It was an organization sheltered by the country of Afghanistan. Besides Afghanistan, it's perfectly legitimate to be at war against an organization. Take, for example, militant groups operating within a country trying to stage a coup.
Bruce Schneier has too much rock star status these days. Note the ton of comments asking specifically why it doesn't scale. Bruce didn't analyze the cost per person in his article. There's some interesting angles in the comments, but I wouldn't go around quoting his article as some kind of refutation.
You should have treated terrorism as it always was : a criminal act with a political endgame.
I disagree. Flying jet airliners into high-value buildings of national significance is an act of war. Treating this like a police action would have been a huge mistake.
Now you could have a very good argument that the way the war was conducted was wrong in many ways, but I don't buy this "police action" for one minute.
Swing supports it but the developers didn't hook up any events to the double click. The problem is the developers, not Swing.
The problem is with Swing, because the standard Swing widgets do not do double click right. It's not that double-click isn't supported, it is, it's just that it fails to register quite often. The timing is different.
You run Eclipse via Remote Desktop? Madness. Don't you know how to remote debug ?
I work for a financial company from home. They have strict security rules about what leaves the network, so I essentially have to work remotely on their machine on their site. What's cool is that Eclipse works surprisingly well, quite unlike the Swing apps.
Don't you know that at the root level Swing *is a native widget* with some custom rendering in it.
It's one big fat widget instead of something like native buttons known by the operating system. That's why remote desktop doesn't optimize it like it does for native applications.
it is a shame you are on a slug VPN but that ain't Swing's fault either.
The point is that SWT-based Eclipse runs just fine over this connection, whereas the Swing applications do not. That's the penalty of not using the underlying system.
That's because many developers are (sadly) 9-to-5 muppets rather than craftsmen.
Maybe you mean the developers of Swing, because this is basic functionality that I've seen broken in every Swing app. Double-click should match whatever the native system does. It doesn't, and it never has in over ten fucking years.
It was cool when Red State was available to rent (at $10) before it hit the theaters.
The movies they rent for $10 before they come out in theaters will likely never see a wide release anyways. $10 is a lot just to rent a low-budget movie.
Java2D (=> all of Swing) is fully hardware accelerated (DirextX shaders on Windows and OpenGL shaders everywhere else) since Java 1.6u10 (came out years ago).
And how are those hardware accelerations going to transmit across the VPN to a remote desktop? Native widgets work well in the scenario I was talking about. Swing doesn't.
Java is faster than C++ and C for their purposes
I didn't say anything about Java performance except as to how it applies in using a remote desktop. Sending bits of screen redraws doesn't work.
Incidentally, Swing works perfectly for my apps on RDP, but if there is a fault rendering then the fault is RDPs not Swings.
I don't know why it works for you. Maybe you have a very fast network on a lan compared to the VPN I run through, which adds encryption to the mix, and is over the Internet. All I can tell you is that Swing widgets are not native, SWT is, and so they perform well. RDP can't magically fix Swing if it isn't using native widgets.
I can also tell you that something as simple as double-clicking working in a native fashion has always failed me as well. That's over 10 years of something fundamentally fucked up.
As a user, in every Swing app I've used since it came out it always fucks up basic things like being able to double-click. Fail.
Also, I'm now working via a remote desktop, and Swing apps behave awfully because they don't use native widgets. Meanwhile, over the same connection Eclipse runs beautifully.
I don't care how ugly SWT is behind the scenes, because where it counts, the user experience, it delivers. Swing sucks for users.
Somebody like Woz needed somebody like Jobs to reach the masses, at least before the Internet came around. He wasn't just "design and marketing", though those are areas are extremely important. He was also the guy who had a vision for a consumer product and brought the company to fruition. Woz was never going to do that on his own.
It's not just Jobs, and it's not just Woz. They were a team.
Apprenticeship was the mainstay of education for centuries.
They were still sitting in classrooms being bored before their apprenticeship started, though.
