooTube actually cares about truth. They have their own biases and agenda. I'm tired of all these tech platforms deciding that users need to be told who to listen to.
You're rabid. The leftist mainstream media has been pumping out "news" stories with an anti-Trump agenda ever since he won the primaries. Some of it is so obviously slanted and shallow that it's quite laughable, like the Japan fish-feeding episode.
But the biggest sins of the leftist mainstream media is that they ignore stories that don't fit the narrative. That's why a lefty professor from a liberal college had to go on Fox News to share his story about Evergreen.