That would be YOU. You are the one who gave consideration to a new car after acknowledging the problem with your old-as-shit car, and then tried to reframe the argument as "change for change's sake". You are the one who changes to terms with different connotations late in the argument (check a dictionary for what connotation means, since you seem unfamiliar with the concept). You are the one trying to move the goalposts.
Average age of cars on the road is 11 years. AVERAGE. 14 is no big deal.
So your car is 3 years over the average, and as cars get older they get more problems. Just because in a bad economy and rising consumer debt that people make do with what they have doesn't mean they couldn't use a new car. I've known lots of people who drive around in junky cars for financial reasons.
You stated the reason you haven't bought a new one is because you can't find one you like, which means you considered it, not the "change for change's sake" that you'd dismissively tried to phrase it as later on.
Really - no new cars have what I'm looking for is a stereotypical old-man reason?
Sure sounds like it, especially when you originally said "there hasn't really been another vehicle that has appealed to me since." Now you talk about "requirements".
That's an expression of a negative opinion of something I find ugly. There's nothing wrong with it in a casual context as I backed it up, and it definitely isn't "FUD", as in misleading propaganda.
the information it was "barf"ing about was totally wrong
For it to be FUD it would have to be an intent on my part to spread wrong information. I was clear in my post that I was asking a question, and furthermore, I was basing my information on what the "+5 Informative" guy said about it, as I quoted. This is the basis for a back and forth where you can describe the technical merits and correct wrong information, as you've done in your last two posts, instead of attacking in an ad hominem fashion and assuming "FUD" on my part.
With a little practice, you can read an incredible amount of information from the coloring without even moving your mouse or cursor.
I appreciate the writeup, and it would make a good reference article for the website if it isn't already there. Since I'm not the only person who has had this initial negative response, it would make sense that you could point them to URL that made a good case for it.
The rainbow colors are useful because you can roughly tell the data flow in a method without even reading a single character, just by looking at the colors. Which, in my experience, with a bit of patience, is way faster than clicking every variable ot mark its occurences or reading the code.
This is at least an informative argument instead of your past several comments.
There is no arguing about it being unique -- it is. There is no other application with that feature.
My argument was that a similar purpose could be accomplished with mark occurrences. You have at least addressed that argument now.
which is just FUD. It's neither correct, nor is there any valuable opinion or reasoning contained in the statement.
I was basing my statement off the "+5 Informative" comment from Noughmad and a quick look at screenshots to verify: "every variable and function has its own color", so your classification as FUD is an ad hominem character attack on your part. As for the reasoning, that was in the very next sentence, which you ignored: "A touch of color is useful for select elements. Anything more starts to look like a rainbow and adds more noise then signal."
It is obvious that you're not even remotely interested in the appliction, but still you're posting negative comments about it. What's the point?
I'm interested in IDEs and features, which is why I checked out this article in the first place. Even Eclipse will give you a color scheme that's way too busy by default, so my comment was really about the touted feature and the overuse of colors in IDEs. Counter-arguments, such as code flow that you mentioned, are much better than somebody over-reacting because I criticized their baby.
No, my point is I only like a limited set of colors, and they have to pull their weight, which other people may agree with.
How is that a reason to grump about KDevelop's syntax highlighting?
Because it was claimed that the KDevelop syntax coloring feature was both superior and unique. The mark occurrences feature in Eclipse accomplishes a similar purpose without adding to the rainbow effect.
I just don't get what you wanted to achieve with your comment.
Maybe if you weren't playing KDevelop defender and tried to see things from my point of view it wouldn't be so hard.
You complained that a feature which you didn't try
Yet I saw what it looked like, and had experience with other busy color schemes in the past, and used an alternative option instead.
Oh get off it, a 14 year old car is going to have a multitude of problems compared to a new car. You're the one that brought up both the age of the car and the stereotypical old-man reason why you won't get a new one.
I'm suggesting if you can't find something new of interest and are willing to put up with a broken down 14-year old car because of it, you are the stereotypical old man resistant to change.
The highlighting is very well thought out, and there is no point in arguing about it if you haven't tried it for at least a week.
I've already trimmed down my color usage to a very small number because I did not like the rainbow effect based on months of experience with standard colorization in IDEs, and I already have mark occurrences in Eclipse, so no, I do not need to try it for a week.
True enough, but you did say it wasn't about the money, and it sounds pretty inconvenient nursing a car that old around. Come on, don't be that old man living in the past.
I searched for screenshots before commenting, so you're wrong. And obviously instead of saying how I was wrong in my assessment, you just bashed my opinion as unfounded. Typical Anonymous Coward remark.
For me, this is the killer feature that only KDevelop has, and I find it very very hard to read code without it.