That aside, your point is still a good one. I believe in working while learning. I actually went to a co-op college where half my time was spent working in my field, and thought it was a great experience.
The main advantage is that the language is extendable via macros, which can reduce a lot of boilerplate. It's also very popular in academia for this reason, because it let's you explore new language features by extending the language.
When Chrome updates I normally hear about it on a Slashdot post. It does so without any user interaction at all, and without breaking any updates. It does so when the browser is not being used via the Google Update service so there's never even a blip in the user experience.
What does Chrome do for people that hardly ever shut down their browser? Does it update it anyway at an idle time?
a typical example of how the terrorists WON on 9/11.
The terrorists don't give a shit if Obama violates the Constitution. I'm pretty sure they'd rather not have had their English preacher for jihad assassinated.
I wanted to have sexual relations with the bulk of the Hollywood female stars. I even stated my intentions regarding probably a dozen. Does that make me guilty of something?
I'm willing to bet you didn't publicly state you were going to violently rape them.
If the FBI wants to do some good, it should evaluate which ones are really, really most likely actually move on to something, and then watch those people.
I'd rather they just put them in prison if they're serious about following through instead of indefinitely watching. Look at the Fort Hood shooting. He tried to reach out before making his attacks:
Slashdot Mirror
This is a pretty silly theory. Every time you piss off your customers you encourage them to look elsewhere.
It was an organization sheltered by the country of Afghanistan. Besides Afghanistan, it's perfectly legitimate to be at war against an organization. Take, for example, militant groups operating within a country trying to stage a coup.
Bruce Schneier has too much rock star status these days. Note the ton of comments asking specifically why it doesn't scale. Bruce didn't analyze the cost per person in his article. There's some interesting angles in the comments, but I wouldn't go around quoting his article as some kind of refutation.
You should have treated terrorism as it always was : a criminal act with a political endgame.
I disagree. Flying jet airliners into high-value buildings of national significance is an act of war. Treating this like a police action would have been a huge mistake.
Now you could have a very good argument that the way the war was conducted was wrong in many ways, but I don't buy this "police action" for one minute.
Swing supports it but the developers didn't hook up any events to the double click. The problem is the developers, not Swing.
The problem is with Swing, because the standard Swing widgets do not do double click right. It's not that double-click isn't supported, it is, it's just that it fails to register quite often. The timing is different.
You run Eclipse via Remote Desktop? Madness. Don't you know how to remote debug ?
I work for a financial company from home. They have strict security rules about what leaves the network, so I essentially have to work remotely on their machine on their site. What's cool is that Eclipse works surprisingly well, quite unlike the Swing apps.
Don't you know that at the root level Swing *is a native widget* with some custom rendering in it.
It's one big fat widget instead of something like native buttons known by the operating system. That's why remote desktop doesn't optimize it like it does for native applications.
it is a shame you are on a slug VPN but that ain't Swing's fault either.
The point is that SWT-based Eclipse runs just fine over this connection, whereas the Swing applications do not. That's the penalty of not using the underlying system.
That's because many developers are (sadly) 9-to-5 muppets rather than craftsmen.
Maybe you mean the developers of Swing, because this is basic functionality that I've seen broken in every Swing app. Double-click should match whatever the native system does. It doesn't, and it never has in over ten fucking years.
I agree completely that this looks a lot like frauds of bygone times,
Such frauds are not "bygone". There's plenty of them around today.
It was cool when Red State was available to rent (at $10) before it hit the theaters.
The movies they rent for $10 before they come out in theaters will likely never see a wide release anyways. $10 is a lot just to rent a low-budget movie.
Java2D (=> all of Swing) is fully hardware accelerated (DirextX shaders on Windows and OpenGL shaders everywhere else) since Java 1.6u10 (came out years ago).
And how are those hardware accelerations going to transmit across the VPN to a remote desktop? Native widgets work well in the scenario I was talking about. Swing doesn't.