I should add that Eclipse has a way of highlighting uses of a particular variable that doesn't result in the rainbow overload. Just click on the variable name and it will automatically mark all occurrences for you.
In Montreal, a woman was recently arrested for taking a photo of graffiti, the claim being that it's publication on Instagram was tantamount to harrassment (note that she was not the vandal, she only took a photo... mind you that's in Quebec, we already know they're a pretty odd bunch)
Let's say I was a known anti-abortion Christian protestor and posted a photo of graffiti that depicted an abortion doctor with a bullet in his head, with his name written beside it. Or let's escalate it, let's say I was a Tea Party member and did the same thing for Obama instead. Or let's make it more personal, and let's say I had a grudge against you and did the same thing to you.
That doesn't sound as innocent as just taking a photo of some graffiti, now does it?
Details that you left out, quoted from your link:
"The image [..] shows the police commander with a bullet hole in his forehead. His name is also written beside the image. [..] Lafreniere [the police commander] is the head of the service's communications division and frequently appeared in the media during the student protests. [..] A supporter of the student movement, Pawluck [the photographer] has been taken into custody before as part of mass arrests during demonstrations."
Sad, and not a very nice thing to say about the intelligence of the median moviegoer, but it's the truth
I don't think it's so sad or unintelligent. Celebrities are celebrities for a reason. They have a certain charisma. Watching a movie with an actor without this quality can easily ruin the movie. It's like eating out at a restaurant. Sometimes you go with something new, but often you go with known favorites.
A movie without a director is like an orchestra without a conductor: no matter how talented each player may be, all they'll collectively produce is noise without coherent direction.
I'd like to see this experiment, because my gut feeling is that conductors are vastly overrated.
I'm astonished that the studio executives own intestines didn't spring forth and strangle the man for such blatant hypocrisy.
I don't see it as hypocrisy. Did the studios ever claim to be looking out for the consumer? Their concern is the "industry", always has been, and that's what their concern is here. You can debate if their tactics are hurting the industry more than helping, but I don't doubt their motivations.
Yes, you can. Much of the material is from recorded classroom lectures. And if you need help, there's plenty available online from people who like to help teach others. The only thing a college provides these days is a certificate and flesh-space networking.
We had all that in the 1980s with BBS's (and some may say, better, but that's another argument).
It's a stupid argument.
Yet, while dialing up to the local "information utility," reading e-mail from strangers half a world away, and accessing the expansive repository of some digitized library--all the time struck with awe and wonder at the fantastic "future" I found myself in, and dreaming of the things to come--I never EVER imagined it like the way it is now.
True enough, and that's why I didn't pick the 80s, but 20 years ago. I meant to link to Eternal September but forgot. By this time it was obvious the Internet was the next big thing, enough that when Gates came out with his book two years later he was already late to the party and stating the obvious after earlier downplaying the importance. For an "embrace, extend, extinguish" company, they were very late.
Wake the FUCK UP, man, and look around!
Err, you're talking to me? That's been my point. The "more of the same" comment applies to Schmidt. He's describing the present and short past, just applied to more people. I've also replied to at least one person in this thread who described the Internet as "not so spectacular".
I sincerely can't wait to see what else is coming.
Nanotechnology and biology is where the next wave will come from.
The funniest thing about the story I think is that people honestly thought that "senior living map" could have been a real startup, instead of just a summer intern project.
Can't say I blame them when Instagram sold for a cool billion.
MySQL (or MariaDB, or SkySQL) are not suitable for use in banking, but the vast majority of database applications don't have the same requirements of banks. [..] MySQL is demonstrably scaleable and is secure and robust enough for the vast majority of applications. It is used extensively in health care - which has fairly high privacy and data retention requirements.
From what I've seen of healthcare software, it's nowhere near the level of quality you'd expect for such a field. Kind of bizarre that you or anybody else would accept less integrity for healthcare data than a bank.
Meanwhile, their work allows you to become successful, FOR FREE...
Depends on the licensing model. MySQL was notorious for their split-license model to try and extract money from businesses. And really, Monty comes off as a dickhead, so why would I want to license my code or otherwise support him so he could just sell it to some other dickhead again?
In the meantime, there's PostgreSQL, completely free, no strings attached.
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just keep stretching it
That would be YOU. You are the one who gave consideration to a new car after acknowledging the problem with your old-as-shit car, and then tried to reframe the argument as "change for change's sake". You are the one who changes to terms with different connotations late in the argument (check a dictionary for what connotation means, since you seem unfamiliar with the concept). You are the one trying to move the goalposts.
Average age of cars on the road is 11 years. AVERAGE. 14 is no big deal.
So your car is 3 years over the average, and as cars get older they get more problems. Just because in a bad economy and rising consumer debt that people make do with what they have doesn't mean they couldn't use a new car. I've known lots of people who drive around in junky cars for financial reasons.
You stated the reason you haven't bought a new one is because you can't find one you like, which means you considered it, not the "change for change's sake" that you'd dismissively tried to phrase it as later on.
Really - no new cars have what I'm looking for is a stereotypical old-man reason?
Sure sounds like it, especially when you originally said "there hasn't really been another vehicle that has appealed to me since." Now you talk about "requirements".
it contained "barf"
That's an expression of a negative opinion of something I find ugly. There's nothing wrong with it in a casual context as I backed it up, and it definitely isn't "FUD", as in misleading propaganda.
the information it was "barf"ing about was totally wrong
For it to be FUD it would have to be an intent on my part to spread wrong information. I was clear in my post that I was asking a question, and furthermore, I was basing my information on what the "+5 Informative" guy said about it, as I quoted. This is the basis for a back and forth where you can describe the technical merits and correct wrong information, as you've done in your last two posts, instead of attacking in an ad hominem fashion and assuming "FUD" on my part.
With a little practice, you can read an incredible amount of information from the coloring without even moving your mouse or cursor.
I appreciate the writeup, and it would make a good reference article for the website if it isn't already there. Since I'm not the only person who has had this initial negative response, it would make sense that you could point them to URL that made a good case for it.
The rainbow colors are useful because you can roughly tell the data flow in a method without even reading a single character, just by looking at the colors. Which, in my experience, with a bit of patience, is way faster than clicking every variable ot mark its occurences or reading the code.
This is at least an informative argument instead of your past several comments.
There is no arguing about it being unique -- it is. There is no other application with that feature.
My argument was that a similar purpose could be accomplished with mark occurrences. You have at least addressed that argument now.
which is just FUD. It's neither correct, nor is there any valuable opinion or reasoning contained in the statement.
I was basing my statement off the "+5 Informative" comment from Noughmad and a quick look at screenshots to verify: "every variable and function has its own color", so your classification as FUD is an ad hominem character attack on your part. As for the reasoning, that was in the very next sentence, which you ignored: "A touch of color is useful for select elements. Anything more starts to look like a rainbow and adds more noise then signal."
It is obvious that you're not even remotely interested in the appliction, but still you're posting negative comments about it. What's the point?
I'm interested in IDEs and features, which is why I checked out this article in the first place. Even Eclipse will give you a color scheme that's way too busy by default, so my comment was really about the touted feature and the overuse of colors in IDEs. Counter-arguments, such as code flow that you mentioned, are much better than somebody over-reacting because I criticized their baby.
So, your point is actually "I don't like colors".
No, my point is I only like a limited set of colors, and they have to pull their weight, which other people may agree with.
How is that a reason to grump about KDevelop's syntax highlighting?
Because it was claimed that the KDevelop syntax coloring feature was both superior and unique. The mark occurrences feature in Eclipse accomplishes a similar purpose without adding to the rainbow effect.
I just don't get what you wanted to achieve with your comment.
Maybe if you weren't playing KDevelop defender and tried to see things from my point of view it wouldn't be so hard.
You complained that a feature which you didn't try
Yet I saw what it looked like, and had experience with other busy color schemes in the past, and used an alternative option instead.
Oh get off it, a 14 year old car is going to have a multitude of problems compared to a new car. You're the one that brought up both the age of the car and the stereotypical old-man reason why you won't get a new one.
I'm suggesting if you can't find something new of interest and are willing to put up with a broken down 14-year old car because of it, you are the stereotypical old man resistant to change.
Ah sorry, you weren't the original poster.
We only do that for scope-local variables.
That's bad enough.
The highlighting is very well thought out, and there is no point in arguing about it if you haven't tried it for at least a week.
I've already trimmed down my color usage to a very small number because I did not like the rainbow effect based on months of experience with standard colorization in IDEs, and I already have mark occurrences in Eclipse, so no, I do not need to try it for a week.
True enough, but you did say it wasn't about the money, and it sounds pretty inconvenient nursing a car that old around. Come on, don't be that old man living in the past.
I searched for screenshots before commenting, so you're wrong. And obviously instead of saying how I was wrong in my assessment, you just bashed my opinion as unfounded. Typical Anonymous Coward remark.
I drive a 14 year old car. I am far from poor, I drive it because there hasn't really been another vehicle that has appealed to me since.
In other words, you've gotten old and stuck in a rut.
You still need the machine tools to make things like barrels that cannot (and never will) be made on a 3d printer.
Never is a long time.