Java is faster than C++ and C for their purposes
I didn't say anything about Java performance except as to how it applies in using a remote desktop. Sending bits of screen redraws doesn't work.
Incidentally, Swing works perfectly for my apps on RDP, but if there is a fault rendering then the fault is RDPs not Swings.
I don't know why it works for you. Maybe you have a very fast network on a lan compared to the VPN I run through, which adds encryption to the mix, and is over the Internet. All I can tell you is that Swing widgets are not native, SWT is, and so they perform well. RDP can't magically fix Swing if it isn't using native widgets.
I can also tell you that something as simple as double-clicking working in a native fashion has always failed me as well. That's over 10 years of something fundamentally fucked up.
you forget to consider that SWT pretty much only works decently on Windows.
I'm actually running Eclipse on Linux. It's quite nice that I can actually do this on a VPN with good response times. Swing apps perform badly.
Don't be left behind.
Thanks for the laugh. You sound like a Christian evangelist.
As a user, in every Swing app I've used since it came out it always fucks up basic things like being able to double-click. Fail.
Also, I'm now working via a remote desktop, and Swing apps behave awfully because they don't use native widgets. Meanwhile, over the same connection Eclipse runs beautifully.
I don't care how ugly SWT is behind the scenes, because where it counts, the user experience, it delivers. Swing sucks for users.
Somebody like Woz needed somebody like Jobs to reach the masses, at least before the Internet came around. He wasn't just "design and marketing", though those are areas are extremely important. He was also the guy who had a vision for a consumer product and brought the company to fruition. Woz was never going to do that on his own.
It's not just Jobs, and it's not just Woz. They were a team.
Wait for Halloween, at least. It's just around the corner.
Apprenticeship was the mainstay of education for centuries.
They were still sitting in classrooms being bored before their apprenticeship started, though.
That aside, your point is still a good one. I believe in working while learning. I actually went to a co-op college where half my time was spent working in my field, and thought it was a great experience.
The key is showing that it was any different in the past, because sitting in a boring classroom has been the mainstay of education for centuries.
but LISP? who still runs this and why?
http://www.google.com/search?q=why+lisp
The main advantage is that the language is extendable via macros, which can reduce a lot of boilerplate. It's also very popular in academia for this reason, because it let's you explore new language features by extending the language.
When Chrome updates I normally hear about it on a Slashdot post. It does so without any user interaction at all, and without breaking any updates. It does so when the browser is not being used via the Google Update service so there's never even a blip in the user experience.
What does Chrome do for people that hardly ever shut down their browser? Does it update it anyway at an idle time?
Bad grammar aside, you still are delusional. Things were just as bad when Taco was around.
a typical example of how the terrorists WON on 9/11.
The terrorists don't give a shit if Obama violates the Constitution. I'm pretty sure they'd rather not have had their English preacher for jihad assassinated.
And you realize a president can do none of those things.
He is in control of the military. Presidents also have a lot of control on executive policy and appointments.
Meanwhile some clueless user just switched back to IE.
This line at the end takes it from funny to trying to make a point while being funny.
Anyone knows what the heck those patents are ?
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2278670&cid=36607816
I wanted to have sexual relations with the bulk of the Hollywood female stars. I even stated my intentions regarding probably a dozen. Does that make me guilty of something?
I'm willing to bet you didn't publicly state you were going to violently rape them.
If the FBI wants to do some good, it should evaluate which ones are really, really most likely actually move on to something, and then watch those people.
I'd rather they just put them in prison if they're serious about following through instead of indefinitely watching. Look at the Fort Hood shooting. He tried to reach out before making his attacks:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873
It's the same thing as somebody reaching out for a hitman. I'd rather the FBI put them in prison based on a fake one before they found a real one.
I responded to one phrase, "but they don't put him on a pedestal." Are you claiming that winning the Nobel Peace Prize doesn't count?
but they don't put him on a pedestal
He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. If that's not putting somebody on a pedestal I don't know what is.