For me, this is the killer feature that only KDevelop has, and I find it very very hard to read code without it.
I should add that Eclipse has a way of highlighting uses of a particular variable that doesn't result in the rainbow overload. Just click on the variable name and it will automatically mark all occurrences for you.
Not just syntax, but every variable and function has its own color.
Wait, so it's not even colored by identifier type, but they just assign each identifier a unique color? Barf.
A touch of color is useful for select elements. Anything more starts to look like a rainbow and adds more noise then signal.
Good, have at it then, space garbagemen. In the meantime, give the US some credit for stuff like Hubble.
In Montreal, a woman was recently arrested for taking a photo of graffiti, the claim being that it's publication on Instagram was tantamount to harrassment (note that she was not the vandal, she only took a photo ... mind you that's in Quebec, we already know they're a pretty odd bunch)
Let's say I was a known anti-abortion Christian protestor and posted a photo of graffiti that depicted an abortion doctor with a bullet in his head, with his name written beside it. Or let's escalate it, let's say I was a Tea Party member and did the same thing for Obama instead. Or let's make it more personal, and let's say I had a grudge against you and did the same thing to you.
That doesn't sound as innocent as just taking a photo of some graffiti, now does it?
Details that you left out, quoted from your link:
"The image [..] shows the police commander with a bullet hole in his forehead. His name is also written beside the image. [..] Lafreniere [the police commander] is the head of the service's communications division and frequently appeared in the media during the student protests. [..] A supporter of the student movement, Pawluck [the photographer] has been taken into custody before as part of mass arrests during demonstrations."
Sad, and not a very nice thing to say about the intelligence of the median moviegoer, but it's the truth
I don't think it's so sad or unintelligent. Celebrities are celebrities for a reason. They have a certain charisma. Watching a movie with an actor without this quality can easily ruin the movie. It's like eating out at a restaurant. Sometimes you go with something new, but often you go with known favorites.
A movie without a director is like an orchestra without a conductor: no matter how talented each player may be, all they'll collectively produce is noise without coherent direction.
I'd like to see this experiment, because my gut feeling is that conductors are vastly overrated.
I'm astonished that the studio executives own intestines didn't spring forth and strangle the man for such blatant hypocrisy.
I don't see it as hypocrisy. Did the studios ever claim to be looking out for the consumer? Their concern is the "industry", always has been, and that's what their concern is here. You can debate if their tactics are hurting the industry more than helping, but I don't doubt their motivations.
No you can't.
Yes, you can. Much of the material is from recorded classroom lectures. And if you need help, there's plenty available online from people who like to help teach others. The only thing a college provides these days is a certificate and flesh-space networking.
We had all that in the 1980s with BBS's (and some may say, better, but that's another argument).
It's a stupid argument.
Yet, while dialing up to the local "information utility," reading e-mail from strangers half a world away, and accessing the expansive repository of some digitized library--all the time struck with awe and wonder at the fantastic "future" I found myself in, and dreaming of the things to come--I never EVER imagined it like the way it is now.
True enough, and that's why I didn't pick the 80s, but 20 years ago. I meant to link to Eternal September but forgot. By this time it was obvious the Internet was the next big thing, enough that when Gates came out with his book two years later he was already late to the party and stating the obvious after earlier downplaying the importance. For an "embrace, extend, extinguish" company, they were very late.
Wake the FUCK UP, man, and look around!
Err, you're talking to me? That's been my point. The "more of the same" comment applies to Schmidt. He's describing the present and short past, just applied to more people. I've also replied to at least one person in this thread who described the Internet as "not so spectacular".
I sincerely can't wait to see what else is coming.
Nanotechnology and biology is where the next wave will come from.
The funniest thing about the story I think is that people honestly thought that "senior living map" could have been a real startup, instead of just a summer intern project.
Can't say I blame them when Instagram sold for a cool billion.
MySQL (or MariaDB, or SkySQL) are not suitable for use in banking, but the vast majority of database applications don't have the same requirements of banks. [..] MySQL is demonstrably scaleable and is secure and robust enough for the vast majority of applications. It is used extensively in health care - which has fairly high privacy and data retention requirements.
From what I've seen of healthcare software, it's nowhere near the level of quality you'd expect for such a field. Kind of bizarre that you or anybody else would accept less integrity for healthcare data than a bank.
Meanwhile, their work allows you to become successful, FOR FREE...
Depends on the licensing model. MySQL was notorious for their split-license model to try and extract money from businesses. And really, Monty comes off as a dickhead, so why would I want to license my code or otherwise support him so he could just sell it to some other dickhead again?
In the meantime, there's PostgreSQL, completely free, no strings attached.